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Great start to the Velodrome for the Brits.
A frighteningly quick world record marker put down by the Women's Pursuit team
And now - the Men's Team Sprint get Gold by the skin of their teeth breaking the Olympic record set by NZ in the second round (which they matched in the final)
A frighteningly quick world record marker put down by the Women's Pursuit team
And now - the Men's Team Sprint get Gold by the skin of their teeth breaking the Olympic record set by NZ in the second round (which they matched in the final)
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In reply to Christheclimber:
Victoria P says that a reasonable haul in the velodrome would be 5 Gold medals.
Is she putting the downers on our prospects now by saying that?
Victoria P says that a reasonable haul in the velodrome would be 5 Gold medals.
Is she putting the downers on our prospects now by saying that?
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In reply to veteye:
GB are favourites in both Team Pursuits, but with the Kierin, Sprints and Omniums are much more unpredictable. Hoy reckons Kenny will emulate him and get a clean sweep, and Trott is favourite for the Omnium, but Cav and James are long shots. That said, the way Cav rode at the tour, I wouldn't write him off
GB are favourites in both Team Pursuits, but with the Kierin, Sprints and Omniums are much more unpredictable. Hoy reckons Kenny will emulate him and get a clean sweep, and Trott is favourite for the Omnium, but Cav and James are long shots. That said, the way Cav rode at the tour, I wouldn't write him off
In reply to balmybaldwin:
I see the French are complaining already
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/olympic-games-french-confounded-by-british-...
"I have a inkling about certain things but I’m going to shut up because it’s not good to speak in the heat of the moment"
I see the French are complaining already
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/olympic-games-french-confounded-by-british-...
"I have a inkling about certain things but I’m going to shut up because it’s not good to speak in the heat of the moment"
In reply to Chris the Tall:
Sour grapes....if they were 2/10ths of a second slower this wouldn't have been said! I hope it fuels the GB camp...
Sour grapes....if they were 2/10ths of a second slower this wouldn't have been said! I hope it fuels the GB camp...
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In reply to abr1966:
Definitely sour grapes, I'd forgotten about the "magic wheels" lol
> Sour grapes....if they were 2/10ths of a second slower this wouldn't have been said! I hope it fuels the GB camp...
Definitely sour grapes, I'd forgotten about the "magic wheels" lol
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In reply to balmybaldwin:
Why was Callum Skinner wearing a different coloured helmet in the team sprint ?
Why was Callum Skinner wearing a different coloured helmet in the team sprint ?
In reply to veteye:
Chris Boardman says between 4 & 6 gold medals is what to expect!!!
> Victoria P says that a reasonable haul in the velodrome would be 5 Gold medals.
> Is she putting the downers on our prospects now by saying that?
Chris Boardman says between 4 & 6 gold medals is what to expect!!!
In reply to Chris the Tall:
did the same at the last Olympics when kenny won the sprint.
> I see the French are complaining already
> "I have a inkling about certain things but I’m going to shut up because it’s not good to speak in the heat of the moment"
did the same at the last Olympics when kenny won the sprint.
In reply to balmybaldwin:
Reports that Cav has thrown his toys out of the pram, refused to come to the velodrome and play his part as sub. Pretty poor show if true
Reports that Cav has thrown his toys out of the pram, refused to come to the velodrome and play his part as sub. Pretty poor show if true
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In reply to Chris the Tall:
He's just tweeted that it's bollocks.
> Reports that Cav has thrown his toys out of the pram, refused to come to the velodrome and play his part as sub. Pretty poor show if true
He's just tweeted that it's bollocks.
In reply to andy:
Awesome. And to think a few months ago all the talk was about how mean Shane Sutton was.
Awesome. And to think a few months ago all the talk was about how mean Shane Sutton was.
In reply to Yanis Nayu:
May I refer you to Mandy Rice Davies!
Thing is, it's that emotion, drive, selfishness and being slightly unhinged that makes him the great rider he is. Likewise Wiggins.
Meanwhile they've just broken the WR to make the final - woo hoo, just hope they haven't wasted too much energy, but I'll be suprised if they haven't got everything down to a plan
May I refer you to Mandy Rice Davies!
Thing is, it's that emotion, drive, selfishness and being slightly unhinged that makes him the great rider he is. Likewise Wiggins.
Meanwhile they've just broken the WR to make the final - woo hoo, just hope they haven't wasted too much energy, but I'll be suprised if they haven't got everything down to a plan
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In reply to Chris the Tall:
Of course!
> May I refer you to Mandy Rice Davies!
Of course!
> Thing is, it's that emotion, drive, selfishness and being slightly unhinged that makes him the great rider he is. Likewise Wiggins.
> Meanwhile they've just broken the WR to make the final - woo hoo, just hope they haven't wasted too much energy, but I'll be suprised if they haven't got everything down to a plan
In reply to GrahamD:
Not sure, but have noticed that some of them are wearing national and world colours on their helmets
Not sure, but have noticed that some of them are wearing national and world colours on their helmets
In reply to balmybaldwin:
Can someone explain how the reperchage will work, given that we are already starting off with 16 I.e a number that is an exponential of 2. And is exponential the right word ? 16 = 2 to the power 4
Ps I have been drinking and my brain hurts
Can someone explain how the reperchage will work, given that we are already starting off with 16 I.e a number that is an exponential of 2. And is exponential the right word ? 16 = 2 to the power 4
Ps I have been drinking and my brain hurts
In reply to balmybaldwin:
Bloody hell I thought that gap had lost it for us. amazing stuff another WR
Bloody hell I thought that gap had lost it for us. amazing stuff another WR
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In reply to balmybaldwin:
Brilliant. You can always rely on the Aussies to make a great sporting contest. That was so exciting.
Brilliant. You can always rely on the Aussies to make a great sporting contest. That was so exciting.
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In reply to Yanis Nayu:
Great watch that was. But annoyed with BBC reporting as though that was Wiggo and three incidentals. I guess it happened when Redgrave was in a boat as well.
Great watch that was. But annoyed with BBC reporting as though that was Wiggo and three incidentals. I guess it happened when Redgrave was in a boat as well.
In reply to GrahamD:
I reckon the reporting has been fair, far better than Daley and Goodfellow. The four won gold, but only Wiggins has become the first Brit to win 8 medals, which is the bigger story. I suspect that far more people could name these 4 than the other team of 4 that won gold yesterday.
I reckon the reporting has been fair, far better than Daley and Goodfellow. The four won gold, but only Wiggins has become the first Brit to win 8 medals, which is the bigger story. I suspect that far more people could name these 4 than the other team of 4 that won gold yesterday.
In reply to Calvi:
To be fair, they do all ride for Team WIGGINS, though Doull is stepping up to Sky at the end of the season. The team was set up with the dual aim of building a team pursuit squad and giving them a pathway into the professional peleton.
Doing pretty well on both counts, though when Steven Burke laboured past me up the climb from Robin Hoods bay in last year's Tour De Yorkshire, a good 30 minutes behind the peleton, he didn't look like a double gold medalist!
> I noticed that in interviews Wiggins kepy saying MY team.
To be fair, they do all ride for Team WIGGINS, though Doull is stepping up to Sky at the end of the season. The team was set up with the dual aim of building a team pursuit squad and giving them a pathway into the professional peleton.
Doing pretty well on both counts, though when Steven Burke laboured past me up the climb from Robin Hoods bay in last year's Tour De Yorkshire, a good 30 minutes behind the peleton, he didn't look like a double gold medalist!
In reply to balmybaldwin:
Random thought: how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
Random thought: how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
In reply to Chris Harris:
Track relay?
Track relay?
> how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
In reply to Chris Harris:
don't think they can just stop . they still have to finish . but the time is taken off the third rider
don't think they can just stop . they still have to finish . but the time is taken off the third rider
In reply to Indy:
I knew someone would say that, having not read my question.
I said "randomly". In track relay you drop out at a pre-ordained point - you have to, or you get disqualified. That is not "randomly dropping out". The same applies to swimming team medleys.
> Track relay?
I knew someone would say that, having not read my question.
I said "randomly". In track relay you drop out at a pre-ordained point - you have to, or you get disqualified. That is not "randomly dropping out". The same applies to swimming team medleys.
In reply to Chris Harris:
Most team sports, I should think.
> Random thought: how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
Most team sports, I should think.
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In reply to Chris Harris:
Random thought: how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
Any team sport with substitutes?
Random thought: how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
Any team sport with substitutes?
In reply to FactorXXX:
Another one who didn't read the question. I said "let his remaining mates finish the job". That precludes substitution. Also, I said "randomly drop out". Substitution is always for a reason (so not random) , and usually not the player's choice (so being taken out, not dropping out).
I'm talking about the equivalent of a football player leaving the pitch voluntarily because he's tired, leaving the remaining 10 to play out the game.
> Random thought: how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
> Any team sport with substitutes?
Another one who didn't read the question. I said "let his remaining mates finish the job". That precludes substitution. Also, I said "randomly drop out". Substitution is always for a reason (so not random) , and usually not the player's choice (so being taken out, not dropping out).
I'm talking about the equivalent of a football player leaving the pitch voluntarily because he's tired, leaving the remaining 10 to play out the game.
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In reply to Chris Harris:
but that's not the same . the rider still has to finish . the equivalant in football would be a player being tired and not being able to run as fast but still being on the pitch
> Another one who didn't read the question. I said "let his remaining mates finish the job". That precludes substitution. Also, I said "randomly drop out". Substitution is always for a reason (so not random) , and usually not the player's choice (so being taken out, not dropping out).
> I'm talking about the equivalent of a football player leaving the pitch voluntarily because he's tired, leaving the remaining 10 to play out the game.
but that's not the same . the rider still has to finish . the equivalant in football would be a player being tired and not being able to run as fast but still being on the pitch
In reply to tim000:
Fair point. The equivalent of an exhausted player wandering slowly about doing nothing for the last 10 minutes. Or the entire England team, for 90 minutes.....
Maybe I should clarify further to restrict the question to sports where it's the norm/part of the rules.
Fair point. The equivalent of an exhausted player wandering slowly about doing nothing for the last 10 minutes. Or the entire England team, for 90 minutes.....
Maybe I should clarify further to restrict the question to sports where it's the norm/part of the rules.
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In reply to tim000:
Which rider has to finish?
> but that's not the same . the rider still has to finish . the equivalant in football would be a player being tired and not being able to run as fast but still being on the pitch
Which rider has to finish?
In reply to Calvi:
I'd guess it pretty much is. And that's not a criticism of him.
> I noticed that in interviews Wiggins kepy saying MY team.
I'd guess it pretty much is. And that's not a criticism of him.
In reply to Mike Highbury:
all of then . the last rider can slow down as the time is taken off the 3rd rider .
all of then . the last rider can slow down as the time is taken off the 3rd rider .
In reply to Chris Harris:
Apart from the slight inconvenience of your having used the words "race" and "medal" I would say: Mountaineering.
> Random thought: how many other events/sports are there where a team member can randomly drop out part way through the race, let his remaining mates finish the job, and still get the medal?
Apart from the slight inconvenience of your having used the words "race" and "medal" I would say: Mountaineering.
In reply to Indy:
... come to think of it Everest 53 has often been referred to as a race and I'd be surprised if any of the team, only 2 of whom summitted, didn't end up with medals!
... come to think of it Everest 53 has often been referred to as a race and I'd be surprised if any of the team, only 2 of whom summitted, didn't end up with medals!
In reply to Mike Highbury:
just checked the rules and it says the race ends when the 3rd rider crosses the line . so I was wrong , last rider doesn't need to finish . although in reality they probably would in the wind down.
just checked the rules and it says the race ends when the 3rd rider crosses the line . so I was wrong , last rider doesn't need to finish . although in reality they probably would in the wind down.
In reply to tim000:
Good point. Otherwise the front 3 would be looking over their shoulders after crossing the line, to check that #4 was still moving.
> just checked the rules and it says the race ends when the 3rd rider crosses the line . so I was wrong , last rider doesn't need to finish . although in reality they probably would in the wind down.
Good point. Otherwise the front 3 would be looking over their shoulders after crossing the line, to check that #4 was still moving.
In reply to balmybaldwin:
What a race by our sprint women! Amazing effort and so controlled. New world record - well deserved.
What a race by our sprint women! Amazing effort and so controlled. New world record - well deserved.
In reply to Alyson:
I think you mean team pursuit .we don't have a team sprint there . but yes , brilliant . and for becky james to get silver .
I think you mean team pursuit .we don't have a team sprint there . but yes , brilliant . and for becky james to get silver .
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In reply to balmybaldwin:
Did anyone notice Brad nearly fall off his bike at the start of the TP when he tried to adjust his junk?
Did anyone notice Brad nearly fall off his bike at the start of the TP when he tried to adjust his junk?
In reply to tim000:
Am I right in thinking that James will go again in the woman's sprint, and only Kenny in the Keirin ?
Am I right in thinking that James will go again in the woman's sprint, and only Kenny in the Keirin ?
In reply to Alyson:
Yes well done.
A fellow local cyclist knows Katy Archbald .she only took up cycling a few years ago and has come a long way .
Sure he said she first did a race for a laugh at a Highland Games.
Yes well done.
A fellow local cyclist knows Katy Archbald .she only took up cycling a few years ago and has come a long way .
Sure he said she first did a race for a laugh at a Highland Games.
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In reply to Chris the Tall:
Kenny and Matt Crampton I think.
EDIT: Maybe not - this says he's not going, but then lists him in the team:
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/olympics/gb-cycling-team-olympic...
> Am I right in thinking that James will go again in the woman's sprint, and only Kenny in the Keirin ?
Kenny and Matt Crampton I think.
EDIT: Maybe not - this says he's not going, but then lists him in the team:
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/olympics/gb-cycling-team-olympic...
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In reply to nufkin:
He does help pay the wages of at least one of them.
> Not 'ours', they're Bradley's
He does help pay the wages of at least one of them.
In reply to The New NickB:
Cracking impromptu interview from Cav after the kilo - interrupted Jill Douglas and Hoy mid-discussion.
Cracking impromptu interview from Cav after the kilo - interrupted Jill Douglas and Hoy mid-discussion.
In reply to andy:
Yes, I enjoyed that. If he can go sub 13 on the flying lap, it will make things very interesting in the points race.
> Cracking impromptu interview from Cav after the kilo - interrupted Jill Douglas and Hoy mid-discussion.
Yes, I enjoyed that. If he can go sub 13 on the flying lap, it will make things very interesting in the points race.
In reply to The New NickB:
Oh dear Cav. Silly mistake and could have serious consequences. I hope the injured rider is OK.
Oh dear Cav. Silly mistake and could have serious consequences. I hope the injured rider is OK.
In reply to Yanis Nayu:
Cav did well but what a mad race! Viviani was brilliant.
Laura Trott is going well and in first place.
Cav did well but what a mad race! Viviani was brilliant.
Laura Trott is going well and in first place.
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In reply to Gone for good:
In a class of her own by the look of it.
> Great ride by Laura Trott. She is class.
In a class of her own by the look of it.
In reply to Gone for good:
Laura Trott - 2 firsts and a second today, incredible performance. Just worry that if she is so far ahead the others would expect her to do all the chasing in the points race.
When the omnium was introduced there was widespread derision (sound familiar) but it's fascinating, so tactical and really exciting- esp the devil.
As to Cav, pleased to see him get a medal, but you can see his joy is slightly tempered by the colour. Viviani the worthy winner, but you know Cav will be thinking about his mistake in the devil - who knows how it would have played out. Pretty impressed that he knew what he needed to do at the end. As to the crash - suprised there is provision for a penalty, but it seems there isn't.
Laura Trott - 2 firsts and a second today, incredible performance. Just worry that if she is so far ahead the others would expect her to do all the chasing in the points race.
When the omnium was introduced there was widespread derision (sound familiar) but it's fascinating, so tactical and really exciting- esp the devil.
As to Cav, pleased to see him get a medal, but you can see his joy is slightly tempered by the colour. Viviani the worthy winner, but you know Cav will be thinking about his mistake in the devil - who knows how it would have played out. Pretty impressed that he knew what he needed to do at the end. As to the crash - suprised there is provision for a penalty, but it seems there isn't.
In reply to Chris the Tall:
Hopefully she can get far enough ahead to only have to mark one or two others. She is looking like a woman who is completely under control on the track right now - hugely impressive.
> Laura Trott - 2 firsts and a second today, incredible performance. Just worry that if she is so far ahead the others would expect her to do all the chasing in the points race.
Hopefully she can get far enough ahead to only have to mark one or two others. She is looking like a woman who is completely under control on the track right now - hugely impressive.
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In reply to balmybaldwin:
Reports that the columbians want Cav DQ-ed
http://road.cc/content/news/201080-colombian-federation-reportedly-set-chal...
Careless but clearly accidental, not like the open-water wrestling
Reports that the columbians want Cav DQ-ed
http://road.cc/content/news/201080-colombian-federation-reportedly-set-chal...
Careless but clearly accidental, not like the open-water wrestling
In reply to Chris the Tall:
Not got a leg to stand on. The gold medallist went down, got up and won. Not sure how the crash the Colombian wasn't involved in effected him.
Yes Cav was careless, but if the Korean(?) had been looking forward instead of backwards he could easily have avoided it
Not got a leg to stand on. The gold medallist went down, got up and won. Not sure how the crash the Colombian wasn't involved in effected him.
Yes Cav was careless, but if the Korean(?) had been looking forward instead of backwards he could easily have avoided it
In reply to Chris the Tall:
Racing incident, one person looking one way, one looking the other, nothing much more to it really ?
Racing incident, one person looking one way, one looking the other, nothing much more to it really ?
In reply to balmybaldwin:
viviani did a similar move later in the race . nearly taking out the french rider.
viviani did a similar move later in the race . nearly taking out the french rider.
In reply to Christheclimber:
Laura Trott is AWESOME!
> Cav did well but what a mad race! Viviani was brilliant.
> Laura Trott is going well and in first place.
Laura Trott is AWESOME!
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In reply to Yanis Nayu:
Wow, what a dominant performance! Love that girl. Total hero.
> Laura Trott is AWESOME!
Wow, what a dominant performance! Love that girl. Total hero.
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In reply to Tall Clare:
Amazing team performance, every member of the track cycling team has now won a medal.
Utter dominance from Trott. The future Mr Trott isn't too bad either!
Amazing team performance, every member of the track cycling team has now won a medal.
Utter dominance from Trott. The future Mr Trott isn't too bad either!
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In reply to Yanis Nayu:
Now hopefully the icing on the British cycling team cake!
Now hopefully the icing on the British cycling team cake!
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In reply to toad:
Sensible, maybe not. More objectively measurable definitely.
> I'm not sure chase the moped is any more sensible than horse dansing
Sensible, maybe not. More objectively measurable definitely.
Oh bugger. Not again!
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In reply to toad:
Very simple they have to follow the moped in line as it speeds up slowly to 50kph, with 2.5 laps to go it pulls off and they then race to the finish.
It is a bit weird tho
Very simple they have to follow the moped in line as it speeds up slowly to 50kph, with 2.5 laps to go it pulls off and they then race to the finish.
It is a bit weird tho
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In reply to balmybaldwin:
There's a funny mix of body shapes and sizes on the track for both the men and the women. Quite often the skinny one wins but sometimes it's the brick shitehouse who wins.
There's a funny mix of body shapes and sizes on the track for both the men and the women. Quite often the skinny one wins but sometimes it's the brick shitehouse who wins.
In reply to elsewhere:
yep quite interesting. I did a track session in the run up to 2012 at cardiff with Rebecca Romero and as we were kitting up the NZ women's pursuit team were finishing a training session. 2 of them had thighs like Jonah Lomu (at least as thick as my waist) but the third had skinny legs like me. they were quite an intimidating sight at full chat!
yep quite interesting. I did a track session in the run up to 2012 at cardiff with Rebecca Romero and as we were kitting up the NZ women's pursuit team were finishing a training session. 2 of them had thighs like Jonah Lomu (at least as thick as my waist) but the third had skinny legs like me. they were quite an intimidating sight at full chat!
In reply to Yanis Nayu:
Can we delay the start of this state-sponsored breeding programme for at least 4 years ?
Actually I think we're going to need to set up a special academy for these kids, I can picture the classroom...
Up at the front is Kenny Trott-Kenny, keen as mustard, gold stars every week. And next to him the glamorous yet hard-working Rowan King-Rowe. Sat behind is James North-James, banging his head on his desk, or his knees, or the walls. And at the back is Phillip Varnish-Phillips, baseball cap on backwards, not very happy....
Meanwhile Dani Armitstead-Deignan is missing...again
> Imagine what her and Jason Kenny's kids will be like?
Can we delay the start of this state-sponsored breeding programme for at least 4 years ?
Actually I think we're going to need to set up a special academy for these kids, I can picture the classroom...
Up at the front is Kenny Trott-Kenny, keen as mustard, gold stars every week. And next to him the glamorous yet hard-working Rowan King-Rowe. Sat behind is James North-James, banging his head on his desk, or his knees, or the walls. And at the back is Phillip Varnish-Phillips, baseball cap on backwards, not very happy....
Meanwhile Dani Armitstead-Deignan is missing...again
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In reply to Chris the Tall:
Any time i've been on a bike ride of any length with a group of women, talk very rapidly seems to turn to the adverse effect its having on them below - breeding definately not on their radar. Might just be the effect I have of course...
Any time i've been on a bike ride of any length with a group of women, talk very rapidly seems to turn to the adverse effect its having on them below - breeding definately not on their radar. Might just be the effect I have of course...
In reply to Tall Clare:
They'll only be able to turn left though.
> Can't imagine they'll need stabilisers on their bikes for long...
They'll only be able to turn left though.
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In reply to GrahamD:
A sensitive subject, tackled well in a recent article in CyclingUK (CTC) magazine, and here
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/aug/15/team-gb-cycling-saddle-s...
Road.cc unfortunately went for the clickbait http://road.cc/content/news/201239-no-brazilians-brazil-team-gb
A sensitive subject, tackled well in a recent article in CyclingUK (CTC) magazine, and here
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/aug/15/team-gb-cycling-saddle-s...
Road.cc unfortunately went for the clickbait http://road.cc/content/news/201239-no-brazilians-brazil-team-gb
In reply to Chris the Tall:
That gels with the "old wives" remedies I've heard bandied about. I'll forward that on to MrsD who was slightly sceptical of me advising her to try to icrease saddle tilt.
That gels with the "old wives" remedies I've heard bandied about. I'll forward that on to MrsD who was slightly sceptical of me advising her to try to icrease saddle tilt.
In reply to Chris the Tall:
It's all about vaginal gains.
> A sensitive subject, tackled well in a recent article in CyclingUK (CTC) magazine, and here
It's all about vaginal gains.
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