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Crooked Start VS 4c

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[Crooked Start, 3 kb]10m. Climb the wide cracks on the front face of the buttress. Head right at the top to the finish of Tinsel's Tangle. © ROCKFAX
FA. Wilf White 1956

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This climb is in 116 logbooks, and on 9 wishlists.

Reet good
Brannock - Solo O/S - 12/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/14

Nice route, however I struggled mentally with it after having such a 'mare on Crooked Start Direct before.
MPSBunny - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/14 with Robby Pineda

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Jul/14

alp79 - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/14 with Clio

Lancer - 2nd O/S - 06/Jul/14 with Steve PCC

stevelismore - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/14 with Nick PCC

classic gritstone move of awakward move over the top (no holds for hands but enough for the feet) basically a mantle move
climbercrab - 2nd - 25/Jun/14

Hidden - TR - 22/Jun/14

john_ni - 2nd - 06/May/14 with Mick Sissons (PCC)

belay bunny turned bad - Lead - 05/May/14 with al

cem - Lead O/S - 04/May/14 with Chris Smith

999thAndy - Lead rpt - 15/Apr/14

JEP - 2nd - 15/Apr/14

Clemmo - Solo O/S - 10/Apr/14

Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 16/Nov/13 with Phil Baxter, Alex Twist

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 09/Nov/13 with Richard

mikej - 2nd - 20/Aug/13 with Rick Naylor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/13

Clee - 2nd - 06/Jun/13 with Julian

westong - 03/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd dog - 26/May/13

nice moves all the way
adam carless - 2nd O/S - 19/May/13 with SecretSquirrel, James Rowe

slacky - Lead rpt - 11/May/13

Rich Malcolm - Lead rpt - 05/May/13 with Neil Jackson

Hidden - 2nd - 02/May/13

Interesting finish. Not worth the walk tho.
marcduhig - Lead O/S - 06/Jan/13 with Sexy Liz

bclifton - Lead - 2013

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 07/Oct/12

jshields - Lead - 19/Aug/12 with Mike Dowsett

Savaged by midges.
Gareth Bowen - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/12 with Tom Challen

Graeme Hammond - Solo rpt - 21/May/12

Hidden - TR O/S - 07/Apr/12

Hidden - TR - 07/Apr/12

stephenhartley - Lead - 31/Mar/12 with Laurence King

Hidden - 2nd - 31/Mar/12

After failure on Ghost of the Brook
harold walmsley - 2nd rpt - 13/Mar/12 with Colin Struthers

nice wee climb in a lovely setting.
Steven Andrews - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/12 with Howie

dionisys - Lead O/S - 26/Nov/11 with pat dawson

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Nov/11

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 03/Sep/11

Brown - Lead - 14/Jul/11 with Lily

Jim Brownlow - 2nd O/S - 29/May/11 with Mike Hayes

slacky - 2nd rpt - 19/May/11 with Ben

Seemed easy for VS 4c. Thought it deserved at least one star, though.
markhammonds - Lead O/S - 11/May/11 with Joe Barragry

crag_hopper_Jay - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11 with Andy Peters

Hidden - Lead β - 24/Apr/11

Joe Costello - Solo O/S - 17/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11

First lead of the year. It's been too long...
Becky E - Lead O/S - 20/Mar/11 with Graeme Hammond

Lovely climb, with a bit more traffic this would be solid 2 star material
Graeme Hammond - 2nd O/S - 20/Mar/11 with Becky E

Guy Wilson - 2nd - 19/Mar/11 with Andy Winter, Byron Buck

KatrinaP - 2nd - 19/Mar/11 with Dave Gilling

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/11

Byronius Maximus - 2nd - 19/Mar/11 with Andy Winter, Guy Wilson

slacky - Lead - 22/Jan/11 with Andes, Nick Taylor

rikbattye - Solo O/S - 28/Oct/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/Sep/10

999thAndy - 2nd - 01/Sep/10

Martin Stevens - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/10 with Tony M.

migs493 - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/10 with Josh

Very pleasant and very safe. A rather soft touch for VS4c.
djones66 - 2nd - 01/Jul/10 with Stve mc D

tompilgrem - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/10 with Dad

Nice climb in the shade on a hot day.
bobpilgrem - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/10 with Bob/Tom

Pilch - 2nd rpt - 12/Jun/10 with Graham

LozM - Lead - 23/May/10 with Mark J

Whealiebob - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/10 with Terry

Sarah Brookes - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/10 with dave wheal

Milne - TR O/S - 15/Apr/10 with Dave

julian allen - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/09

thomasadixon - 2nd O/S - 10/Oct/09 with Becca

A good route though with a worrying rounded top-out (maybe I should have placed some gear on the 2nd half of the route!) HS 4b
BeccaSnowden - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/09 with Tom

frost - Solo - 11/Aug/09

Graham led
Pilch - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/09 with Ed and Graham

EdShep - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/09 with Pilch and Graham

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/May/09

Hidden - 2nd - May/09

howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/09 with Chris FitzHugh and Ady

Different Steve - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Mr Carpet

Clee - Lead - 19/Apr/09 with Steve

Hidden - 2nd - 2009

Hidden - 2009

Consolation for finding the arete was too hard...
petemeads - Lead - 19/Jun/08

sten - Lead O/S - 25/May/08 with Amy Gustin/Tommy Franzen

Jim Walton - 2008

Hidden - Solo O/S - 04/Nov/07

Circus - Lead O/S - 05/May/07 with Scaffolder Dave

Hidden - 2nd - 04/May/07

Don't get why this is given VS here... More like a hard S / easy HS 4b!
Pythonist - Solo O/S - 20/Mar/07

HannyHancock - Lead dog - 04/Feb/07

Hidden - Lead dog - 27/Jul/06

Mutl3y - Lead - 18/Feb/06 with Clog

Clog - 2nd - 18/Feb/06 with Mutl3y

Jon Greengrass - 2006

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 07/Aug/05

climbingfoetus - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/05 with Tom Phillips (Spike)

Somerset swede basher - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/05 with Josh Radford

DerwentDiluted - Lead - 05/Jun/04 with Nicola Pettit

Hidden - Lead - 27/Mar/04

Hidden - 2nd - Mar/04

Hidden - Solo - Sep/03

Hidden - Solo O/S - 06/May/02

nickdonohue - Lead - May/02 with Kath Donohue

Hidden - Lead - Apr/01

Roget - Solo O/S - 15/Jul/98

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/97

Hidden - Lead - 06/May/95

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/93

Not really worth 4c.
Rog Wilko - Lead - May/93 with Debbie Wilkinson

Hidden - TR O/S - 16/May/92

Nigel Bond - Solo - 03/Jan/81

Andy Say - Solo - 10/Aug/79

Hidden - Solo O/S - 1978

mikej - Solo - 02/May/70 with E

mikej - Solo - 30/Sep/67 with Steve Radford, Dave Williams, Nigel Sumner

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
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Voting
Total votes cast 86
hard HVS0 of 31
HVS0 of 31
easy HVS0 of 31
hard VS1 of 31
VS3 of 31
easy VS2 of 31
hard HS25 of 31
HS0 of 31
easy HS0 of 31
hard 5a0 of 29
5a0 of 29
easy 5a0 of 29
hard 4c0 of 29
4c3 of 29
easy 4c3 of 29
hard 4b23 of 29
4b0 of 29
easy 4b0 of 29
3 Stars0 of 26
2 Stars5 of 26
1 Star20 of 26
0 Stars1 of 26
Bag of .....0 of 26
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Style of ascent

Soloed17 of 116 (14.7%)
Lead54 of 116 (46.6%)
Followed36 of 116 (31.0%)
Toproped5 of 116 (4.3%)
Unknown4 of 116 (3.4%)

'Climbed'45 of 116 (38.8%)
clean O/S58 of 116 (50.0%)
clean β1 of 116 (0.9%)
clean rpt9 of 116 (7.8%)
dogged3 of 116 (2.6%)