In reply to Stephen Reid - Needle Sports:
The perfect alpine 8.3mm is a weird one, you can almost feel the weirdness, its very very supple, very spongy when pinched between fingers, and oh my lord, the rope stretch is huge!
With that said, i got the 60m for £52 so had to get it. Paired it with a mammut meteor 8.3mm which I like much more, feels tougher and more stiff.