Outlook Crack* VS 4c

Rockfax Description
The thin crack in the left-hand side-wall of the gully has some good moves where you could do with knowing how to jam. Big cams can help and hinder. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit (2006): Top 500, Stanage Routes BMC Graded List, Stanage 100 VD - VS, Stanage for Crack Apprentices.

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keitht - 2nd - 27/Jun/15 with Dewi Turton

dewiturton - Lead - 27/Jun/15 with keitht

8 Replacement for Count's Crack due to Ousal birds. An adequate replacement, probably one of the harder leads of the day, it makes up for it's short stature with a testing jamming section. Not sure why it gets HS, it was harder than a lot of the VS's on the challenge (VS in my guide, hence why we chose it).
Andrew Abraham - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/15 with Paul Deane

DanChad - 2nd O/S - 30/May/15 with Chris Murray

Le Chevalier Mal Fet - Lead - 30/May/15 with Dan Chadfield

Jim Malo - 2nd β - 10/May/15 with Nick, Mark

morganator - Solo - 17/Apr/15 with Sophie Whyte

FlavioL1989 - Solo O/S - 06/Apr/15

Matt Harmon - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/14 with Carla

bullybones - 2nd - 18/Oct/14 with Neil

ashtond6 - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/14

ashtond6 - Lead - 31/Aug/14

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 18/May/14

Nick1812P - Solo O/S - 04/Apr/14

danm - Lead - 12/Mar/14 with Becky McGovern

Dan Arkle - 2014

In the rain. Started in approach shoes but had to go back down for rock shoes. A particularly miserable day at Stanage.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 24/Nov/13

Lovely jamming, though my hands beg to differ. Definitely VS.
alexm198 - Lead O/S - 10/Nov/13 with Jing Zhang, Tommy Ogden

fuzzysheep01 - 2nd dog - 01/Oct/13 with Harry Bowyer

egg-man - 2nd - 04/Sep/13 with John Pickles

Binder - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Rich H

SecretSquirrel - Lead - 30/Jun/13 with j-ro

Hazel led after JR had fallen off
Marq - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/13 with Hazel, James Rowe

Brown - Solo - 19/May/13 with Solo

hotfeet - Lead - 20/Apr/13 with Mark MacDonald

Tried to lead this but couldn't get the crux, backed off and let Alan lead but still struggled when I was second
Blue68 - 2nd RP - 20/Apr/13 with Alan Mountford

riff156 - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Jo Smith

Bry - 2nd β - 20/Apr/13 with Fran

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead rpt - 20/Apr/13 with Katya Sourkova

Fran S8 - Lead - 20/Apr/13

Katya - 2nd - 20/Apr/13 with Paul Phillips

Hexcentrics worked well as passive in crack
christiaanfhunt - Lead β - Mar/13 with Carl Worrall

AlanPedrick - 2013

A grade I've climbed before, but completely messed up how to jam. Very frustrating, just as i got the gist it was over!
Roonix - 2nd dog - 21/Oct/12

Packs a punch for it's short length. You really have to get both hands and both feet jammed in at one point.
Jimbo C - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/12 with Chris, Spiros

Hahahaah HS my bum VS any day of the week.
Diggler - 2nd - 06/Oct/12 with stemill

Good fun, but definitely not HS!
stemill - Lead dog - 06/Oct/12 with Mark

RichardMc - Lead - 08/Sep/12 with Dave Langmead

benny_m - Lead dog - 02/Sep/12 with Richard Hemes

will_benfold - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/12 with Tor Nockles, Cameron

The most dogged bit of doggy-style dogging that I've ever done. I probably just need more practice at crack climbing, but I found the top half much more difficult than I expected, especially when it turned into laybacking on footjams.
cameron_hall - Lead dog - 01/Sep/12 with Tor Nockles, Will Benfold

Too wide to jam, just laybacked the whole thing, not too bad but no way HS 4b!
mes32 - 2nd β - 01/Sep/12 with Wilki

JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/12 with Nick

rockman - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/12 with Tim Edwards

timcedwards - 2nd - 13/Jun/12 with Geoff Mee

Sam Simpson - Solo O/S - 10/Jun/12 with John Dolden, Tom Doldon

Dom Whillans - 2nd - 12/May/12 with a.crook

nameless_rob - 2nd - 21/Mar/12 with Graham

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

flyinfrenchy - TR O/S - 29/Oct/11

Rested 2se on the same cam. was damp so was hard to keep jams in. Definitely VS. The crack is too thin to get proper jams in for the first bit.
Paul1 - Lead - 29/Oct/11 with Nicole

Yanis Nayu - Lead dnf - 22/Sep/11 with Andy

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Sep/11

If slumping onto gear counts as falls . . . three or four rests on gear before summing up the courage to finish the upper half of the crack. This probably would've been easier if I hadn't just done Count's Buttress which had pretty much demolished me. Thoughtful placement of cams would have helped as well as the crack flared upwards towards the top and I placed my cam in the last good jam. Ran out the end quite a bit as well due to getting really tired.
MPSBunny - Lead dog - 29/Aug/11 with John Brannock

Mikael - Lead - 20/Aug/11

We both fell off.
Jim Malo - 2nd dog - 20/Aug/11 with Mikael

Jim Malo - Lead dnf - 20/Aug/11 with Mikael

Adam1973 - Lead rpt - 14/Aug/11 with stewart murray

tomthecoolperson - 2nd - 14/Jul/11 with Ben 250

ben_250 - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/11 with Tom

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jul/11

HS 4b!
daviesp2 - 2nd dog - 01/Jul/11 with Tom

Had little fall. Stopped clenching fist jam at 100% and out I popped. HS? No!
freemanTom - Lead dog - 01/Jul/11 with Paul Davies

kitkat78 - Lead rpt - 02/Jun/11 with Steve C, Graham P

nice jamming
al123 - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/11

stuc - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - 2nd dog - 16/Oct/10

A mini file, so not HS 4b..pretty good wee route
fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/10 with daveyw

bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/10 with Kim

geddicakes - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/10

Katya - 2nd - 04/Sep/10 with Ben Burns

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/10 with Paul Latham

Hidden - 2nd - 04/Sep/10

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - 25/Aug/10

A nightmare! I started leading this and backed off not feeling very secure with the jamming. I consider myself a solid VS leader and haven't backed off a VS in years. The crack then ate my cam! Grrrr
James Moyle - TR - 25/Jul/10

Mr. K - Lead dog - 24/Jul/10 with Kim Hudson

SteveM - Lead - 24/Jul/10 with Kat

kitkat78 - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/10 with SteveM

uuum jamming, nice
Graeme Hammond - Solo rpt - 23/May/10

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd dog - 17/Apr/10

whiting.jp - Lead - 17/Apr/10 with jamesca

colin milton - Lead dog - 13/Mar/10 with chris orme

Hidden - Dec/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/09

catblack - 2nd - 16/Oct/09 with Andy Barker

Dale and I decided to go back to Jamming school on this one and didn't layback it...we found it utterly nails and fell off! Great fun....we can't jam but we are learning (god know why we want to) , there's no other way really.
SGD - 04/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead - 23/Jul/09

daveclarke5 - 2nd - 12/Jul/09 with Andy

peggy_on_the_rocks - 2nd - 05/Jul/09 with Dan

theo.mooney - 2nd - Jul/09 with Mary Moloney

Hidden - Lead dog - 02/May/09

BorisVBlade - 2nd dog - 02/May/09 with Jonathan Phillips

cem - 2nd - 29/Mar/09 with Graham Dolman

VS, 4c, self-belay, Stanage Guidebook, no 9, p104
HansUDes - Solo O/S - 21/Mar/09

kermit_uk - Lead dog - 01/Mar/09 with Steve Woolass

drysori - Lead - 2009

drysori - Lead - 2009

drysori - Lead - 2009

drysori - Lead - 2009

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Dec/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Dec/08

Jim Slater - 2nd O/S - 22/Nov/08 with Alan Smith

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Nov/08

Hidden - TR - 28/Sep/08

Tez29 - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/08 with Mousey

Hidden - Lead rpt - 23/Aug/08

Shauna - 2nd O/S - 20/Aug/08 with Nigel Patching

Definitely fair at VS 4c. You just need to summon a bit of gumption and go for it up the crack. Oh, and being able to jam is pretty crucial :)
victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/08 with Annelies

Gareth Clendinning (UBMC) - Lead dog - 30/Jun/08 with Rose Williams

Rose Williams - 2nd - 30/Jun/08 with Gareth

pog100 - 2nd - 20/Jun/08 with Reaver2k

Nothing like a good jamming crack to shatter your ego. Struggled with this unfortunately even though I've been going pretty good lately! Moved up and hands into the crack quite easily, pretty much perfect hand jams, lockers. Then I came to realise there was nothing for my feet except the crack, wearing my excruciatingly painful Galileos! It was literally like sticking my naked feet into a grater, then twisting. Needless to say I became a wimp very quickly and started thugging my way up with my hands, not a good idea! The jams get wider and wider the higher up you get but are generally pretty ok. Unfortunately I kept sticking my feet in and not twisting enough because of the pain meaning they slipped down hurting even more and putting more weight on my arms. After the 3 metre crack, I ended up exhausted doing a shoulder jam whilst I caught my breath. I will be back with some sloppier shoes and a couple of pairs of socks soon! Well protected and a nice line, just short. VS 4c I would say.
Reaver2k - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/08 with Mike Saul (Dad)

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/08

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - Lead rpt - 27/Sep/07

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Aug/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/07

Cleanly seconded with lots of beta after falling out on lead. And having tried and failed in the past. Must. Jam. Harder!
Mutl3y - 2nd - 17/Jun/07 with Tony

Graeme Hammond - 2nd O/S - 10/Jun/07 with Alex Twist

Twisty - Lead dog - 10/Jun/07 with Graeme Hammond

Hidden - 2nd - Jun/07

craig matheson - Solo - Apr/07

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - Apr/07 with Floris

My first jamming ascent :) Easier if you know HOW to jam.
Katya - 2nd O/S - 03/Feb/07 with Iain

Hidden - 2007

mattwyles1 - Lead O/S - Oct/06

Nicos - Solo O/S - 30/Sep/06 with solo

Fell off the crux move into the big crack. New guide grade may well be fair at VS felt like I'd sandbagged myself!
Hamster - Lead dnf - 23/Sep/06 with Ian Thurgood

VS 4c in my guide. Easier if you can jam though.
adam carless - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/06 with Pali, Stefan

Expect you forearms to be twice their normal size by the time you finish. adam carless wrote: "Easier if you can jam..." ...bleeding knuckles if you can't.
slkulick - 2nd dog - 09/Sep/06 with Adam

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/06

ChrisBrooke - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/06 with Carole Baker, Elved Roberts

Couldn't get established in the crack
Nutkey - Lead dnf - Jul/05

Simon Cahill - Lead O/S - 20/May/05 with Jonathon Cahill

Tobias at Home - 2005

Hidden - 2005

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Jun/04

Cake - Lead - 12/Jun/04 with Matt

after failing on lead. At least VS 4c.
Simon Caldwell - TR O/S - 17/Apr/04 with Carmen

edmitchell - Lead O/S - 2004 with kai ren

Hidden - Lead - 03/Aug/03

Hidden - Solo O/S - 14/Jun/03

Hidden - Lead - May/02

Hidden - 2002

Hidden - Lead - 2002

Roget - Solo O/S - 23/Sep/01

Pete Nugent - 2nd - 13/May/01 with Julie Wheatley (CC), Rob Wheatley (CC)

Both Phil and I failed to lead this, I fell off once on top rope. Both of us were happily leading VS at the time. Only 4b if you've got huge fists?
Iain Thow - TR - 17/May/99 with Phil Goacher, Chris Bryant

babymoac - Lead - 10/Sep/90 with Wendy Lesley & Deek

Hidden - Solo - 08/Mar/90

Andy Say - Solo - 02/Jul/89

tapley - 22/Jun/88

BRUCESTRAC - 1988 with Chris Cracknell,Various

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 07/Apr/84 with Dave Whaley

Hidden - Solo - 29/Mar/78

Hidden - Solo - 29/Mar/78

mike bridges - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/77 with Neil Gregory

Hidden - TR - 11/Jul/65

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