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Ratbag* E2 5b

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[Ratbag, 3 kb]18m. A bold slab climb left of Tody’s crack. It can be reached from Heather Wall or Tody’s itself. The final section is a gripper. © ROCKFAX
FA. John Allen 1974

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Pete's 150 Peak Extremes.

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With helpful belay.
jing - TR dog - 20/Jul/14 with Alaric

With a tight rope (& a little rope assistance) on the top moves. Hats off to anyone that has lead this - well done!
Alaric - TR dog - 20/Jul/14 with Jing

Fragmod - Lead - 16/Apr/14

WillDoyle - Solo - 01/Apr/14

robw007 - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/14

CharlieMack - 2nd O/S - 19/Mar/14 with Ash

danm - 2nd - 09/Mar/14 with grimer

mark4344 - TR - 05/Mar/14 with Matt Payne

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

with todys start
the power - 2nd - 22/Dec/13 with Andy, deacon

Felt fairly straightforward to me, no harder than Motorcade.
Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 15/Dec/13 with James

amccann - Solo O/S - 04/Dec/13

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/13 with Floris

First E2 - absolutely brilliant, and felt totally untroubled. Get in!
Bertbee - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/13 with Fid, Tom Peeper Davison

RKirke - 2nd O/S - 06/Oct/13 with Edward Hastrop

first taste of trad! lead next time hopefully
Fidmark - 2nd O/S - 06/Oct/13

Stroppy - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/13 with Roger Kirke

Chris Reid - Lead - 29/Sep/13 with Lissy Manners

lissymanners - 2nd O/S - 29/Sep/13 with Chris Reid

Stefan_Morris - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/13 with jenny

side runner, E1?
ashtond6 - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/13

alp79 - 2nd O/S - 07/Sep/13 with Jonny Ashton

Gudge - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/13 with Charles Moreton

cem - 2nd rpt - 21/Aug/13 with Chris Gudgeon

With a view to lead. No problems but wasn't feeling the lead today.
JimboWizbo - TR O/S - 18/Aug/13 with Beth

Hidden - 01/Aug/13

Prof. Outdoors - TR - 30/Jun/13 with Lorna

SandyB - 2nd - 01/Jun/13 with Cat G

Committing last move, involving a precariously placed high left foot. Best trad lead to date and strangely enjoyable.
Cat G - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Sandra Berlin

Hidden - 2nd - 17/May/13

started via Tody's wall, a good combination
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 17/May/13 with David Fisher

from todys, great contrast
rurp - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/13

Hidden - Solo dnf - 28/Apr/13

sparkass - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/13 with Stuart Inchly

stuart34 - 2nd - 07/Apr/13 with duncan

tcn_2002 - 2nd - 16/Feb/13 with Ian Faulkner

ian d f - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/13 with Tom C, Pete H

sgl0jd - 16/Feb/13

Accessed via Tody's wall.
JdotP - 2nd O/S - 05/Jan/13 with Mr Sparkles

The Big Sender - 2nd O/S - 05/Jan/13

Started up Todys. First E2.
Roberttaylor - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/13 with Tom e

started via Tody's wall.
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/13 with JP

Nick Sillem - Lead O/S - 2013

saffy - 2013

Wayne S - Lead β - 02/Dec/12 with saffy

Beautiful climb on a perfect slab. Very run out but without an obvious crux move, so easy to keep going as long as you keep calm!
ebf - Lead O/S - 11/Nov/12 with Paul Stephenson

Seconded it first. Would be a bold onsight.
pastep - Lead - 11/Nov/12 with Will242

Shame i didnt have time climbing onsight! always carry a headtorch!!! ;)
minT(HUN) - TR O/S - 11/Nov/12 with Paul Stephenson

Exciting, but never terrifying. Balancy moves between good pockets. Ace.
victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/12 with James Oswald

Nice climbing
James Oswald - 2nd O/S - 27/Oct/12 with Colin Angus

bencoope - AltLd - 21/Oct/12 with tom wheeler

rocktigger - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/12 with Clare

Fragmod - 2nd - 05/Aug/12

brilliant! not as hard as the grip but it a real heart racer at the top. The moves felt more obvious but hard for 5b.
SGD - Lead - 21/Jul/12 with Vicky Holmes, Rob Gray

gordonday - TR O/S - 12/Jul/12 with clive

Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 07/Jul/12 with H washbrook

Jay C - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Rosie L

rosieposey14 - Jun/12

up Todys overhang first, have seconded it in the past.
deacondeacon - Lead - 18/May/12

jwpil - 2nd O/S - 18/May/12 with Deacon

Dave Foster - 2nd rpt - 18/May/12 with Si 2

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/May/12

pete1993 - 2nd O/S - 16/May/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/12

felt harder than Brown's
tgeh - Lead O/S - 26/Feb/12 with killian

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Feb/12

Aid@n - 2nd - 19/Feb/12

david morse - 2nd rpt - 13/Feb/12 with lole

Hidden - Lead - 13/Feb/12

tonanf - AltLd - Nov/11

tuftynick - Lead - 16/Oct/11 with dave musgrove

Hidden - Lead rpt - 16/Oct/11

Hidden - 2nd - 16/Oct/11

Dave Musgrove Jnr - AltLd - 16/Oct/11 with Tufty

Chi Cheng - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/11 with Jon Fane

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Sep/11

robman - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/11 with john ayrton

good fun. also climbed another E2 just right using a pocket as a side pull, felt abit harder than this one.
al123 - Solo O/S - 25/May/11

Not too difficult. Although I had a moment at the top when my right foot pinged from a pocket, leading to my right hand pinging from a sloper, leading to a right facing barn door off a left footed smearey left handed slopey crimpey thing... hang on a minute.
Dave Foster - Lead O/S - 22/May/11 with Andy

mattorford - Lead O/S - 11/May/11

JHiley - TR - 11/May/11

tomthecoolperson - Lead O/S - 11/May/11 with Ben 250

Just as good as Motorcade
AMarchant - Solo O/S - 18/Apr/11 with Ally Hurst

disturbed_one51 - Lead - 16/Apr/11 with Will Ward

Tamati - 2nd O/S - Apr/11

Tamati - 2nd dog - Apr/11

M_W_Court - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/11

Lev - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Emma Ross

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Mar/11

stefie c - 2nd - 23/Mar/11 with Martin Court

thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/11 with Mike, andy

highlux - 02/Mar/11 with Pete Hart

PeteH - 2nd O/S - 02/Mar/11 with Mark Watson

had a bit of a mental block, was ready to down climb, but managed to compose myself and finish it off, great route
Bill Lawrence - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/11 with Bradley Cowley, Guy VG, oaksi2

James Oakes - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/11 with Brad Cowley, Bill Lawrence, Guy Van Greuning

braders94 - 2nd O/S - 12/Feb/11 with GuyVG, Billy Lawrence, James Oakes

Gina_2 - 2nd - 2011

Si dH - 2nd rpt - 06/Nov/10 with Mark Derby

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/10

Oo-er. Glad to be seconding.
robinsi197 - 2nd - 30/Oct/10 with Nick

Dave Musgrove Jnr - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/10 with Tom Bridgeland

Nathanael-Mc - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/10 with Tom

Tomprusk - 2nd O/S - 25/Oct/10 with Nate

Hidden - TR rpt - 22/Oct/10

With shunt
Tithe Technique - TR O/S - 22/Oct/10

Hidden - TR rpt - 21/Oct/10

Hidden - TR rpt - 20/Oct/10

Hidden - TR RP - 19/Oct/10

Hannes B - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/10 with Josh W

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Sep/10

Is it E1 if I put a runner in tody's crack from the ledge?
Cake - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/10 with Matt

Finally!
r@bag - Lead β - 29/Aug/10 with Sarah Stirling, Bernie, Dom Sellars

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Aug/10

Jonathan Hall - Lead - 07/Aug/10 with Rob Middleton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/10

chris sm - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/10 with Jon Pearson

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Jul/10

Will_Maxwell - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/10 with Carina Topham

Rob Laird - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/10

Placed side runners
ipegg - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/10 with Tony Walentowicz, Rob Laird, Gavin Philips

gavster2405 - 2nd - 30/Jun/10 with Ian Pegg

smallerrich - Lead O/S - 27/May/10 with Ollie Wragg

donkster - 2nd O/S - 19/May/10 with mat

zombie_pat - 2nd O/S - 16/May/10 with Pete

AndyJBooth - 2nd O/S - 15/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/10

Pete Graham - Solo - 14/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2010

Hidden - Lead rpt - 2010

Drew M - Lead - 2010

Niiice runout.
jonnybull - Lead O/S - Oct/09

felixthelion - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/09 with Rob

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/09

AlistairB - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/09 with Johan

Hidden - Lead β - 08/Aug/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/09

Good route. On the hardest moves, all the best footholds are in the wrong places and the hardest part was forcing myself to use the smears instead so I stayed in balance :oS Lots of gear faff. If you start up Tody's, the friend you want for the rockiover is the same one you want at the base of the final slab...
Si dH - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Gary

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/09

mic_b - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/09

jsrous - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/09 with Oli Burrows, Matt Sharpe

excellent route worth more than the 1 star it gets in the guide
Ollie B - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/09 with M.Sharpe

after guy and after shunting a friend a bit higher up the crack, cheeky
Ram MkiV - Lead β - 09/May/09 with Guy & Oli

Great route, disappointing to not span for the top, so some scrappy climbing leftwards helped me gain the top, scared Steve a bit. Very similar to motorcade in many respects.
GuyVG - Lead O/S - 09/May/09 with Steve Ramsden

Hidden - 2nd - 07/May/09

metal arms - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09

London Luke - Lead O/S - Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Mar/09

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09 with AJ

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Mar/09

john lynch - 2nd O/S - 06/Mar/09 with Lewis Andrew, rich armour

Lewis Andrew - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/09 with John Lynch, Rich Armour

sean0386 - TR - Mar/09

Hidden - Lead dog - 02/Jan/09

nice balancey mooves abouve solid gear
hrgcb - Lead O/S - 2009 with Kunal

Wayne S - 2nd - 2009 with Jon Croxford

Robert Besford - Lead O/S - 2009 with Felix

inuklm - 2009 with Henry Close-Brooks

Hidden - 2nd - 2009

Misha - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/08

IanJackson - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/08 with Adam1973

Adam1973 - 2nd O/S - 01/Jul/08 with IanJackson

joe larner - Lead β - 20/Jun/08

Previously seconded Mark on this.
lowersharpnose - Lead - 12/Jun/08 with Danger

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/08

Hidden - Lead - 24/May/08

SecretSquirrel - TR - 05/May/08 with adam carless

I'll definitely be back to lead this, on a high-confidence day!
adam carless - TR O/S - 05/May/08 with SecretSquirrel

Mr Powly - Lead O/S - 27/Jan/08 with Chris Wall

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead O/S - 27/Jan/08 with John Nightingale

Pete Graham - Lead O/S - Jan/08 with James Fleming

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2008

Andrew Barker - Lead O/S - 2008

Dan 85 - 2nd O/S - 11/Nov/07 with John

First on sight E2.
D Berry - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/07 with Claire Berry

E2! My mate Nick casually mentioned it as an alternate finish to Tody's Wall, I thought it was a bit stiff!
MeMeMe - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/07 with Nick

Joe Dove - 2nd - 28/Jul/07 with kev

First E2. Did the Tody's Wall start. Felt fine. Happy.
cmsg - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/07 with Dave Ross

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jul/07

Hidden - Lead - 11/Jul/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Jul/07

climbingrick - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead - 24/Mar/07

A Crook - 2nd - 14/Jan/07 with Dom Stockton

Dom Whillans - Lead O/S - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Dec/06

david morse - Lead - 24/Oct/06 with ric moat

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Oct/06

Hidden - TR dog - 17/Jun/06

Big Steve - TR rpt - 17/Jun/06

Somerset swede basher - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/06 with John Sargeant

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Apr/06

tatz45 - Lead O/S - Apr/06 with Mark Boden

Boy - 2006

John Sergeant - Lead - 2006

John Lisle - 2006

Birdo - 2006 with Dave Bird

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Sep/05

LankyPaddy - Lead O/S - 18/Mar/05

fizzy_elephant - 2nd O/S - Mar/05 with stu

UndercoverElephant - Lead O/S - 2005

cem - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/04 with Graham Dolman

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/04

SteveM - Lead - 10/Jul/04 with Helen, Regina

Hidden - Lead - 12/Jun/04

Apharri - Lead O/S - Jun/04 with Dave Wharton

Theeni - 2nd - Apr/04

feilx - 2004

bunnikins - TR - 11/May/03 with Laurence

r@bag - TR - 11/May/03

Stone Muppet - 2002

The Pylon King - 2nd O/S - 2002

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 31/Oct/01

Hidden - Lead - 21/Aug/01

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/01

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/00

Hidden - 2000

tlr - Solo - 2000

tuftynick - Lead - 2000

Ben took fall & sprained ankle so went to pub.
marcoleptic - 2nd dnf - 2000 with Ben

Hidden - Lead - 22/Nov/98

Hidden - Lead rpt - 18/Oct/98

craig h - Solo rpt - 06/Sep/98

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 12/Dec/97 with Martin Veale

Hidden - 1997

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/95

Hidden - Lead - 14/Jun/94

Hidden - Lead - 24/Aug/93

Chris Reid - Lead O/S - 24/Jan/93 with Oliver Allen

craig d - 1993

NickJH - Lead O/S - 1993

Hidden - Lead - 10/May/92

Hidden - Lead - 08/Jun/91

Hidden - 2nd β - 14/May/91

craig h - 21/Oct/90

AB1965 - Lead - 10/Sep/90

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Mar/90

Hidden - Lead - 30/May/89

phardman - Lead O/S - 05/May/89

Hidden - 1989

goi.ashmore - Solo O/S - 30/Sep/87

sadams - Solo - 03/Aug/87 with Guy Townsend

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Aug/87

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Jun/87

shark - Solo O/S - 21/Nov/86

Hidden - Solo O/S - Sep/86

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/86

John Lisle - Lead - 1986 with AT

Tom V - 1986

Hidden - Lead - 17/Mar/85

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Mar/84

Ian Clare - 1984

Hammy - 2nd - 17/Jun/82 with Fai Kwong, Richard West

Hidden - Lead - 30/Mar/82

Ian Clare - 1982

ewar woowar - 1982

Hidden - Lead - 17/Jun/81

tapley - Lead - 11/Apr/81 with Alison Tapley

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1981

Hidden - Lead - 07/Dec/80

Hidden - TR - 23/Nov/80

Dave Musgrove - Lead - 16/Aug/80

Hidden - TR - 24/Nov/79

Mark Kemball - Lead - 28/Oct/79 with Paul Clark

David Smith - 1970

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Voting
Total votes cast 139
hard E30 of 45
E30 of 45
easy E30 of 45
hard E23 of 45
E227 of 45
easy E212 of 45
hard E13 of 45
E10 of 45
easy E10 of 45
hard 5c0 of 47
5c0 of 47
easy 5c0 of 47
hard 5b5 of 47
5b37 of 47
easy 5b3 of 47
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3 Stars3 of 47
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Style of ascent

Soloed14 of 275 (5.1%)
Lead134 of 275 (48.7%)
Followed75 of 275 (27.3%)
Toproped22 of 275 (8.0%)
Alt Leads3 of 275 (1.1%)
Unknown27 of 275 (9.8%)

'Climbed'112 of 275 (40.7%)
clean O/S137 of 275 (49.8%)
clean β6 of 275 (2.2%)
clean rpt12 of 275 (4.4%)
clean RP1 of 275 (0.4%)
dogged5 of 275 (1.8%)
dnf2 of 275 (0.7%)