Sin** VS 4c
[Chris coming across the rising traverse of 'The Flakes', 3 kb]25m. The right-hand groove gives steady, open climbing and bridging, on polished holds, with loads of gear. Amazingly, the route was originally graded Exceptionally Severe. © ROCKFAX
FA. Ron Moseley 1952

Ticklists: Classic Rock Climbs In Northern England by Bill Birket, UK Classic Corners, Peak Rock/6/ The Emergence of Joe Brown and Don Whillans.

Photo: Chris coming across the rising traverse of 'The Flakes' © jon_gill1
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This climb is in 208 logbooks, and on 8 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Sep/14

jimbonfire - 11/Jul/14

With Kyle
Deezel65 - 2nd rpt - 09/Jul/14 with Gareth Hoosen

no single hard move, but no easy ones either. thank God for the solid jams and bridging rests! the wall below has some recent rock scars, is loose as and dodgy. going up the big crack on the l.h.s. might be a better idea?
GermanAlex - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Arno

Hardcore Pat - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/14 with Dr Julie, Dan Osbasabooboo

Different Steve - 2nd rpt - 21/Jun/14 with Jeremy

Previos lead.
jshields - Lead - 18/Jun/14 with Dave Peck, Tony Fidler

Harder than it looks.
petegunn - Lead - 08/Jun/14 with Davina

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/14

ash longreach - Lead - Jun/14 with Chris Hind

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/May/14

Jim Slater - Lead rpt - 15/May/14 with Maia

Phill Mitch - 2nd O/S - 27/Apr/14 with bleggs

Hidden - Lead - 13/Apr/14

Hoyes - 2nd rpt - 23/Mar/14 with Julian L

Nice route, slightly strenuous.
Jules Lane - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/14 with Mynydd James

Batt - 2nd rpt - 23/Mar/14 with Si Coldrick

cragtyke - 2nd - 04/Mar/14 with Ross

No walk in the park
Deezel65 - Lead O/S - 04/Mar/14 with Cragtyke

Hidden - 2014

In spite of the crack the route follows I struggled from time to time placing gear. Big nuts were too small for the main line, far too big for anything else. Still, a good start to the day, and a nice view from the (well protected) belay seat.
Eagertom - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Dan Murray

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Jul/13

1st peak limestone lead good fun
the power - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/13 with deacon

Guy Wilson - 2nd - Apr/13 with Gavin Moy, Rick Cotgreave

blaza1 - 2nd - Apr/13

Hidden - 2013

Seymore Butt - 2013

Tony Kartawick - 2013

Andrew Sloan - 2nd rpt - 18/Nov/12 with Tony Holdsworth

Tony Holdsworth - Lead rpt - 18/Nov/12 with Andy Sloan

treg - 2nd - 08/Sep/12 with Lynsey

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/12

Unlike others, I found the lower wall below the start of the groove enjoyable and protectable, and neither was the climb too polished (especially compared to other routes at Stoney). Very enjoyable sustained VS 4c climbing with a couple of tricky moves around 2/3 of the way.
treg - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/12 with Bird

The only thing that detracted from this route was my seconder complaining that I placed too much gear!!
rich_hw - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/12 with Graeme Hammond

good route but the leader was so unreasonable in wanting to stay safe and the proceeded to placed so much gear I had to take out... unfortunately we got caught in a massive thunder storm on the way down so the one and only route of the evening.
Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 05/Jul/12 with Richard Williams

Fragmod - Lead - 17/Jun/12

cragtyke - 2nd - 17/Jun/12

Hidden - 2nd - 29/May/12

found this a right battle, bit loose and very dirty in places.
Milne - Lead O/S - 29/May/12 with dave saxby

Hedley - Lead O/S - 14/May/12 with Aldred Durham

Hidden - 2nd - 11/May/12

Did direct start and fell off when hold broke on the loose lower section!
Marq - Lead dog - 11/May/12 with Steve Mount

First climb at stoney. Good sustained VS climbing.
David Kay - Lead O/S - 06/May/12 with Dan Lane

Dan Lane - 2nd O/S - 06/May/12 with David Kirsfelds

cballard - 2012

Tony Kartawick - 2012

after this it got dark and the mist came down even lower.
Tony Holdsworth - Lead rpt - 11/Nov/11 with Tom Reed

Si dH - 2nd O/S - 21/Aug/11 with Alison Ingleby

Good, chunky climbing
victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 24/May/11 with Dan Arkle

bigbirdflying - Lead - 23/May/11 with Chris Brook

A really hard but quality VS.
James Oakes - Lead O/S - 21/May/11 with Brad Cowley

mark20 - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/11

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - Mar/11

First 30 ft loose and poorly protected.The main groove is sustained 4c but well protected.
Andrew Sloan - Lead rpt - 04/Feb/11

alasdair19 - 2011

Chris Hind - 2011

cymjt - 2011

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/10

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Sep/10

Hannes B - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/10 with Bella

Hoyes - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/10 with Rachel B

Slippy as... Other than that pretty steady. Didn't seem to have a specific crux just lots of fairly sustained bridging on either glass or tiny edges, use the latter.
Batt - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/10 with James Hoyes

Very good. Lots of gear. Started up the loose bit in front of route which wasn't so good
andrea83 - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/10 with Peak CC

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/10

mattyork2 - 2nd - 01/Jul/10 with Alfie

Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 12/Jun/10

The approach was loose and horrible. The route was sound but found it hard and intimidating so had to take a rest.
lucasp - Lead dog - 12/Jun/10 with kev (lmc)

tobydunford - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/10 with Nick Sillum

Esoterical and I was already pumped...
Oliver Houston - Lead dog - 21/May/10

Phil Jennings - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10 with Anna Jennings, James Moneypenny

TonyF - Lead O/S - 2010

Ken Taylor - 2010

simon1965 - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/09 with paul

Tony Holdsworth - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/09 with Nick Mitchell, Rich Cutsforth

daveclarke5 - Lead - 04/Oct/09 with Andy

howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Wid, Page

Ketu - 2nd O/S - 15/Jul/09 with Graeme H

much better once i went up the the chimney to access the route (is this what the guide ment as the scramble??? its easy enough but not a scramble, previously tried to climb the loose wall directly under the route, almost did but backed off
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/09 with Rob

IAmAStone - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/09 with Charlie Jefferson

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Jun/09

Jonathan Hall - Lead - 02/Jun/09 with Jane Rigby

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 10/May/09

good plenty of intrest all the way to the top
Andy Peak 1 - Lead O/S - 04/May/09 with liebor

An excellent pitch, getting to it is horribly loose though with no meaningful gear.
Pilch - Lead O/S - 02/May/09 with Ed

EdShep - 2nd O/S - 02/May/09 with Pilch

Great route, with a well positioned finish...escaping the polish as well
Sankey - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/09 with Luke

thebigfriendlymoose - 2nd β - 26/Apr/09 with Stephen

keith leonard - Lead - 2009

Well protected but sustained VS - 4c after 4c
Phil1967 - Lead O/S - 23/Oct/08 with Dan

smudge - 2nd rpt - 23/Oct/08 with Phil

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/08

jadm2 - 2nd - 03/Aug/08 with Alan

Month a guess.
Andrew Barker - 2nd O/S - Jul/08 with Jack Symmons

Sustained climbing, fantastic route, not too polished!
smudge - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/08 with Will G

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Feb/08

BenJacobs - 2nd O/S - 10/Feb/08 with Dw

Tough VS. Rested on gear.
Jim Slater - Lead dog - 05/Jan/08 with Alan

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Jan/08

Al Evans - 2008

Alex Thompson - 2nd O/S - 31/Jul/07 with Haydn Martin

Jack Symmons - Lead - Jul/07 with Andy B

Dave Mason - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/07 with Andrew Roach

Neil Adams - 2nd O/S - 10/Jun/07 with Andre & Adrian

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/May/07

climber130887 - Lead O/S - 19/May/07 with dan mathewmann

roberto18 - 2nd - 14/Apr/07 with Dad (Mike Bridges)

Sidekick - Lead O/S - 2007

bigphil - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/06 with Calum

Nicos - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/06 with danny carden

nice route. polished hold in middle. dont bother climbing the loose/grassy stuff below, solo the big crack on the left to the ledge instead, (v,diff).
robin heath - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/06 with Carl Riley

JulesW - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/06 with Nig

cem - 2nd - 26/Feb/06 with Graham Dolman

Ben1983 - Lead O/S - Jun/05

Hidden - 2nd β - 06/Sep/04

dicky79 - Lead O/S - 2004 with Mike Bottomley

The Pylon King - 2nd - Aug/03 with ???????????????

Brown - Lead - Jul/03 with Jessika

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Jun/03

One rest after the crux. Too early for this!
Phil West - Lead - 18/Apr/03 with Chris Tan

SteveM - Lead - 01/Mar/03 with Tobs

dicky79 - 2nd O/S - 2003 with Eddie & Katie

Hidden - Aug/02

jamiev - Lead O/S - Apr/02 with Adrian Berry

Stone Muppet - 2001

Rich Malcolm - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/00 with Darren Pallett

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2000

nickcanute - Lead - 2000

FrankW - Lead O/S - 16/May/98 with Unknown

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1998

RobSimmo - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/97 with Jon Berry

kato'sdad - Lead - 05/Oct/97 with Rob Simpson

CrashMat Rob - Lead O/S - 26/May/97 with Terry

Led the easy 1st picth.
Le Chevalier Mal Fet - AltLd - 14/Apr/97 with Richard Bower

Tim Bateman - 2nd - 30/Jul/95

Chris Ellis - Lead rpt - 05/Jul/95 with Rachel Nicolson

colin milton - AltLd - 07/May/95 with eric milton

Daniel Wrightson - Lead O/S - 26/Feb/95 with Richard Bradbury

leadmat - Feb/95

leadmat - Lead - Feb/95

Roget - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/94 with jon

marcoleptic - Lead O/S - 1994 with Hank, Mel

John Marsland - Lead - 18/Aug/93 with Darrell Small

Marti999 - Lead O/S - Mar/93 with Paul Ross

Budge - 2nd O/S - May/92 with Brian Ottewell

rob.grafton - 27/Oct/91 with Bruce

Welcome to Shiney Middleton. V polished
ellie macpherson - AltLd - Aug/91 with Graeme Jarvis

andy tetsill - Lead - Jul/91 with Joy

Neil R - 2nd - 13/Apr/90 with Howard

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/89

BigHairyIan - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/89 with Mike Gibbison (Hairy)

steve prior - Lead - Jun/88 with Chris S

Hidden - Lead - 17/May/88

Gary Coggon - 2nd O/S - Feb/88 with Mike Block

Paul Clarke - 1988 with Leeds Crew

steve taylor - 2nd dnf - 1987 with phil cockrell

Hidden - 1987

simon parish - Lead - 1987 with Andrew Taylor

Stoney Boy - Lead O/S - 1986 with Phil Cundy

Hidden - Lead - 17/Feb/85

Chris Wright - Lead - 14/Feb/85

Jim B pointed me up this, crapped my way up using nearly all my gear but a great climb and a good lead for me at the time
Simon2005 - Lead O/S - 1985 with KevG

malc - Lead - 08/Jul/84

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/84

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Mar/84

Ian Clare - 1984

Ian Clare - 1984

Gezzer - Lead O/S - 1983 with Derek Shaw

babymoac - Lead - 30/Jan/82 with MTW & Paul R

Bulls Crack - Lead O/S - 1982 with RW

mark-abz - Lead - 03/Oct/81 with Pete T

beaumap - Lead - 09/Jun/81 with Bernie Green

Hidden - 1981

Ian Jones - 1981 with Rich Lewis, Dave Greenald, Paul Mitchell, Derek Hersey

MikeDowsett - Lead - 1981 with Jon Sharpe

Hidden - Solo O/S - Aug/80

S,L.
charlesmfrench - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/80

Hidden - 04/Apr/80

Chris Craggs - Lead - 1980

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 01/Jul/79 with Dave Crookes

tapley - Lead - 29/Jul/78 with Alison Tapley

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/78

Hidden - Lead - 12/Mar/78

EagerAndy - Lead - 1978

Hidden - Lead - Sep/76

Hidden - Lead rpt - 03/Jun/76

Nigel Bond - Lead - 08/May/76 with John

Mark Kemball - Lead - 26/Apr/76 with Dave "Hamish" Wilkinson

rogerskews - Lead - 1976

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Jan/75

petemeads - Lead - 1975

mikej - Lead - 21/Mar/74 with Stewart Grant

Andy Say - Lead O/S - 1974

mikej - Lead - 09/Apr/72 with Barbara Sharratt, E

greenbuoy - Lead - 26/May/71 with Bob Lister

Beautiful route, just the right stuff for me. LOvely lovely jamming all the way.
lump'o'lead - 1971 with Jeremy Nightingale

bob@daysmill - Lead β - 1971

mikej - Lead - 04/Apr/70 with E, Martin Wragg

lump'o'lead - 1970

mikej - Lead - 11/Apr/69 with Bill Church

Dave Musgrove - Lead - 09/Mar/69

Pouring with rain but I still climbed to the half way break before retreating.
mikej - Lead dnf - 14/Sep/68 with Nigel Sumner

mikej - 2nd - 12/May/68 with Nick West

mikej - Lead - 28/Feb/68 with Brian Norris

lead variously since
David Smith - 2nd - 1968 with Nigel Helliwell

mikej - Lead - 25/Mar/67 with Ted Markham, Nigel Sumner

leathers - 2nd - 0000

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