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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38021820
Trump has settled the "Trump University" fraud case. agreeing to pay £25 million dollars. He accepts no liability of course. Imagine if this had happened to Obama, between election and inauguration.
Be proud Americans. This man is your president. Jayzus!
Trump has settled the "Trump University" fraud case. agreeing to pay £25 million dollars. He accepts no liability of course. Imagine if this had happened to Obama, between election and inauguration.
Be proud Americans. This man is your president. Jayzus!
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
I don't know you from the biscuit in the middle of the packet that's sitting on the third shelf of the fourth aisle in your local supermarket, but just to give me some more info on your good self, who did you vote for (party) in the last General Election?
I don't know you from the biscuit in the middle of the packet that's sitting on the third shelf of the fourth aisle in your local supermarket, but just to give me some more info on your good self, who did you vote for (party) in the last General Election?
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In reply to Lusk:
Monster Raving Loony ??
> , who did you vote for (party) in the last General Election?
Monster Raving Loony ??
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In reply to Lusk:
You tell me who you voted for first. You don't need to tell me your address though, that's private.
> I don't know you from the biscuit in the middle of the packet that's sitting on the third shelf of the fourth aisle in your local supermarket, but just to give me some more info on your good self, who did you vote for (party) in the last General Election?
You tell me who you voted for first. You don't need to tell me your address though, that's private.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
This sort of nonsense is why he got voted in. Nobody in America believes this rubbish. The media or internet people insulting them only made them more determined to vote for Trump. The left is finished.
This sort of nonsense is why he got voted in. Nobody in America believes this rubbish. The media or internet people insulting them only made them more determined to vote for Trump. The left is finished.
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In reply to Jim 1003:
What nonesense? Hasn't he just settled out of court?
> This sort of nonsense is why he got voted in. Nobody in America believes this rubbish. The media or internet people insulting them only made them more determined to vote for Trump. The left is finished.
What nonesense? Hasn't he just settled out of court?
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In reply to Jim 1003:
There's a link in my post. This is not Alt-Right/Kremlin post truth fake news. It is the genuine BBC I promise you. Also it's all over Sky News etc.
Believe it: Trump is a fraud and if he hadn't settled out of court he'd be a convicted fraud. At least the poor suckers who paid him $35000 dollars to enrol in the Trump University will get some of their money back.( I'll bet Breitbart News find one of them who is a satisfied customer though.)
There's more , much , much more coming through. He has been destroying emails and transactional records for years in defiance of state investigators' orders.
The Republicans who have used him will now be plotting his downfall. Personally I hope he doesn't end up upside down hanging from a lamp post. If he just goes away that will do.
There's a link in my post. This is not Alt-Right/Kremlin post truth fake news. It is the genuine BBC I promise you. Also it's all over Sky News etc.
Believe it: Trump is a fraud and if he hadn't settled out of court he'd be a convicted fraud. At least the poor suckers who paid him $35000 dollars to enrol in the Trump University will get some of their money back.( I'll bet Breitbart News find one of them who is a satisfied customer though.)
There's more , much , much more coming through. He has been destroying emails and transactional records for years in defiance of state investigators' orders.
The Republicans who have used him will now be plotting his downfall. Personally I hope he doesn't end up upside down hanging from a lamp post. If he just goes away that will do.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
Genuine.
Hahahahahahahaha another cracker. You guys crack me up.
> It is the genuine BBC
Genuine.
Hahahahahahahaha another cracker. You guys crack me up.
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In reply to Jim 1003:
Spot on.
And funny how they fail to see the corruption on clintons side too.
> This sort of nonsense is why he got voted in. Nobody in America believes this rubbish. The media or internet people insulting them only made them more determined to vote for Trump. The left is finished.
Spot on.
And funny how they fail to see the corruption on clintons side too.
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In reply to Bootrock:
Judging by the quality of these responses I'm thinking you graduated from Trump University.
Just one question: Why don't you believe that Trump has settled out of court to the tune of $25,000, 000 ?
They were claiming $40,000,000, so I suppose he will be chalking that up as a victory.
Judging by the quality of these responses I'm thinking you graduated from Trump University.
Just one question: Why don't you believe that Trump has settled out of court to the tune of $25,000, 000 ?
They were claiming $40,000,000, so I suppose he will be chalking that up as a victory.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
Never went to uni, I paid my taxes and got a job. I ain't no tax dodging pretentious arsehole with a degree in basket weaving or equal nonsense. University of hard knocks mate.
I never said I don't believe it. I was laughing at someone saying the BBC like its some genuine, non bias, reliable news source.
I couldn't give a shit what trump does. And if you do, why don't you care about Clintons corruption? She ain't no saint either. And she is the reason the democrats lost.
Never went to uni, I paid my taxes and got a job. I ain't no tax dodging pretentious arsehole with a degree in basket weaving or equal nonsense. University of hard knocks mate.
I never said I don't believe it. I was laughing at someone saying the BBC like its some genuine, non bias, reliable news source.
I couldn't give a shit what trump does. And if you do, why don't you care about Clintons corruption? She ain't no saint either. And she is the reason the democrats lost.
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In reply to Bootrock:
No matter how corrupt the Clintons may be, I can guarantee you that Trump is a thousand times more corrupt.
> And funny how they fail to see the corruption on clintons side too.
No matter how corrupt the Clintons may be, I can guarantee you that Trump is a thousand times more corrupt.
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In reply to Bootrock:
Trump University is the University of Hard Knocks mate, with a golden makeover. You give Trump $35,000 and you get a gold embossed certificate from Trump with the university motto "HA HA HA" "on it. Then you go away.
Just a normal news item. Fact not post fact.
You will.
> Never went to uni, I paid my taxes and got a job. I ain't no tax dodging pretentious arsehole with a degree in basket weaving or equal nonsense. University of hard knocks mate.
Trump University is the University of Hard Knocks mate, with a golden makeover. You give Trump $35,000 and you get a gold embossed certificate from Trump with the university motto "HA HA HA" "on it. Then you go away.
> I never said I don't believe it. I was laughing at someone saying the BBC like its some genuine, non bias, reliable news source.
Just a normal news item. Fact not post fact.
> I couldn't give a shit what trump does.
You will.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
Much like a lot of online courses and indeed major universities, who make up terrible courses that aren't much more than a gimmick and the. People wonder why they "can't get a job". I see no difference to be fair.
But it's the BBC, hardly non bias.
Not as much as Clinton.
> Trump University is the University of Hard Knocks mate, with a golden makeover. You give Trump $35,000 and you get a gold embossed certificate from Trump with the university motto "HA HA HA" "on it. Then you go away.
Much like a lot of online courses and indeed major universities, who make up terrible courses that aren't much more than a gimmick and the. People wonder why they "can't get a job". I see no difference to be fair.
> Just a normal news item. Fact not post fact.
But it's the BBC, hardly non bias.
> You will.
Not as much as Clinton.
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Haha another blinder! Mate this forum gives me the giggles sometimes. I just spilled my tea at this comment. Oh you guys!
> No matter how corrupt the Clintons may be, I can guarantee you that Trump is a thousand times more corrupt.
Haha another blinder! Mate this forum gives me the giggles sometimes. I just spilled my tea at this comment. Oh you guys!
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In reply to Rylstone_Cowboy:
The trouble is you can't guarantee anything because you don't actually know anything about Trump or Clinton. Personally, I don't like either, but it appears the reason Trump won is because the Americans got fed up with the constant rubbish in the media about him, and then voted for him because he might try and make sure everybody has a job.
> No matter how corrupt the Clintons may be, I can guarantee you that Trump is a thousand times more corrupt.
The trouble is you can't guarantee anything because you don't actually know anything about Trump or Clinton. Personally, I don't like either, but it appears the reason Trump won is because the Americans got fed up with the constant rubbish in the media about him, and then voted for him because he might try and make sure everybody has a job.
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In reply to Bootrock:
If you ever did a day's work and paid a penny in tax that's one day and one penny more than your hero. According to Trump, tax dodging "makes me smart". I'm inclined to agree with you, Boot, about what it makes him.
> , I paid my taxes and got a job. I ain't no tax dodging pretentious arsehole
If you ever did a day's work and paid a penny in tax that's one day and one penny more than your hero. According to Trump, tax dodging "makes me smart". I'm inclined to agree with you, Boot, about what it makes him.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
It's interesting to me how Trump marketed himself as a top negotiator who never settles. A top negotiator is just someone who's really good at finding compromises which leaves both parties satisfied, while maximizing his own gain. Forcing people to pay for walls or move their business to the US isn't a good way to negotiate unless if you give them something in return for it. Seems like people have this image that just smooth-talking is enough and companies and countries fall in line.
It's interesting to me how Trump marketed himself as a top negotiator who never settles. A top negotiator is just someone who's really good at finding compromises which leaves both parties satisfied, while maximizing his own gain. Forcing people to pay for walls or move their business to the US isn't a good way to negotiate unless if you give them something in return for it. Seems like people have this image that just smooth-talking is enough and companies and countries fall in line.
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In reply to Jim 1003:
Trump won because of the peculiarities of the system, let's not forget that the majority of Americans who voted, didn't vote for him and when all the votes are finally counted it is likely that Clinton will have received at least a million more votes than Trump. Most American don't think like you are claiming.
> The trouble is you can't guarantee anything because you don't actually know anything about Trump or Clinton. Personally, I don't like either, but it appears the reason Trump won is because the Americans got fed up with the constant rubbish in the media about him, and then voted for him because he might try and make sure everybody has a job.
Trump won because of the peculiarities of the system, let's not forget that the majority of Americans who voted, didn't vote for him and when all the votes are finally counted it is likely that Clinton will have received at least a million more votes than Trump. Most American don't think like you are claiming.
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In reply to TheFasting:
Smooth talking? How about, vile, garbled, lying, hectoring?
> Seems like people have this image that just smooth-talking is enough and companies and countries fall in line.
Smooth talking? How about, vile, garbled, lying, hectoring?
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
Hey, I would if I could. It's not like our taxes get spent on the stuff that matter and not the welfare bunnies and other countries that can afford space programmes, or fat cat elite in Brussels.
That reminds me, why does the BMC offer an unemployment discount? If you got time for cracking hills, you got time to find a job. Why do I get penalised for having a job?
> If you ever did a day's work and paid a penny in tax that's one day and one penny more than your hero. According to Trump, tax dodging "makes me smart". I'm inclined to agree with you, Boot, about what it makes him.
Hey, I would if I could. It's not like our taxes get spent on the stuff that matter and not the welfare bunnies and other countries that can afford space programmes, or fat cat elite in Brussels.
That reminds me, why does the BMC offer an unemployment discount? If you got time for cracking hills, you got time to find a job. Why do I get penalised for having a job?
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In reply to The New NickB:
Funny how they liked the system when they were getting their own way, and now it hasn't, it's the systems fault.
Clinton lost it. Fact. Different Democrat, would be a different outcome. I did tell you all. But you laughed at me. Just wish I put a bet on, my mate won 800 sheets!
> Trump won because of the peculiarities of the system, let's not forget that the majority of Americans who voted, didn't vote for him and when all the votes are finally counted it is likely that Clinton will have received at least a million more votes than Trump. Most American don't think like you are claiming.
Funny how they liked the system when they were getting their own way, and now it hasn't, it's the systems fault.
Clinton lost it. Fact. Different Democrat, would be a different outcome. I did tell you all. But you laughed at me. Just wish I put a bet on, my mate won 800 sheets!
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I'm guessing you went to 'School of Life' too?
> University of hard knocks mate.
I'm guessing you went to 'School of Life' too?
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In reply to Bimble:
You catch on quick. With that sort of aptitude you must have a degree!
> I'm guessing you went to 'School of Life' too?
You catch on quick. With that sort of aptitude you must have a degree!
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In reply to Bootrock:
Two of them as it goes, and neither of them from imaginary establishments that oiks like to use on Facebook.
I'm sure if you had gained an actual education you'd be able to have a more enlightened world view, as well as realising that it is entirely possible to criticise Trump while not directly endorsing Clinton & her many downsides.
> You catch on quick. With that sort of aptitude you must have a degree!
Two of them as it goes, and neither of them from imaginary establishments that oiks like to use on Facebook.
I'm sure if you had gained an actual education you'd be able to have a more enlightened world view, as well as realising that it is entirely possible to criticise Trump while not directly endorsing Clinton & her many downsides.
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Unsurprisingly, you have completely missed my point.
> Funny how they liked the system when they were getting their own way, and now it hasn't, it's the systems fault.
Unsurprisingly, you have completely missed my point.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
It's more like a child throwing a tantrum to me. I was referring more to how his supporters seem to view him.
It's more like a child throwing a tantrum to me. I was referring more to how his supporters seem to view him.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
he is far from defeated. he gave the world a good lesson in media manipulation in the 21st century.
in fact he deserves an honorary PhD in that topic.
he is far from defeated. he gave the world a good lesson in media manipulation in the 21st century.
in fact he deserves an honorary PhD in that topic.
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In reply to Bimble:
an actual education? Education isn't all about debt and a fancy bit of paper. There's plenty of experience to be had without the skive of uni, dodging tax, demanding discounts, not paying interest and racking up debts on j£ger and basket weaving courses.
I think I will stick to my world view thanks, I have been out and seen most of it, I haven't sat in a dorm writing essays about it.
I actually agree with your last point though. Fancy a rum?
> I'm sure if you had gained an actual education you'd be able to have a more enlightened world view, as well as realising that it is entirely possible to criticise Trump while not directly endorsing Clinton & her many downsides.
an actual education? Education isn't all about debt and a fancy bit of paper. There's plenty of experience to be had without the skive of uni, dodging tax, demanding discounts, not paying interest and racking up debts on j£ger and basket weaving courses.
I think I will stick to my world view thanks, I have been out and seen most of it, I haven't sat in a dorm writing essays about it.
I actually agree with your last point though. Fancy a rum?
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In reply to Bootrock:
Why not read up on what was promised by Trump and his university. You've waded into this with obviously no knowledge on this matter.
> Much like a lot of online courses and indeed major universities, who make up terrible courses that aren't much more than a gimmick and the. People wonder why they "can't get a job". I see no difference to be fair.
> But it's the BBC, hardly non bias.
> Not as much as Clinton.
Why not read up on what was promised by Trump and his university. You've waded into this with obviously no knowledge on this matter.
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In reply to Bimble:
Don't forget the 'Kindergarten of getting the shit kicked out of him'...
> I'm guessing you went to 'School of Life' too?
Don't forget the 'Kindergarten of getting the shit kicked out of him'...
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
Or perhaps, having seen the impact overhanging court cases have on incumbent presidents, the wise move by anyone would be to settle (especially if the cost is relative small change)?
This is a victory for the people bringing the court cases. On balance and excluding the personal cost, its also a victory for Trump.
You can of course try and twist this in to another reason to hate Trump but, other than raising your own blood pressure, the only likely impact of that is to reinforce the views of those who did vote for him and further encourage them to overlook the real and actual flaws that do emerge around his presidency.
Or perhaps, having seen the impact overhanging court cases have on incumbent presidents, the wise move by anyone would be to settle (especially if the cost is relative small change)?
This is a victory for the people bringing the court cases. On balance and excluding the personal cost, its also a victory for Trump.
You can of course try and twist this in to another reason to hate Trump but, other than raising your own blood pressure, the only likely impact of that is to reinforce the views of those who did vote for him and further encourage them to overlook the real and actual flaws that do emerge around his presidency.
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In reply to Ridge:
Only after graduating from the 'Nursery of being dropped on his head as a baby.'
> Don't forget the 'Kindergarten of getting the shit kicked out of him'...
Only after graduating from the 'Nursery of being dropped on his head as a baby.'
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In reply to deepsoup:
Can we stop this line of thought about now?
> Only after graduating from the 'Nursery of being dropped on his head as a baby.'
Can we stop this line of thought about now?
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In reply to Jim 1003:
Yea all hail the unregulated free market economy, where lying cheating and stealing are all fine long as they're done at a corporate level.
Yea all hail the unregulated free market economy, where lying cheating and stealing are all fine long as they're done at a corporate level.
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In reply to David Martin:
People need to snap out of their mass zombie state and start fighting this abomination with everything they've got. We, ie the World, cannot wait for the Trump gangsters to start cocking things up before we start the impeachment process. Right now he is guilty of fraud, sexual assault, libel, slander, perverting the course of justice and gargantuan corporate malpractice. He expects to be able to carry on running his international business interests from the White House through his family who he has already started to involve in government.
Do any of them have the slightest idea of acceptable standards of behaviour or the constitution?
The unthinkable is happening so it's time to start thinking again. If Trump can get in, he can be got out again. It doesn't require a popular uprising just the law to be upheld.
By the way, Bootrock went to the School of Rock, obviously.
People need to snap out of their mass zombie state and start fighting this abomination with everything they've got. We, ie the World, cannot wait for the Trump gangsters to start cocking things up before we start the impeachment process. Right now he is guilty of fraud, sexual assault, libel, slander, perverting the course of justice and gargantuan corporate malpractice. He expects to be able to carry on running his international business interests from the White House through his family who he has already started to involve in government.
Do any of them have the slightest idea of acceptable standards of behaviour or the constitution?
The unthinkable is happening so it's time to start thinking again. If Trump can get in, he can be got out again. It doesn't require a popular uprising just the law to be upheld.
By the way, Bootrock went to the School of Rock, obviously.
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In reply to deepsoup:
And growing up in the cot of disappointment.
> Only after graduating from the 'Nursery of being dropped on his head as a baby.'
And growing up in the cot of disappointment.
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In reply to Hyphin:
You still don't get it, the abuse made people vote for him, nobody believes it.....
You still don't get it, the abuse made people vote for him, nobody believes it.....
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In reply to Jim 1003:
You know what, it wasn't abuse. It was simply a repetition of what he actually said and did. I'm sorry but Trump's victory is quite simply a fight back by white America. They are sick of being pushed around so they've chosen to be the latest civilised country to put all their trust in a fascist charlatan. How soon after inauguration will it be before Trump realises he has the power to make people disappear...?
> You still don't get it, the abuse made people vote for him, nobody believes it.....
You know what, it wasn't abuse. It was simply a repetition of what he actually said and did. I'm sorry but Trump's victory is quite simply a fight back by white America. They are sick of being pushed around so they've chosen to be the latest civilised country to put all their trust in a fascist charlatan. How soon after inauguration will it be before Trump realises he has the power to make people disappear...?
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In reply to Bootrock:
More post truth nonsense from ukcs favourite ait right fascist fanboy
Point to any US election Result where the electoral college delivered a democratic victory over a Republican win in the popular vote.
Or where any 'special snowflake' on here has said anything about the system other than its absurd and anti democratic.
A million more people voted Hillary than for the donald. When a million more voted for brexit than remain, then the democratic wishes of the electorate had to be respected- and rightly so. But when the obscure workings of a 250 year old system deliver the result they want, the fascist fanboys are happy to dismiss the will of the people in an instant.
Note- not saying that trump voters are fascists tbemselves- but they have cast their vote for someone who says and does things that are lifted straight out of the fascist playbook.
As for ukcs trump buddies- I've no idea whether they'd be fascists given the opportunity, but the way they lap up and regurgitate the buzzwords of the alt right gives pause for thought.
And considerable entertainment- so come on bootrock, its going to be a slow day, a bit of buzzword bingo will make it go by faster. ..
> Funny how they liked the system when they were getting their own way, and now it hasn't, it's the systems fault.
More post truth nonsense from ukcs favourite ait right fascist fanboy
Point to any US election Result where the electoral college delivered a democratic victory over a Republican win in the popular vote.
Or where any 'special snowflake' on here has said anything about the system other than its absurd and anti democratic.
A million more people voted Hillary than for the donald. When a million more voted for brexit than remain, then the democratic wishes of the electorate had to be respected- and rightly so. But when the obscure workings of a 250 year old system deliver the result they want, the fascist fanboys are happy to dismiss the will of the people in an instant.
Note- not saying that trump voters are fascists tbemselves- but they have cast their vote for someone who says and does things that are lifted straight out of the fascist playbook.
As for ukcs trump buddies- I've no idea whether they'd be fascists given the opportunity, but the way they lap up and regurgitate the buzzwords of the alt right gives pause for thought.
And considerable entertainment- so come on bootrock, its going to be a slow day, a bit of buzzword bingo will make it go by faster. ..
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
Do you think he could get rid of Jeremy?
> You know what, it wasn't abuse. It was simply a repetition of what he actually said and did. I'm sorry but Trump's victory is quite simply a fight back by white America. They are sick of being pushed around so they've chosen to be the latest civilised country to put all their trust in a fascist charlatan. How soon after inauguration will it be before Trump realises he has the power to make people disappear...?
Do you think he could get rid of Jeremy?
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In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:
The fact that a million more people voted for Clinton yet Trump was still elected amazes me.
As for the result not being accepted, was it not Trump who was claiming prior to the vote that he wouldn't accept a loss as it would therefore be evidence of it being rigged against him, as well as inciting militias and other gun nuts to start preparing to remove Clinton with firepower if she got into office?
The fact that a million more people voted for Clinton yet Trump was still elected amazes me.
As for the result not being accepted, was it not Trump who was claiming prior to the vote that he wouldn't accept a loss as it would therefore be evidence of it being rigged against him, as well as inciting militias and other gun nuts to start preparing to remove Clinton with firepower if she got into office?
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In reply to Bootrock:
University of alt right, fascist idiocy, if at all.
Over our lifetimes most of the uni graduates both on here and in the population overall will pay more taxes than those without a degree, even if you deduct the cost of our training. It is also only proper that uni graduates will do so, as we will also, again on average, have higher incomes.
No kindly f*ck off back under the rock you crawled out from, and take this jim character with you.
CB
University of alt right, fascist idiocy, if at all.
Over our lifetimes most of the uni graduates both on here and in the population overall will pay more taxes than those without a degree, even if you deduct the cost of our training. It is also only proper that uni graduates will do so, as we will also, again on average, have higher incomes.
No kindly f*ck off back under the rock you crawled out from, and take this jim character with you.
CB
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In reply to cb294:
Steady on, that's a bit harsh.
We love bootrock really- the forums would be a lot duller without him... and I've got a sneaking suspicion that some of what he posts is playing a part rather than from the heart...
Steady on, that's a bit harsh.
We love bootrock really- the forums would be a lot duller without him... and I've got a sneaking suspicion that some of what he posts is playing a part rather than from the heart...
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In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:
Not alt right, and not a fascist. Despite what you May think. Just because I don't believe in Marxism/socialism or globalism, doesn't make me a fascist.
And it's funny how you guys like to scream down anyone that disagrees with you, and want to control free speech, and thought doesn't that make you a fascist?
youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU&
Democracy is mob rule, which is why America is actually a constitutional, representative republic, not a democracy. A representative republic protects the minority from the majority.
The facist playbook? Let's take hitler, a socialist, sorry, a fascist, he managed to drum up hatred towards Jews, and use the mob to gain power and do incredibly nasty, disgusting things, with no representatives to protect them. Hitler believed in a NationalisedHealth Service, big government, gun control, state funded and sponsored education, police state (notice you lefties always demanded people arrested for comments and tweets), he created jobs through government. While at the same time, he criticized certain segments of the population, demeaning them, blaming the countries woes upon them. The rich, they just ruin everything. Sound familiar?
And wasn't the KKK founded to be the militant wing of the democrat party? Just somewhere along the line they swapped racial oppression for big government and governmental dependency.
So who's reading from the fascist playbook?
I think trumps a tit. But he was the lesser of two evils and to think Clinton was, is madness.
Trumps a tit. But as I have said for years, and have been right and predicted everything, Tories win, prison extremism epidemic, rise of global Islamic extremism, the brexit vote, the trump vote and the far right increase in mainland Europe, Austria voted its first right wing politician since ww2, although wasn't hitler a far left socialists wet dream?
You may laugh, but like I keep saying, you lefties have been hoist by your own petard. You created the conditions for the conservative clean up crew.
Shut it, lefty.
> More post truth nonsense from ukcs favourite ait right fascist fanboy
Not alt right, and not a fascist. Despite what you May think. Just because I don't believe in Marxism/socialism or globalism, doesn't make me a fascist.
And it's funny how you guys like to scream down anyone that disagrees with you, and want to control free speech, and thought doesn't that make you a fascist?
> Point to any US election Result where the electoral college delivered a democratic victory over a Republican win in the popular vote.
youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU&
Democracy is mob rule, which is why America is actually a constitutional, representative republic, not a democracy. A representative republic protects the minority from the majority.
> Note- not saying that trump voters are fascists tbemselves- but they have cast their vote for someone who says and does things that are lifted straight out of the fascist playbook.
The facist playbook? Let's take hitler, a socialist, sorry, a fascist, he managed to drum up hatred towards Jews, and use the mob to gain power and do incredibly nasty, disgusting things, with no representatives to protect them. Hitler believed in a NationalisedHealth Service, big government, gun control, state funded and sponsored education, police state (notice you lefties always demanded people arrested for comments and tweets), he created jobs through government. While at the same time, he criticized certain segments of the population, demeaning them, blaming the countries woes upon them. The rich, they just ruin everything. Sound familiar?
And wasn't the KKK founded to be the militant wing of the democrat party? Just somewhere along the line they swapped racial oppression for big government and governmental dependency.
So who's reading from the fascist playbook?
I think trumps a tit. But he was the lesser of two evils and to think Clinton was, is madness.
> As for ukcs trump buddies- I've no idea whether they'd be fascists given the opportunity, but the way they lap up and regurgitate the buzzwords of the alt right gives pause for thought.
Trumps a tit. But as I have said for years, and have been right and predicted everything, Tories win, prison extremism epidemic, rise of global Islamic extremism, the brexit vote, the trump vote and the far right increase in mainland Europe, Austria voted its first right wing politician since ww2, although wasn't hitler a far left socialists wet dream?
You may laugh, but like I keep saying, you lefties have been hoist by your own petard. You created the conditions for the conservative clean up crew.
> And considerable entertainment- so come on bootrock, its going to be a slow day, a bit of buzzword bingo will make it go by faster. ..
Shut it, lefty.
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In reply to cb294:
Aye, only the proper degrees. None is this basket weaving nonsense, history or psychology.
Why is it proper that graduates do? What does your fancy paper have that someone with a century of experience doesn't have?
I would take a guy with experience over some jumped up arsehole with a fancy bit of paper any day.
I would rather have the bloke that's been and seen the world for himself than the guy who's sat in his bedroom and written about it.
Your not a nice person are you. Are you student debts getting you down? Would you like a rum?
And as it happens, I have a BTEC in being a dick.
> University of alt right, fascist idiocy, if at all.
> Over our lifetimes most of the uni graduates both on here and in the population overall will pay more taxes than those without a degree, even if you deduct the cost of our training. It is also only proper that uni graduates will do so, as we will also, again on average, have higher incomes.
Aye, only the proper degrees. None is this basket weaving nonsense, history or psychology.
Why is it proper that graduates do? What does your fancy paper have that someone with a century of experience doesn't have?
I would take a guy with experience over some jumped up arsehole with a fancy bit of paper any day.
I would rather have the bloke that's been and seen the world for himself than the guy who's sat in his bedroom and written about it.
> No kindly f*ck off back under the rock you crawled out from, and take this jim character with you.
Your not a nice person are you. Are you student debts getting you down? Would you like a rum?
And as it happens, I have a BTEC in being a dick.
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In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:
Thanks for your kind words. Fancy a cup of tea with a dash of rum?
And to be fair you're kinda right. I like playing devils advocate.
Thanks for your kind words. Fancy a cup of tea with a dash of rum?
And to be fair you're kinda right. I like playing devils advocate.
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In reply to bootrock
That used to be the case, but I wouldn't be so sure nowadays. Graduates used to be higher earners because they were in perhaps the top 10% of the population academically, and filled the 'graduate jobs'. You now have another 30 to 40% of the population with degrees who aren't, to be frank, all that bright. The degree might help get an interview, but they'll be eclipsed in the workplace by more motivated non-grads who have an additional 3 to 5 years work experience under their belts.
> Over our lifetimes most of the uni graduates both on here and in the population overall will pay more taxes than those without a degree, even if you deduct the cost of our training. It is also only proper that uni graduates will do so, as we will also, again on average, have higher incomes.
That used to be the case, but I wouldn't be so sure nowadays. Graduates used to be higher earners because they were in perhaps the top 10% of the population academically, and filled the 'graduate jobs'. You now have another 30 to 40% of the population with degrees who aren't, to be frank, all that bright. The degree might help get an interview, but they'll be eclipsed in the workplace by more motivated non-grads who have an additional 3 to 5 years work experience under their belts.
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In reply to Bootrock:
Well, the holder of the paper would have another 65 years to live!
> What does your fancy paper have that someone with a century of experience doesn't have?
Well, the holder of the paper would have another 65 years to live!
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In reply to Oceanrower:
Hahaha! My bad. I was trying to navigate my way to the kitchen for some tea whilst typing. I have no idea why I chose Century! Decade more like it.
> Well, the holder of the paper would have another 65 years to live!
Hahaha! My bad. I was trying to navigate my way to the kitchen for some tea whilst typing. I have no idea why I chose Century! Decade more like it.
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In reply to Jim 1003:
What you call 'rubbish' appears to be reporting the facts.
> The trouble is you can't guarantee anything because you don't actually know anything about Trump or Clinton. Personally, I don't like either, but it appears the reason Trump won is because the Americans got fed up with the constant rubbish in the media about him, and then voted for him because he might try and make sure everybody has a job.
What you call 'rubbish' appears to be reporting the facts.
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In reply to Bootrock:
What do make of your special snowflake Trump now asking for "safe spaces" free from thoughts he doesn't like?
What do make of your special snowflake Trump now asking for "safe spaces" free from thoughts he doesn't like?
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In reply to Bootrock:
I don't like tea, but I'll take the rum...
Likewise. I'm not actually left wing at all...
> Thanks for your kind words. Fancy a cup of tea with a dash of rum?
I don't like tea, but I'll take the rum...
> And to be fair you're kinda right. I like playing devils advocate.
Likewise. I'm not actually left wing at all...
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In reply to cb294:
I can see you are a graduate from your mastery of the English language, very apparent in your post.
Have you left the UK as a protest against Jeremy?
I can't blame you.
> University of alt right, fascist idiocy, if at all.
> Over our lifetimes most of the uni graduates both on here and in the population overall will pay more taxes than those without a degree, even if you deduct the cost of our training. It is also only proper that uni graduates will do so, as we will also, again on average, have higher incomes.
> No kindly f*ck off back under the rock you crawled out from, and take this jim character with you.
> CB
I can see you are a graduate from your mastery of the English language, very apparent in your post.
Have you left the UK as a protest against Jeremy?
I can't blame you.
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In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:
You what mate?! Don't like tea? The British empire was built on tea! And gin I suppose....
Wait, is it offensive to like tea now? Something about imperialism and empires, privileges and social injustices and a dash of Race, for good measure?
> I don't like tea, but I'll take the rum...
You what mate?! Don't like tea? The British empire was built on tea! And gin I suppose....
Wait, is it offensive to like tea now? Something about imperialism and empires, privileges and social injustices and a dash of Race, for good measure?
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
He won't have though will he? Unless you're getting into conspiracy theory territory. He'll probably find he's a lot less able to get away with horrible shit than he's used to being.
One thing is clear though, especially if the Muslim registration thing goes through: a lot of right wing American bible-thumpers need to shut up about important 'religious freedom' is to them.
> How soon after inauguration will it be before Trump realises he has the power to make people disappear...?
He won't have though will he? Unless you're getting into conspiracy theory territory. He'll probably find he's a lot less able to get away with horrible shit than he's used to being.
One thing is clear though, especially if the Muslim registration thing goes through: a lot of right wing American bible-thumpers need to shut up about important 'religious freedom' is to them.
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In reply to deepsoup:
Hope on.
> He won't have though will he? Unless you're getting into conspiracy theory territory. He'll probably find he's a lot less able to get away with horrible shit than he's used to being.
Hope on.
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In reply to Pete Pozman:
I like both. Good god man, I am so confused!
> Hipsters like coffee; Empire Loyalists like tea. That's it in a nutshell.
I like both. Good god man, I am so confused!
In reply to deepsoup:
The bloke who wrote his 'autobiography' - the Art of the Deal - was none too sure about that and was seriously making plans to move abroad if he won.
It won't take much - a word in the ear of the boss of the IR could make life very difficult for a lot of people.
The bloke who wrote his 'autobiography' - the Art of the Deal - was none too sure about that and was seriously making plans to move abroad if he won.
It won't take much - a word in the ear of the boss of the IR could make life very difficult for a lot of people.
In reply to Bootrock:
I'd rather have someone who's done both, or at least has the perspicacity not to make stereotypical judgements of people from either background.
Level 1 pass.
> I would take a guy with experience over some jumped up arsehole with a fancy bit of paper any day.
> I would rather have the bloke that's been and seen the world for himself than the guy who's sat in his bedroom and written about it.
I'd rather have someone who's done both, or at least has the perspicacity not to make stereotypical judgements of people from either background.
> And as it happens, I have a BTEC in being a dick.
Level 1 pass.
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In reply to Bootrock:
That makes you a centrist liberal.
Mornington Crescent!
> I like both. Good god man, I am so confused!
That makes you a centrist liberal.
Mornington Crescent!
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