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Subterfuge* 6b+

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18m. Start up the steep wall past a good hold. Continue with more hard moves and unhelpful holds up the upper rib; avoid the leftward temptations. © ROCKFAX
FA. Gary Gibson 1981
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This climb is in 261 logbooks, and on no wishlists.

jamiev - Lead rpt - 13/Jul/14 with Chris Saunders

gcarmichael - Lead β - 09/Jul/14 with Adam Hodgson

Souljah - Lead β - 08/Jul/14 with Alister

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/14 with Ben Ochner

jamiev - Lead rpt - 01/Jul/14 with Tim Parkinson

Charlie Noakes - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14

Hard start!
Adam_42 - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/14 with Wil

jamiev - Lead rpt - 26/Jun/14 with Tim Parkinson

Hidden - TR rpt - 26/Jun/14

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - Lead rpt - 21/Jun/14 with Eric Hildrew

jamiev - Lead rpt - 19/Jun/14 with Tim Parkinson

Hidden - Lead rpt - 14/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead rpt - 08/Jun/14

ben.phillips - TR RP - 08/Jun/14 with Mike Gallimore

Hard start.
MichaelGallimore - Lead RP - 08/Jun/14 with Ben Philips

Hidden - Lead dog - 06/Jun/14

Gus - Lead - 19/May/14 with chris barr

Matt Fry - Lead rpt - 03/May/14 with Ethan Walker

Stoney Boy - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/14 with Nick Conway

Hidden - Lead RP - Mar/14

justin c - Lead - 2014

Felt pretty hard, some tough moves and difficult to read.
petellis - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Broomy

emily_allen - Lead rpt - 29/Sep/13

pmurdy - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/13 with James

James Malloch - Lead RP - 24/Sep/13

Matt Cooke - Lead β - 21/Sep/13 with Rosh

Hidden - Lead RP - 01/Sep/13

Cake - TR dog - 01/Sep/13 with John Cooper, Matt

Hidden - Lead rpt - 31/Aug/13

Cake - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/13

Toby Dunn - Lead rpt - 25/Aug/13 with Alex Barrows

Hidden - Lead RP - 19/Aug/13

david morse - Lead RP - 19/Aug/13 with markalmack, chris todd

David Kay - Lead RP - 07/Aug/13 with Dave Kettle

Hidden - Lead rpt - 06/Aug/13

Sam Marks - Lead β - 24/Jul/13 with Jack Hodgson, Matthew Ferrier

Didn't pop far enough first go and came off. Good, burly moves through the bulge and remains pleasant to the top.
Matthew Ferrier - Lead - 24/Jul/13 with Jack Hodgson, Sam Marks

My first sport climb! A little strange at first to clip into bolts but felt great to get to the top of this route.
Jodgson - Lead β - 24/Jul/13 with Matthew Ferrier, Sam Marks

Hidden - Lead dog - 14/Jul/13

Joughton - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/13

Wizzy - Lead O/S - Jul/13

emily_allen - Lead rpt - 30/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 30/Jun/13

jamiev - Lead rpt - 25/Jun/13 with Tim Parkinson

Ian Broome - Lead rpt - 15/Jun/13 with Grant

doman11hate - Lead RP - 08/Jun/13

lojant - Lead RP - 08/Jun/13 with wojciech domanski

Rope solo
lojant - TR O/S - 06/Jun/13

Rope solo
lojant - TR rpt - 06/Jun/13

emily_allen - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13

4 Laps to finish day
tomsmartacus - Lead RP - 27/May/13 with Mark

Retro-flash
Alison2 - Lead rpt - 26/May/13 with Dad, matthew154

Hidden - 26/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/May/13

Stig - Lead rpt - 22/May/13 with Simon

AlistairB - Lead β - 21/May/13 with Tom

chiverstom - Lead O/S - 19/May/13 with Alice

jamiev - Lead rpt - 16/May/13 with Tim Parkinson

simeclimb68 - Lead rpt - 08/May/13

adrian perera - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with david rose

Hidden - Lead RP - 05/May/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 20/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 16/Apr/13

np134 - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/13 with T. Frost

climbingsheep - Lead β - 10/Apr/13 with Adam Sells, Jonny Reay, Mike Watson

Hidden - Lead rpt - 03/Oct/12

Brannock - Lead dog - 09/Sep/12

Pumped, with bouldery moves of the ledge need a rest day.
Jake Young - Lead RP - 03/Sep/12 with Andrew

Hidden - Lead rpt - 02/Sep/12

cliffrad - Lead rpt - 18/Aug/12 with Charlotte Garden, eazy

eazyclimbing - Lead β - 18/Aug/12 with heather, cliff

DDDD - Lead rpt - 12/Aug/12 with Sham

warm up
chrism225 - Lead rpt - 08/Aug/12 with jonny

Dan Jenkin - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/12 with James Jacobs

chrism225 - Lead - 30/Jul/12 with mark

Hidden - Lead rpt - 26/Jul/12

RP2
alek - Lead RP - 22/Jul/12 with David Liu

Nice moves - maybe a touch hard for 6b+
DDDD - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/12 with Sham

the slap to the sidepull wasnt the best choice for first move of the day - hand eye coordination lacking, fell off! Did it ground up second go. Hard for 6b+.
Si dH - Lead β - 02/Jun/12 with Dan H

Hidden - Lead β - 02/Jun/12

Daniel Heath - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Si

john lynch - Lead rpt - 27/May/12 with Lewis Andrew

al123 - Lead - 26/May/12 with alistair

jonny north - Lead O/S - 26/May/12

Alistair Corbett - Lead O/S - 26/May/12 with Al

Bouldery start, slipped off twice!
elliepygall - Lead RP - 25/May/12 with James

khawk - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/12 with DT

steepstuff - Apr/12

Hidden - 26/Mar/12

migs493 - Lead β - 25/Mar/12 with RS

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - Lead rpt - 02/Oct/11

jamesgodwin64 - Lead rpt - 19/Sep/11 with John Cooper

Hidden - Lead rpt - 31/Aug/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/11

Harder than 6b+
aretherenoneleft - Lead β - 31/Jul/11 with Andy B, Becky, Andrew

Hidden - TR dog - 28/Jul/11

Messed up the start (the obvious looking jug you would think you use rocks)and got it second go.
Moondance - Lead RP - 24/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 22/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead β - 07/Jul/11

drguiom - TR dnf - 02/Jul/11 with barney1, Rick Crosby

Hidden - Lead rpt - 02/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead rpt - 02/Jul/11

Too tired at the end of the day.
James Oakes - Lead dog - 27/Jun/11 with Bill Lawrence

Hidden - Lead rpt - 21/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead rpt - 18/Jun/11

nice, abit slappy at the bottom but good.
al123 - Lead - 18/Jun/11

cliffrad - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead dog - 07/Jun/11

Hard as nails!
shafiq lalloo - Lead - 06/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead - 04/Jun/11

metal arms - Lead O/S - 21/May/11

Lewis Andrew - Lead O/S - 21/May/11

damp at top but fine.
jamiev - Lead rpt - 14/May/11 with Tim Parkinson

Hidden - Lead RP - 04/May/11

scottski - Lead RP - May/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 30/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 30/Apr/11

jamiev - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/11 with Sam Harvie, Tim Parkinson

mic_b - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/11 with Heidi

simon1965 - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/11 with peakdj

simon1965 - Lead - 22/Apr/11

missed a good hold on the left and got pumped silly
Laurence Everitt - Lead RP - 19/Apr/11 with Jay Kay

thrutch - Lead - 12/Apr/11 with Sven

Had a quickrest on bolt after start then did it on second go.
simon1965 - Lead - 09/Apr/11

J.Wells - Lead β - 07/Apr/11 with Chris Lockyer

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11

richardr - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11

steepstuff - 26/Mar/11

Hidden - 2nd - 2011

robandian - Lead RP - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011

halfmanhalfbiscuit - Lead O/S - Oct/10

zero six - Lead O/S - Oct/10

Chris_barr - Lead β - 25/Sep/10 with Chris Lockyer

Hidden - Lead rpt - 12/Sep/10

Hidden - Lead RP - 15/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/10

Top roped to warm up after stevie, then led
drewish - Lead RP - 07/Aug/10 with SteveE9

thrutch - Lead - 03/Aug/10 with Sven

Hidden - Lead RP - Aug/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/10

belay bunny turned bad - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/10 with loundsy

Hidden - 2nd dog - 29/Jul/10

2nd go - messed up the bastard starting moves
mark20 - Lead RP - 19/Jul/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jul/10

nick ferro - 10/Jul/10

one false start getting off the shelf but got there in the end
Mick r - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/10 with big Rob

Hidden - Lead β - 04/Jul/10

bigie bob - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/10

Bit of a surprise - too tricky for 6b+ I think. Got the technique head warmed up for the routes on the right
martroberts - Lead O/S - Jul/10

Somerset swede basher - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/10 with Dan Wicks

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/10

Gambit - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Barney

catblack - Lead dog - 31/May/10 with Tom Lyons, Andy Barker

dominic lee - Lead rpt - 25/May/10 with andy elliot

Hidden - TR - 23/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/May/10

tough for 6b+
nathanlee - Lead RP - 09/May/10 with Dom Lee

Hidden - Lead rpt - 09/May/10

Hidden - Lead β - 07/May/10

Matt Fry - Lead β - 04/May/10 with Jon Clark

Hidden - Lead - 03/May/10

Ethan - Lead O/S - 03/May/10 with Jon Clark

highrepute - Lead β - 03/May/10

Hidden - Lead - 02/May/10

Hidden - Lead - 01/May/10

Ian Broome - Lead rpt - 01/May/10 with Dave

GrantB - Lead - 25/Apr/10 with ally smith

mattyork2 - Lead - 25/Apr/10 with James Karran, Ally Smith

Clean second go after cocking up the first hard move
jkarran - Lead RP - 25/Apr/10 with Smith, Matt, Grant

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/10

mattwyles1 - Lead O/S - 2010

flashed a year after my first attempt.
Sidekick - Lead - 2010

John Southworth - Lead O/S - 03/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead - 03/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/09

Stuart_Burbidge - Lead RP - 26/Sep/09 with Dave Rose

Martin Cleaver - Lead O/S - Sep/09 with Stuart McKinnon

rockjedi - Lead O/S - Sep/09

PeteH - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/09 with Chris Fox, Julian ?

jujuheath - Lead rpt - 27/Aug/09

stuckonarock - TR dog - 13/Aug/09 with Duncan, Tim & Butters

jibberingwreck - Lead RP - 11/Aug/09 with Bolehillbilly

Milnes - Lead dog - 08/Aug/09 with Bri Mac

Hidden - Lead - 08/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead - 06/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead rpt - Aug/09

Fell of the start on the onsight, lowered to ground then did it.
galpinos - Lead RP - 25/Jul/09 with Ben & Martin

tuftynick - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/09 with rich cross

Hidden - Lead - 16/Jul/09

Stig - Lead rpt - 01/Jul/09 with Greg

Hidden - Lead RP - 28/Jun/09

drysori - Lead β - 20/Jun/09 with Jon L

Hindsight?
shark - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/09 with Derek Toulalan

DDDD - Lead β - 14/Jun/09 with Simon Lee

Hidden - TR O/S - 02/Jun/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/May/09

Hidden - Lead RP - 17/May/09

john lynch - Lead - 09/May/09 with joe grondowski

SiW - 26/Apr/09

did not start is more apt, kept flying off the starting ledge reaching up for 'better' holds
GuyVG - Lead dnf - 02/Apr/09 with Al Mason

kingholmesy - Lead O/S - 2009 with SteveOc

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/08

sadams - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Ed Brown

georgel - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/08 with morgan

Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/08 with Mike Todd

ASchwirtz - TR O/S - 17/Aug/08 with Mike Todd

tedj234 - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/08 with Nicolas Rabb

Found this one hard for 6b+. Hung the draws on quality control for jonny's onsight
pottsworth - 2nd - Aug/08 with Jonny

craig d - Lead rpt - 05/Jul/08 with Simon Kincaid

Hidden - Lead RP - Jul/08

Hidden - Lead dog - 28/Jun/08

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/08 with Dale

morganator - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/08 with Anna Lise

mattyork2 - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/08 with Steve Aherne

Sam W - Lead - 07/Jun/08 with Sam Ring

Hidden - Lead dog - 07/Jun/08

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 07/Jun/08

tom.e - Lead β - 02/Jun/08 with Luke Porter

Andrew Barker - Lead β - Jun/08 with Chunk

Felt more like 6c+!
Morgan Woods - Lead O/S - 26/May/08 with Iain

Dave Bond - Lead β - 20/May/08 with Jon Clark

Hidden - Lead - 11/May/08

Brown - Lead O/S - 02/May/08 with Henry

Hidden - 2008

Stig - TR O/S - 04/Aug/07 with Goi

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/07 with James Rees, Mark Richardson

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/07

big move to start but brilliant
skygodley - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/07 with Karen Whitehouse

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead β - 17/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead - Apr/07

robyn1 - 2007

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/06

Hidden - 2nd dog - 10/Sep/06

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - Jun/06 with Ant

Boy - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Hidden - Lead RP - 16/Jun/05

mark s - 2005

bigphil - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/04 with Nick

Hidden - Lead rpt - 25/May/04

nige - Lead rpt - Aug/03 with nick colton

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/May/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/03

Hidden - 2003

climber34neil - 2002

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Jun/01

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Sep/00

Roget - Lead O/S - 20/May/00

Hidden - 2nd - 14/May/00

kristian - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 16/Jul/89

Hidden - 1988

andy gittins - 1985

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Style of ascent

Lead225 of 261 (86.2%)
Followed8 of 261 (3.1%)
Toproped12 of 261 (4.6%)
Unknown16 of 261 (6.1%)

'Climbed'49 of 261 (18.8%)
clean O/S85 of 261 (32.6%)
clean β25 of 261 (9.6%)
clean rpt50 of 261 (19.2%)
clean RP36 of 261 (13.8%)
dogged14 of 261 (5.4%)
dnf2 of 261 (0.8%)