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[nick colton froggatt 1976, 2 kb]12m. A bruising battle for most. From a thread hand traverse the greasy flange and fist-jam the roof crack. Once established on the front face things ease instantly. A VS from the old days and upgraded (yet again) by popular demand! © ROCKFAX
FA. Joe Brown 1950

Ticklists: Gritstone's finest gruesome and damaging struggles, Wide Cracks, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Big Rons 100 extremes in a day, Peak Rock/6/ The Emergence of Joe Brown and Don Whillans, Joe Brown's Three-Star Grit-List, Pete's 150 Peak Extremes.

Photo: nick colton froggatt 1976 © brian cropper
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This climb is in 78 logbooks, and on 21 wishlists.

mike.rigby - 2nd - 27/Jul/14 with Rob Edwards

Fell on the crux. Pulled ropes went back for a full blown tussle!
French Erick - Lead β - 26/Jul/14 with Alex Heude

Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 01/Dec/13 with Scott, Sam Taylor

Made it to the edge of the cave roof but could not get out of the cave on to the outside crack.
Joel_e - TR dnf - 28/Apr/13 with Michael Gallimore

bclifton - Lead - 2013

andi turner - 2013

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead - 22/Sep/12

littleluke - 2nd β - 16/Sep/12

pie_eater_pete - Lead - 14/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead dog - 18/May/12

Hardest lead to date very pleased to get it first go
Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 18/Mar/12 with random

Pete Graham - Lead - 06/Mar/12 with Luke Porter

maddy.c - 2012

tuftynick - Lead - 16/Oct/11 with dave musgrove

Dave Musgrove Jnr - AltLd - 16/Oct/11 with Tufty

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11

tonanf - Aug/11 with Phil L

something of a fight, even with a big cam in the roof!
JamieSparkes - Lead β - 02/Jul/11 with johnpuddephatt, Nick

Nick1812P - 2nd dog - 02/Jul/11 with Jamie

Classic Stuff!!! So close a few weeks ago, clean today, trashed and bleeding hands were worthwhile :)
Graeme Hammond - Lead rpt - 06/Jun/11 with james pcc

Felt geasier than a McDonalds, one rest under the roof then arm jammed away. Surprised how little jamming there was really.
Jonathan Hall - Lead - 16/Apr/11 with Rob Middleton

tuftynick - 2nd - 06/Apr/11 with rich cross

Hidden - Lead - 06/Apr/11

Brown - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11 with Oska

One rest under the roof...shouldn't have really just wussed out. Managed it tho an for someone who can't jam that's enough!
thomasadixon - Lead dog - 23/Mar/11 with Becca

Suprisingly fun!
BeccaSnowden - 2nd dog - 23/Mar/11 with Tom

Backed off. Will come back with a cam of the right size!
Euan Strachan - Lead dnf - 20/Mar/11

ouch - will be back with two jammable hands
JamieSparkes - Lead dnf - 19/Mar/11 with Ben Finlay, Claire

llamaglama - 2nd - 19/Mar/11 with Jam

highlux - 09/Jan/11 with Martin Veale

mwatson - 2011

walts4 - 2011

Another stella crack-a-thon. Some wild contortions required.. Surprisingly, I managed to stay in reasonable control? Kind of felt like a dog that was constantly barking but never bit!
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/10

Superb, as much fun as it is brutal, I've got jamming grazes on my back and head to prove it. Slithered off doing the moves to get round on to the face. Coming back to lead this sometime.
jeffsheard - 2nd dog - 28/Oct/10 with Rich G

Nails! the start is well strenous and fairly technical. Can't wait to give it another go when i'm fresh
freddieneame10 - Lead dnf - Sep/10 with jonathan jones

Hidden - Lead - 01/Aug/10

First E3, got it second go!
James Oakes - Lead RP - 24/Apr/10 with Brad Cowley, Bill Lawrence

dont need to jam the roof despite guidebook description. E2 or E1 with big cam in roof.
gregoritos - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/10

Drew M - Lead - 2010

Hidden - Lead - 05/Dec/09

feilx - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/09 with james d

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Dad

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Sep/09

Cat G - 2nd - Sep/09

Hidden - Lead RP - 23/Aug/09

mel holmes - Lead dog - 08/Apr/09 with Alex@home

Hidden - Lead - 15/Mar/09

Nicos - Lead O/S - 10/Jan/09 with john crook

chris sm - Lead dnf - 25/Oct/08 with Pippa Froggatt

tumbling wizard - Oct/08

datoon - 2nd O/S - 13/Jul/08 with S

WB - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/08 with Jim

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/07

Oceanic - May/07

hvs at most
John Roberts (JR) - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/07

climbingrick - 2nd dog - Apr/07

jonnyboy - Lead O/S - 17/Mar/07 with Rob Boyle

robman - 2nd O/S - 17/Mar/07 with John mason

Hidden - 2007

tumbling wizard - Lead dog - 16/Oct/06

Castleclimber - Lead dog - Sep/06 with Fred Lyon

John Kettle - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/06

Damn, had to fail sometime. Cleaning the shoes after leaving the mud of the cave is a hard move. Doomed to failure thereafter. Practice those knee-holds, and bring along your big friends to fight this one.
UndercoverElephant - Lead dog - May/06 with S

Daniel Armitage - Lead RP - 06/Mar/06

Boy - 2006

dan gibson - 2006

Hidden - Lead dog - Aug/05

shark - Lead O/S - 03/Jan/05 with Mark Hundleby

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2005

Hidden - 2000

ste_d - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/96 with mik

mikedelderfield - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/94 with Steven Delderfield

Just the once - that was enough!
Chris Craggs - Lead RP - 1980

David Smith - 1970

mikej - TR dnf - 06/May/68 with Graham Evans

mikej - 2nd dnf - 17/Jul/66 with Keith Gregson

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Style of ascent

Lead48 of 78 (61.5%)
Followed13 of 78 (16.7%)
Toproped2 of 78 (2.6%)
Alt Leads1 of 78 (1.3%)
Unknown14 of 78 (17.9%)

'Climbed'32 of 78 (41.0%)
clean O/S20 of 78 (25.6%)
clean β3 of 78 (3.8%)
clean rpt1 of 78 (1.3%)
clean RP4 of 78 (5.1%)
dogged11 of 78 (14.1%)
dnf7 of 78 (9.0%)