Detour HVD
[John and Ken enjoying Detour, 2 kb]8m. Climb the groove on the far right to a rapid escape out left below the big capping overhang. © ROCKFAX
FA. Ron Townsend

Photo: John and Ken enjoying Detour © Andy Gee

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This climb is in 280 logbooks, and on 2 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Nov/14

Hidden - Solo O/S - 06/Nov/14

By head torch.
TobyA - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/14 with Jody

Jody - 2nd - 10/Oct/14 with TobyA

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/14

Hidden - Lead dog - 27/Sep/14

GregBristol - Lead - 25/Sep/14 with Andy Spacie

katyc - Lead - 24/Sep/14

mnf_nelson - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/14 with Alex Bryant

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo rpt - 27/Jul/14

Nigel Bond - Solo - 16/Jul/14

Mr Christian - Solo O/S - 01/Jul/14

hazeysunshine - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/14 with Thea

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 01/Jun/14

BenedictIEP - Lead O/S - 31/May/14 with Eleanor Jones

Leleanor93 - 2nd O/S - 31/May/14 with Benedict Powrie

vix - 2nd O/S - 31/May/14 with Lorna

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 05/May/14 with liv_the_div

Dave Musgrove - Solo - 04/May/14

Mike Soulby - Lead O/S - 03/May/14 with Scott Hill

scott.hill - 2nd O/S - 03/May/14 with Mike Soulby, Alisa

Ali Mortazavi - Lead O/S - 03/May/14 with Rita

Hidden - Solo - Apr/14

Hidden - Solo rpt - 30/Mar/14

David_Gledson - Solo O/S - 09/Mar/14

Jacob Forshaw - 2nd O/S - 25/Jan/14

Hidden - Solo O/S - 19/Jan/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/13

mariannekhoo - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/13 with Denise Morgan

LivinITlarge - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/13 with Dave Wheeler

abbotsmike - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/13 with Rob Hopes

MikeDowsett - 2nd - 03/Aug/13 with Ruth Gordon, Dave Bankart

Only a shame it isn't longer.
Snorfalorpagus - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/13 with James Mathews, Lindsey Robinson

Steve J P - 2nd - 03/Jul/13 with BW

Bernie Wylde - Lead - 03/Jul/13 with sp

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Jun/13

mr_drains - TR O/S - 09/Jun/13 with Gareth K

Hidden - 2nd β - 04/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/13

Chris Manasseh - 2nd - 02/Jun/13 with Nick Manasseh

matt.stevenson - Lead O/S - 07/May/13

the power - 2nd - 02/May/13 with ken

Hidden - Solo O/S - 26/Apr/13

I did the finish up the slab from the crack in the arete and thought it was easier than it looked. Quite a nice wee route overall, I thought quite high in the grade for Severe overall but nothing like 4c (see comments below)!
CurlyStevo - Lead - Apr/13 with Rob

davidalcock - 2013 with Diz

AlanPedrick - 2013

A minor gem...Traverse left at the top if you want to keep the grade.
Babika - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12 with Charles Leek, Kiwi Pete

Hidden - Lead - 14/Oct/12

Finished straight up from the crack in the arete, which seemed rather hard for the grade (S 4a in BMC guide) - closer to 4c if you avoid the leftb arete. Old guides describe the route as traversing further left before moving up easily, which might explain it.
Simon Caldwell - 2nd O/S - 29/Sep/12 with Carmen

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/12

John Brayshaw - 2nd O/S - 23/Sep/12 with Phil, Andy Hudson

Andy Hudson - 2nd - 23/Sep/12 with Phil Mercer, John brayshaw

Phil Mercer - Lead - 23/Sep/12 with Andy Hudson, John Brayshaw

DaveB61 - TR - 03/Aug/12 with Ruth Gordon, Mike Dowsett

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/12

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Jul/12

yarrow - Solo O/S - 17/Jun/12

alexjz - Lead O/S - 27/May/12 with Daniel James

tiga271 - Lead - 30/Apr/12 with Dave

cem - Solo O/S - 21/Apr/12

jvarmstrong - Lead - 21/Apr/12

charley - 2nd O/S - 31/Mar/12 with Kev

Tithe Technique - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/12 with Charley Fell

shouter - Lead - 15/Mar/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Mar/12

Neil Metcalfe101 - Lead - 10/Mar/12 with Andy Odger, Allan Mac

Hidden - Lead - 25/Jan/12

sgl - Solo O/S - 16/Jan/12

Pete Sanger - 2nd O/S - 15/Jan/12

much easier for me than Craig - definitely a short person route
pippa_g - 2nd O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Craig

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Sep/11

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 10/Sep/11

Finished direct over the overhang, rather than out to the left.
abbotsmike - Lead - 10/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 10/Sep/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Aug/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/11

Pete Randall - 2nd O/S - 28/Aug/11 with Richard B

Hidden - Lead - 25/Aug/11

johnl - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/11 with Adam Perrett

Adam Perrett - 2nd RP - 21/Aug/11 with John Leonard

tommytwotone - Solo - 24/Jul/11 with Mike

MeMeMe - Solo - 24/Jul/11

Hidden - TR dnf - 14/Jun/11

nrhardy - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Tim

stevetheleg - TR O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Hal Roberts

awesome route for HVD! kit himself would likely back off this route.
rustaldo - Solo O/S - 12/Jun/11 with Alex

alexanderbeetle - Lead - 23/May/11 with Theo Elliott

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/May/11

slacky - Solo O/S - 08/May/11

RichardMc - 2nd - 07/May/11 with Tony Williams

sylwia - Lead - 30/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/11

Short & sweet. Proper buzz coming out from the traverse to short a little slab:] Should have doubled my rope up.
jubolo - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11 with craig

ElvisLeg - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Charlie Burbridge

Hidden - Lead RP - 27/Mar/11

gavinpeach - Lead O/S - 12/Mar/11 with Liam Ward

szelest - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/11

Foolish to try doing this with someone going to third! Had to not allow the "thirder" to do this route due to swing factor-learnt a lesson there! Either don't do routes with swing factors like that, or have the weaker climber go up second but reclip the gear for the actual seconder to go up third. Good confident boost to lead, although wierd gear at the start considering the traverse bit being one of the harder bits. Again, easy set up. Great sling thread 2/3rds up.
samappears - Lead - 29/Jan/11 with Opal, Ross Forsyth

Lenny - 2nd - 23/Jan/11 with Paul

climbing_wiggy - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/11 with Leon

with dave smith mice little climb
philb - 2nd O/S - 20/Oct/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/10

Sam Simpson - Solo O/S - 08/Oct/10

cmars89 - Lead - 30/Aug/10

popebenedictus - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Ruth Harding

Powder Puff Girl - 2nd O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Ben H

Tala M - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10 with Simon Palmer

simeclimb68 - 2nd rpt - 15/Aug/10

Karlos - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10 with Chris and Penny

nice route the traverse is a little worrying but no real problem.
broady - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/10 with B Watkiss

JRigby - Lead - Aug/10

Ade7 - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/10 with Paul Twigg

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/10

JohnHutch - Lead - 23/Jun/10 with Rosie, G, L

David fell off and gear popped out, ouch, but not hurt at all amazingly. Found it really nice especially the traverse
Neil Rodgers (PCC) - 2nd O/S - 16/Jun/10 with David PCC

David fell off and gear popped out, ouch, but not hurt at all amazingly. Found it really nice especially the traverse
Neil Rodgers (PCC) - 2nd O/S - 16/Jun/10 with David PCC

MilesMcgennity - Solo O/S - 30/May/10

simon mitchie - Lead β - 25/May/10

Gerallt Owain - 2nd O/S - 17/May/10 with Steve Chapman

stevechaps1 - Lead - 17/May/10 with Gerallt Owain

mattorford - Lead - 07/May/10

checked novices gear and anchors before seconded.
LukeP LCC - 2nd - 28/Apr/10 with shkinitrep

shkinitrep - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/10 with luke preston

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/10

kickaha4 - Lead - 25/Apr/10 with Karl Rowe

theycallmefrodo - 2nd O/S - 24/Apr/10 with Craig Garfield

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/10

vanderz - Solo O/S - 06/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead rpt - 04/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/10

Hidden - 2nd dog - 13/Mar/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/Mar/10

williamsd79 - Lead O/S - 2010

Hidden - 2010

np134 - Lead O/S - 13/Dec/09 with N. Howett

cloneragan - Lead O/S - Dec/09

barrylong - Solo O/S - 28/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/09

tommytwotone - Solo - 20/Sep/09

tommytwotone - Solo rpt - 30/Aug/09

crazy pierre - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/09 with Rory Juss

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/09

sonic46 - 2nd O/S - 15/Aug/09 with Mike Kean, Stu & Matt

Danny Crump - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/09 with Michael Hyde

nice start awkward exit
maxkellock - TR O/S - 25/Jul/09

cayteye - Lead - 12/Jul/09 with Paul Highams

tradguy - 2nd O/S - 12/Jul/09 with katy dartford

hailtryfan - 2nd O/S - Jul/09 with Danny

Left Back - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/09 with Tim

Goody - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/09 with Billy Goodman

BGoodman - 2nd - 16/Jun/09 with Dave Goodman

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/09

Bex_M - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/09 with Ewan Buckingham

Awkward getting cam out from under overhang, finished on Diversion to increase difficulty.
valentinesbabe - 2nd O/S - 27/May/09 with Andy Smalley

williap - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/09 with FCP

maybe_si - Solo O/S - 22/Apr/09

James Moyle - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/09 with Hugh

Steerpike - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/09 with Huw

howlingbaboon - Lead rpt - 03/Apr/09

RichardMc - Lead - 03/Apr/09 with Tony Williams, Dave Langmead

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09

Hidden - 2nd - 2009

tallan9 - Solo - 2009

mattwyles1 - Solo - 2009

tommytwotone - Solo rpt - 07/Dec/08

Graeme Hammond - Solo O/S - 02/Oct/08

adam carless - Solo O/S - 28/Sep/08

SteveM - Solo - 14/Sep/08

JimBee - Lead O/S - Sep/08 with Matt Ellis

PanzerHanzler - 2nd O/S - 15/Aug/08 with KentDave

Pelleas - Lead - 15/Aug/08 with Martin

fizzy_elephant - Solo O/S - 13/Aug/08

Finished up perched slab of Meddle. Good Route!
howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - 06/Aug/08 with Page

Hidden - Lead - 04/Aug/08

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 04/Aug/08

Don Jebus - 2nd O/S - Aug/08 with sammyt

Hidden - Lead - Aug/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/08

great leading by john!! not a great climb to start with but soon heats up on the traverse!! very commiting and has a great undercut finish to it!!
2RoyalAnglian - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/08 with john

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/08

cannotfindaname - 2nd - 14/Jul/08 with andy smally

tommytwotone - Solo rpt - 14/Jun/08

Brown - Solo O/S - 10/Jun/08

RCrockford - Lead O/S - 18/May/08 with Mike A

Shauna - 2nd - 06/May/08 with tommytwotone

Finished off after partner bottled it on traverse left.
Dave Foster - Lead O/S - May/08 with Bryn

unpleasant
Al Urker - Lead dog - May/08

craig matheson - Solo - Apr/08

RichardMc - 10/Mar/08 with Tony Williams

Shauna - 2nd - 11/Feb/08 with tommytwotone

tommytwotone - Lead rpt - 11/Feb/08

loose85 - 2nd O/S - 10/Feb/08 with Matthew Burton

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Nov/07

minaturechris - Lead O/S - 04/Nov/07 with Barra

tommytwotone - Lead O/S - Oct/07

Shauna - 2nd - Oct/07

Nice traverse
krikoman - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/07 with 1_Heather Aston, Kev Gibbs

nick ferro - 11/Aug/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/07

Hidden - Solo O/S - 07/Aug/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/07

Timothy Greenhalgh - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/07 with casbaker

Timothy Greenhalgh - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/07 with casbaker

BallsofBritishSteel - Solo O/S - 01/Jun/07

Hidden - Solo rpt - 04/May/07

Matt Schwarz - 2nd - 25/Apr/07 with Phillip Johnson

Hidden - Lead - 25/Apr/07

ollie080488 - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/07 with Duncan Fergerson

Chris Ellis - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/07 with Steve Brown

Jim Vach - Solo O/S - 12/Apr/07

Rampikino - 2nd - 09/Apr/07 with MMC Various

SGD - 2nd - 02/Apr/07 with Dan Ashfield

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Apr/07

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - Apr/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Mar/07

HamishD - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/07 with weilin

Hidden - 2007

S 4a, not HVD.
Milne - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/06 with helen mead

Scally - Lead O/S - Sep/06 with Maggie

mr bounce - Lead O/S - Jul/06 with Shona

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Jun/06

victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 30/Apr/06 with Jaime

Nicos - Solo O/S - 02/Jan/06 with solo

Hidden - Lead - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Hidden - Lead - 20/Oct/05

Hidden - Solo - 27/Apr/05

mikeyjbs - Solo O/S - 24/Apr/05 with lachie, davina budd

Adam Potter - Solo O/S - 22/Apr/05

rob k - 2nd - 21/Apr/05

Hidden - Lead - Dec/04

Rampikino - Lead - 30/Aug/04 with Liz Hay

Pelleas - 2nd - Aug/04 with Martin

Laramadness - Solo O/S - 05/Feb/04

Hidden - 2004

John Eley - Lead O/S - Feb/03

Hidden - Solo O/S - 28/May/02

DerwentDiluted - Lead - 30/Sep/00 with Laurie Smith

Hidden - Lead - May/00

Budge - Solo - 14/Oct/98

bigphil - Solo RP - 11/Apr/98

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 1997

Hidden - 1997

Hidden - 1997

icescrew - Lead - 12/Jun/96 with Mark Watson

Chris the Tall - Solo O/S - Jul/93

Roget - Solo O/S - 12/Oct/92

Rog Wilko - 2nd - Jun/92 with Debbie Wilkinson

Hidden - Sep/90

Hidden - Solo - 23/May/90

Hidden - Solo - 18/Nov/88

tapley - Solo - 21/Sep/88

goi.ashmore - Solo O/S - 28/Sep/87

Iain Thow - Solo - 02/Aug/87

steve prior - Solo - Jul/86

pebblespanker - Solo O/S - Aug/85

soloed down
stp - Solo O/S - 25/Jun/85

John Marsland - Solo - 09/Jun/84

Bob - Solo - Jun/84

Anton Eady - 1983

mark-abz - Solo - 19/Sep/82

Nigel Bond - Solo - 07/Sep/80

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1980

Andy Say - Lead - 1979

Andy Fielding - Solo - 1978

MikeDowsett - Lead - 1978

Hidden - Solo - 27/Dec/77

Mark Kemball - Solo - 29/May/76 with Ian Grace

David Smith - 1974

mikej - Solo - 04/Mar/73 with Geoff Williams

mikej - Solo - 19/Mar/72 with E

mikej - Solo - 26/Apr/70 with E

mikej - Solo - 25/Jan/70 with E

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easy S23 of 35
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easy HVD0 of 35
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VD0 of 35
easy VD0 of 35
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