Predator* E2 5c
[Me - avoiding the crack as usual, 3 kb]13m. The thin crack on the right is rather unsatisfying. The bulge is the crux (knee-bar rest) and although the ledges on the right are difficult to avoid, you have got to try! © ROCKFAX
FA. John Allen 1976

Ticklists: Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, The Froggatt to Black Rocks into E2 smile list, Peak Rock/7/8/Biven-Peck Partnership/1950's a Developing Decade.

Photo: Me - avoiding the crack as usual © Mick r
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This climb is in 105 logbooks, and on 5 wishlists.

Fell on crux. Popped nut, rope caught leg and flipped me. Just a bruised arm but so close to smashing my head. Round 2 coming soon. Johnny fell on the same move so I dont feel too bad.
Clemmo - Lead dnf - 28/Oct/14 with Johnny

C1 practise
ashtond6 - Lead - 13/Oct/14

smashing route, didnt notice the proxsimity of the other wall while i was climbing, two strars from me
Andy Peak 1 - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/14

soph - 2nd rpt - 05/Oct/14 with Sam Ring, Tony Stone

WillDoyle - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/14

was probably a bit ambitious given that I climb HVS. It looked easy from the ground. Managed to get to just below the bulge then escaped right.
andy.smythe - Lead dnf - 04/Aug/14

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/14 with Lena, Maisy, Ben Ochner

Hidden - 2nd dog - 05/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/May/14

Goose4 - Lead β - 08/Mar/14 with Charlotte King, Tom Adams, Euan McKendrick

Chris M - AltLd - 2014 with John B

mike mo - 2014

Tim M - Lead dog - 11/Aug/13 with Richard W

leeds_belle - 2nd dog - 27/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead dog - 24/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 11/Nov/12

ian caton - 2nd β - 15/Sep/12 with alex

Hidden - Lead dog - 13/Sep/12

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 08/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead dog - 08/Aug/12

hippymagic - 2nd dnf - 03/Jul/12 with Rob, Pete Barrass

Hidden - 2nd dog - 10/Jun/12

mark20 - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/12

Hidden - Lead β - 27/Nov/11

Nearly got it clean, one fall.
Martin Haworth - Lead dog - 19/Nov/11 with Andy

Andrew Sloan - 2nd dog - 19/Nov/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11

tonanf - TR - 2011

The initial crack is no walkover and calls for a decisive approach. The crux is also pretty stiff, particularly as the rest is not that great. Would be worth two stars if it wasn't so close to the side wall. Su did well to get as far as standing up on the first good hold in the crack but struggled to finger torque with her injured finger. On the abseil recovered a jammed nut from just below the crux - took quite a bit of hammering with a large hex to get it out.
Misha - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/10 with Su

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Oct/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/10

Seymore Butt - 2010

slacky - 2nd O/S - 17/Oct/09 with Ben Abell

Hidden - Lead - 10/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/09

Very tough, dogged it, but a real quality route.
Martin Haworth - Lead dog - 26/Apr/09 with Mick r

Both had a go with Martin finishing when I couldn't get the last section. Esier after Martin spotted the hidden hold at the back of the flared crack at the top
Mick r - AltLd dog - 26/Apr/09 with Martin

Hidden - Lead - 14/Mar/09

DaveFidler - TR O/S - 2009

Fell a couple of times at the roof/bulge, but worked it out in the end. Rockfax says the route is 'rather unsatisfying'! I thought it was a cracker. Also, wasted time and effort trying to find the alleged 'knee-bar rest' without success.
DavidR - Lead dog - 17/Aug/08 with Holly Adamthwaite

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Aug/08

Brown - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/08 with Henry

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/08

Hidden - Lead dog - Apr/08

Sean Kelly - 2008

jimbonfire - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/07

shark - Lead - 14/Jan/07 with Keith Sharples

Hidden - TR dog - 15/Aug/06

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/06 with helen gibson

Hidden - 2006

shoulders - Lead - 18/Sep/05 with mike shewring

Hidden - Lead dog - 17/Jul/04

Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - 2004

Rik Dawes - Lead O/S - 2004

Hidden - 2nd - Jun/03

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 22/Mar/03 with Phil Bent

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/01

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Jun/01

Hidden - Lead - 30/May/01

Hidden - Lead - 16/Sep/00

Hidden - Lead - 27/Jul/00

Hidden - 2000

Hidden - 2000

Fell from last move, leg caught around rope & flipped upside down under overhang. Hit wall with head and knocked myself out for a few secs. Lucky I had a helmet on. Soloed Kayak after to make sure I hadn't lost bottle.
marcoleptic - Lead dnf - 2000 with Ben

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Aug/99

Hidden - Lead dog - 09/May/99

ChrisJD - Lead - 04/Jun/98 with AlB

Hidden - 2nd dog - 12/May/98

Colin Edwards - 2nd - 1998 with Simon Gough Brown

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Mar/97

craig d - 1997

ste_d - Lead O/S - 16/May/96 with mik

mikedelderfield - 2nd O/S - 16/May/96 with Steven Delderfield

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/96

Roget - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/95 with jon

Hidden - Lead RP - 06/Jun/95

Hidden - Lead - 27/Jul/94

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/94

Neil R - 2nd - 08/Oct/93 with Richard W

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 03/Oct/93

Hidden - Lead - 08/Aug/93

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/93

ChrisJD - 2nd - 06/Jun/93

charlesmfrench - Lead O/S - 12/May/93 with Keith Milne, Ian Milne

rob.grafton - Lead - 27/Sep/92 with Bruce

Laramadness - TR - 16/Sep/92

Tony Little - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/92 with Merk

Hidden - Lead - 01/Aug/92

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/90

Hidden - 1990

tapley - 2nd - 18/Nov/89

Backinthegame - 2nd - 09/Apr/89

Hidden - Lead dog - 31/Mar/88

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Aug/87

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jun/87

Bruce Kerr - Lead - 14/Apr/87 with Neville Elstone

probably with john robinson seconding
David Smith - Lead - 1984

stp - 2nd - 12/Jul/83

Hammy - 2nd - 28/Mar/82 with Fai Kwong

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jun/81

Andy Fielding - 2nd - 1981 with Steve Hartland

Hidden - Lead - 1981

andy gittins - 1972

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