The Alternative Extra Option** 7a+

Rockfax Description
A popular long pitch. Stick to the line of bolts at the start and continue past the first lower-off. © ROCKFAX

UKC Logbook Description
As described it incorporates The Alternative Option (F7a+) and The Extra Option (F7a+) to give a sustained F7b.

FA. (Optional Extra) Martin Berzins and others 1985. Started slightly left as Alternative Option by Mark Radtke 2002. Extended as Extra Optional by Matt Triolett 2002.

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This climb is in 148 logbooks, and on 6 wishlists.

Mike Todd - Lead dog - 22/Aug/15 with Brian Rodgers

tim newton - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/15 with Mark Richardson

Jugs! Wild and steep climbing
Glyn - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/15 with Amy

Macleod - Lead - 19/Jul/15

cooperman - Lead G/U - 12/Jul/15 with Chris Rabs

Hidden - 06/Jul/15

Bit chossy but climbing is nice enough.
climbingpixie - Lead RP - 05/Jul/15 with Andy

Hidden - Lead RP - 05/Jul/15

TRFrost - Lead RP - 21/Jun/15 with W. Kelsall

Ramon Marin - Lead RP - 19/Jun/15 with viki harvey

Paul Figg - Lead - 03/Jun/15 with Malcolm Bass

Fluffed the flash.
PeteH - Lead RP - 17/May/15

May have done something around here in the past but cant remember what
shark - Lead O/S - 03/Oct/14 with Paul Reeve

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - Lead rpt - 28/Sep/14 with Andy Cave

Given 7a in Rockfax, seems tough! 7a+ seems fair.
Joughton - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/14

cjsheps - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/14

Ian Broome - Lead rpt - 09/Aug/14 with Mike

Hidden - 07/Aug/14

BillyRidal - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/14

Very nearly o/s
Dave Turnbull, BMC - Lead dog - 25/Jul/14 with Toby Dunne

7a+? Really struggled on this though after trying Pantomine all day!
Rachel Slater - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Fraser Hodby

Second go, blew the onsight at the top crux. Frustrating! 7a+
david morse - Lead RP - 02/Jul/14 with markalmack, chris todd

had a few attempts on TR. Hard for me as quite thuggy!
Emilysaladfingers - TR dog - Jul/14 with mat welsh

Bennykr - Lead β - 25/Jun/14 with Will smith, Dan Green

nathanlee - Lead RP - 23/Jun/14 with Neil Mawson

Hidden - Lead rpt - 18/May/14

Paul Figg - 2014

adamjeffs - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/13 with mum

emily_allen - Lead rpt - 16/Aug/13

emily_allen - Lead β - 02/Aug/13

Really hard to read and know if your on the right line! 3rd go!
cliffrad - Lead RP - 27/Jul/13 with eazy

Toby Dunn - Lead rpt - 21/Jul/13 with Mark Tomlinson

With the easier start and a rest on the right before 5th bolt 7a/easy 7a+
Bulls Crack - Lead RP - 19/Jul/13 with SP

mattwyles1 - Lead dog - 24/Jun/13

2nd go
mark20 - Lead RP - 23/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead RP - 23/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 22/Jun/13

Confused, Altnative optional whatever?! Climbed the line following the bolts, some suspect rock held together with i'm not sure what. Fun steep pulling. Just made the belay!
Ian Broome - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/13 with Rich Wainwright

WB - Lead RP - 20/Jun/13 with Pagan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/May/13

Hidden - Lead RP - 23/May/13

Jeronimo - Lead O/S - 16/May/13

innes - Lead O/S - 12/May/13 with Ruth

4 attempts
alek - Lead dog - 05/May/13 with James Kay

Hidden - Lead RP - 05/May/13

Not entirely sure this is the route I did. The description matches but it gets 7a in rockfax and is 7a IMHO.
Rachel Somerville - Lead RP - 28/Apr/13 with Andy M, Nik

thebigfriendlymoose - Lead RP - 01/Jun/12 with JohnM

Hidden - Lead dog - 25/May/12

Think it was this one, most pumped I have been in ages!
derico - Lead O/S - 24/May/12 with John Freeman

Accidently used for warm up
LisaA - Lead dog - 03/Sep/11 with Ed, Alistair

GPN - Lead RP - 07/Aug/11 with Mike Binks

jfreeman - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/11 with Dave Nicholl

2nd go
highrepute - Lead RP - 29/Jun/11

J.Wells - Lead RP - 24/Jun/11 with Mark Tomlinson

Hidden - Lead RP - 19/Jun/11

2nd go
gregoritos - Lead RP - 18/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 16/Jun/11

Steepness... First Redpoint attempt after a practise run. Hard start, hard second to last clip and a nice steep move off a pinch midway. Loving Kilnsey now!
Cragrat Rich - Lead RP - 16/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11

lukehunt - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/11

craig matheson - Lead O/S - 26/May/11

Hidden - Lead β - 22/May/11

Shouldn't have had to redpoint this route.
Richard Hall - Lead RP - 30/Apr/11 with Rupert Cross

Hidden - Lead RP - 08/Apr/11

Hidden - TR dog - 27/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead - 2011

Dan Mckinlay - 2011

Hidden - Lead RP - 17/Sep/10

Trainng done before.
marky - Lead β - 12/Sep/10 with John

nickmoulden - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/10

2 laps for training after Private Practice attempts
marky - Lead β - 30/Aug/10 with Gareth Scott

2nd go. learning the kilnsey thing.
ian caton - Lead RP - 21/Aug/10 with Anna, Abi

Hidden - TR dog - 21/Aug/10

Glenn Sutcliffe - 16/Aug/10 with keefe

Clean to last bolt. Got leg on wrong side of rope, moment of panic and grabbed draw! Grr!
julesp - Lead dog - 13/Aug/10 with Iain

julesp - TR dog - 12/Aug/10 with Iain

Jack00 - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/10 with Rob

tom rookes - Lead - Aug/10

RD - Lead - Aug/10

Peterjuliandawson - Lead RP - 28/Jul/10

Luke Dawson - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/10

Not the best choice of warm-up
jkarran - Lead dog - 25/Jul/10 with Aly

Hidden - Lead RP - 25/Jul/10

Hidden - TR dog - 13/Jun/10

Stewart B - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/10 with Nick Deboost, Dave Redpath

morganator - Lead RP - 06/Jun/10 with Andrew James

First uk-F7, very pleased. First RP attempt after a quick dog to warm up and work out the top sequence.
jkarran - Lead RP - 02/Jun/10 with Smith, Grant

GrantB - Lead - 02/Jun/10 with James, ally smith

3 quick goes to figure out the moves. Should go next visit. Too cold to go for a lead tonight.
jkarran - TR dnf - 25/May/10 with Smith, Grant

Hidden - Lead β - 25/May/10

Forgot to take clips had to hang around for ages at 2nd bolt and get them handed up on clip stick. Got really pumped a bad idea.
NDD - Lead O/S - 23/May/10

Couple of laps
steve_biczyk - Lead rpt - 23/May/10 with Huw, Marc

middlevern - Lead RP - 20/May/10 with Toby Dunn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/10

Hidden - Lead RP - 01/May/10

Hidden - May/10

Phil79 - TR dog - 30/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead dog - 30/Apr/10

JM - 2010

JM - 2010

kingholmesy - Lead RP - 2010 with SteveOc & Foley

Adam Lincoln - Lead - 2010

Hidden - TR - 20/Sep/09

Hidden - TR dog - 20/Sep/09

Felt pumpy after working Urgent Action
marky - Lead β - 20/Sep/09 with Sharon

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/09

sweet route n8ice and pully.
andy gravestock - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/09 with allex

uptown - Lead β - 13/Aug/09 with Toby Dunn

Hidden - Lead - 12/Aug/09

Wow, hard 7a+ i thought it felt hard 7a and only because i climbed it badly. get in. (also worked metal guru and i i waited to go for my rp it seeped at the start and i couldnt do the move anymore)
Alex Mason - Lead β - 04/Aug/09 with andy gravestock

willackers - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/09 with Dan Walker

dominic lee - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/09 with neil foster

marcpontin - Lead RP - Jul/09 with huw

Good juggy fun.
steve_biczyk - Lead β - 28/Jun/09 with Emma Curry, Marcus Pontin

lx - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/09 with Neil Mawson

Hidden - Lead - 27/Jun/09

Worked it out on a rope and ticked it first go. Two hard moves, one below third bolt and one further up off a big sidepull to gain good holds. Really good route
robbo - Lead RP - 22/Jun/09 with Neil Mawson

Ally Baba - Lead β - 21/Jun/09 with Dave R

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/09

Seymore Butt - 2009

Hidden - Lead dnf - 03/Aug/08

Hidden - Lead - 05/Jun/08

Richard Horn - Lead RP - 24/May/08

bigie bob - Lead O/S - 24/May/08

Hidden - Lead RP - 18/May/08

buzby78 - Lead O/S - 14/May/08 with Malc

Hidden - Lead β - May/08

keefe - Lead O/S - 2008

pushing 7a+ and very very good - sustained physical climbing building to a pumpy finish, great!
ksjs - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/07 with andy

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/07 with Rachel Hassall

Hidden - Lead RP - 10/Jun/07

joe larner - 2nd - 03/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead dnf - 29/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead RP - Apr/07

Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/06 with Dave D

Tony Little - Lead RP - 28/Jul/06 with Ed Brown

Boy - 2006

Hidden - Lead RP - 2006

Felt a lot more like 7a+ than 7a
andy farnell - Lead RP - 2005 with Ian Patterson

Hidden - Lead - 2005

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - May/04 with Stone

Cassidy - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/03 with Scottish Raiding Party

Henners - Lead RP - 01/Sep/03 with Neil Buzby

nige - Lead O/S - Aug/02 with mark hounslea

This is 7a+
Steve Crowe - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/02

sadams - Lead O/S - 25/May/98 with John Boyle

mikedelderfield - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/95 with Steven Delderfield

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/93

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Leon Laubscher, thebigfriendlymoose, owain86, James Oakes

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