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basscadet 05 Jun 2016
Just back from a couple of days camping and scrambling round about Corrie Mhadaidh - should of been brilliant, but was marred by the plight of a couple of poor sheep. We arrived on Friday, and saw they were stranded so my partner went up to see if he could help - looked like they were in a benign position from the coire, but he came back thwarted, as they were actually on the other side of waterpipe gully, on the bottom of a slabby buttress, with 40 foot drops all about..
So a fine days scrambling yesterday, and still their cries echoed around the coire, so this morning we hatched another rescue plan, this time going up the rocky scree terrace that takes you two thirds of the way up the slope to above where they were and managed down some vegetated slabs to a ledge which led into Waterpipe gully. There was a bit of a jump down and I couldnie manage as I'm still recovering from a broken ankle, but Dougie managed down the slabby buttress, to find that the mother had fallen to her doom, the lamb is on a ledge under an overhang, and there was no way to get down to it.
Its so horrible thinking of the poor thing being all scared and alone up there with no food or water, and I would think death is fairly iminent for the poor wee thing so thought I would post up here to see if anyone is heading to skye who has a spare couple of hours, a rope, and a big heart who is in need of an unusual challenge and some good karma. If we had a rope, we could of lassoued it or maybe abseiled down, but just being a couple of scramblers we had no hope, feel awful that we just werent good enough.
 Rich K 05 Jun 2016
In reply to basscadet:

Have you tried letting the RSPCA/SSPCA know? I've heard of the RSPCA rescuing sheep from cliffs in Wales.
 Jamie B 05 Jun 2016
In reply to basscadet:
I'd advise caution for any well-meaning rescue attempts. This is inherently nasty ground, and you have to ask yourself if the life of a lamb is worth risking your own. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I'd hate to see good intentions lead to a real tragedy.
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 DerwentDiluted 05 Jun 2016
In reply to basscadet:

Might be worth contacting the local MR team. Sheep rescues are good training opportunities and are good PR with the local farmers.
basscadet 06 Jun 2016
I contacted both Skye MRT and the RSPCA via their facebook pages..

Jamie I don't think it would be too dangerous, up to the terrace would be a slabby grade 2/3 and the wee traverse of waterpipe gully maybe a mod or diff. Like I said, if we had a rope to Lassou the wee thing, we would of been able to get it, and we aren't exactly climbers! Definitely no more dangerous or difficult than a lot of things done every day on the Cuillin.

 Trangia 06 Jun 2016
In reply to basscadet:
I found myself in an identical situation when scrambling up Jacks Rake last year. We came across the body of a sheep, which was starting to stink, on the rake which had obviously fallen. From about 100 ft above us we could hear another sheep crying plaintively. We scrambled up a bit further so that we could see it. It was totally trapped on a ledge with no way out up, down or sideways. Goodness knows how it got there. It kept trying to enter a bottomless gulley, then losing it's nerve and backing off. We surmised that the dead sheep had gone that way.

We had no rope with us and it was obvious that reaching the ledge would be difficult without abseiling down to it from above. So we finished the rake, then carried on down to the NDG where we told the barman. He said he knew the farmer and would notify him.

I should imagine carrying out such a rescue would be well nigh impossible because the sheep would panic and fall off before you could grab it
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basscadet 06 Jun 2016
Just got Facebook message - Lamb saved by a kindly chap today - restores your faith in the wheels of natural justice - so glad

 Michael Hood 06 Jun 2016
In reply to basscadet: Lamb saved by a kindly chap today - hmm, saved for what?

In reply to Michael Hood:

Saved from a lingering death, at least?
 d_b 06 Jun 2016
In reply to Michael Hood:

For later.
 spenser 06 Jun 2016
In reply to Trangia:

Was that the incident involving Dave Birkett's rescue of a sheep on Pavey? If not it's evidently a more common thing than I'd realised!
 Colin Moody 06 Jun 2016
In reply to spenser:

Very common.

I’ve rescued three ovine beasts in the last three years, they all died.
The lamb this year fell down a cliff and landed among small trees above another cliff. I abseiled, managed to grab it eventually and then abseiled one handed with the lamb under my arm. Ewe wasn’t interested so they bottle fed it (and called it Colin), it died a few weeks later!
 Trangia 07 Jun 2016
In reply to spenser:

> Was that the incident involving Dave Birkett's rescue of a sheep on Pavey? If not it's evidently a more common thing than I'd realised!

No, that was in 2013. Our incident was last year 2015.

As I said it must be very difficult to get near a stranded sheep and panicking it. Hats off to anyone who can do it.
 Offwidth 07 Jun 2016
In reply to Trangia:

Just to cheer everyone up. I once rescued a lamb from Corvus: mum had jumped a big gap and baby wouldnt follow. We could hear increased bleating all the way up the first pitch. When I finally got to the isolated grassy ledge I grabbed it and threw it across to mum ....and mum, to show she cared, proceeded to head butt junior really hard, much to the amusement of my party. I've also rescued numerous sheep from ledges (they dont weigh much when they are starving so are easy to lift or lower in a diy sling harness) and one from a chasm at the back of Great Wolfrey.
 drunken monkey 07 Jun 2016
In reply to Offwidth:

I remember witnessing a sheep go pretty much the whole length of the bottom half of Idwal slabs once - I was on a climbing course at the time (Climbing tennis shoe)

Pretty sobering!
 FactorXXX 07 Jun 2016
In reply to drunken monkey:

I remember witnessing a sheep go pretty much the whole length of the bottom half of Idwal slabs once - I was on a climbing course at the time (Climbing tennis shoe)

Sounds like it was a wooly jumper...
J1234 07 Jun 2016
In reply to drunken monkey:

> I remember witnessing a sheep go pretty much the whole length of the bottom half of Idwal slabs once - I was on a climbing course at the time (Climbing tennis shoe)

> Pretty sobering!

THE BALLAD OF IDWAL SLABS
by
Showell Styles

I'll tell you the tale of a climber;
A drama of love on the crags;
A story to pluck at your heartstrings.
And tear your emotions to rags.
He was tall, he was fair, he was handsome;
John Christopher Brown was his name;
The Very Severes nearly him bored him to tears...
and he felt about girls much the same.

Till one day, while climbing at Ogwen,
He fell (just a figure of speech)
For the president's beautiful daughter,
Named Mary Jane Smith... What a peach!
Her figure was slim as Napes Needle;
Her lips were as red as Red Wall;
A regular tiger, she'd been up the Eiger...
North Wall, with no pitons at all!

Now Mary had several suitors,
But never a one would she take,
Though it seemed that she favoured one fellow,
A villain named Reginald Hake;
This Hake was a cad who used pitons,
And wore a long silken moustarsh,
Which he used, so they say, as an extra belay...
But perhaps we're being too harsh.

John took Mary climbing on Lliwedd,
And proposed while on Mallory's Slab;
It took him three pitches to do it,
For he hadn't much gift of the gab.
He said: "Just belay for a moment...
There's a little spike by your knee,
And tell me, fair maid, when you're properly belayed,
Would you care to hitch up with me?"

Said Mary, "It's only a toss-up
Between you and Reginald Hake,
And the man I am going to marry
Must perform some great deed for my sake.
I will marry whichever bold climber
Shall excel at the following feat
Climb headfirst down Hope, with no rubbers or rope,
At our very next climbing club meet!"

Now when Mary told the committee,
She had little occasion to plead,
For she was fair as a jug-handle hold
At the top of a hundred foot lead.
The club ratified her proposal,
And the President had to agree;
He was fond of his daughter, but felt that she oughter
Get married, between you and me.

There was quite a big crowd for the contest,
Lined up at the foot of the slabs;
The Mobs came from Bangor in Buses,
And the Nobs came from Capel in Cabs.
There were Fell and rock, climbers', and rucksack,
And the pinnacle club (in new hats)
And a sight to remember!... an Alpine club member,
in very large crampons and spats.

The weather was fine for a wonder;
The rocks were as dry as a bone.
Hake arrived with a crowd of his backers,
But John brown strode up quite alone;
A rousing cheer greeted the rivals;
A coin was produced, and they tossed.
"Have I won?" cried John Brown as the penny came down.
"No you fool!" hissed his rival, "You've lost!"

So Hake had first go at the contest;
He went up by the Ordinary Route.
And only the closest observer
Would have noticed a bulge in each boot.
Head first he came down the top pitches,
Applying his moustache as a brake;
He didn't relax till he'd passed the twin cracks,
And the crowd shouted "Attaboy Hake!"

At the foot of the Slabs Hake stood sneering,
And draining a bottle of Scotch;
"Your time was ten seconds," the President said,
Consulting the Treasurer's watch.
Now Brown. if you'd win, you have to beat that."
Our Hero's Sang Froid was sublime;
He took one look at Mary, and light as a fairy,
Ran up to the top of the climb.

Now though Hake had made such good going,
John wasn't discouraged a bit,
For he was the speedier climber
Even Hake would have had to admit.
So smiling as if for a snapshot,
Not a hair of his head out of place,
Our Hero John Brown started wriggling down...
But Look! What a change on his face!

Prepare for a shock, gentle ladies;
Gentlemen, check the blasphemous word;
For the villainy I am to speak of
Is such as you never have heard!
Reg. Hake had cut holes in the toes of his boots,
And filled up each boot with soft soap!
As he slid down the climb, he had covered
With slime every handhold and foothold on Hope!

Conceive (if you can) the terror
That gripped the vast concourse below,
When they saw Mary's lover slip downwards,
Like an arrow that's shot from a bow!"
He's done for!" gasped twenty score voices.
"Stand from under!" Roared John from above.
As he shot down the slope, he was steering down Hope...
Still fighting for life and for love!

Like lightning he flew past the traverse...
In a flash he had reached the Twin Cracks
The friction was something terrific...
There was smoke coming out of his slacks
He bounced off the shelf at the top of pitch two,
And bounded clean over it's edge!
A shout of "He's gone!" came from all... except one;
And that one of course, was our Reg.

But it's not the expected that happens,
I n this sort of story at least;
And just as John thought he was finished,
He found that his motion had ceased!
His braces (Pre.War and elastic)
Had caught on a small rocky knob,
And so... safe and sound, he came gently to ground,
'Mid the deafening cheers of the Mob!

"Your time was five seconds!" the President cried.
"She's yours, my boy... take her, You win!"
"My hero!" breathed Mary, and kissed him;
While Hake gulped a bottle of Gin,
And tugged at his moustache and whispered,
"Aha! My advances you spurn!
"Curse a chap that wins races by using his braces!"
And he slunk away ne'er to return.

They were wed at the Church of St. Gabbro;
And the Vicar, quite carried away,
Did a hand-traverse into his pulpit,
And shouted out "Let us belay"
John put the ring on Mary's finger
A snap-link it was, made of steel,
And they walked to the taxis
'Neath an arch of ice axes,
While all the bells started to peal.

The morals we draw from this story,
Are several, I'm happy to say:
It's virtue that wins in the long run;
Long silken moustaches don't pay;
Keep the head uppermost when you're climbing;
If you must slither, be on a rope;
Steer clear of the places that sell you cheap braces...
And the fellow that uses soft soap!
 duchessofmalfi 07 Jun 2016
I recall someone saying (maybe Dave Birkett) that the secret to catching a lamb or sheep on a ledge without too much trouble was to let it get hungry and ab down with some food and catch it while it was eating...
 DerwentDiluted 07 Jun 2016
In reply to duchessofmalfi:

> I recall someone saying (maybe Dave Birkett) that the secret to catching a lamb or sheep on a ledge without too much trouble was to let it get hungry and ab down with some food and catch it while it was eating...

Leaving them for a few days has the twin advantages of subdued at one end, empty at the other.

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