UKC

14m.

Rockfax Description
Excellent climbing up the cracked face to a deeper vertical crack. Awkward moves gain a ledge then a right-trending scoop. From the large ledge above finish up the easy corner on the right. © Rockfax

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LakesWinter 29 Oct, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: The protection is fine if you place it well. This is also an easy VS - obvious moves and gear.
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βeta: The protection is fine if you place it well. This is also an easy VS - obvious moves and gear.
AndyClifford 16 Jun, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: Due to wear the protection is hard to place and dubious.
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βeta: Due to wear the protection is hard to place and dubious.
Andi_FJ 30 Sep, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Due to really polished footholds i found it pumpy for the grade, but a good sloperledge excercise
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βeta: Due to really polished footholds i found it pumpy for the grade, but a good sloperledge excercise
Mutl3y 27 Feb, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Graded Severe in the 1964 guide. No wonder I found it so easy.
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βeta: Graded Severe in the 1964 guide. No wonder I found it so easy.
Paul Tomo 6 Oct, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: This is a very nice route, it is a shame that it is so short, Paul Tomo
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βeta: This is a very nice route, it is a shame that it is so short, Paul Tomo
MNA123 25 Sep, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Nice easy VS, good gear, good holds, and just steep enough. Good route!
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βeta: Nice easy VS, good gear, good holds, and just steep enough. Good route!
smithaldo 23 Mar, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Murphy, you had seconded it before leading it, hence why you found it easy, deffo VS if you have no idea of the moves or gear.
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βeta: Murphy, you had seconded it before leading it, hence why you found it easy, deffo VS if you have no idea of the moves or gear.
Si dH 4 Aug, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Id say middling-low VS, good enough pro all the way and once 4c move, although can probably be pumpy if youre nervous or and take too long placing gear. Never vdiff, and harder than manc buttress :)
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βeta: Id say middling-low VS, good enough pro all the way and once 4c move, although can probably be pumpy if youre nervous or and take too long placing gear. Never vdiff, and harder than manc buttress :)
Mutl3y 29 Jul, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: In reply to steve davison: No offence taken but I think you're being a bit rude. I found this route - which I led - to be considerably easier than any other VS climbs that I have led (compare this with topsail or trapeze direct), and at least a dozen or more 'easier' graded climbs - including, but not limited to Tango Buttress, Wall End Holly Tree Crack, The Coign and Crack and Corner (all Stanage), and Route 3 at Burbage North, which is a VDiff 4a and my favourite Birchen undergraded route - Poop Deck Crack (VD). It is also, by the way, much easier than Manchester Buttress (HS) which, while I did fall off whilst seconding, was not winched up! On the over-rating, I sign up to a school of thought that gives 3 stars only to the best problems around and 2 for the best in the area. Heather Wall is none of these. I am happy to be in a minority of opinion but wouldn't try to insult those who disagree with me.
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βeta: In reply to steve davison: No offence taken but I think you're being a bit rude. I found this route - which I led - to be considerably easier than any other VS climbs that I have led (compare this with topsail or trapeze direct), and at least a dozen or more 'easier' graded climbs - including, but not limited to Tango Buttress, Wall End Holly Tree Crack, The Coign and Crack and Corner (all Stanage), and Route 3 at Burbage North, which is a VDiff 4a and my favourite Birchen undergraded route - Poop Deck Crack (VD). It is also, by the way, much easier than Manchester Buttress (HS) which, while I did fall off whilst seconding, was not winched up! On the over-rating, I sign up to a school of thought that gives 3 stars only to the best problems around and 2 for the best in the area. Heather Wall is none of these. I am happy to be in a minority of opinion but wouldn't try to insult those who disagree with me.
leon 28 Jul, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Anyone with range of experience of gritstone routes will know that this route is bang on at VS 4c. If you think that this is a poor vdiff route then you should try leading it instead of being winched up it on a top rope.
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βeta: Anyone with range of experience of gritstone routes will know that this route is bang on at VS 4c. If you think that this is a poor vdiff route then you should try leading it instead of being winched up it on a top rope.
Mutl3y 28 Jul, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Too short, overgraded and over rated. Easier than its Crack and Corner neighbour. V Diff maybe?
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βeta: Too short, overgraded and over rated. Easier than its Crack and Corner neighbour. V Diff maybe?
Jon Greengrass 25 Jul, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Avoid following the cracks and yard between the breaks all the holds are good.
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βeta: Avoid following the cracks and yard between the breaks all the holds are good.
Dan_S 20 Jul, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: First VS lead. Excellent route, good gear. Unfortunatly short though.
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βeta: First VS lead. Excellent route, good gear. Unfortunatly short though.
Simon Caldwell 7 Apr, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: Pretty sustained, I don't think my arms would have got me up it without a winter at the climbing wall :)
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βeta: Pretty sustained, I don't think my arms would have got me up it without a winter at the climbing wall :)
Monk 14 Oct, 2002 Show βeta
βeta: Shiny!
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βeta: Shiny!
bone 14 Sep, 2002 Show βeta
βeta: excellent for 1st VS lead. steep, great gear and quite reachy. shame its over so soon!
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βeta: excellent for 1st VS lead. steep, great gear and quite reachy. shame its over so soon!

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