Velvet Cracks HS 4b
8m. The thin crack in the right side of the slab is pleasant and popular despite being a bit of an eliminate. It is well protected. © ROCKFAX
FA. Ernie Marshall 1963
PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 367 logbooks, and on 4 wishlists.

quickdrawmcraw - Lead - 02/Nov/14 with liz osbourn

Deezel65 - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/14 with Cragtyke

cragtyke - 2nd - 27/Sep/14 with Ross

Nice well protectable cracks
royle883 - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/14

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Sep/14

zzee83 - Lead - 14/Sep/14 with Steve

wyzfen - 2nd O/S - 13/Sep/14

stratandrew - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/14 with Dave Wylie

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/14

mrginna - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/14 with lukebamforth

planetmarshall - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/14 with Helen Mort

Marmoset - 2nd O/S - 29/Jul/14

PanzerHanzler - 2nd - 27/Jul/14 with John Buchan

magik_bob - Lead - 26/Jul/14

OllyT - 2nd O/S - 05/Jun/14

Curlyhelen - 2nd - 18/May/14 with Leon

ju59 - 2nd - 18/May/14 with Leon

Hidden - Solo - 05/May/14

hotfeet - Lead - 05/May/14 with James

jason smeeth - 2nd - 05/May/14 with StuartP

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/May/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/14

eduardo - 2nd rpt - 03/May/14

mol - 2nd - 19/Apr/14 with Jesse

darrencabowabo - Lead - 15/Apr/14

Slipped while fiddling stuck gear out. I'll do it clean next time found the route easy with better skills.
Marmoset - 2nd dog - 15/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead - 08/Apr/14

Hidden - Solo - Apr/14

dr_botnik - 2nd - 17/Mar/14 with Conrad

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Mar/14

Jonathan Hall - Solo - 09/Mar/14

Z-clip on first bits of gear. Climbed down, sorted it out (cheers BP) and climbed up without further drama)
Andysomething - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/13 with Bruce Perry, Norman Bennett

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/13

cdpuk - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/13 with Richard Barnes, Lucy Evans

KLucy - 2nd - 26/Aug/13 with Chris Peka aka BF

Nice route but way too short
alp79 - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/13 with Rosa, Jonny Ashton

ashtond6 - 2nd O/S - 18/Aug/13

James Oakes - Solo O/S - 14/Jul/13 with Keith Poskitt, Trish Darling

Legs - Solo O/S - 14/Jul/13

rohai545 - Lead - 05/Jul/13 with Helen

ht543 - 2nd - 05/Jul/13 with Krish

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 16/Jun/13

hazeysunshine - Lead β - 09/Jun/13 with Joan

mapperley samurai - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13 with Ben Moss

darrencabowabo - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/13

MikeDowsett - 2nd - 05/Jun/13 with Tony Fidler

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13

jimbonfire - 26/May/13

Charley's lead. Glad he did it. Foot placements are quite polished and if you can't reach the nice finger holds then it feels quite tenuous!
valentinesbabe - 2nd O/S - 22/May/13 with Charley Fell, Kevin Tithe

Tithe Technique - TR O/S - 22/May/13 with Angela Paul, Charley Fell

Hidden - Lead - 12/May/13

I lead followed by Cherelle who cleaned gear for Tom to do a onsight lead which I seconded to remove gear (see logbook).
MPSBunny - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with Cherelle Fielding

Tom lead up and I seconded to get the gear. He used my belay from the previous lead (see logbook).
MPSBunny - 2nd - 06/May/13 with Tom Luff

hipyhop - Lead β - 06/May/13 with Ben

slacky - Solo rpt - 06/May/13 with Giulia Forlati, Chris Saunders

ajc - Solo rpt - 05/May/13

helios - Lead - 02/May/13 with Katy Coutts

RFWilkie - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/13 with James

theandthem - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/13

Thinker01 - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/13 with Becster

becster - Lead - 28/Apr/13 with Mark_Day

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Apr/13

brownie mike - Lead - 27/Apr/13

Rob84 - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/13 with Lou Ramsden, Tim Ashlin

Technical. Shame about the route next door being close enough to touch.
Jimbo C - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/13

Can you use the crack on the right for your feet? Tried not to but its so polished I assume it must be OK
Babika - 2nd - 20/Apr/13 with Kiwi Pete

cem - Solo rpt - 13/Apr/13

Worth a stab if your there. Quite short lived.
R2B - Solo O/S - 07/Apr/13

DBoothroyd - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/13 with Chris Marsden

steep and fingery, ow.
Tanya Savage - 2nd - 03/Mar/13 with Neil Pacey

Neil Pacey - Lead O/S - 03/Mar/13 with Tanya Savage

kwaidy - 2nd - 23/Feb/13 with sting

sting - Lead O/S - 23/Feb/13 with kwaidy

Marmoset - 2nd dog - 2013

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/12

UnkArl - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12 with Christina, Debbie

Hidden - Lead rpt - 20/Oct/12

HS in BMC guide. Nice pair of cracks, with great protection. HS more accurate I think.
climbingrev - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/12 with Tim Angell

Jake Young - Solo O/S - 02/Sep/12

franhammond92 - Lead - 02/Sep/12

JHiley - 2nd - 02/Sep/12

Mike Bayley - 2nd - 12/Aug/12 with John Sellars

Ceridwen - Solo O/S - 07/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead - 22/Jul/12

Hard start. one guide says HS 4b, the other VS 4b?? not sure on this one.....good gear but I was never felt very secure.
SGD - Lead - 22/Jul/12 with Vicky Holmes, Rob Gray

RichyBOYY - Lead - 15/Jul/12 with Rob Caesar

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead - 27/May/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/May/12

alex thackway - 2nd - 25/May/12 with Dave m

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/May/12

Barry D - Lead - 22/May/12 with Juan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/May/12

chrisbussell - Solo - 15/May/12

al123 - Solo O/S - 12/May/12

Nick Rundall - Solo O/S - 06/May/12 with Leon Skeldon

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/May/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/12

Bry - 2nd β - 05/May/12 with Caroline

Failed to lead it - fell off twice. Desperate !
Jules Lane - 2nd dog - May/12 with Mynydd Barry

disturbed_one51 - Solo - 08/Apr/12

HB1 - 2nd rpt - 01/Apr/12 with KB

Hidden - Lead rpt - 01/Apr/12

Jen 'Banksy' Banks - TR O/S - Apr/12 with Stefan

Nordie_matt - 2nd O/S - 26/Dec/11 with Matt JM Stevens

Matt JM Stevens - Lead - 26/Dec/11

lozowen - Solo O/S - 18/Nov/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/11

Milne - 2nd rpt - 25/Oct/11 with Dave

Whealiebob - Lead rpt - 25/Oct/11 with Dave Saxby, Terry

PeteArcher - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/11

oddessy_uk - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/11

charley - 2nd O/S - 30/Sep/11 with Clare

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Sep/11

tompilgrem - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/11 with Dad

bobpilgrem - 22/Aug/11 with Bob/Tom

Gets harder at top but good holds throughout.
wishicud climbHVS - Solo - 28/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead rpt - 12/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11

Hidden - Solo O/S - 02/Jul/11

Andy37 - Lead dnf - 02/Jul/11

slacky - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11 with Andes

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Jun/11

gavinpeach - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/11 with Jonathan

Barry D - Lead - 01/Jun/11 with Paul J

JEP - 2nd - 01/Jun/11

Brannock - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/11

Jim Malo - 2nd rpt - 21/May/11 with Mark

Hidden - 2nd - 15/May/11

Jim Malo - Lead O/S - 14/May/11

Adrian Daniels - 2nd - 01/May/11 with John Parrott

Braintax - 2nd - 29/Apr/11

Good climbing for such a short route, nice and positive all the way up. Thought I might find it hard only having partial use of my right foot :-)
embob - 2nd - 24/Apr/11 with Alex

Hidden - Lead - 24/Apr/11

Roberttaylor - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/11 with Rose Tupling and Sebastian Schwabl

Harry Holmes - Solo O/S - 23/Apr/11 with Clement

climbing_wiggy - 2nd β - 17/Apr/11 with Leon

Lenny - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Paul

Pretty tough climb with a few good hand pockets, not my type of climb.
ElBarto - 2nd O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Joseph Toller

Got near the top then decided to lower off a piece of gear to place another one further down for someone else to lead with in-place gear then the top one popped out, ground fall.
ElBarto - Lead dnf - 10/Apr/11 with Anthony Ward

jo86 - Lead - 10/Apr/11 with Neil Nand

martin one - Lead rpt - 10/Apr/11 with dave knight

pete1993 - 2nd - 02/Apr/11

metal arms - Solo O/S - 27/Mar/11

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Mar/11

Dave Mason - Solo O/S - 23/Mar/11

john lynch - Solo O/S - 06/Mar/11 with Neil Elmore

Hidden - Solo - 05/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Feb/11

mwatson - 2011

gingerwolf - Lead O/S - 11/Dec/10

jdgaventa - Lead - 10/Oct/10 with katy

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Oct/10

RalphC - Lead - 25/Sep/10 with Ali

ElvisLeg - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/10 with Lee Harris

Steve J P - Lead - 05/Sep/10 with BW

Bernie Wylde - 2nd - 05/Sep/10 with sp

DaveFidler - Solo O/S - 01/Sep/10 with Thomas Welch, Arron Quinn

payeo20 - 2nd - 29/Aug/10

Tala M - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/10 with Rich

simeclimb68 - 2nd rpt - 22/Aug/10 with Ander

Ander - Lead - 22/Aug/10 with simeclimb68

ajc - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10

Ivan Muckle - Lead - 17/Jul/10

Howard J - 2nd rpt - 11/Jul/10 with Jeff Burgum

Scott McRae - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/10 with Barry fatbuoy McRobb, Wavey Davey

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Jul/10

fatbuoybazza - 2nd rpt - 04/Jul/10 with Scotty Mc, daveyw

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/10

SteWatkins - Jul/10

CharlieC - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/10 with Kirsty

Hidden - Lead - 12/Jun/10

George Ormerod - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/10 with Old Roger

Excellent. Better than Apple Arete.
andrea83 - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/10 with Peak CC, Saffra

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/10

hazeysunshine - 2nd - 31/May/10 with Dave

John Pickles - Solo O/S - 25/May/10 with Kieran Hodgson

mattyork2 - Solo - 23/May/10

Graeme Hammond - Solo O/S - 16/May/10

Blisco - Lead - 15/May/10 with David Sim

rfdl100 - Lead O/S - 15/May/10

Phil West - Lead rpt - 03/May/10 with Shaun Walby

climbed as third with ed and titch, recalled pretty good gear and no problems on route
Joe Noake - 2nd O/S - 02/May/10 with Ed Throp

Thought I was going to take a fall off this one. Placed a small nut and then pulled it through, started to tire whilst finding the right size for the placement. Nice route with plenty of opportunity to put gear in.
Ed Throp - Lead O/S - 02/May/10 with joe noake

Troy Tempest - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/10

migs493 - Solo O/S - 17/Apr/10 with LO

Hidden - TR O/S - 17/Apr/10

First VS lead. Seconded it first, then lead it.
ptigga - Lead RP - 17/Apr/10 with Richard

Foot greased off a small hold on the crux. Very annoyed as the next hold was a bucket :(
graphiclunarkid - Lead dog - 17/Apr/10 with ptigga

Had another crack on second after dogging my lead attempt. Nearly came off at the same point but managed to hang on. There must be a better way!
graphiclunarkid - 2nd rpt - 17/Apr/10 with ptigga

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/10

popebenedictus - 16/Apr/10 with Adrian Scott

adrianscott - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/10 with Ben Harding

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/10

staceyjg - 2nd O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Chris Gardner

Hidden - Solo - 11/Apr/10

minaturechris - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Stacey

co1ps - Solo - 04/Apr/10 with noodle the labradoodle

paul__in_sheffield - Solo O/S - 04/Apr/10 with Noodle

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/10

powellj69 - Lead - 21/Mar/10

stefie c - 2nd - 21/Mar/10 with John Powell

nickcanute - 2010

Monoaffe - Lead O/S - 2010

rg1976 - 2nd O/S - 21/Nov/09 with davidwright, Deepash

davidwright - Lead rpt - 21/Nov/09

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/09 with liv_the_div

Philsy - 2nd - 20/Sep/09 with Liv, Baz

Richard Hill - 2nd O/S - 19/Sep/09 with Max

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/09

Started raining, rock slippy so dogged it.
howhard - 2nd dog - 30/Aug/09 with Martin Ford

Stig - 2nd O/S - 29/Aug/09 with Jonathan Teale

doogstrue - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/09 with phil & andy

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Aug/09

dangerousoldfool - 2nd O/S - Aug/09 with CarlT

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Jul/09

Hidden - Lead rpt - 12/Jul/09

Neil Rodgers (PCC) - 2nd O/S - 11/Jun/09

Rampikino - Lead - 31/May/09 with Cat and Shirley

nice route.
Milne - 2nd O/S - 24/May/09 with Steve poole

Hidden - 23/May/09

davidwright - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/09 with Sam

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Apr/09

Jon Dittman - Solo - 22/Apr/09

markytaylor - 2nd O/S - 27/Mar/09 with andy

Hidden - Lead rpt - 27/Mar/09

mark20 - 2nd rpt - 21/Mar/09

jcurley - 2nd O/S - 18/Mar/09 with Mike Buddle

dan gibson - Solo O/S - 18/Mar/09 with AJ

Hidden - Solo O/S - 15/Mar/09

AJ007 - Solo - 13/Mar/09

keith leonard - 2009

Zoomer - Lead - 19/Oct/08 with Julia Bloomer

Hidden - TR - 19/Oct/08

Jules 210681 - 2nd - 19/Oct/08 with glenn bloomer

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Oct/08

Hidden - Lead rpt - 14/Sep/08

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 30/Aug/08

tskelhon - Solo - 27/Aug/08

mintcake - 2nd - 24/Jul/08 with John Kelly

skittles - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/08 with Andy Hext

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Jul/08

Good layback moves on thin flakes.
mark20 - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/08

tiga271 - 2nd - 13/Jul/08 with mark20

Hidden - Jul/08

donkster - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/08

Hidden - Lead dog - 24/Jun/08

ok
markbenton - 2nd - 24/Jun/08 with ggawthrope

Brown - Solo O/S - 23/Jun/08 with Bridget

Kirill - 2nd - 22/Jun/08 with Paul Bolton, Lara

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Jun/08

Grimbough - Lead - 14/Jun/08 with Jo Burke

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/08

Oceanic - 11/Jun/08

Hidden - TR - 25/May/08

Pilch - 2nd - 24/May/08 with Graham

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/May/08

Hidden - 2nd - 23/May/08

One fall on the first move crux, damnit. Good fun though (everybody likes a layback). Right hand in the right hand crack, left hand in the left hand crack. Worth a revisit?
wwykeham - 2nd dog - 18/May/08 with Paul Dickenson

paul_d - Lead O/S - 18/May/08 with Will Wykeham

victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 10/May/08 with Jim

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 26/Apr/08

Trust your footholds, they are a bit polished and rounded, but stick quite well
angleseykayaker - Solo O/S - 20/Mar/08

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Hannah Moulton - Lead - 2008 with Rob Middleton

LoopyLou - Lead - 2008 with Helen Lear

alek - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/07 with Petr Klus

zard - 2nd - 03/Nov/07 with Alek Kumar

Hidden - Lead - 01/Nov/07

SecretSquirrel - 2nd - 06/Oct/07 with Jon_nz

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/07

Slipped off the shiny holds at the bottom. Nice once I got back on
Howard J - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/07 with Jim Dewhurst

Sidekick - Solo O/S - 10/Jul/07

TobyA - Solo rpt - 02/May/07

steve.aisthorpe - Lead O/S - May/07 with myles plant

Hidden - 2nd - May/07

Hidden - Lead rpt - 20/Apr/07

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/07 with Dave Moir

cia05js - Lead O/S - Apr/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - Mar/07

steve taylor - 2007

Pete Horn - 2007 with Mark

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/06

Ron - TR - Sep/06 with Scott, Jeff, Chris

Sankey - Lead O/S - 09/May/06 with Stuart

FrankW - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/06 with Joe

JohnHutch - 2nd - 24/Apr/06 with L

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/06

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Apr/06

Ropeboy - Solo - 18/Sep/05

baldcoder - Lead O/S - 28/May/05 with Little Old Lady

Si dH - 2nd RP - 15/May/05 with Duncan Morrison

Alfredo - Lead - May/05

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 19/Sep/04

Whealiebob - 2nd - 06/Jun/04 with Stee

bigphil - Solo O/S - 06/Jun/04 with Nick

BigToe - Lead - 06/Jun/04 with Whealiebob

mikej - 2nd - 18/May/04 with Rick Naylor

Hidden - Lead - 25/Apr/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/04

Sam and will - Lead O/S - Apr/04 with Anthony Bennett

tommy82 - Lead O/S - 21/Jan/04

Hidden - Lead rpt - 05/Oct/03

Simon Caldwell - 2nd rpt - 03/Aug/03 with Carmen

rob wmc - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/03 with Pete

roverhead - 2nd - 04/May/03

Phil West - Lead - 19/Apr/03 with David Atherton

SteveM - Lead - 13/Apr/03 with Rich K

angleseykayaker - Lead - 10/Apr/03 with Paul Griffiths

tradguy - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/03 with Phil Loasby

Monk - Lead O/S - 2003

julian allen - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/02

cem - Solo O/S - 23/Jun/02

Hidden - Lead rpt - 19/Jun/02

DerwentDiluted - Solo - 11/Jun/02

Hidden - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/02

Nice lead,area quite green.
mungo - Lead dog - 03/Mar/02 with Liz Ireland

Simon Caldwell - TR O/S - 2002 with Carmen

Sam and will - 2nd - 03/Jul/01 with Anthony Bennett

John Marsland - Solo - 09/Apr/00

Hidden - Solo rpt - 09/Apr/00

Marti999 - Lead - 2000

rocktigger - Lead O/S - 2000 with Clare

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/Aug/99

Hidden - Lead - Aug/99

Brian Rodgers - Solo O/S - 22/Jul/99

Hidden - Solo - 03/Jul/99

Roget - Solo O/S - 13/Sep/98

DafSWMC - Lead O/S - Aug/98

Hidden - Lead rpt - 19/May/98

Martyn - Lead O/S - 1998 with Shaun Hodgkins

chris sm - Solo O/S - Jul/97 with Dom Goodridge

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 13/Apr/97

crater - Solo β - 10/Nov/96

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/96

Yourlead - 2nd - 12/Jun/95 with Stephan Liudbloun

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/May/95

Hidden - Solo - 08/May/95

Laramadness - Solo - 09/Apr/95

Rog Wilko - Lead - May/93 with Debbie Wilkinson

babymoac - Lead - 17/May/92 with James Crampton

Iain Thow - Solo - 28/May/91

Hidden - Solo - 28/Apr/91

Raggar - Lead - 06/May/90 with Steve B

tapley - 16/Apr/90

steve prior - Lead - Jan/90 with Rob W

Ena - Lead - 1990

Andy Say - Solo - 25/Nov/89

goi.ashmore - Solo O/S - 06/Aug/89

Hidden - Solo - 29/May/86

Hidden - Solo - 27/Apr/86

Hidden - 1986

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Oct/85

charlesmfrench - Solo O/S - 19/Jul/85

Billg - Lead O/S - 24/May/85 with Dave Gregory

Hidden - 2nd - 1985

mark-abz - TR - 31/Aug/83

Hidden - Solo - 11/Jul/81

Hidden - Solo - 30/Mar/80

Hidden - Solo - 30/Mar/80

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Lead - 1979

Mark Kemball - Solo - 26/Nov/78

Nigel Bond - Lead - 20/Nov/77 with Tony Cuddy

mikej - Solo - 24/Oct/76

mikej - Solo - 18/Apr/71 with E

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Voting
Total votes cast 165
hard VS0 of 61
VS36 of 61
easy VS18 of 61
hard HS6 of 61
HS1 of 61
easy HS0 of 61
hard S0 of 61
S0 of 61
easy S0 of 61
hard 4c0 of 57
4c2 of 57
easy 4c21 of 57
hard 4b8 of 57
4b23 of 57
easy 4b2 of 57
hard 4a1 of 57
4a0 of 57
easy 4a0 of 57
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