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Heartless Hare** E5 5c

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[Nellyt, Heartless Hair, Froggatt with the E3 siderunner, 1 kb]12m. The left-hand side of the slab is a bold undertaking passing a ledge then two tiny left-facing flakes. Often climbed with side-runners (not too high!) at a friendlier E3. © ROCKFAX
FA. Steve Bancroft 1975

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Full of Myself - Johnny's Book namecheck, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Big Rons 100 extremes in a day, Peak Rock/12/The New Golden Age.

Photo: Nellyt, Heartless Hair, Froggatt with the E3 siderunner © nellyt
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 145 logbooks, and on 15 wishlists.

Easy after a top-rope
dannyboy83 - Solo RP - 05/Jun/14

Hidden - 2014

mike mo - 2nd - 2014

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/13

Hidden - 2nd β - 29/Sep/13

Finally got stuck into this one. Its not as bad as i thought. Cool sequence!
Dr Toph - Solo O/S - 31/Aug/13

Hidden - Solo RP - 28/Apr/13

mickyv33 - TR O/S - 28/Apr/13

Dennis999 - TR dog - 28/Apr/13

Hidden - Solo β - 23/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/13

With E3 side runner in
Stefan_Morris - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/13 with jenny

Jen 'Banksy' Banks - 2nd O/S - Mar/13 with Stefan

Hidden - Solo O/S - Mar/13

side runner, no spice no ring sting
joese7en - Lead O/S - 23/Dec/12

madasten - TR O/S - 14/Oct/12 with Gaz

Hidden - TR O/S - 15/Jul/12

Should really have soloed it. Felt very solid on the lead with a low side runner.
Ed morris - Lead RP - 16/Oct/11 with ewan

With side runner - which wasn't high enough to stop me taking a fall bad enough that I heard indrawn breath from the group 50ft away! Got it clean second go...
John_Hat - Lead RP - 20/Aug/11

chrishedgehog - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/11 with S. Hunt

with high side runner
Brown - Lead rpt - 19/Apr/11 with James T

Much easier moves but a lot more serious than Artless. Very positive holds and a cool high foot step, steady away!
Mike Goldthorp - Solo O/S - 03/Mar/11 with Steve Ramsden

Side runner E3 5c
Dan Mckinlay - Lead O/S - Mar/11

Far less scary than Great Slab! It didn't help that my right shoulder felt like it might pop near the top.
Andrew Barker - Solo O/S - 21/Jan/11 with Tom Lyons

Top roped with grigri three times, then soloed. Right after doing Great Slab & Hairless Heart. Perfect day.
highlux - Solo RP - 26/Nov/10

took advantage of good conditions in the morning before the rain came. Awesome but pretty scary. would be rubbish if toproped first.
akhughes - Solo O/S - 02/Nov/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - Nov/10

not OS as led years before with the side runner
Dave Musgrove Jnr - Solo - 27/Oct/10 with Tom Bridgeland

Hidden - TR rpt - 05/Aug/10

couple of top rope goes before soloing it. maybe not ethically cosher but i like my legs
jowgli - Solo RP - 28/Jun/10 with will kelsall

Seymore Butt - 2010

Boy - 06/Dec/09 with Iain Farrar, Adam , Nige Kershaw

With side runner - but not sure it would have protected crux! E4?
JulesV - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/09 with dave evans

With side runner
mic_b - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09

Rachel Slater - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/09 with Stuart Walker, Tony Walker

Got scarred and rescued on the onsight, just faffing tho, the move was easy! Got it 2nd go no prob's.
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo RP - 02/May/09

markhilton - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09

Hidden - Solo RP - 03/Apr/09

Second time I've done this with a side runner. Felt easy but still wouldn't solo it...
Misha - Lead rpt - 21/Mar/09

koopa - TR - 2009

Worth E5 due to fall potential. Moves are not that hard as I did it clean first time. Worth trying the onsight for the proficient.
liamoloughlin - Solo RP - Nov/08

With side runner placed from the ledge.
Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/08 with Ian Bruce

JasonG - Lead O/S - Sep/08 with Paul Wood

Put in side runners making it E3...
PenJD - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Simon Kincaid

Side runner below the first bush in the crack to the left.
Misha - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/08

bridget143 - 2nd dog - 19/Jun/08 with Dave Childs

wouldn't have wanted to lead it.
gethin_allen - 2nd O/S - Jun/08

v.jester - Solo RP - 17/Mar/08

side runner
jamesturnbull - Lead - 2008

Sean Kelly - 2008

With side runners placed from the ledge.
alaan - Lead O/S - 17/Nov/07 with Aly

MYSSAK - Solo O/S - 04/Nov/07

Led twice with a side runner then soloed.
Somerset swede basher - Solo RP - 06/Oct/07

Hidden - Lead - 23/Sep/07

Graded 6a in my books but felt like easy 5c.
thrutch - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/07 with helen

Hidden - Lead - 19/Jun/07

Dhonny_Jaws - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/07 with Michael Porter

nathanmanc - Lead RP - 18/Feb/07

steve taylor - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Hidden - TR O/S - 02/Dec/06

Timothy Greenhalgh - Lead O/S - 29/Oct/06 with Chico

Hidden - 2006

Using skyhooks as gear. Date a guess
Ally Smith - Lead O/S - 2006 with Oli

With side runner - E3
Alan James - UKC and UKH - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/05 with Tom Atle Bordevik

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - Solo β - 2005

Hidden - TR - 27/Jul/03

beermonkey - 2nd - Mar/03 with Mr Binks

e3 SIDE RUNNER
shoulders - Lead - 11/May/02 with joules

John Marsland - TR - 03/Jun/01

Hidden - Lead - 20/May/01

Hidden - Lead β - 2000

Hidden - TR - 01/May/98

Side runner
ellis - Lead O/S - Feb/98 with Rondy Salter

With 2 rests. Possibly the only route I've ever top-roped outdoors. Not much satisfaction in this kind of thing for me but recognize its the best way to push my grades so should do more!
EddieA - TR dog - 07/Jun/97 with Simon W

Hidden - TR - 16/May/97

With Side Runner.
Dave Musgrove - Lead - 09/Mar/97 with Sam Dew, David

Hidden - TR - 1997

Davros the Psyched - Solo O/S - 1996

Laramadness - 2nd O/S - 08/Oct/95

Hidden - Lead - 23/May/95

Hidden - Lead - 14/Jun/94

Duncan Bourne - 2nd - 08/May/94 with E Allcock

mattnuttall - Solo O/S - 10/Mar/94

OMSKB - TR - 1994

Jon Read - Solo rpt - Aug/93

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 09/May/93

IanD353 - Solo O/S - Mar/93

Hidden - TR O/S - 1993

craig d - 1993

Cowflinger - TR - Jun/92 with Andy Sharp

Hidden - Lead - 14/May/92

Hidden - Solo O/S - Mar/92

Hidden - 2nd - 1992

Hidden - TR dog - 10/Jul/91

whispering nic - 2nd - 26/Jan/91 with Graham Iles

craig h - 21/Oct/90

Hidden - Lead - 18/Mar/90

Date a rough guess
andy farnell - Solo O/S - 1990

side runner
NeilGriffiths - 1990 with Aidy Poll, Unsy

gordonday - TR O/S - 1990

Hidden - Lead - 05/May/89

phardman - Solo RP - 22/Feb/89 with Bill McKee

Lead with side runner
phardman - 2nd - 19/Feb/89 with Bill McKee

Side runners as was the behaviour of the day ...back in the day.
Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 1989

AB1965 - Lead - 09/May/88

Backed off loads of times before, done in about 4 seconds with no-one else at the crag.
goi.ashmore - Solo RP - 29/Apr/88

Hidden - Lead - 19/Apr/88

Neil R - TR - 20/Sep/87 with Ian

Hidden - TR - 10/Aug/87

With a side runner so only E3 but was given 6a at the time.
Michael Hood - Lead - 26/Jul/87

Billg - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/87 with Dave Gregory

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1987

Hidden - Lead - 02/Nov/86

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 08/Jun/86 with Andy Barker

Hidden - Lead - 12/Apr/86

Hidden - Apr/86

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1986

mark mcgowan01 - 1986

Tom V - 1986

Hidden - Lead - 15/Dec/85

Hidden - Lead - 16/Jun/85

I used a side runner but led it comfortably enough. Would I have done so without it? We'll never know.
Dave Musgrove - 12/Jun/85 with Andy Nicholson

with side runners
shark - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/85 with Mark Mitchell

Hidden - Lead - 17/Mar/85

charlesmfrench - TR O/S - 04/Nov/84

Hidden - Lead - 15/Sep/84

Hidden - 2nd dog - 01/Jul/84

With Side runner E3
sadams - Lead - 26/Jun/84 with Pete Herrod

Mike Owen - 01/Apr/84 with John Peake

Done with side runner in crack on L - thus E3. I think I fell a couple of times too.
stp - Lead - 28/Mar/84

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Mar/84

Hidden - TR - 24/Sep/83

Mark Kemball - Lead - 03/Oct/82 with Andy Gittins

mark-abz - TR - 08/Sep/81 with Andy W

Side runners (as everyone did then) a number of falls on previous occasions.
Mark Kemball - Lead - 12/Oct/80 with Bill McKee

side runner
hodjster - Lead O/S - Sep/80 with Tony Burden

Chris Craggs - Solo - 1980

nbotting - 1980

Siderunner (not too high) but onsight. Happy to claim E3!
petemeads - Lead O/S - May/78

with sides
andy gittins - Lead O/S - 1978

Side runners, 2 falls.
Mark Kemball - Lead dnf - 23/Oct/77

Hidden - TR - 15/Oct/77

Hidden - TR - 15/Oct/77

Mark Kemball - Lead dnf - 17/Apr/77

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Style of ascent

Soloed27 of 145 (18.6%)
Lead59 of 145 (40.7%)
Followed18 of 145 (12.4%)
Toproped25 of 145 (17.2%)
Unknown16 of 145 (11.0%)

'Climbed'64 of 145 (44.1%)
clean O/S51 of 145 (35.2%)
clean β4 of 145 (2.8%)
clean rpt5 of 145 (3.4%)
clean RP14 of 145 (9.7%)
dogged5 of 145 (3.4%)
dnf2 of 145 (1.4%)