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Looks like we may have a new PM rather sooner than expected - reports that Leadsom is going to throw in the towel at 12:15

In reply to Chris the Tall:

and Angela Eagle now making her bid for LL at 12.00

In reply to andyjohnson0:

On the Beeb's website so must be true..

In reply to Removed User:

Apparently it means that Gove may be back in the race !

In reply to Chris the Tall:

She's gone...

In reply to Chris the Tall:

So that takes two months out of the delays for invoking article 50 and we now have a Tory party uniting around a credible leader while Labour is in disarray.

In reply to Chris the Tall:

Snap election anyone?

In reply to Chris the Tall:

Lock up your dalmatians Teresa is on her way...

In reply to Chris the Tall:


Goodness, he's like a lingering eggy one which keeps coming back every time you shuffle in your chair. Eventually, hopefully, he will dissipate never to be seen (or smelled) ever again.

In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
he's issued a statement in support of May and confirmed he won't re-open the race.

In reply to Chris the Tall:

well i thought the whole Motherhood-gate thing was a bit of a storm in a tea cup but I've just listened to the audio released by the Times and she managed to come across as naive, devious, stupid and clueless.

In reply to Rampikino:


Only if Corbyn's still Labour leader, we can kill two birds with one stone then and have a proper Labour government.

In reply to Bob Hughes:


Oh that's OK then as he never changes his mind on anything

In reply to krikoman:


Can't tell if this is irony, sarcasm, or a futile dream.

In reply to digby:

Corbyn is the last Brixiteer standing...hats off to the man, he has staying power

In reply to digby:


I too would like to know if he was being serious.

C'mon Krikoman, do you really think Corbyn could win an election now?

In reply to digby:


Go on then, none of the above, a desire to see what the electorate will do.

After all let's see what we've been told in the last few months:,

The Conservative would lose the last election.
JC wouldn't win the contest to become the Labour leader.
Cameron would win the EU referendum.
The UK wouldn't vote OUT.
Cameron would stay on what ever the result.
Gove wouldn't stand for PM.
Boris would be the next Conservative PM.

Given that all the above could be so wrong I'm prepared to give the electorate a chance to elect someone they want to be their PM, rather than rumour and bullshit choose for them.

In reply to krikoman:
And over the longer term, WMD and Cook and Kennedy were war wobblers etc etc.

He won't win though as the papers have said he won't (which could be true because they've said it and based on the brexit vote steered by the same media)

Cheers

Toby

In reply to Chris the Tall:

There's a certain irony to the fact that after months of people saying we should leave the EU because it's all run by unelected bureaucrats, we're now going to be taken out of it by a PM who not even her own party had the chance to choose democratically.

In reply to Bjartur i Sumarhus:


Very good

In reply to Toby_W:

As Krikoman said a lot of unexpected things have happened so I wouldn't rule him out on the basis that he's left wing, has an allotment ect.

I'd say he's no chance of winning an election because he's just lost of vote of no confidence among his own MPs 172-40, and has no chance of winning Scottish seats from the SNP. That doesn't bode well for forming a stable government and swing voters tend to want stability.

An election now doesn't give Momentum much time to deselect all those non-Corbyn MPs and get their own people in either.

In reply to Ramblin dave:


To be fair, she won the backing of 199 MPs (out of 329), which is a substantial majority (and a lot better than 40 out of 212). And those MPs were all elected - unlike the 0.1% of the population that makes up the Tory party electorate. So which is more democractic ?

And as I've been saying ever since Brown became PM, we don't vote for PMs or Presidents, we vote for an MP. Our constitution has it' pros and cons, and maybe we should have a complete rethink. But as it stands all that matters is that May is able to form a government which will command the support of a majority of MPs.

In reply to krikoman:


have a like

In reply to krikoman:

However it's quite easy to spot unelectable labour leaders. There's been a lot of them.

In reply to krikoman:


Thanks for that. Funniest thing I've read in ages. )

In reply to digby:


Then how do you account for him being elected leader in the first place?

We were all told he'd never make it, yet here we are still being told he's unelectable.

In reply to krikoman:


Because it is being used as shorthand for "labour government win at the general election" as opposed to win as MP or inside Labour.

In reply to KevinD:

Exactly. And there's a world of difference between his grassroots membership support - small in number but tenacious - and the likely support in the country - large and uncommitted.