In reply to balmybaldwin:
I'm not 100% sure why I'm replying to this as I'm probably just opening myself up to abuse. In the interests of openness, I'm a teacher in a grammar school. I realise that makes me the devil squared to some on here.
I think before considering the types of school we have first you have to consider the point of the education system. I don't believe it's there to provide qualifications but to allow young people to realise their potential and give them the chance to be a useful member of society. Unlike the new educational targets this does not mean getting the best 8 GCSEs possible. Sometimes this means listening to the child and doing what they ask, sometimes it means ignoring them. Take the following examples, all very common in my experience:
Jocelyn is a clever girl, she loves reading but cannot see the point in being able to solve a quadratic equation. She wants to be a hairdresser.
Mark doesn't see the point in school at all. At 16 he's going to be an apprentice (you have to be learning until 18 now) in his dad's building firm.
Pete likes school, especially languages. Unfortunately he's not very good at the subjects, if he's lucky he might scrape a pass at GCSE.
Darren is a brilliant footballer, he is on the books for the local premier league youth team. He trains 5 times a week and can't see any reason for being in school at all. Despite this outlook he has always shown academic potential.
Tracey has the potential to be an excellent scientist, she is outstanding at all the core subjects but could do with a little bit of help from time to time in maths.
With the current education system all 5 of these young people end up in the same classes attempting the same qualifications. It's effectively how our education system is set up, the qualification matters and progress8 is king. But is this best for the kids:
Jocelyn knows what she wants to do, she has a valid career path with good prospects for the future. She should be doing things that prepare her for this. She's even right about the quadratic equations, of course she shouldn't be allowed to drop maths but she should be learning relevant maths: how to budget, how does interest work etc. Instead she could well be the one stopping Tracey get that extra bit of help.
Mark also has a potentially decent career lined up. He's wrong about school being pointless but with what he's experiencing you can't really blame him. He could do with something similar to Jocelyn, without the literature perhaps but the ability to read and write formal letters, calculate amounts and do practical work would stand him in great stead.
Pete is the one I really feel for, in the subjects he loves he's going to be bottom set. The teacher is mainly going to be crowd controlling the Marks and Darrens. Pete was never going to go to university or even study A-levels but right now he's not even going to have the GCSEs to show for the last few years.
What do you think about Darren? As adults we know the chances of him making it are tiny but surely he should be given the chance. Right now he has to do a minimum of 8 GCSEs wouldn't a better option be to force him to do the core subjects and maybe one or two others. That way he'll be less tired and more able to focus on the studies he has, meaning he'll have a back up.
Tracey is probably the only "Grammar-School Kid" in this list, she'll do OK wherever she goes but with the teacher keeping Jocelyn and her mates under control is she going to reach her full potential?
All of these kids have bright futures, just like the vast majority of young people do, however, trying to force them into a one size fits all school doesn't allow them the best opportunity to reach their potential. In my view the school system needs a massive overhaul. I propose a three school system, at one end you have the grammar school focussing on traditional academic subjects, at the other end technical schools teaching kids skills that lead to careers. As a country we are crying out for skilled workers: plumbers, electricians , mechanics, joiners etc. You need a bit of maths, a bit of English but you don't need to know how to analyse a poem. When Johnny comes out of primary school unable to write a sentence why are we trying to teach him to conjugate avoir in the pluperfect? Then in the middle for most kids schools which are a mixture of the two. This, as far as I'm aware, is similar to the system in Germany; one key place we differ is in the respect we have for skilled tradespeople.
This system is far from perfect, something that is essential for it to work fairly is the ability to transfer between schools. Moreover, I haven't even considered provision for pupils with special educational needs which is horrendous at the moment.
So there you go, flame away. I'll probably be too busy marking to read anything.
PS another reason I'm such a fan of the grammar system is I'm a product of it. The first child in my family to do A-levels, let alone go to university and on to post graduate study. At work I meet a lot of young people in a similar situation so don't tell me they hinder social mobility. Also some people have commented on tutoring kids through the entrance exam. IMO this is borderline cruelty as those kids stick out a mile, I really feel for them as they struggle to keep up in pretty much every lesson for 5 years but that's the fault of the parents not the system.