In reply to ecrinscollective:
Hi I've been climbing in a pair for a month or so. They are excellent, no different from my catana lace ups. Same lacing system, same rubber. Good on smears, edging and in every way so far. I went for my every day shoe size, started out a tight fit but are starting to stretch I can see them becoming a good comfortable fit. I go 1,1/2 - 2 sizes down in sportivas. So excellent boots at half the price wots not to like.