Now or Never** E1 5b
[Now or never n Sentinel, 2 kb]12m.

Rockfax Description
Layback the curving black flake and swing around the corner to a ledge. The delicate upper arete is a worrying contrast. The lower arete can be climbed on the right to give a tough direct start, Too Good to be Forgotten, f6A. © ROCKFAX

FA. John Allen 1971

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit (2006): Top 500, Pete's 150 Peak Extremes.

Photo: Now or never n Sentinel © Peakology
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Felix la shat - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/15

I fell off. Ed fell off and dogged it. I fell off in second and dogged it. Top end E1.
Sam Husband - Lead dnf - 27/Sep/15 with Ed

Stroppy - Lead dog - 27/Sep/15 with Sam Husband

Athletic/strenuous start, then off-balance/strenuous to get onto arete, easy finish. Excellent challenge
buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - 22/Sep/15 with Marcin Gobczynski

Couldn't commit to crux rockover, to get established on the slab, on lead. Did it first attempt on second.
cragsman9000 - 2nd RP - 02/Aug/15 with Neil

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/15

DanChad - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/15 with Chris Murray

Hannes B - Solo β - 23/Jul/15

CharlieMack - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/15 with Joe Salter

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jul/15

A Jackson - Lead O/S - 19/Jul/15

Fraser hill-casey - Lead G/U - 11/Jul/15 with Lewis neve

Hidden - Lead β - 04/Jul/15

After escaping into the gully previously manned up this time.
kermit_uk - Lead G/U - 21/Jun/15 with Phil Parkin, Michelle

Michelle_250 - 2nd - 21/Jun/15 with Phil, kermit_uk

morganator - 2nd - 19/Jun/15 with Dave Hollinger, Stan Halstead

Louishmouis - Solo O/S - 05/Jun/15

marconi - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/15 with Chris

Lukem6 - Lead O/S - 24/May/15

Tom Redmond - Lead O/S - 21/May/15 with kelly campbell

Sam McCarthy - 2nd RP - 20/May/15 with Tom Bennell

ralphio - Lead O/S - 17/May/15 with Martin

Had a mare on this a year or so ago, glad to get it done today
dom94 - Lead G/U - 13/May/15 with Nick Priestley

vinni - Lead O/S - 10/May/15

Climbed flake and on to ledge ok but then couldn't commit to top slab, escaped off to the right. Pretty disappointed. One to go back for when I've got more routes done this year and my head's in the right place.
PenJD - Lead dnf - 04/May/15 with Rachel Briggs

Hidden - TR rpt - 26/Apr/15

More precarious than I remembered.
cem - Lead rpt - 23/Apr/15 with Peter Debbage

Backed off the balancy moves to gain the upper arÍte on lead and let Gavin take over. Done the moves seconding using a small pebble to stop the barn door, felt hard!
Neal Jobling - 2nd - 09/Apr/15 with Gavin Singleton

With Beth's cams in the first flake. Great varied route with some really weird off balance moves.
JimboWizbo - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/15 with Beth

Hidden - 2nd dog - 06/Apr/15

Hidden - Lead dnf - 06/Apr/15

Albachoss - 2nd β - 04/Apr/15

Felt great to top out
jack01 - Lead G/U - 02/Apr/15 with charley

charley - 2nd rpt - 02/Apr/15 with Jack

TonyF - 2nd - Apr/15 with John Shields, Paul Threthewey

Lukem6 - Lead dnf - 22/Mar/15 with sam w

robgixer - Lead - 2015

Stefan_Morris - Lead O/S - 06/Dec/14 with Laura G

WillDoyle - Solo O/S - 04/Nov/14

bencoope - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/14

Topped out the climb on Andy's gear that he placed in the final break after Andy backed off. The bottom crack and swing out onto the face seem OK, but not very graceful. The top moves require a bit of balance but with a side pull for the right hand and a high left foot, the arete becomes a little more balanced. Then once established the top out is fine.
pc1983 - Lead dog - 12/Oct/14

HaleAlex - 2nd β - 12/Oct/14

Stroppy - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/14 with Roger Kirke, Sky Lee Si Kai

Stroppy - 2nd rpt - 05/Oct/14 with Liam

RKirke - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/14 with Freshers

Took a while to find how to approach the second section. It's delicate and committing. Tricky but nice moves
lday - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/14

Matt Shepherd - Lead RP - 02/Oct/14

Took a fall on the hand traverse and hit the deck. Got it clean second go though.
mop449 - 2nd RP - 28/Sep/14 with Sam Carr

kyaizawa - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/14 with Emma Reynolds

Emma Reynolds - 2nd O/S - 31/Aug/14 with Ky Aizawa

mark12345 - Lead - 30/Aug/14 with julian

georgenvk - Lead dnf - 17/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead β - 09/Aug/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/Jul/14

Hard & a bit scary but lovely route even with the minor epic. Was expecting the first half to be tricky & was worried I would pump out so didn't bother extending the gear (stupid mistake), found the moves straight forward and pulled around onto the ledge easily but then had a stupid amount of drag (single rope as well). Thought that's all I needed when pushing my grade and then the weather turned as well and it got bloody windy really quickly. Spent awhile (AGGESSS) going up and down, trying to work out the crux & trying to avoid the barn-door. Even getting the cam in was tricky, the wind really didn't help. Couldn't even cheat with height on this one. Came close to escaping off right and got angry with both myself & the route however did it in the end. Was very balancy & tenuous but excellent. Felt closer to 5c the way I did it but could of been the conditions? Really pleased to have stuck with it but didn't appreciate the added spice of the drag and wind.
charley - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/14 with JackD

shouter - TR - 19/Jun/14

kenneM - Lead - 14/Jun/14 with Henry Crosby

Theeni - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/14 with Mike Kennedy

Never feels not scary!
simon1965 - Lead rpt - 31/May/14 with Scot slim boy

Hidden - Lead dnf - 31/May/14

managed to get the final cam in but could not work out crux onto arete! felt very unbalanced. frustrating.
dean79 - Lead dnf - 23/Mar/14 with Marc Lloyd

Top rope solo, only just made the move round onto the ledge everything I grabbed was green and damp!
robblowen - Solo O/S - 19/Feb/14

Led through Jack's gear. Felt bloody hard for E1. Did the arete with use of heels and pebbles, necky!
spidermonkey09 - Lead β - 19/Jan/14 with Jack Knight

john lynch - 2nd - 19/Jan/14 with ed luke

Fell off twice on the lead stepping up off the ledge before giving up, Jim led through my gear.
Jack93 - 2nd RP - 19/Jan/14 with Jim Hulbert

brownie mike - Lead - 2014

Lead DNF. Pete sportingly states I backed off. I fell off. Multiple times, gear placements are good :-), the arete felt tricky and off balance, not my forte.
andyman666999 - Lead dnf - 2014 with Pete college

curlycarl - Lead β - 10/Nov/13

Took a while to work out how to get established on the lay-back arete.
JasonK - Lead - 06/Oct/13 with Euan Boyd

justinboynton - TR dog - 06/Oct/13 with Paul

Side runner out right
Calum Wadsworth - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/13 with micki

amccann - Lead dog - 05/Oct/13

MSchobitz - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Calum Wadsworth

1st grit E1; no soft touch!
Gabe Oliver - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/13

Shaun escaped right. Difficult arete..
robaj - 2nd dog - 16/Aug/13

Hidden - Solo - 12/Aug/13

dr_botnik - 2nd O/S - 28/Jul/13 with deacon

Possibly seconded this previously but not sure, it seemed a little familiar.
deacondeacon - Lead - 28/Jul/13

Pleased to lead this clean on a VERY hot day, having failed to get it clean a year or so ago. Tricky crux takes a bit of working out.
climberchristy - Lead rpt - 07/Jul/13 with Keith Swainson

Hidden - 2nd dog - 05/Jul/13

Hardcore Pat - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/13 with CJ Carter

Bowzle - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/13

Spent a long time trying to gain the upper arete but couldn't work out the tricky move up and took a short, silly fall. As soon as I got back on, I cracked the move and topped out! bugger. Good but hard climb.
mrteale - Lead dog - 29/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 29/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead dnf - 25/Jun/13

philboy - 2nd - 31/May/13 with owen the cake

I couldn't figure out the barn-door lay back, but eventually managed a tenuous rock-over using a good pocket low on the right, stretching to a hold on the left with a bit of jabbering. Excellent route though. Hard E1, perhaps 5c the way I did it.
Cake - Lead O/S - 31/May/13 with Phil B

Sam Simpson - 2nd O/S - 22/May/13 with Sam Stephenson

Haydn Jones - 2nd O/S - 22/May/13 with the captain

tomthecoolperson - 2nd - 08/May/13 with Andrew

angie - 2nd - 03/May/13

Paul Eckton - Lead O/S - 03/May/13 with steve read

leglesslizard - Lead RP - May/13

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Apr/13

will_benfold - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Aileen

danny33 - Lead - Mar/13

Kyle Rance - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/13 with Ollie Hoffman

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Feb/13

First half of the climb was very fluid and straight forward. Fell off the 'barn door' people have mentioned TWICE! Third time went well. I suggest others don't do the same - it hurts!!!
wrapped in bacon - Lead RP - 13/Nov/12 with Daryl

Hidden - Lead - 10/Nov/12

Daniel Heath - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/12

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 03/Nov/12

hard hard hard! biggest barn door ever took a fall ended up about 3 ft off the ground! Surely 5c????
ashtond6 - Lead dog - 21/Oct/12

Quite hard, a cheeky solo. Awkward and committing moves. Watch out for the barn door!
Ewano - Solo O/S - 14/Oct/12

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Sep/12

hotfeet - 2nd - 26/Aug/12 with Iain Gray

oodie72 - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Alan Mountford

waynem1985 - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Bob Stones

Rampikino - Lead - 22/Jul/12 with Cat

Finished up the chimney on the right. Bottled it from ledge. Next time be braver!
kermit_uk - Lead dnf - 24/Jun/12 with Jen Dearden, Billy Gwinnutt

a little puzzling
thetradlad - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/12 with Harry Yarrow

yarrow - 2nd dog - 24/Jun/12 with Jake Lodge

oliver.ghill91 - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/12 with Zardoz

lcullum7 - 2nd - 17/Jun/12 with Jordan Phethean

Amy Kilpin - 2nd - 04/Jun/12

Couldn't get round the corner! Tough move for me.
JenDear - 2nd dog - Jun/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/May/12

Lead on Steve's gear, he won the coin toss! V. complicated moves on the upper arete.
Oliver Houston - Lead β - 21/May/12

mbradberry2008 - Lead dnf - 12/May/12 with Alex French

jwpil - Lead O/S - 09/May/12 with Deacon

Harder than it looks. I took my first Trad fall on this, proceeded to top rope and complete it. looking forward to coming back and trying this again!
Fraser hill-casey - Lead dnf - 05/May/12 with AndrewJamesCherry

gingerwolf - 2nd rpt - 05/May/12

hamishjoe - TR - 05/May/12

lead on chris' terrible gear after he backed off it. sketchy off balance move, numb fingers. harder thna LTS by some margin.
benkelsey - Lead β - 16/Apr/12

Bloody hell. Bottled soloing this a few months back and I'm glad I did. Could not get established on the upper arete to save my life! Had to scurry up the grotty corner. It's a never...'till next time.
Dave 88 - Lead dnf - 14/Apr/12 with Kemics

Fell off the first move. Got the crux clean but had to really yard on a crimp. Would be an unpleasant lead.
Kemics - 2nd dog - 14/Apr/12 with Dave 88

chrisbussell - 2nd - 27/Mar/12 with Tim O'Neill

Michael Aylen - 2nd dog - 23/Mar/12 with SI

Matt Cooke - 2nd dog - 17/Mar/12 with Rosh

edmitchell - Lead dog - 10/Mar/12 with adam booth

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Mar/12

Adam Booth - 2nd O/S - 10/Mar/12 with David Rose, Ed Mitchell

Nick Russell - Lead O/S - 25/Feb/12 with Steve Shenton

SJS - 2nd - 25/Feb/12 with Nick

That didn't go very well, much harder and less obvious than I thought, but mainly illustrates the folly of getting straight on an E1 after six months of no grit climbing...
mattgrange - Lead dnf - 19/Feb/12 with maffujones

sid_himself - 2012

big djw - 2nd - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - Solo - 2012

Nick Sillem - Lead O/S - 2012

admackie - 2012

mbradberry2008 - Lead dnf - 30/Oct/11 with Tom Jagger

Richard P Coates - 2nd dog - 28/Oct/11 with ianjfsutcliffe

ianjfsutcliffe - Lead dog - 28/Oct/11 with Coatesy

AielSavage - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/11

Got up to the ledge fine but found the next move onto the arete really hard and awkward! Went up and down a few times until i whipped off!
joe.91 - Lead dnf - 20/Oct/11 with Olli Crudge

Olli-C - Lead dnf - 20/Oct/11 with Joe Dobson

Dibdawg - Lead dnf - 16/Oct/11 with Jeph Stewart

pie_eater_pete - Solo rpt - 14/Oct/11

nepsoi999 - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/11 with nadeem

nadeem - 2nd - 01/Oct/11

barni - 29/Sep/11 with Ami

I think phased at the grade-a first for me, resulting in fear induced tunnel vision and my first big wipper! Quality climbing
jack89 - Lead dnf - 15/Sep/11 with Mark20

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/11

pmurdy - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/11 with john gallant

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/11

tmawer - 2nd O/S - 13/Aug/11 with Jaime Robertson

Nice first half up the flake, crux is very unbalanced, slipped a little but got there. Lead by Steve
Neil Rodgers (PCC) - 2nd dog - 04/Aug/11 with Steve Carty, Marilyn

MeMeMe - Lead - 31/Jul/11

Goose4 - Lead β - 24/Jul/11 with Jamie Townsend

drysori - Lead - 09/Jul/11 with Andy Gray

JamieSparkes - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/11 with Nick

Nick1812P - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/11 with Jamie

Alex.M-M. - Lead RP - 21/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd β - 06/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/May/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/May/11

Hidden - Lead - 08/May/11

AndyFunnell - 2nd - 02/May/11 with Duncan Bell

great route, loads of variety in a short space - layback, jam, haul, mantle, smear, rockover, arete. Top sequence seemed fine once I'd finished faffing with the gear.
adam carless - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/11 with AdrianS

the thuggy bottom section followed by the biggest barn dooring sensation in the world. loved it and terrified me at the same time
stvredmond - Lead - 25/Apr/11 with Helen Norris

Chris M - Lead - 25/Apr/11 with Graham R

Helnorris - 2nd - 25/Apr/11 with Steve Redmond

First climbing day of the year and set my sights a bit too high. Struggled getting established in the upper face. Next time!
Rob Laird - Lead dnf - 24/Apr/11

chrisbrown_023 - 2nd dog - 23/Apr/11 with Rob Mullett

flashpanther - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/11

Hidden - TR O/S - 09/Apr/11

gavster2405 - TR - 09/Apr/11 with Richard Apthorp

Mr Sparkle - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/11 with Benjamin Burns

Skell - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11 with Jules

Brilliant route, quiet a move off the ledge tho but a classic tick... worth more than 1 star..
gazfellows - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead dnf - 12/Mar/11

sam corbett - 23/Jan/11 with Alistair Corbett

bigdrew - Lead O/S - 20/Jan/11 with James

Goodstuff - 2nd - 20/Jan/11

sam corbett - Lead O/S - 2011 with Alistair Corbett

jfane - Lead O/S - 2011

mwatson - 2011

DeanD - 2011

DeanD - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011

mark20 - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/10

gingerwolf - 2nd O/S - 07/Nov/10

Ffej - TR dnf - 06/Nov/10

Top-roped as my cams didn't fit. I should have gone for it on the wnadering cam but it never feels like that at a time.
98%monkey - TR rpt - 06/Nov/10 with Jeff

sasmojo - Lead - 30/Oct/10 with Richard A

Hidden - Solo O/S - 30/Oct/10

cliffrad - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/10

Well, sort of. Horribly dogged and finished up nextdoor HVD due to darkness.
Harri777 - 2nd - 24/Oct/10 with Liz

Interesting! First bit harder than it looks - fell off a bit. Got it after, but by then a bit dark so ran away up the chimney - green and slimy :) Much muttering from second but cheered up for the last bit :)
Dizz - Lead dnf - 24/Oct/10 with Harri777

ffdalton - Lead dog - 17/Oct/10 with Dean Dalton

kevp - Lead - 13/Oct/10 with Martyn Court

JonBrown - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/10

katiep - TR dog - 10/Oct/10 with Jon Brown

riddle - 2nd O/S - 10/Oct/10 with Mike Stephenson, Tom Elliot

dswansonlow - 2nd O/S - 10/Oct/10 with John Brown

searla - 2nd O/S - 10/Oct/10

Gazleah - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/10 with paul jones, tom ireson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/10

galpinos - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/10 with Mark

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/10

melonmike - 2nd O/S - 02/Oct/10 with Jack Metcalfe

Hidden - Lead dnf - 22/Sep/10

FlorianCastagne - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/10 with Guillaume Lion

metal arms - Lead - 07/Aug/10

pie_eater_pete - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/10

davewsargent - 2nd - 31/Jul/10

brown trouser moments on the upper half. pebble pulling and blind foot placements, ahhhhhhh. found harder than setinal
peaches69 - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/10 with sarah

surprisingly awkward
roberto18 - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/10 with Dad (Mike Bridges)

tricky to stop yourself barndooring to get established on the top arete.Done after both of us passed our SPA awards.
mike bridges - 2nd O/S - 25/Jul/10 with Robert Bridges

Hidden - Lead dnf - 22/Jun/10

gordonday - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10 with clive

tomthecoolperson - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/10 with Ben 250, Andrew

ben_250 - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/10 with Andrew, Tom

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/10

Led on site 1994 approx.
jshields - 2nd - 02/Jun/10 with Paul Tretheway, Tony Fidler

coombsy - Lead O/S - Jun/10 with Danny C

Mato's second day on Grit; had a go myself seconding it, pumpy bottom, scary top
najki_2000 - 2nd O/S - 31/May/10 with Chris Rose

The arete was a real puzzle and the climb name summed up how I felt.
nigel pearson - Lead O/S - 30/May/10 with Yoko

Fell off the first transfer from crack to ledge (wasn't thinking) did the balancey slab but it felt hard for 5b!
odox - 2nd rpt - 15/May/10 with Tom Pitchforth

Should have lead it, super commiting crux move, powerful on a delicate hold.
Oliver Branagan - 2nd O/S - 15/May/10 with Mikey B

Felt hard for 5b, maybe 5C? Found the move up the arete v committing and didn't have the right sized cam to protect it! Lovely route.
tom144807 - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with Ian Birtwistle

tom144807 - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with Ian Birtwistle

After bottling it on the lead. Got to the ledge but couldn't leave it!
RobSimmo - TR rpt - 09/May/10 with Will Slater

Chris_barr - 2nd O/S - 05/May/10 with Jim

Balancy, wish I had my own rack that day as I was a bit short on bomber protection with what I had. I got worried when I had to use a couple of small pebbles for balance, definately a easier way than that!
Jonathan Hall - Lead - 05/May/10 with Sam Stringer

tricky balancey moves off ledge. Would i "throw" on lead?
psychomansam - 2nd - 05/May/10

tinyali - TR dog - 05/May/10 with Sam Stringer, Johnny

geddicakes - Lead - 24/Apr/10 with Fraser

spent about 15 mins standing on the ledge working out how to do it. Lovely thoughtful balancy grit action.
jamiev - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/10 with Sean Lynch

robin_hackney - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/10 with Paul Hackney

mark20 - Lead dnf - 17/Apr/10

Fergus Cuthill - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10

cem - 2nd rpt - 11/Apr/10 with Paul Bolton

theotherpetehill - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/10

Powerful moves to the ledge and interesting moves to leave it. I found a good non-precarious method as I didn't fancy barn-dooring with no rope. Felt about 5b that way.
Andrew Barker - Solo O/S - 09/Apr/10

Ketu - 2nd O/S - 08/Apr/10 with Graeme H

felt hard (and harder than the sentinel), 5c or was it the heat, the lack of a warm up, crap technique and after work?? never mind after a couple of moments dithering getting the not so great cam in and working out what to do I got up it.
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/10 with Rob

willoates - Solo O/S - 14/Mar/10

ciaran1999 - Lead rpt - 07/Mar/10 with tom kelly

single hard reachy move
Ali.B - Lead dnf - Mar/10

ross hold - Lead O/S - 2010

williamsd79 - Lead O/S - 2010

stephenhartley - 2nd - 2010

DeanD - Lead - 2010

james999 - 2nd - 2010

Hidden - Solo O/S - 2010

garywong - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/09 with Mark Shale

Mark Shale - 2nd dog - 31/Oct/09 with Gary

Great climb. Crafty footwork/moves will avoid barn door and open up an easy finish up the arete. Bold and committing, a route with a personality and wink. A nice route to end the year.
LoopyLou - Lead O/S - 30/Oct/09 with Helen Lear

Fell off the arete towards the top which was a bit annoying as I had done the crux. I thought this was harder technically than Sentinel, although I was only seconding.
Byronius Maximus - 2nd dog - 25/Oct/09 with Remus Knowles

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09

Hard for the grade.Swinging onto the arete is the hardest move, Si used the arete, I made the most of the tiny pebbles on the slab.Great route!!!
Trefo - 2nd O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Si Litchfield

r@bag - 2nd O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Dan Wicks

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/09

Bloody hard move from the ledge!!5c!!
Jim Slater - 2nd O/S - 24/Sep/09 with Trevor Wilson

Em66 - 2nd O/S - 19/Sep/09 with Mat

Hidden - TR dnf - 17/Sep/09

Ollie B - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/09 with T Nichols

Struggled on the move from the ledge to the top, fell off once.
GeorgeArmstrong - Lead dnf - 14/Jun/09 with Rob Harrison

Hidden - Lead dnf - Jun/09

Hidden - 2nd - 12/May/09

jibberingwreck - 03/May/09 with mustgetstronger

Both seconded this route as a tricky finish. to lead next time.
themax16 - 2nd O/S - May/09 with Tom Makin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/09

Steerpike - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/09 with Tommo

ewen - Solo O/S - 13/Apr/09 with clare-dev

ewen - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09 with clare-dev

tommytwotone - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/09 with Nigel

My first E1, a good struggle on the first section. Needed to calm down and get my head together for the commiting final section.
krikoman - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Kev Gibbs

Hidden - Lead rpt - 04/Apr/09

Fell off this on lead a qhile ago. Flashed it seconding today, only just though! Definitely 5c and hard for it.
Si dH - 2nd RP - 04/Apr/09 with Neil Furniss

Hidden - 21/Mar/09

Diggler - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09 with jonah

Harry Thorpe - 2nd O/S - 11/Mar/09 with Phil

Very tricky upper crux, nice when you do it but I climbed up and down before committing loads of times!
thomasadixon - Lead rpt - 01/Mar/09 with andy

sdht - 2009

Never. well maybe another day. spent 20mins standing on my mates shoulders trying to get a cam out, that hard walked into the crack
Domin - 2nd dnf - 2009

Dunx - Lead rpt - 07/Dec/08 with Adam

Hidden - Lead - Dec/08

feilx - Solo O/S - 19/Oct/08

Hidden - 2nd - Oct/08

tlr - Lead - 27/Sep/08 with Pom

I didn't find the move right from the flake to bad, but that could be different on lead. I made a mess of the crux though when I actually sussed out the move it wasn't that bad. Good lead by Tim though
andrew300169 - 2nd dog - 27/Sep/08 with Tim

john lynch - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/08 with Lewis Andrew

soggy gear :(
beeson_paul - 2nd - 16/Aug/08

Rampikino - Lead - 02/Aug/08 with Cat

cem - Lead rpt - 02/Aug/08 with Gerard Thornley

Lovely stuff! Diciest bit for me was moving out right from the top of the flake; I spent a lot of time faffing at "the crux", trying to get gear in from a very awkward position (that shown in the photo in the Rockfax guide, I'm ashamed to admit) before I realised it's actually a lot easier (for me) to just move on up! Great climb though.
PeteH - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/08 with Dave Thomson

sce8 - 2nd dog - 27/Jul/08 with George Taylor

The Mountain Goat - 2nd dog - 27/Jul/08 with George Taylor

briar4012 - TR RP - 26/Jul/08 with Phil Lawrence

Hidden - TR O/S - 26/Jul/08

An aptly named route. Nearly fell off the hand traverse with no protection in. Told my belayer I was off and spotted my landing but thought I had best commit. Dithered and dithered about the crux before doing it a very odd way (staying very close to the arete, pinching it high up, rocking up and then swivelling before crossing my foot through!). Felt about 5c that way.
Will Hunt - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/08 with Sean Jacobs

couldn't do the crux. the cam placement isn't great, fumbled around doing it and was too pumped. Backed off.
Jeronimo - Lead dnf - 24/Jul/08 with Ben Johnson

Hidden - Lead β - 08/Jul/08

Hidden - Lead dnf - 08/Jul/08

Hidden - 2nd dog - 08/Jul/08

jl - Lead dnf - 01/Jul/08 with Penny

pennyb - 2nd dog - 01/Jul/08 with Jon

Had to back off as opposing nuts in a cam crack really didn't inspire me and when I backed the gear up the drag was enormous. Before cams this would have been ok with nuts but the rock looked worn from use of cam :(
98%monkey - Jul/08 with Annabel

Karl Wooffindin - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/08 with Ollie Hemstock

Took a while to figure out the crux, but got it in the end - glad to find the friend slots! Great route.
Tom Eagle - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/08 with Dave Greenald

bridget143 - 2nd dog - 09/Jun/08 with Brown

Brown - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/08 with Bridget

First E1
dread-i - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/08 with Chris Tan

riddle - Lead O/S - 17/May/08 with Yasmina

MD - 2nd dog - 10/May/08 with Misha

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/May/08

kfowler141 - Lead - 26/Apr/08

Hidden - Lead dnf - 08/Feb/08

BenJacobs - 2nd - 08/Feb/08 with Dw

Martin Haworth - Lead O/S - 06/Jan/08 with Andy

Andrew Sloan - 2nd dog - 06/Jan/08

lowersharpnose - Lead - 01/Jan/08

daveagriff - TR - 2008

Somerset swede basher - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/07 with Sarah Stirling

MeMeMe - 2nd - 04/Nov/07 with Nick and Andy

Ben Harper - Lead dog - 27/Oct/07 with joe sargent

Hard going to reach the ledge and then taxingly technical above
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - 24/Oct/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Oct/07

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 20/Oct/07

SteveM - Lead rpt - 07/Oct/07 with Kat

kitkat78 - 2nd dog - 07/Oct/07 with SteveM

Hidden - Lead - 20/Sep/07

nai - 2nd rpt - 11/Sep/07 with Simon Shaw

Slipped at the crux but held the slot dangling around the left of the arete. Managed to reverse back to the ledge and complete the route.
nai - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/07 with Rob & Rik

Nice climb but top section hard for the short!
climbingrick - Lead dnf - 19/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/07

Hidden - Apr/07

Cracking route with a little of everything at the grade.
Pythonist - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/07 with Teddington

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Mar/07

Pete Graham - Lead O/S - 2007 with James Fleming

Nicos - Lead O/S - 04/Nov/06 with rich howels

Hidden - Lead dnf - 15/Oct/06

Hidden - Solo - 30/Sep/06

Joe Costello - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/06 with Liam

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Aug/06

Steve Vincent - 2nd - 25/Jun/06

Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/06 with Alex

timreynolds - 2nd O/S - 27/May/06

Hidden - Lead - 27/May/06

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/06 with AJ

Hidden - Lead - 2006

Hidden - 2nd - 2006

Hidden - 2006

ASchwirtz - Lead dnf - 02/Oct/05

Phil West - 2nd dog - 29/Aug/05 with Chris Tan

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead O/S - 21/May/05 with James Graham

Well named!
BruceW - Lead O/S - May/05 with Jen

Hidden - Solo rpt - 24/Apr/05

Chris M - 2005

Easy for the grade
Peakology - Lead O/S - Sep/04 with rich 2nd

Hidden - Lead dog - 03/May/04

LankyPaddy - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/04

Jon Greengrass - 2nd O/S - 2004 with reeeve

Hidden - 2004

Daniel Armitage - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/03

Looking like never....
Phil West - Lead dnf - 21/Sep/02 with Chris Tan

AJ007 - Lead O/S - Sep/02

cem - Lead rpt - 17/Aug/02 with Mark Lim

cem - Lead dog - 07/Oct/01 with Miles Butteriss

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Jul/00

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/00

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Jul/00

tuftynick - Lead - 2000

clive-greenwood - Lead - 22/Mar/99

kato'sdad - Lead - Jun/98 with Rob Simpson

RobSimmo - 2nd - Jun/98 with Jon Berry

Hidden - 1997

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Jun/96

Phil West - Lead dnf - 08/Jun/96 with David Atherton

Hidden - Lead - 29/Oct/95

John Southworth - Solo O/S - 12/Sep/95

Charles Arthur - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/95 with Rick of MMC

Hidden - Lead - 01/Jun/95

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/95

Hidden - Lead - Jun/94

Hidden - Lead - 29/May/94

Fell off, gear gave way, Ouch !!!!
GrahamHP - Lead dnf - 1994 with David Stynes

Roget - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/93

Hidden - Lead - 07/Jul/93

NickJH - Aug/92

Hidden - Lead - 31/May/92

mik1miller - Solo - 1992

Hidden - Sep/90

Used a runner off to to the right
Chris the Tall - Lead - Sep/89 with Dave Gurney

Stoney Boy - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/89 with Colin Hughes

goi.ashmore - Solo β - 03/Jul/88

stp - Solo O/S - 1988

Michael Hood - Lead - 09/Mar/85

mark-abz - 2nd - 19/Sep/82 with Andy W

nbotting - 1980

KRB - Solo O/S - 13/Aug/79

Andy Fielding - TR - 1979

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