Gun-Cotton Groove* VD
12m. The grassy crack and shallow groove is a good beginner's climb, being well protected. One or two of the blocks wobble. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Eastern Peak Grit 100 VD- VS, All trad climbs at Birchen Edge.

PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 385 logbooks, and on 1 wishlist.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/14

kb273 - Lead - 11/Oct/14 with Ersun Kurtulus

summerse - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/14 with Charli Wisbey

Charli Wisbey - Lead - 05/Oct/14 with Elwyn

Pero - Lead - 15/Sep/14

OllyT - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/14

nation1 - 2nd - 27/Aug/14 with Olly

OliverRoss - Solo O/S - 07/Aug/14

Nick1812P - Solo O/S - 24/Jul/14

Mayaculpa - Solo - 29/Jun/14 with dbm

Hidden - Solo O/S - 29/Jun/14

robblowen - Solo O/S - 12/Jun/14 with Joe Wakefield

JoeWakefield - Solo - 12/Jun/14 with Rob Blowen

Deezel65 - Lead O/S - 05/May/14 with Alex Burton-Keeble

ACBK - 2nd O/S - 05/May/14 with Ross Keeble

Curlyhelen - Lead - 03/May/14 with Rosa

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/14

Blueso - Solo - 02/May/14 with Felipe Wigster, Jezz, Anna

Hidden - Solo - May/14

Jonny M - 2nd O/S - 21/Apr/14 with Karen Chalmers

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/14

jamesclimbing - Solo - 19/Apr/14

JamesRoddie - Solo O/S - 15/Apr/14

Blueso - Solo O/S - 13/Apr/14 with Anna

phildawson - 2nd O/S - 13/Apr/14 with Magda Bo

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead - 05/Apr/14

beeney - TR - 05/Apr/14

Mic22 - 2014

TCarrick - Lead - 10/Nov/13

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Sep/13

Nick F Smith - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/13 with Becky

GregBristol - 2nd - 01/Sep/13 with Lynsie Whyke, Andy Spacie

shumidrives - Lead - 01/Sep/13 with GregBristol

Dan Vaj - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Amanda Vajzovic

teamrob - 2nd - 06/Jul/13 with Dan

rohai545 - Lead - 02/Jul/13 with Ross Morton

andy.smythe - 2nd - 02/Jul/13

adamashcroft - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/13

Dave Mason - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/13

dpiddock - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/13 with James C

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/13

Jim Brownlow - Solo O/S - 02/Jun/13 with Steve Harby

Also seconded after
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - Solo - 31/May/13 with Paul Davies

daviesp2 - Lead - 31/May/13 with Tom

martin one - 2nd rpt - 21/Apr/13 with Nick

Pleasant easy route, don't go to far into that crack!
ElBarto - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/13 with Hannah Saunders

davepotter2011 - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/13 with Mat Tebb

ClareG - 2nd - 20/Apr/13

Eagertom - Solo O/S - 08/Apr/13

John Brayshaw - 2nd rpt - 07/Apr/13 with Chris

Hidden - Lead - 07/Apr/13

BusyLizzie - TR - 06/Apr/13 with Graham and Oliver

AlanPedrick - 2013

Hidden - Lead - 18/Nov/12

kcollender - 2nd - 18/Nov/12

edordead - Lead - 03/Nov/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Oct/12

AndyPagett - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/12 with Maia Hunnex

ian2707 - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/12 with Pete

scree - 16/Sep/12 with Ingo

Mike Bayley - 2nd rpt - 16/Sep/12 with Lee Attwater & Neil Armstrong

Hidden - Solo - 10/Sep/12

Alan James - UKC and UKH - 2nd - 09/Sep/12 with Sam James

Sam James-Louwerse - Lead - 09/Sep/12 with Alan James - UKC

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead - 18/Aug/12

mapperley samurai - 2nd - 12/Aug/12 with Alex Moss, Ben Moss, John Cook, Rachel Moss

kyaizawa - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Jun Aizawa, Satoko Aizawa

SattyA - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Jun Aizawa, Ky Aizawa

cem - Solo O/S - 05/Aug/12

JenDear - Lead O/S - Aug/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Jul/12

Andysomething - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/12 with Bruce Perry

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/12

Wayne S - Lead - 20/Jul/12

Curlyhelen - 2nd - 01/Jul/12 with Mary

nick ferro - 01/Jul/12 with toolboxtim

Mike Bayley - 2nd rpt - 01/Jul/12 with Neil Armstrong

Hidden - Lead - 01/Jul/12

hazeysunshine - Lead O/S - 27/May/12 with Val P

David Robinson - Lead - 27/May/12

Hidden - Solo O/S - 20/May/12

Hidden - Solo - 21/Apr/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/12

Derek Furze - Solo - 01/Apr/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/12

ian storey - Solo O/S - 24/Mar/12 with carol storey

jwa - 2nd - 24/Mar/12 with Rob Smith

Hidden - Solo O/S - 16/Mar/12

Colin3859 - 2nd O/S - 11/Mar/12 with allen gibson

Allen3859 - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/12 with Colin Bushell

kb273 - Lead O/S - 03/Mar/12

JJB - 2nd - 01/Mar/12 with Mark Williams

AMJ098 - 2nd O/S - 25/Feb/12 with Jenna mckeer, Robin Wilson

jennamsmile - TR - 25/Feb/12 with Adam Jordan, Robin Wilson

robinmuzette - Lead O/S - 25/Feb/12 with Jenna Mckeer, Adam Jordan, Jenna Mckeer, Adam Jordan

big djw - Lead - 2012

PAJames - 2012

Chris Hind - 2012

Hidden - Solo O/S - 14/Oct/11

chrisanderson - Lead - 14/Oct/11

gronbech - Solo O/S - 25/Sep/11 with Robin & Edward

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/11

Gazleah - Solo rpt - 17/Sep/11 with serge

BethM - 2nd - 15/Sep/11 with Tom Wilson, Charley Smallwood

Mark Salter - 2nd - 08/Sep/11 with Gareth Lewis

Pete Randall - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/11 with Richard B

philip1984 - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/11 with Mike Hegarty

kfv - Solo O/S - 21/Aug/11

jack adams - 14/Aug/11

JamieSparkes - Solo O/S - 19/Jul/11 with solo

Hidden - Solo - 18/Jul/11

Mike Bayley - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/11 with John Sellars & Cathy Burgess

Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11 with Ellen Cobby

Ellen Cobby - 2nd - 26/Jun/11 with Adam Booth

climbing_wiggy - Lead rpt - 25/Jun/11 with Mary

mary - 2nd - 25/Jun/11 with Paul

schristophersmith - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/11 with silas feaver

althesin - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with schristophersmith

Variety of nice moves available
consmith2 - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11

chrisanderson - 2nd - 04/Jun/11

ronmcdonald - TR O/S - Jun/11

liamoloughlin - Solo O/S - 28/May/11

georgenvk - Lead O/S - 20/May/11 with martina

Claire Molloy - Lead O/S - 15/May/11 with Noelle

NoelleG - 2nd - 15/May/11 with Claire Molloy

Sam..Oliver - 2nd - 26/Apr/11

stpauliblade - Lead - 26/Apr/11

Hidden - Solo O/S - 16/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 26/Mar/11

Tithe Technique - Solo rpt - 19/Mar/11

Previously toproped with a sprained ankle
valentinesbabe - Solo rpt - 19/Mar/11 with Kevin Tithe

much better than it looks. I didn't find anything that wobbled
pippa_g - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/11 with Graeme

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 31/Oct/10 with Helen Odwell

tiga271 - 2nd - 30/Oct/10 with Chrissy

chrissy - Lead - 30/Oct/10 with tiga271

mattwyles1 - Solo - 02/Oct/10 with Ellie, Joe

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/10

cloneragan - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/10

AndyPagett - TR - 05/Sep/10 with Kat Shooter, Laura Quinby, Adam Mitchell

Gazleah - Solo O/S - Sep/10 with dprctr

Hidden - Lead - 30/Aug/10

shepman - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/10 with Chris Meadows

charley - Solo O/S - 28/Aug/10 with Luke, Ange, Peter, Kev

Tithe Technique - Solo O/S - 28/Aug/10 with Luke Paul, Peter Ziak, Angela Paul, Charley Fell

Ramblin dave - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Gareth

Hidden - Solo O/S - 19/Aug/10

I discovered that a large block which should provide useful handholds and footholds was very loose - avoiding using this puts it up a grade.
Howard J - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/10 with Jeff Burgum

oddessy_uk - Solo O/S - 01/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/10

soloed route and placed gear for johns first lead
climbing_wiggy - Solo O/S - 31/Jul/10 with John Hayden

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Jul/10

dishevelled - Lead - 17/Jul/10

howlingbaboon - Solo rpt - 29/Jun/10

edd rab - Solo rpt - 24/Jun/10

Michelle Piper - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/10 with Peter Boniface

pboniface - Lead - 19/Jun/10 with Michelle

aldred - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/10 with Michelle, peter boniface

migs493 - Solo O/S - 04/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/May/10

Followed Bob up after is first ever lead to help him set up the belay, actually a little bit tastier than it looked from the bottom.
jmjw - Solo O/S - 09/May/10 with Bob B

williamsd79 - Lead O/S - 03/May/10

First lead
R_Blackburn - Lead O/S - May/10 with Jamie Weaver

bullybones - Solo - 23/Apr/10

Super easy TR
Dhcol - TR O/S - 20/Apr/10 with Glynn Dignum

t10101 - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/10

thekendo - Solo - 17/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/10

sstanier - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Andy Bailey

Pilch - Solo O/S - 08/Apr/10 with Graham

ill_bill - 2nd - 04/Apr/10

wet!
chris warner - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/10 with Liz Bull

LizBull - 2nd O/S - 02/Apr/10 with Chris Warner

The Mountain Goat - Solo O/S - 21/Mar/10

davidwright - 2nd O/S - 30/Jan/10 with Sam

Hidden - Lead - 30/Jan/10

disturbed_one51 - Solo - 31/Oct/09

jonathan watt - Lead - 26/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead - 19/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead - 18/Oct/09

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 14/Oct/09

SuperstarDJ - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/09 with Steve Blatherwick

Jonathan Hall - Solo - 22/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead - 20/Sep/09

jumpingjimminy - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Ellie

nice easy route no issues
maxkellock - TR O/S - 08/Sep/09

Adam1973 - 2nd O/S - 05/Sep/09 with Dave Wynne

David Wynne - Lead - 05/Sep/09 with Adam Burt

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/09

Neil Rodgers (PCC) - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/09 with Rosa Vilaseca

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/09

RFWilkie - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/09 with Sarah

Night-time headtorch ascent.
Mr. K - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/09 with Julian Watson

Hidden - 2nd β - 12/Aug/09

Hidden - Solo - 07/Aug/09

rubygem - Solo - 07/Aug/09 with toby schofield

Hidden - Solo - 31/Jul/09

asmith37 - 2nd O/S - 25/Jul/09 with Angela Todd

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/09

Nice and easy, first time leading with my wife. Spent to much time concentrating on gear placement early in the climb and fell off!!
dave_whale - Lead RP - 03/Jul/09 with Beverley Whale

Hidden - Solo O/S - 27/Jun/09

KeithW - Solo O/S - 14/Jun/09

Hexman - 2nd - 11/Jun/09 with Hannah

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/May/09

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/May/09

jwpil - Solo O/S - 11/May/09

Hidden - 2nd - 09/May/09

Malcolm Tucker's Sweary Aunt - Lead O/S - 09/May/09 with Phil & Andy

Hidden - Lead - 03/May/09

brought A up no problem
Pilch - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/09 with Annabelle

Hidden - Lead - 18/Apr/09

PondLife - Lead β - 18/Apr/09 with Matthew Fletcher

Rob Barthorpe - 2nd - 18/Apr/09 with Karo

Jo Southall - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09 with Sally Southall

BicepAndrews - Solo - 13/Apr/09

Budge - Solo O/S - 08/Apr/09

sce8 - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Gemma Fisher

Pilch - Solo - 04/Apr/09

practicalcat - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/09 with Adam Carless

adam carless - 2nd rpt - 21/Mar/09 with practicalcat

Benrj - Solo - 18/Mar/09 with jay mowat

Jeronimo - Solo O/S - 18/Mar/09 with Ben Johnson

sadsetts - Lead O/S - 16/Mar/09 with Al

Hidden - Solo O/S - 08/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/09

CJC - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/09 with Matt

CJC - 2nd rpt - 01/Mar/09 with Matt

Hidden - Lead - 01/Mar/09

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Mar/09

B-bop - Lead O/S - Mar/09 with Juan, Francy

robotninja - Lead O/S - 31/Jan/09 with Jen T

Attempted to lead for first time, got half way and couldn't finish. Robotninja finished leading, then I seconded.
Rocker Angel - 2nd - 31/Jan/09 with Robotninja

paul.valentine - Solo O/S - 17/Jan/09 with Graham Jones

Hidden - Lead - 2009

Hidden - 2009

Hidden - 2009

peter myers - Solo - 2009 with Alex May

jonathan watt - Lead - 23/Nov/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Oct/08

HeatherC - 2nd - 09/Oct/08 with Haydn

ianjfsutcliffe - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/08 with Mac

Ian McDermott - 2nd - 04/Oct/08 with Sutts

JamesRich - TR O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Howard Rich, Paul Rich

andybeanland - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/08 with Rachel

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Sep/08

PanzerHanzler - Solo rpt - 20/Aug/08

andi taxi - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/08 with charly fell, laughterton

RiPomc - Lead - 11/May/08 with Julie Cooke & Nick Gardiner

and chris R & GL
staceyjg - Lead O/S - 11/May/08 with Chris Gardner

hmm, slightly bulgy for a v. diff, but enjoyable!
JCookie - 2nd - 11/May/08 with Richard Plater, Nick Gardiner

unfit - Solo - 09/May/08 with matt w

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Apr/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/08

Chris Ellis - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/08 with Colin Imrie

benman - Lead O/S - 12/Jan/08 with rich collings

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

adam carless - Solo O/S - 29/Dec/07

VS4b - 2nd - 17/Nov/07 with paul

Allan Young - 2nd β - 11/Nov/07 with Steve Turner

gibbo38 - 2nd - 04/Nov/07 with gibbo21

gibbo21 - Lead O/S - 04/Nov/07 with paul

popebenedictus - Solo O/S - 03/Nov/07 with Soloed

Whealiebob - Solo O/S - 03/Nov/07

edd rab - Solo O/S - 03/Nov/07

david the bear - 01/Sep/07 with John K

Ben Hollands - Lead - 31/Aug/07 with Wendy Anderson

Pythonist - Solo O/S - 13/Aug/07

LankyPaddy - Solo O/S - 22/Jul/07

Marvino - 2nd - 11/Jul/07 with Rach

An easy lead up a crack and shallow groove.
rachelwheatcroft - Lead - 11/Jul/07 with Marvino

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/May/07

First Lead... bobbins ascent, but made it
EdShep - Lead O/S - 10/May/07 with Pilch

tommo1664 - Solo - 05/May/07

Ruthy lead
howlingbaboon - Solo rpt - 05/May/07 with Ruthy

Hidden - TR O/S - 22/Apr/07

Hidden - TR O/S - 22/Apr/07

BazVee - 22/Apr/07 with Tingers

Hidden - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/07

Col Allott - Lead - 15/Apr/07 with Alex Sturrock

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Apr/07

Graeme Hammond - Solo O/S - 21/Mar/07

PondLife - TR - 16/Mar/07 with John Power

john power - TR - 16/Mar/07 with Jay Power

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/07

HamishD - Solo O/S - 20/Jan/07

Hidden - 2007

spbond - 2nd - 15/Oct/06 with Bobby K

ebunick - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/06 with Lizzie + 3 freshers

Hamster - Solo O/S - 24/Sep/06 with Ian Thurgood

Ian_Whitfield - 2nd O/S - 24/Aug/06 with Abigail Whitfield, Whitty2012

Hidden - Solo O/S - 13/Aug/06

Jacob Ram - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/06 with elisa best

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 29/Jul/06

Neilfrherts - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/06

Stone_donkey - Lead - 16/Jul/06 with my girls

Hidden - Solo - 10/Jul/06

PanzerHanzler - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/06 with David Rafe

Julia Chatterton - Solo - 17/Jun/06

Hidden - Solo O/S - 31/May/06

Mike Turner - Lead - 14/May/06 with Rachel Turner, Dave White

edmitchell - May/06

Alfredo - Solo - May/06

Hidden - Solo O/S - 29/Apr/06

Nice climbing protected by good wires throughout. Not much for the top belay IIRC
davewing - Lead - 12/Apr/06 with Rosie A

mahjongg - 2nd - 02/Apr/06 with Col

Sankey - 2nd - 12/Mar/06 with Andy E

Caralynh - Lead - 04/Feb/06 with Iain Simpson

John Lisle - 2006

mr bounce - 2006

Hidden - Lead - 2006

Hidden - Solo - 2006

Nicos - Solo O/S - 02/Nov/05 with solo

howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - Sep/05 with Neil

Reds - Solo - 19/Aug/05

Hidden - Lead - 06/Aug/05

krikoman - Solo O/S - 31/Jul/05 with Kev Gibbs

rachel959 - TR - 25/Jul/05 with Dan Peach

dp1 - Solo - 20/Jul/05 with dan bell

victim of mathematics - Solo O/S - 09/Jul/05

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Jun/05

extracting runners
Alex Mason - Solo - Jun/05 with andy g

Sankey - Jan/05

Neil Henson - Lead - 2005 with Mark Collins

Hidden - 2005

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Dec/04

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Dec/04

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Oct/04

maria85 - 2nd - 09/Oct/04 with Andy & Ronnie

Pelleas - 2nd - Oct/04 with Tony

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - Oct/04 with SUMC

colin milton - Solo - 27/Sep/04

Hidden - Solo O/S - 15/Aug/04

Chris Davids - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/04 with Bethan

First lead
Nutkey - Lead O/S - May/04

samwelli - Solo O/S - 26/Mar/04

Hidden - Solo - 14/Oct/03

tobydunford - Solo O/S - 17/Aug/03

Hidden - Solo - 21/Jun/03

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 15/Apr/03

JohnHutch - TR - 07/Apr/03 with self belay

jamie ward - Lead O/S - 22/Mar/03 with John Howes

Monk - 2003

Ben lad - 18/Sep/02

Hidden - Solo rpt - 15/Sep/02

Hidden - Solo - 16/Jun/02

Hidden - Solo O/S - 26/May/02

andygreen - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/02

Simon Caldwell - 2nd O/S - 2002 with Carmen

DerwentDiluted - Solo - 08/Sep/01

ajc - Solo O/S - 04/Sep/00

D Berry - 2nd β - 16/Apr/00 with Claire Berry

rocktigger - Solo O/S - Jun/99

CrashMat Rob - Solo - 04/Apr/99 with Nicky

Hidden - Solo RP - 15/Jul/98

ajoliver - Solo O/S - 29/May/98

Rampikino - 2nd - 28/Apr/98

Rampikino - Solo - 18/May/97

Hidden - Solo - 15/Feb/97

crater - Solo - 24/Oct/96

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/96

tlr - Solo - 05/May/96 with Pete D

rurp - 1995

mikej - Lead - 08/Aug/93 with M

Laramadness - Solo O/S - 24/Jul/90

tapley - Solo - Sep/89

Iain Thow - Solo - 14/Sep/87

Hidden - 1987

Hidden - Solo - 06/Sep/86

babymoac - 03/May/86

Hidden - Solo - 01/Oct/82

John Brayshaw - Solo O/S - 01/Sep/82

Ena - Lead - Sep/82 with Martin Trouse

mikej - Lead - 18/Oct/81 with S

1980's
CrashMat Rob - Lead O/S - 1980

Hammy - Solo - 26/Aug/77 with Jonathan Stacey

RichardMc - Solo - 25/Apr/76

petemeads - Solo - 1976

mikej - 20/Apr/75

Andy Say - Solo - 1971

mikej - Solo - 25/Oct/64 with Paul Richardson

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