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Janker's Groove* VS 4c

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[awkward, 3 kb]10m. The right-hand of the grooves is approached from the previous climb. The direct start is a classic 6b featuring a heave on a fist-crunching jam, it was Whillans' barmy idea though apparently he never completed it. © ROCKFAX
FA. Joe Brown 1948

Ticklists: Peak Rock/6/ The Emergence of Joe Brown and Don Whillans.

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This climb is in 300 logbooks, and on 5 wishlists.

Andy Peak 1 - Solo - 14/Jul/14

Charles Kinniburgh - 2nd - 26/May/14 with Rob Davies

5eamuz - 2nd O/S - 18/May/14 with Gerard O'Sullivan

GOS - Lead O/S - 18/May/14 with 5eamuz

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/May/14

planetmarshall - Lead O/S - 05/May/14 with John Haddon

cem - 2nd rpt - 04/May/14 with Chris Smith

Fred_Richard - Lead - 22/Apr/14 with Pete

I'm not sure whether I'd call it a 'bum jam' but some horrible sequence of weird knee jams with cams up my arse lead to getting up above the groove, and after that it was nice climbing.
JoeCoxson - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/14 with Hannah Smith

HannahSmith - 2nd O/S - 04/Apr/14 with Joe Coxson

nrhardy - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/14 with paul29uk

Tim's first attempt unsuccessful, I tried and barely made it myself
Retro Rowan - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/14 with climbingdrummer

Hidden - Lead - 15/Mar/14

Climbingdrummer - 2nd - 15/Mar/14 with Retro Rowan

I tried the hard move in this a few times and thoroughly didn't want to do it so Callum bailed me out!
LibS - 2nd - 23/Feb/14 with Callum Tregaskis

Tough move into the upper crack. Had all my weight on a finger jam. Good honest fun.
ralphio - Lead O/S - 23/Nov/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/Nov/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/13

Toe heel all the way through the tricky bit. We all three climbed this differently.
davidalcock - 2nd - 06/Oct/13 with Ben, mapperley samurai

gidmord - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/13 with Oli Brendt

owb106 - 2nd β - 06/Oct/13 with Gideon Mordecai

A taxing VS, easier than expected start, tough getting into the groove and getting orientated for the upper section.
mapperley samurai - Lead - 05/Oct/13 with David Alcock, Ben Moss

pbuggy91 - Lead dog - 22/Sep/13

gethin_allen - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/13 with Spiros

bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/13 with Duck Egg

ade sheffield - Lead - 17/Aug/13 with Chris VanderHoven

Alex Riley - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/13 with Tom Snowdon

Pretty unpleasant struggle !
Julian Lane - 2nd O/S - 13/Aug/13 with Mynydd Colin

dan_blair87 - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13

rob.grafton - AltLd - 12/May/13 with Martin Smith

Ant Man Bee - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/13 with Kirill Spiridonov

Kirill - 2nd rpt - 14/Apr/13 with Paul Bolton

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Apr/13

shite
the power - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/13 with charlie

stuaart - 2nd - 17/Mar/13 with Chris Burn

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Mar/13

ERH - 2013

kingjam - Lead - 2013

stevemarkperry - 2nd O/S - 16/Dec/12 with Glenn Manifold

A good tussle.
AlexanderRyanBanks - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/12 with Jo

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 07/Oct/12

slacky - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Andes, Ben

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/12

oodie72 - Lead dog - 21/Jul/12 with Alex Pond

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/12

A bit of a struggle and hot too. Missed footholds that could not be seen once in the groove. Would do better next time but I doubt that I will bother
Neil Rodgers (PCC) - Lead dog - 24/May/12 with Marilyn

sambosanquet101 - 2nd - 20/May/12 with Peter Darch

madasten - 2nd - 20/May/12 with Gaz

pldarch - Lead O/S - 20/May/12 with Sam

ipegg - Lead O/S - 12/May/12 with Gavin Philips

gavster2405 - 2nd - 12/May/12 with Ian Pegg

gavinpeach - 2nd O/S - 01/Apr/12 with David Shelmerdine

David Shelmerdine - Lead dog - 01/Apr/12 with Gavin Peach

False start on first attempt to get in the groove, 2nd go sorted feet out much better.
Steve13 - Lead dog - 25/Mar/12 with Craig Lukins

clukins - 2nd β - 25/Mar/12 with Steve Holland

Last route of the day and no pushover!
Falko - Lead O/S - 20/Mar/12 with Al W.

Kirill - 2nd dog - 18/Mar/12 with Elise Belle, Graham Dolman

mark4344 - 2nd - 07/Mar/12 with Matt Payne

cheeky - Lead - 07/Mar/12 with Mark Philipson

Elise2977 - 2nd O/S - Mar/12

Oceanic - 08/Jan/12

PAJames - 2012

Hidden - 2012

deacondeacon - Lead - 21/Nov/11

tonanf - AltLd - Nov/11

wet, pulled on gear
Kirill - Lead dog - 30/Oct/11 with Charles Moreton

psychomansam - Lead O/S - 30/Oct/11

cem - 2nd rpt - 30/Oct/11 with Kirill Spiridonov

lizzie789 - 2nd O/S - 30/Oct/11


marcduhig - Lead O/S - 30/Oct/11 with Sexy Liz

stratandrew - 2nd - 16/Oct/11 with Ozcan Yanik

ozzie35 - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Andy Stratford

Rachel Slater - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/11 with Olli Crudge

Hidden - Lead - 31/Aug/11

kermit_uk - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/11 with Kurt Davy

KurtD - 2nd O/S - 15/Aug/11 with Cameron Anderson

Dave89 - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/11 with Andre

Joris.Roulleau - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/11 with Vic Odell

belay bunny turned bad - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11 with Hannah, loundsy

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/11

b.hayley - Lead O/S - 21/May/11

AlexxelA - Lead O/S - 19/May/11

Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 19/May/11 with John

John Bish - Lead O/S - 14/May/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/11

RiverRoam - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Martin Wing

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Apr/11

Monkey_Alan - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Max Streeton

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/11

Climbed with far more grace then when I lead it a year or so ago!
lrandall - 2nd - 10/Apr/11 with French

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Apr/11

Gerlach - TR - 02/Apr/11 with Steve Blatherwick

Hidden - TR O/S - 26/Mar/11

Hidden - 26/Mar/11

Guy Atkinson - 2nd O/S - 18/Mar/11 with Chris Swift

timofy - Lead O/S - 12/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead - 2011

Hidden - Lead - 27/Nov/10

monika paprzycka - 2nd - 27/Nov/10 with Jeremy Axford

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/10

Darrell Read - Lead - 07/Nov/10 with William Moore

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Oct/10

ClimberJimmyB - Lead O/S - 30/Oct/10 with Dan Matthewman

Nasty thrutch into the groove.
Andrew Sloan - Lead O/S - 29/Oct/10

pebbles - 2nd - 24/Oct/10 with kirk

Bex_M - 2nd dog - 24/Oct/10 with Duncan Dunbar

Thrutched my way up despite being well aware that it could be done much more nicely, much more fun!
Byronius Maximus - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/10 with Ben Littley

Hidden - Lead - 11/Oct/10

Bird lead. Glad I seconded, made a right mess of getting into the groove.
treg - 2nd - 02/Oct/10 with Ben, Bird

Hidden - 25/Sep/10

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Sep/10

Ollie B - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/10

mattime18 - 2nd O/S - Sep/10 with olly burrows

Luuuuuke - 2nd O/S - 31/Aug/10 with Ian

oooeese - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10 with stvey

Did traditional start involving extra hand traverse (plus trees, sand, etc). Fun!
Bobby Gilbert - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Katherine Sydney

did old skool start with extra traverse. had trouble committing to swinging fall with face in tree and hands in sand
katherinesydney - 2nd dnf - 22/Aug/10 with bobby gilbert

Jim Malo - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/10 with Tim, Barry

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/10 with jim, TimG

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10

Nicest of the three Jankers. Enjoyed this, although crux does draw you into the crack where its horrible (don't go there!)
climbingrev - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/10 with Tim Angell

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/10

Steve Mc D lead this even though I warned him he wouldn't like it. And he didn't - spent a long time half-wedged at the bottom of the flared crack. With the benefi tof the rope above me, I discovered that if you're happy to pull on some small crimps, you pull up into the big crack without having to do any of the 'thruthy' stuff.
djones66 - 2nd O/S - 01/Jul/10 with Stve mc D

James_D - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Esther

ajc - Lead O/S - 22/May/10

Hidden - Lead - 15/May/10

jcurley - Lead O/S - 14/May/10 with Horace

pauldr - 2nd - 09/May/10

Traditional thrutching manoeuvres!
Ragnaar - 2nd O/S - 22/Apr/10 with martin hirons

ggflett - TR O/S - 11/Apr/10 with John Carlin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/10

Awkward but not bad.
CharlotteJelleyman - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/10 with Steve Franklin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2010

disturbed_one51 - 2nd - 01/Dec/09 with Wee man

Jonathan Hall - Lead - 01/Dec/09 with Mark Williams

Funky. Somehow ended up with my back to the groove.
lrandall - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Alex

Less of a struggle than Jankers Crack - but not much
Babika - 2nd - 11/Oct/09 with Charles Leek

Becky E - 2nd - 10/Oct/09 with Phil Lee

Pelleas - 2nd - 13/Sep/09 with John S., Norman

Neil D - 2nd O/S - 23/Aug/09 with Ben Ram

thecurlyone - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/09 with Neil D

dimwit18 - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/09 with Keith Peck

Awkward route made awkwarder by Peri's peculiar nut placement that I had to retrieve. Squirm into the final crack is great fun.
Will Smith - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/09 with Rob and Peri

much fun watching peri fold herself into the top crack whilst ignoring the ledges for feet!
lithos - 2nd - 11/Aug/09 with will smith

just coz youre not flexible enough, rob...
pebbles - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/09 with will, rob

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Aug/09

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Jul/09

I made this hard work,
Pilch - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/09 with graham and Jon

slacky - Lead O/S - 28/May/09 with Ben Abell & Tim

Lizzy Andrew - 2nd - 14/May/09 with Mark Taylor

vvanhinsbergh - 2nd O/S - 10/May/09 with John Brannock

Hidden - Lead rpt - 03/May/09

Hidden - Lead - May/09

richorme - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/09 with Wendy Potts

tompilgrem - 2nd - 15/Apr/09 with Dad

bobpilgrem - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/09 with Bob/Tom

Hidden - Lead - 11/Apr/09

Chrismoore94 - 2nd - Apr/09

bjlsmith - 2nd - 21/Mar/09 with Roger and SMC

Chris Harding - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09 with Dave Stevenson

Don Jebus - Lead O/S - 14/Jan/09 with tom morgan

sdht - 2009

inuklm - 2009 with Henry Close-Brooks

Hidden - 2009

Brown - Solo O/S - 07/Dec/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/08

Gareth Clendinning (UBMC) - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/08 with Neil Mackie

Dave led. Awkward body jam.
wanderso - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/08 with David Anderson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 24/Apr/08

marccb6 - Lead - 08/Mar/08 with Tom

Jim Walton - 2008

daveagriff - 2nd - 2008

Sean Kelly - 2008

richyg - 2008

Hidden - 2008

steve2006 - Lead O/S - 2008 with tim, Andrew Pearson

RocknRoll - Lead O/S - 31/Dec/07 with Jim Slater

Jim Slater - 2nd O/S - 31/Dec/07 with Gerry Sheehy

First lead ever
Mike Goldthorp - Lead O/S - Dec/07 with Kieran King

Somerset swede basher - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/07 with Sarah Stirling

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Oct/07

Hidden - Lead - 06/Oct/07

Awkward.
duzinga - 2nd O/S - 06/Oct/07 with Pete

erica - 2nd - 29/Sep/07 with John

John Brayshaw - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/07 with Erica

kitkat78 - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/07 with SteveM

SteveM - 2nd rpt - 01/Sep/07 with Kat

DerwentDiluted - Lead - 22/Aug/07 with Nicola Pettit

mr random - Lead O/S - Jun/07 with Costas

malc - Lead rpt - 23/May/07 with Paul S

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/07

kenneM - Lead - Apr/07 with Booby Hewitt

Set off to do Janker's Crack, but backed off onto Janker's Groove instead. Nice knee-bar action!
victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/07 with Martin

simonw1 - 2nd O/S - 28/Jan/07 with Allan Watson

toasted - Lead - 2007 with Simon Whitehead

Hidden - 2007

Brian Rodgers - Lead - 2007

Hidden - 2007

featuresforfeet - Lead O/S - 17/Dec/06 with SecretSquirrel

SecretSquirrel - 2nd - 17/Dec/06 with featuresforfeet

Crux is a right old squirm, the rest of it is pretty pleasant.
adam carless - Lead rpt - 03/Nov/06 with dpmuk

dpmUK - 2nd O/S - 03/Nov/06 with Adam Carless

Andy Clarke - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/06 with Tommo, Rob

Timothy Greenhalgh - 2nd - 29/Oct/06 with Chico

tri-nitro-toulumne - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/06 with James Booth

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Aug/06

Got horribly stuck and only managed with a significant amount of knee scraping!
andybeanland - 2nd O/S - Aug/06 with Graham Withers

Wierd and awkward, doesnt deserve a star.
Chriswallis2 - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/06 with Jim

baldcoder - Lead O/S - 27/May/06 with LR_Davidson

baldcoder - Lead O/S - 27/May/06 with Little Old Lady

Stig - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/06 with Charlie Reade-Jahn

Nicos - Solo O/S - 05/Apr/06 with solo

ChrisJD - Lead - 18/Feb/06 with rc

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Feb/06

Tobias at Home - 2nd rpt - 11/Feb/06 with SteveM

SteveM - Lead rpt - 11/Feb/06 with Tobs

IOAN D - Lead - 28/Jan/06 with rhys

dan gibson - 2006

John Lisle - 2006

cem - Lead O/S - 19/Nov/05 with Graham Dolman

Hidden - Lead - 12/Nov/05

FrankW - 2nd O/S - 09/Oct/05 with Sam Gerrard

A Crook - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/05 with Dom Stockton

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/05

Budge - 2nd O/S - 19/May/05 with Carl Tiivas

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/05

mel holmes - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/05 with Nancy Maitland

Rampikino - Lead - 16/Apr/05 with Rob Wilson

Dave Mason - Lead O/S - Apr/05 with Andrew Roach

Pythonist - 2nd O/S - 2005 with Chris Jennions

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Nov/04

Cake - Lead - 14/Nov/04 with Matt

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 15/May/04

rob wmc - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/04 with Pete & Alex ww

GrahamHP - Lead - 2004 with Elved Roberts

Marq - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/03 with Daniel Dennehy

John Kettle - Lead - 2003

Ben1983 - Lead O/S - Sep/02

djking1983 - Lead - 24/Aug/02

PenJD - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/02 with Jon Ascroft

Duncan I - Lead - 2002

Budge - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/01 with Mike Oates

rlrs - Lead dnf - 2001

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/00

shoulders - Lead - 06/May/00 with dai

malc - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/00 with RL

marcoleptic - Lead O/S - 2000 with Mel

Roget - Lead O/S - 27/Dec/99

Reds - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/98 with Sezer

timreynolds - 2nd - 24/May/98 with John Burnip

Scott McRae - 21/Mar/98 with Tim Basset

WB - Lead O/S - 1998

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/97

Hidden - 2nd - Oct/97

At one point I was facing out!
Paul-Michael - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/97 with Paul Nurse

Hidden - 1997

Phil West - 2nd O/S - Aug/95 with Steve Wild & jimmy Turner

Yourlead - 2nd - 10/Jun/95 with Graham Penny

John Southworth - May/95

Chris Ellis - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/94 with Mark Pudner

Hammy - AltLd - 25/May/94 with Pete Robinson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/94

Hidden - TR O/S - 20/May/92

Tony Little - Solo O/S - 13/May/92 with Chris, Vince, Alan and James

Hidden - 2nd - 04/May/92

Marti999 - Lead - 1990

Nick Rundall - Lead O/S - 1990

Laramadness - 2nd - 03/Sep/89

Hidden - 1989

Raggar - 2nd - 09/Oct/88 with Guy C, Jon B

sinbad - 2nd - 31/Oct/87 with Kenny

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Aug/87

Tony Buckley - Jul/86 with Tony Jinks

charlesmfrench - Lead O/S - 08/May/83

Ken Taylor - AltLd - 23/Mar/82 with Andy Bond

Ian Clare - 1982

ewar woowar - 1982

babymoac - Lead - Jun/81 with MTW

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1981

Dave Musgrove - Lead - 1980

Nigel Bond - Lead - 25/Jun/79 with Martin Crosby

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/May/78

Andy Say - Lead - 1978

Mark Kemball - Lead - 08/Feb/75

Derek Ryden - Lead O/S - 1975 with Pete Whinstanley

Hidden - Lead - 21/Jul/74

mikej - Solo - 25/Feb/73

rogerskews - 1973

RichardMc - Lead - 1971

David Smith - 1970

mikej - 2nd - 09/Mar/68 with Brian Norris

mikej - 2nd - 13/May/67 with Frank Chester

mikej - Lead - 29/Jan/67 with Frank Chester

mikej - Lead - 30/Oct/66 with Mike Lewis

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hard VS8 of 41
VS29 of 41
easy VS4 of 41
hard HS0 of 41
HS0 of 41
easy HS0 of 41
hard 5a0 of 39
5a0 of 39
easy 5a0 of 39
hard 4c6 of 39
4c31 of 39
easy 4c2 of 39
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Style of ascent

Soloed8 of 300 (2.7%)
Lead161 of 300 (53.7%)
Followed96 of 300 (32.0%)
Toproped4 of 300 (1.3%)
Alt Leads5 of 300 (1.7%)
Unknown26 of 300 (8.7%)

'Climbed'123 of 300 (41.0%)
clean O/S156 of 300 (52.0%)
clean β2 of 300 (0.7%)
clean rpt9 of 300 (3.0%)
dogged8 of 300 (2.7%)
dnf2 of 300 (0.7%)