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[Green Wall VS 4b Heather Buttress, 3 kb]10m. The crack in the wall just left of the narrow chimney has a tricky landing on a green ledge. Best avoided when at all damp. © ROCKFAX

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A route of 2 parts. First part up the flake crack is really excellent - 3 or 4 lovely steep moves on great holds. 3 stars for that part. The it all went very pear shaped indeed. After the traverse I could get one foot onto the ledge below the niche but simply no further. I assume I was doing it all wrong but any alternatives seemed no easier. So I fell out of the niche and slumped onto the dodgy looking wire at head height, which held just fine, and lowered off. Simon went up and was victorious through the use of additional cams and aid tactics. Would going straight up or even slightly left at the top of the crack and then traversing right much higher be a better idea ? But not keen to have another try. Minus 3 stars for the second part - a real shame.
Julian Lane - Lead dnf - 07/May/13 with Mynydd Simon Ramsay

giuly - 2nd - 20/Apr/13 with Neil Shephard, Chris Saunders

slacky - 2nd rpt - 20/Apr/13 with Giulia Forlati, Chris Saunders

pie_eater_pete - Solo O/S - 03/Mar/13 with bwestwood

RVCMC
londonoring - 2nd - 02/Mar/13

Paul Hy - 2nd O/S - 28/Feb/13 with Lewis M

johnself1603 - Lead β - 11/Aug/12

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 14/Jul/12

adam carless - Solo O/S - 28/May/12

Nigel Bond - Lead - 21/May/12 with Dave Dewhurst, Anne Daykin, Bern Hardman

Hidden - 2nd - 21/May/12

Hidden - 08/Jan/12

lewist1993 - 2nd - 08/Jan/12 with Scott dunkley

Hidden - 2012

akhughes - Solo O/S - 2012

Soaked through! Good fun in a suffering kind of way.
MarkRoe - Lead O/S - 09/Nov/11 with Ian Webster

Horrifically wet!! don't bother
iwebster59017 - 2nd - 09/Nov/11 with MarkRoe

joermann - Lead - 25/Oct/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/11

SteveJCox - 2nd O/S - 23/Oct/11 with Tom Cox

rocktigger - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/11 with Clare

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Oct/11

A tussle in the middle
Cake - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/11 with Matt

cleft88 - Lead - Oct/11 with Ozzy

Hidden - Lead - 29/Sep/11

Nice route
max_chan - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/11 with Pete PCC

al123 - Solo - 24/Aug/11

Hidden - Lead - 21/Aug/11

woody0606 - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/11 with David Woodhead

tomc - Lead O/S - Aug/11

beings - 31/Jul/11 with Gamba, Andy

Required the use of additional body parts (mostly my head).
Pike - TR dog - 31/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead dnf - 31/Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd dog - 31/Jul/11

claregardiner - Lead - 27/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Jun/11

bigbirdflying - Lead - 22/Jun/11 with Conor

hotfeet - Lead - 19/Jun/11 with Wayne

waynem1985 - 2nd - 19/Jun/11 with Antony Davies, Alan Mountford

Gambit - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/11 with Barney

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Jun/11

JamieSparkes - Sent O/S - 13/Jun/11 with solo

jw231 - Lead O/S - 28/May/11 with Alex Skew

ally1509 - 2nd dog - 28/May/11 with James Whitlock

Steve J P - 2nd - 02/May/11 with BW

Bernie Wylde - Lead - 02/May/11 with sp

Gerallt Owain - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/11 with Lowri Evans

phil.cheeseman - 2nd - 26/Apr/11 with Jonny Cox

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 26/Apr/11

rustaldo - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead dnf - 14/Apr/11

rikbattye - Solo O/S - 29/Mar/11

r_o_b_h2 - 2nd O/S - 28/Mar/11 with steve tree

James_D - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Will

Tamati - 2nd - 27/Mar/11

David Smith - 2011

Hidden - Dec/10

Tom Redmond - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/10 with high peak club

SteveM - Lead - 17/Sep/10 with Kat

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Sep/10

mattime18 - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/10

timofy - Lead dnf - 14/Sep/10

Ollie B - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/10

Had been led - 3rd up
dpmUK - TR O/S - 05/Sep/10

Mr. K - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/10 with John Lewis, Daniel Money

John Lewis - 2nd dog - 05/Sep/10 with Kyle

Could not get on to the ledge, especially being a short arse! Felt harder than 4b.
Leelogs - 2nd dog - 05/Sep/10 with SCC

Hidden - Lead dog - 05/Sep/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10

Dry thankfully but still much harder than 4b getting established on the ledge
erica - 2nd - 22/Aug/10 with John

John Brayshaw - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Erica

wrapped in bacon - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/10 with Rob

al123 - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10

jmjw - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/10 with Ben T

Moved left just before last senction.
marcduhig - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/10 with Andrew

Tricky for VS even when dry!
victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/10 with Cornish Merlin

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 17/Jun/10

Ky - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10 with Tim

slacky - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/10 with Nick Taylor

Marc Murphy - AltLd - Jun/10

Hidden - Lead - 23/May/10

No way 4b!!! 4c at a minimum and we did it when it was bone dry. Very awkward to section. Mike struggled leading it and I used a knee and an arse seconding and it still felt like the hardest of 8 routes today (which included an HVS 5c).
Steve Waters, Mynydd - 2nd - 23/May/10 with Mike Tempest

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/May/10

simeclimb68 - Lead O/S - 15/May/10

richyclimb - 2nd - 15/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/May/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Apr/10

gingergeorge - Lead - 24/Apr/10 with 15oth trg

Hidden - 2010

Ben Taggart-Ryan - Lead O/S - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Oct/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/09

Very awkward, move into the sloping niche worth 4c in my book.
rob wmc - Lead rpt - 27/Sep/09 with Alex WW & Alan

Mick Cassidy - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Jimbo

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Sep/09

popebenedictus - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/09 with Edd Rab

edd rab - 2nd O/S - 07/Sep/09 with Ben Harding

Craig McMahon - Lead O/S - 06/Sep/09 with Pete

tdudley - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/09 with Tom Page

Adam1973 - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/09 with stewart murray

crag_monster - Lead - Aug/09

Hidden - Solo - 10/Jul/09

James Oakes - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/09 with Bill Lawrence

Bill Lawrence - 2nd O/S - 01/Jul/09 with oaksi2

colkurtz - Lead - Jul/09 with Angie

Dave Rumney - 2nd - 28/Jun/09 with Sean Roberts

edpd1b - 2nd - Jun/09 with Kelly Hillyer

crag_monster - Lead - Jun/09 with murphydave

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/09

stevemcg - 2nd - 19/Apr/09 with Matt

First VS. Freaked out having fallen on a VS the day before, so was sat on the ledge half way up for some time!
Hardcore Howlett - Lead dog - 05/Apr/09 with James Lister

Hidden - Lead - 22/Mar/09

Wet!
mbtulett - AltLd dnf - 16/Nov/08 with Joe Price

Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Barra

tedburt - 2nd O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Josh Coombs

mel holmes - Lead - 10/Sep/08 with achatzs

Brown - Solo O/S - 08/Sep/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/08

Paulio79 - Lead - 26/Jul/08 with lauren/emma

LoopyLou - Lead O/S - Jul/08 with Helen Lear

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/08

Franco Cookson OLD - Solo O/S - 04/Jun/08

Jon Dittman - 2nd - Jun/08

Shad - 2nd - Jun/08

Shad - Lead - Jun/08

Hidden - Lead - May/08

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Apr/08

4th ever outdoor climb.
Liam Copley - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/08

alaan - Solo O/S - 30/Mar/08

mills85 - 2nd O/S - 17/Feb/08 with Scott

2RoyalAnglian - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/08 with mills85

Christian Led, danny seconded then I followed. I thought that Christian did well to lead this route.
mark2572 - 2nd O/S - 09/Feb/08 with Danny & Christian

This route had me doing an elvis while I gathered myself for the last move over a ledge.Seconding this made leading Heather wall seem easy.
dan1stdan - 2nd - 09/Feb/08 with Mark & Christian

nice climb,
chriswh84 - 2008 with danny and mark

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

TrollJester - AltLd O/S - 2008 with VARIOUS Throughout 80's+90's

Raggar - 2008 with Ian M, Jon B

Hidden - Solo O/S - 10/Oct/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 07/Oct/07

mitch - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/07 with Lucy Blake

Hidden - Solo - 05/Oct/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/07

toasted - 2nd - 26/Aug/07 with Ian Atkins

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Aug/07

First VS
frankcp87 - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/07 with marccb6

marccb6 - 2nd - 06/Jun/07 with Frank

Mutl3y - Lead - 05/Jun/07 with Clog

Clog - 2nd - 05/Jun/07 with Mutl3y

Jim Vach - Solo O/S - 11/May/07

JLS - 2nd O/S - 05/May/07 with Gavin R.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/May/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Apr/07

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Apr/07

Laurence Everitt - 2nd O/S - 10/Apr/07 with Rosie Henstock

Rosie Henstock - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/07 with Laurence

Hidden - 2nd - 04/Apr/07

craig matheson - Solo - Apr/07

peter myers - Lead - Apr/07 with Matt Eyre, Alex May

Hidden - 2007

PanzerHanzler - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/06 with Robert Butcher

Pythonist - Solo O/S - 13/Sep/06

Steady route enough cracks to place a full rack in if you wanted to...
loonyclimber - Lead O/S - 06/Aug/06 with Jen Green

Nick lead, I struggled.
apeman241 - 2nd dog - 23/Jul/06

charlie barnes - Lead - 16/Jul/06 with dan

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Jul/06

Seriously hard for 4b!! Harder than Grotto Wall?
JohnHutch - 2nd - 24/Jun/06 with SC

Si Croft - Lead - 24/Jun/06 with JH

PenJD - Lead O/S - 24/May/06 with Jules Littlefair

Nicos - Solo O/S - 26/Sep/05 with solo

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Aug/05

Phil West - Lead β - 06/Aug/05 with Chris Tan

Hidden - Lead - 21/Jun/05

loose85 - 2nd dog - 21/Jun/05

Stig - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/05 with Charlie Reade-Jahn

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/05

Hidden - Lead - 2005

Chris Davids - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/04 with Dad, Bethan

Finished up Capstone Chimney (D)
Phil West - Lead dnf - 17/Jul/04 with Shaun Walby

Hidden - Lead - 13/Jul/04

Mike Turner - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/04 with Alan Beaumont

ChrisJD - Lead - 08/Jun/04 with Clare

peter myers - Lead dnf - Jun/04 with Matt Eyre

Hidden - Solo O/S - 24/May/04

Matt Bill Platypus - Lead O/S - Apr/04 with Becs

Wil Treasure - 2004

Hidden - Lead - 2004

Guymer - 2004

JohnHutch - Lead - Sep/03

Hidden - Lead - 25/May/03

Conquered the Bugger!
mark4344 - Lead - 17/Mar/03 with Andy Philipson

rob wmc - 2nd O/S - Mar/03 with Mick

roverhead - 2nd - 28/Sep/02

Hidden - Lead - 04/Sep/02

Jon Greengrass - 2002

Jus - Solo - 2002

Hidden - TR O/S - 2002

Fell and broke back!
mark4344 - Lead - 18/Oct/01 with katie philipson

Hidden - Lead - 30/Jun/01

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2001

Heisenberg - Lead - 23/Sep/00 with mike sissons

Hidden - Solo O/S - Sep/00

Nick Smith - UKC - 2nd - Jun/00

Hidden - 2nd - 07/May/00

Hidden - 2000

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/99

Simon Pearce - 1999

CrashMat Rob - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/98 with Nicky

Iain Thow - Lead - 27/May/97 with Alex Doherty

JonBray - Lead O/S - 1997

Hidden - 1996

Rog Wilko - Lead - Jul/95 with Debbie Wilkinson

Hidden - Lead - 30/Apr/95

nai - 2nd - 1995

Chris Ellis - Lead rpt - 16/Aug/94 with Rachel Nicolson

stevieb - 2nd O/S - 07/Aug/94 with Kelvyn James

kato'sdad - Lead - Aug/94

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 07/Jul/94 with Rachel Nicolson

Roget - Solo O/S - 20/Jul/91

Hidden - Lead - 27/Sep/89

Hidden - Solo - 22/Apr/87

steve taylor - 1987

Hidden - Lead - 04/Jun/86

mike bridges - Lead O/S - 02/May/86 with Neil Gregory

Dave Musgrove - 02/Apr/86

Hidden - Lead - 1986

Ian Clare - 1985

Ian Clare - 1982

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1981

Andy Say - Solo - 06/Aug/79

rogerskews - 1972

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Total votes cast 135
hard HVS0 of 48
HVS0 of 48
easy HVS2 of 48
hard VS20 of 48
VS24 of 48
easy VS2 of 48
hard HS0 of 48
HS0 of 48
easy HS0 of 48
hard 4c0 of 48
4c1 of 48
easy 4c38 of 48
hard 4b6 of 48
4b3 of 48
easy 4b0 of 48
hard 4a0 of 48
4a0 of 48
easy 4a0 of 48
3 Stars0 of 39
2 Stars4 of 39
1 Star26 of 39
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Style of ascent

Soloed25 of 234 (10.7%)
Lead114 of 234 (48.7%)
Followed67 of 234 (28.6%)
Toproped3 of 234 (1.3%)
Bouldered1 of 234 (0.4%)
Alt Leads4 of 234 (1.7%)
Unknown20 of 234 (8.5%)

'Climbed'110 of 234 (47.0%)
clean O/S101 of 234 (43.2%)
clean β2 of 234 (0.9%)
clean rpt3 of 234 (1.3%)
dogged9 of 234 (3.8%)
dnf9 of 234 (3.8%)