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The Alternative Extra Option* 7b

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17m. Steep and entertaining moves up the leaning wall. The climbing is most easily started just to the right of the first bolts (old peg at 3m) however going direct via the first couple of bolts is good but harder. As described it incorporates Alternative Option and Extra Optional (see below). © ROCKFAX
As described it incorporates The Alternative Option (F7a+) and The Extra Option (F7a+) to give a sustained F7b.
FA. (Optional Extra) Martin Berzins and others 1985. Started slightly left as Alternative Option by Mark Radtke 2002. Extended as Extra Optional by Matt Triolett 2002.
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This climb is in 132 logbooks, and on 4 wishlists.

Given 7a in Rockfax, seems tough! 7a+ seems fair.
Joughton - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/14

Ian Broome - Lead rpt - 09/Aug/14 with Mike

Hidden - 07/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead dog - 25/Jul/14

7a+? Really struggled on this though after trying Pantomine all day!
Rachel Slater - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Fraser Hodby

Second go, blew the onsight at the top crux. Frustrating! 7a+
david morse - Lead RP - 02/Jul/14 with markalmack, chris todd

Pumpy.
Bennykr - Lead β - 25/Jun/14 with Will smith, Dan Green

retro
nathanlee - Lead RP - 23/Jun/14 with Neil Mawson

Hidden - Lead rpt - 18/May/14

Paul Figg - 2014

adamjeffs - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/13 with mum

emily_allen - Lead rpt - 16/Aug/13

emily_allen - Lead β - 02/Aug/13

Really hard to read and know if your on the right line! 3rd go!
cliffrad - Lead RP - 27/Jul/13 with eazy

Toby Dunn - Lead rpt - 21/Jul/13 with Mark Tomlinson

With the easier start and a rest on the right before 5th bolt 7a/easy 7a+
Bulls Crack - Lead RP - 19/Jul/13 with SP

Tough.
mattwyles1 - Lead dog - 24/Jun/13

2nd go
mark20 - Lead RP - 23/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead RP - 23/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 22/Jun/13

Confused, Altnative optional whatever?! Climbed the line following the bolts, some suspect rock held together with i'm not sure what. Fun steep pulling. Just made the belay!
Ian Broome - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/13 with Rich Wainwright

WB - Lead RP - 20/Jun/13 with Pagan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/May/13

Hidden - Lead RP - 23/May/13

Jeronimo - Lead O/S - 16/May/13

innes - Lead O/S - 12/May/13 with Ruth

4 attempts
alek - Lead dog - 05/May/13 with James Kay

Hidden - Lead RP - 05/May/13

Not entirely sure this is the route I did. The description matches but it gets 7a in rockfax and is 7a IMHO.
Rachel Somerville - Lead RP - 28/Apr/13 with Andy, Nik

thebigfriendlymoose - Lead RP - 01/Jun/12 with JohnM

Hidden - Lead dog - 25/May/12

Think it was this one, most pumped I have been in ages!
derico - Lead O/S - 24/May/12 with John Freeman

Hidden - Lead dog - 03/Sep/11

GPN - Lead RP - 07/Aug/11 with Mike Binks

jfreeman - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/11 with Dave Nicholl

2nd go
highrepute - Lead RP - 29/Jun/11

J.Wells - Lead RP - 24/Jun/11 with Mark Tomlinson

Hidden - Lead RP - 19/Jun/11

2nd go
gregoritos - Lead RP - 18/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 16/Jun/11

Steepness... First Redpoint attempt after a practise run. Hard start, hard second to last clip and a nice steep move off a pinch midway. Loving Kilnsey now!
Cragrat Rich - Lead RP - 16/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11

lukehunt - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/11

craig matheson - Lead O/S - 26/May/11

Hidden - Lead β - 22/May/11

Shouldn't have had to redpoint this route.
Richard Hall - Lead RP - 30/Apr/11 with Rupert Cross

Hidden - Lead RP - 08/Apr/11

Hidden - TR dog - 27/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead - 2011

Dan Mckinlay - 2011

Hidden - Lead RP - 17/Sep/10

Trainng done before.
marky - Lead β - 12/Sep/10 with John

nickmoulden - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/10 with Charlene Schilz

2 laps for training after Private Practice attempts
marky - Lead β - 30/Aug/10 with Gareth Scott

2nd go. learning the kilnsey thing.
ian caton - Lead RP - 21/Aug/10 with Anna, Abi

Hidden - TR dog - 21/Aug/10

Glenn Sutcliffe - 16/Aug/10 with keefe

Clean to last bolt. Got leg on wrong side of rope, moment of panic and grabbed draw! Grr!
julesp - Lead dog - 13/Aug/10 with Iain

Strenuous!
julesp - TR dog - 12/Aug/10 with Iain

Jack00 - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/10 with Rob

tom rookes - Lead - Aug/10

RD - Lead - Aug/10

Peterjuliandawson - Lead RP - 28/Jul/10

Luke Dawson - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/10

Not the best choice of warm-up
jkarran - Lead dog - 25/Jul/10 with Aly

Hidden - Lead RP - 25/Jul/10

Hidden - TR dog - 13/Jun/10

Stewart B - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/10 with Nick Deboost, Dave Redpath

morganator - Lead RP - 06/Jun/10 with Andrew James

First uk-F7, very pleased. First RP attempt after a quick dog to warm up and work out the top sequence.
jkarran - Lead RP - 02/Jun/10 with Smith, Grant

GrantB - Lead - 02/Jun/10 with James, ally smith

3 quick goes to figure out the moves. Should go next visit. Too cold to go for a lead tonight.
jkarran - TR dnf - 25/May/10 with Smith, Grant

Hidden - Lead β - 25/May/10

Forgot to take clips had to hang around for ages at 2nd bolt and get them handed up on clip stick. Got really pumped a bad idea.
Nicolas Duboust - Lead O/S - 23/May/10

Couple of laps
steve_biczyk - Lead rpt - 23/May/10 with Huw, Marc

middlevern - Lead RP - 20/May/10 with Toby Dunn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/10

Hidden - Lead RP - 01/May/10

Hidden - May/10

Phil79 - TR dog - 30/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead dog - 30/Apr/10

JM - 2010

JM - 2010

kingholmesy - Lead RP - 2010 with SteveOc & Foley

Adam Lincoln - Lead - 2010

Hidden - TR - 20/Sep/09

Hidden - TR dog - 20/Sep/09

Felt pumpy after working Urgent Action
marky - Lead β - 20/Sep/09 with Sharon

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/09

sweet route n8ice and pully.
andy gravestock - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/09 with allex

uptown - Lead β - 13/Aug/09 with Toby Dunn

Hidden - Lead - 12/Aug/09

Wow, hard 7a+ i thought it felt hard 7a and only because i climbed it badly. get in. (also worked metal guru and i i waited to go for my rp it seeped at the start and i couldnt do the move anymore)
Alex Mason - Lead β - 04/Aug/09 with andy gravestock

willackers - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/09 with Dan Walker

dominic lee - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/09 with neil foster

marcpontin - Lead RP - Jul/09 with huw

Good juggy fun.
steve_biczyk - Lead β - 28/Jun/09 with Emma Curry, Marcus Pontin

Hard
lx - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/09 with Neil Mawson

Hidden - Lead - 27/Jun/09

Worked it out on a rope and ticked it first go. Two hard moves, one below third bolt and one further up off a big sidepull to gain good holds. Really good route
robbo - Lead RP - 22/Jun/09 with Neil Mawson

Ally Baba - Lead β - 21/Jun/09 with Dave R

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/09

Seymore Butt - 2009

Hidden - Lead dnf - 03/Aug/08

Hidden - Lead - 05/Jun/08

Richard Horn - Lead RP - 24/May/08

bigie bob - Lead O/S - 24/May/08

Hidden - Lead RP - 18/May/08

buzby78 - Lead O/S - 14/May/08 with Malc

Hidden - Lead β - May/08

keefe - Lead O/S - 2008

pushing 7a+ and very very good - sustained physical climbing building to a pumpy finish, great!
ksjs - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/07 with andy

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/07 with Rachel Hassall

Hidden - Lead RP - 10/Jun/07

joe larner - 2nd - 03/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead dnf - 29/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead RP - Apr/07

Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/06 with Dave D

Tony Little - Lead RP - 28/Jul/06 with Ed Brown

Boy - 2006

Hidden - Lead RP - 2006

Felt a lot more like 7a+ than 7a
andy farnell - Lead RP - 2005 with Ian Patterson

Hidden - Lead - 2005

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - May/04 with Stone

Cassidy - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/03 with Scottish Raiding Party

Henners - Lead RP - 01/Sep/03 with Neil Buzby

nige - Lead O/S - Aug/02 with mark hounslea

This is 7a+
Steve Crowe - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/02

sadams - Lead O/S - 25/May/98 with John Boyle

mikedelderfield - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/95 with Steven Delderfield

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/93

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
thebigfriendlymoose, owain86, James Oakes, Hidden

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Style of ascent

Lead114 of 132 (86.4%)
Followed1 of 132 (0.8%)
Toproped8 of 132 (6.1%)
Unknown9 of 132 (6.8%)

'Climbed'20 of 132 (15.2%)
clean O/S38 of 132 (28.8%)
clean β12 of 132 (9.1%)
clean rpt6 of 132 (4.5%)
clean RP39 of 132 (29.5%)
dogged14 of 132 (10.6%)
dnf3 of 132 (2.3%)