Sorrell's Sorrow** HVS 5a
[Sorrell's Sorrow HVS 5a, 3 kb]12m. The superb soaring central crack-line is compelling and hard work. Big gear needed. © ROCKFAX
FA. Joe Brown 1950

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Steve Ashton's 100 Classic Gritstone Climbs, Wide Cracks, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+, Joe Brown's Three-Star Grit-List.

Photo: Sorrell's Sorrow HVS 5a © MGC
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 191 logbooks, and on 42 wishlists.

hailtryfan - 2nd - Nov/14 with Andrew Porter

Clemmo - 2nd - 28/Oct/14 with Johnny

tsjx - 2nd - 05/Oct/14 with Dave C, John Mc

soph - 2nd rpt - 05/Oct/14 with Tony Stone

TobyA - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/14 with Tom R

PeteH - 2nd O/S - 24/Sep/14 with Chris Fox

Fantastic. No 6 cam and big bros placed for the first time!
rurp - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/14 with bill farmer

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Sep/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/14

Joemanglerocks - Lead - 12/Jul/14 with Satoshi Kimura

HVS in Curbar grades.
Kirill - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/14 with EeFu

EeFu - 2nd dog - 14/Jun/14 with Kirill Spiridonov

R0bbie - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/14 with Taba

dannyboy83 - 2nd O/S - 31/May/14 with Floris

Matt Cooke - 2nd rpt - 26/May/14 with Rosh

Green, wet lower crack and then raining for the rest. Quite bold if you haven't saved a big cam for the top half. Great route though.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 22/May/14

kyaizawa - Lead O/S - 11/Jan/14 with Sophie Cheng

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

Was bloomin windy!
madasten - 2nd - 21/Dec/13 with Gaz

Cracking route, proper old school HVS. 5 stars !!
gazfellows - Lead - 21/Dec/13 with Billy

Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/13 with Sam Taylor

And oh my god did I have to work this one. Came off the burly start moves about six times before finally getting it clean. The initial jam just being a little too sloppy to feel really comfortable and have grit rash to prove it :D The rest of the climb is great with some really nice moves and it was definitely worth perservering.
valentinesbabe - TR dog - 05/Oct/13 with Jack Drake, Charley Fell

Just get on it! Not as hard/imposing as it looks.
Jackwd - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Charley Fell, Angela Paul

Tough start, especially when there's cam blocking the hidden holds in the crack...
charley - 2nd RP - 05/Oct/13 with JackD, Ange, Kev

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/May/13

Brilliant stuff! Climbed surprisingly elegantly.
Dan Geh - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/13 with Thomas Geh

amazing climb, standard HVS and standard 5a
tgeh - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/13 with dan geh

nick ferro - 06/Apr/13 with toolboxtim

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Apr/13

Gambit - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Barney

dionisys - 2nd - 2013 with pat dawson, vanderz

Hidden - Lead - 2013

Vincej - 2nd - 2013 with Nevil

patsaunders - 2nd - Oct/12

Tony Holdsworth - Lead rpt - 29/Sep/12 with Tom Reed, Nick Mitchell

Reedymc - 2nd O/S - 29/Sep/12 with Nick Mitchell, Tony Holdsworth

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/12

ranga - 2nd - 11/Aug/12

Neil led. Quality route---must lead it myself next time.
stuaart - 2nd - 21/Jul/12 with Dave Payne, Neil Redgrave

pie_eater_pete - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/12 with bwestwood

bwestwood - 2nd - 25/Jun/12

Struggled unexpectedly on the start
harold walmsley - Lead rpt - 06/Mar/12 with Colin Struthers

Hidden - 2012

Tony Kartawick - 2012

Bob Windsor - Lead - Nov/11

bigdrew - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Mark R

mark20 - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/11

slacky - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Gary

Thought I was quite good at jamming until today. Took 2 rests at 2M then managed to grind it out to the finish. Thought I might have to aid it at one point. Oh the shame!
marcoleptic - Lead dog - 13/Oct/11 with Tommo

Hidden - 2nd β - 17/Aug/11

A superb JoeBrown classic,can't understand why Iv'e left it so long.Beware limestone crimpers :)
andybirtwistle - Lead - 02/Aug/11 with Keith Lonsdale

Hidden - Lead - 03/Jul/11

TerryLines - 2nd - 02/Jul/11

Mr. K - Lead O/S - 10/May/11 with Pete Dollman

Hidden - Lead rpt - 02/Apr/11

An embarrassing fight! This can it seems be done quite smoothly with sufficient ability
jkarran - Lead - 02/Apr/11 with Aly, Pete

petellis - 2nd O/S - 02/Apr/11 with Aly, Cleric James Koran

disturbed_one51 - Lead - 26/Mar/11 with Will Ward

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/11

Brutal! My offwidth technique has been shown up as sorely lacking by this
Rob84 - 2nd dog - 14/Mar/11 with Dave Turnbull

bigie bob - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/11

Hidden - Lead - 2011

DeanD - 2011

DeanD - 2011

Jonathan Hall - 2nd - 16/Nov/10 with Rob Middleton

stuart34 - Lead dog - 14/Nov/10

crispyboy - 2nd - 14/Nov/10 with inchley

HamishD - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Beth UNUMC

Diggler - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Calder

Calder - 2nd - 06/Nov/10 with Mark

ACE!
Birdo - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/10 with Jon Miles

The Mountain Goat - 2nd dog - 02/Oct/10

Abevan - 2nd - 02/Oct/10 with james walker

joese7en - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/10

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 19/Aug/10 with Pete

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 08/Aug/10

Tony Holdsworth - Lead rpt - 31/Jul/10 with Martin Haworth

jtree03 - Lead - 25/Jul/10 with Tony, Brother Al

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/10

V impressive lead by Matt. Found this v tiring on the arms!
helios - 2nd - 09/May/10 with Mathew Cantrill

Hidden - Lead dog - 09/May/10

burto - Lead β - 15/Apr/10 with fergus, lyndsey

Fergus Cuthill - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/10

brutal but excellent and essential. The lower crack ate part of my hand and lots of dripping blood was involved :o abseiled to get gear but had to climb back up after forgetting to pick up my helmet which i took off to enter the upper crack. Small wires would have bee useful above here if i hadn't forgotten them.
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 20/Feb/10

Ken Taylor - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2010

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - 2010

MikeDowsett - 2nd - 2010 with Tony Fidler

david morse - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/09 with steve+cliff

Hidden - 2nd dog - 26/Oct/09

Pete Graham - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/09 with Ben Dorey

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Oct/09

Ketu - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/09 with Nigel

GrantB - Lead - 12/Sep/09

mattyork2 - 2nd O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Grant Brewer

ed woods - 2nd - 18/Aug/09 with Adam

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead O/S - 09/May/09 with Steve Harby

Hidden - 2nd - 09/May/09

Adam1973 - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/09 with Big Ian

nige - 2nd - 05/Apr/09 with richard kirby

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/09 with Nige

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/09

Good stuff, traditional fist-jamming :) Left a few grazes on my hand...
Si dH - Lead O/S - 28/Feb/09 with Neil Furniss

hrgcb - Lead - 2009 with Joe Prinold

keith leonard - 2009

Hidden - 2009

Bristoldave - Lead β - 18/Dec/08 with Helen

Second Lead
nadeem - Lead O/S - 03/Dec/08

Martin Haworth - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/08 with Andy

What a ball buster!
Andrew Sloan - 2nd dog - 16/Nov/08

btc - 2nd O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Ben Harper

Ben Harper - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/08 with ben cole

Toby Dunn - Solo - 03/Sep/08

OffshoreAndy - 2nd - 22/May/08 with Works Simon

Graham led, hard to get started, fist jam then reach into the crack for holds,doesnt ease of , although less sustained.
Pilch - 2nd O/S - 10/May/08 with Graham and Ed

EdShep - 2nd O/S - 10/May/08 with Pilch and Graham

mje1398 - 2nd O/S - 16/Feb/08 with Emily S + John M

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2008

Sean Kelly - 2008

Hidden - 2008

stephenhartley - 2nd - 2008

jimbonfire - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/07

colin milton - 2nd - 10/Oct/07 with pep

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 01/Sep/07 with Nige Shaw

Oliver Sherman - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/07 with Sophie Whyte

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/07

Adam Potter - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead rpt - 04/Feb/07

The first 10ft were a real battle, apparently I missed some good holds hidden in the crack. After that it was great. A true Curbar style climb.
adam carless - Lead O/S - 04/Feb/07 with James Rowe

Nicos - Lead O/S - 28/Jan/07 with alex at home

steve taylor - 2007

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Nov/06

Pre-placed gear
John Marsland - Lead β - 07/Oct/06

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/06 with John Marsland

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/06

fizzy_elephant - 2nd O/S - 23/Sep/06 with stu

Only just 'clean onsight'!
Stig - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/06 with Karl Walton

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/06

reg_measures - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/06 with Jorge

Hidden - Solo - May/06

cragdan - 2nd - 16/Apr/06 with Dan Gibson

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/06 with AJ

Hidden - Lead - 16/Apr/06

Hidden - 2006

shark - Solo O/S - 23/Aug/05

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/05

Hidden - 2005

Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 2004 with Alex Mason

Hidden - Lead - Jul/03

Hidden - Lead - 20/Apr/03

Hidden - Lead rpt - 06/Oct/02

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/02

shoulders - Lead - 12/May/02 with joules

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/01

Dave Musgrove Jnr - 2nd - 05/Jun/01 with Joe le Sage

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/00

Rich Malcolm - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/00 with Matt Brennan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/99

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Dec/97

ste_d - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/97 with mik

Hidden - 1997

ChrisJD - Lead - 03/Nov/96 with TimSp

mikedelderfield - 2nd O/S - 16/May/96 with Steven Delderfield

daprince - Jun/92

Roget - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/91 with colin

Neil R - Lead - 13/May/90 with Sharon

Hidden - 1990

John Marsland - 2nd - 30/Apr/89 with Dave Mould

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Nov/88

charlesmfrench - 2nd O/S - 18/May/86

Tom V - 1986

stp - Solo O/S - 02/Oct/83

Mark Kemball - 2nd - 13/Feb/82 with Dave Abbey

Andy Fielding - 2nd - 1981

babymoac - Lead - 01/Jun/80 with MTW

Mark Kemball - Solo - 23/Feb/80

David Smith - Lead - 1980 with Dave Booth

Nigel Bond - Lead - 23/May/78 with Martin Crosby

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Jul/77

Hidden - Lead - 10/Jul/77

Derek Ryden - Lead O/S - 1976 with Glynne Andrew

Plus several other routes on Froggat and Curbar
Dave Musgrove - 11/Oct/70

mikej - Lead - 01/Sep/67 with John Lee

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