In reply to CENSORED and his dodgy cookies:
> MMMMmmmmm??
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> Who's telling the truth?
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> Any photos?
I don't doubt the claim. Once the sun hits the west-facing downfall at about 11 am, it starts to go; and fast. I climbed it yesterday (31.12.01)with Liz (it was about 3/4). A second party retreated, having waited too late. Early bird gets the worm!
If pics of conditions on 31 Dec 01 are required I'll send some; (photos curtesy of Alan O'Brian)