Sifta's Quid Inside Route S 3a
[Max wiggling into the inside route, popped out the top a full 15 minutes later., 3 kb]10m.

Rockfax Description
10m. Interesting; this variation avoids the crux of the regular route by some speleological lunacy. Climb towards the slot beneath the boulders then get squirming. Helmet, harness and runners will all impede your progress on what is Western Grit's answer to Helfenstein's Struggle. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: Through Routes!, The troglodyte squeeze specials.

Photo: Max wiggling into the inside route, popped out the top a full 15 minutes later. © psborland
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This climb is in 276 logbooks, and on 8 wishlists.

Night time ascent. Requires good squirming technique
katiep - Solo O/S - 08/Aug/15 with Sion, Amy Horton, Alex Banks, Ben

Almost forgot about this, think i had a large mug.
Jake Young - Solo O/S - 08/Aug/15

Amy Horton - Solo - 08/Aug/15

Epic fail. Couldn't get any further than head and shoulders through the tunnel so slunk off left!
embob - Lead dnf - 03/Aug/15 with Alex

Andy Morley - Solo β - 04/Jul/15

Brilliant and weird, easier than it first looks!
WeeLee - Solo O/S - 28/Jun/15

Best done solo without a helmet if you don't want to get stuck
Tom.Priestley - Solo O/S - 06/Jun/15

bloc - Solo O/S - 06/Jun/15

bloc - Solo O/S - 06/Jun/15

MichaelGallimore - Solo rpt - 30/May/15

Somerset swede basher - Solo O/S - 26/May/15

Possibly one of the most unpleasant climbs I've ever done. worst than any caving i've done. got my knot stuck around bottom of chock then had to wriggle so hard to get out...should of just soloed it
hirving - 2nd O/S - 26/Apr/15 with Jordan Golding, sam giles

Hidden - Solo O/S - 26/Apr/15

Ridiculous climbing, couldn't get through the hole, even with a substantial amount of thrutching.
Mike.Kinge - Lead dnf - 18/Apr/15 with Rob

Wolfy1987 NEWMC - Lead - 11/Apr/15

by headtorch. Turns out it can be a bit of a wind tunnel
i_a_coops - Solo O/S - 07/Mar/15

Andrew Wright - Lead O/S - 15/Feb/15 with Josh Veasey, Anthony Sheard

Was worried I would get stuck like the boys. Turns out I was much more at risk of falling out of the route than getting stuck. Fun :) !
Shannyb - 2nd - 15/Feb/15

Jmpollard - Solo - 14/Feb/15

Heavily assisted, drunken, nighttime solo. Dan helped drag me over the boulder bit
thisisbethevans - Solo RP - 14/Feb/15

At night after beers in trainers - great fun!
Morgan P - Solo - 14/Feb/15

Had to take harness off as nuts placed themselves
Gentleman Joe - Lead O/S - 07/Feb/15

rashwell - Solo - Dec/14

Leo Choi - Solo O/S - 18/Oct/14

Theeni - Solo O/S - 20/Sep/14

craggybear - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/14

1pt of aid (Toms head)
Rosie Henstock - Solo O/S - 07/Sep/14

TGreen - Solo rpt - 07/Sep/14 with Rosie Henstock

MattKettle - 2nd O/S - 07/Sep/14 with Pete Nielsen

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/14

Albachoss - Solo rpt - 17/Aug/14 with Monia

Hidden - Solo β - 15/Aug/14

TGreen - Solo O/S - 30/Jul/14

Note to self; wear t-shirt next time. So much grit rash.
Madden - Solo O/S - 26/Jul/14

barefoot struggling
sgl0jd - Solo - May/14

TheaSmea - Solo O/S - 15/Apr/14 with James

WhipperSnapper - Solo O/S - 14/Apr/14 with Maxie

Stopsy - Solo rpt - 12/Apr/14

Group ascent.
Teappleby - Solo - 30/Mar/14 with Matt Harmon, James Oswald, Anna Duckett

Love this route!!!
Tophe - Solo rpt - 29/Mar/14 with Ben Ochner

Drew Bennett - Solo - 29/Mar/14

amccann - Solo - 29/Mar/14

Sarah 'you choose which way to go', so of course we did the inside route!
Teappleby - Lead - 29/Mar/14 with Sarah Roscoe

sibluer - Lead - 21/Mar/14

Couldn't fit through the hole with jackets and harness and gear. I'll try again solo in the future!
knighty - Lead dnf - 16/Mar/14 with Dan Easton

Hidden - Sent rpt - 08/Mar/14

Caitlin - Lead - 08/Mar/14

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 22/Feb/14

Roo123 - Solo - 2014

Hidden - 2nd - 2014

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Nov/13

Got through the hole but much squirming, excellent fun but definitely only for small people with lots of determination!
Louvet - Lead - 23/Nov/13 with Tarquin

Anne Gumbley - Lead dnf - 23/Nov/13 with David Cross

couldn't squeeze through
dave4430 - Lead dnf - 23/Nov/13 with Anne Gumbley

CLyus - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/13 with alex belfield, matthias lepape

Plus uber old-school trad. Wimped out of the traverse and ended up tying rope around waist.
Siobhan McGowan - Solo - 06/Oct/13

lost.arrow - 29/Sep/13 with Emma Veitch

Hidden - Solo O/S - 21/Sep/13

jack 9895 - Solo - 20/Sep/13

lewis_james84 - Lead O/S - Sep/13

Chris Dovey - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/13 with Scott Wrigley

With Eddie and chris
Wriggers - 2nd rpt - 27/Aug/13 with Chris dovey, Eddie Roebuck

ERH - Solo rpt - 26/Aug/13 with Sarah R

Hidden - Solo - 03/Aug/13

Albachoss - Solo rpt - 03/Aug/13

RichardLeggett - 2nd - 14/Jul/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead - 04/Jul/13

Stopsy - Solo O/S - 01/Jul/13 with Stu, Henry

Killianmurphy - Solo rpt - 21/Jun/13

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/13

jjclarke70 - Solo O/S - 05/Jun/13

Dan Geh - Solo rpt - 26/May/13

Wriggle through a tiny space- Johnny got stuck seconding. Everyone else soloed up behind for moral support.
HazelMacLean - Lead β - 26/May/13

Indy92 - Solo - 26/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/May/13

jwhereat - 2nd O/S - 04/Apr/13

just wriggle
jack 9895 - Solo O/S - 13/Mar/13

dsgarner - Solo O/S - 03/Mar/13

Hidden - 02/Mar/13

nic_andrews - Solo - Mar/13

got stuck and put on top rope for slot
Zara_92 - Lead dog - 24/Feb/13 with Chris, Hannah

I have seen a succession of 6ft, 80kg + blokes climb this today (including myself), there is no excuse!
Sam Husband - Solo O/S - 18/Feb/13

RKirke - Solo - 17/Feb/13

Hidden - Solo O/S - 17/Feb/13

Albachoss - Solo rpt - 17/Feb/13

Will Hunt - Solo O/S - 17/Feb/13 with John Puddephatt

Stroppy - Solo O/S - 17/Feb/13

Sophieeee - Solo - 17/Feb/13

owb106 - Solo β - 17/Feb/13

Tophe - Solo O/S - 16/Feb/13 with Prem

In the dark, unpleasant but satisfying. Type 2 fun.
jacobjacob - Solo β - 16/Feb/13

CragDog - Solo O/S - 16/Feb/13

Hidden - Solo O/S - 16/Feb/13

Joshh - Solo O/S - Feb/13

funny, but a bit awkward!
Sam Melville - Solo O/S - 09/Oct/12

BeckyBrown1989 - Lead - 09/Oct/12 with Helen Roberts

Second attempt. First time the harness and helmet got in the way. Still a very tight squeeze! Highly recommended!
MichaelGallimore - Solo RP - 01/Sep/12

Krista led second pitch through the cave
PeteArcher - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/12 with Krista

Krista - 2nd - 04/Aug/12 with Pete Archer

Stuart_Burbidge - Solo rpt - 21/Jul/12

Wouldnt fit
j.townley - Solo dnf - 21/Jul/12 with Stuart_Burbidge

fun little solo in walking boots (cleaned of course), ended up finishing with my shorts around my ankles and a loss of all dignity but fun
whitehouse_rhys - Solo O/S - 08/Jul/12

I think my training as a swimmer helped with this one
Nick Russell - Solo O/S - 08/Jul/12

iallaway - Solo RP - 01/Jul/12

ScottyD - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/12

Alex179 - Lead - 13/May/12

RichardN - 2nd O/S - 13/May/12

mattshort - Solo - 12/May/12

Hidden - Lead dnf - 12/May/12

Helped Susie with a lot of combined climbing tactics.
scotty h - Solo rpt - 28/Apr/12 with Suzie

was tight!
Dan Geh - Solo O/S - 15/Apr/12 with Thomas Geh

wet and couldnt commit to crux on siftas quid. Rubbish!
p_won - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/12 with Ollie Knowles, ric eliot

Hidden - TR - 29/Mar/12

Didn't get through, and I'm quite small!
MichaelGallimore - 2nd dnf - Mar/12 with Andy Hawkins

Hidden - 19/Feb/12

Hidden - Solo O/S - 19/Feb/12

Up to squirm then exit left due to not seeing a way through hole.
Ross.Cooper - 2nd O/S - 29/Jan/12 with Harry Yarrow

Got to the squirm and decided I wouldn't fit! Went left to finish.
yarrow - Lead O/S - 29/Jan/12 with Ross.Cooper

Just because i thought it was fun :)
jack1996 - Solo rpt - 15/Jan/12 with tom s

Freaking tight, although i did repeat it after cause it was so much fun :)
jack1996 - Solo O/S - 15/Jan/12 with tom s

I may be the largest person ever to fit through the hole, can anyone beat 6'4?
Matt Smith - Solo O/S - 07/Jan/12

tom106 - Solo β - 07/Jan/12

funsized - Solo O/S - 07/Jan/12

Greg Jones - Solo O/S - 06/Nov/11

Hidden - Solo O/S - 26/Oct/11

sgl - Solo O/S - 26/Oct/11

Mr. K - Solo rpt - 22/Oct/11

steve.warrington - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/11 with Stuart Llewellyn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/11

Brown - Solo - 14/Aug/11 with Solo

Hidden - Solo O/S - 30/Jul/11

What a bloody tight squeeze!
Jonny Nick - 2nd O/S - 14/Jul/11

jamests99 - Solo O/S - 02/Jul/11 with colin, Rob, Jase

Climbfool_88 - Solo O/S - 21/Jun/11

ross brinson - Solo - 07/Jun/11

Hidden - Solo dnf - 06/Jun/11

Got head & shoulders in the cave, but decided I'd never get through with harness & gear so cut left to Captain Lethargy finish
PeteArcher - Lead dnf - 05/Jun/11

One HELL of a fun route! Easy until the ledge, the vertical caving practice was a bugger. The sun was up when I went in, and had set by the time I topped out. Real issue with rope drag through the squeeze. Funniest route imaginable, especially for belayers with the noises made by climbers!
antmorgan1991 - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/11 with Dave Southam, Ross Monaghan

Good fun, I came out with a full body grit rash and Rob didn't. Please explain?
Bobling - Solo - 04/Jun/11

scotty h - Solo β - 11/May/11 with Alex Maggs

kez1 - Solo O/S - 03/May/11

A very tight squeeze!
mcglenr25 - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11 with Francis Charlesworth

Kirsty810202 - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11 with Ian Webster

saalty - Solo rpt - 16/Apr/11 with eddy

saalty - Solo O/S - 12/Apr/11 with Terri, colin

Hidden - Lead dnf - 11/Apr/11

Excellent fun
Spidermunkie - Solo O/S - 07/Apr/11

Jonathan Spooner - Solo O/S - Apr/11

nickwhimster - Solo O/S - 31/Mar/11

Nearly got stuck cos i'm a fat ba***d.
Duffers - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Alex

10pm. Walking boots. T-Shirt. No headtorch.
johnpuddephatt - Solo O/S - 11/Mar/11 with Matt Robinson, Jamie Sparkes

JamieSparkes - Solo rpt - 11/Mar/11 with johnpuddephatt

bring lube.
Matt_L_Robinson - Solo - 11/Mar/11

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - TR O/S - 09/Oct/10

geddicakes - 25/Sep/10 with slim

'Interesting' experience. Got in the hole after three goes, and spent what felt like forever sprawled over the rock in the middle while my feet kicked about feebly below. Wriggled out into perfect warm sunshine at the top.
calephetos - 12/Sep/10

Horrible fiddly last bit such a hard gap to squeeze through but well worth it.
Mikey Moran - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/10

Got halfway in the hole and couldn't pull myself through.
kev82 - Lead dnf - 01/Aug/10

liverpooldave - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/10

Monstrous fun.
farmus21 - 23/Jul/10 with Frazer Hopwwod

Mike Turner - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/10 with Joshua Turner

good fun
JamieSparkes - Solo O/S - 01/Jul/10 with Claire Holland

squidgebob - Solo O/S - 01/Jul/10 with jamie

richyclimb - Lead - 19/Jun/10

Did this barefoot. Two bare feet sticking out of the crag must've gotten some strange looks from passersby
sgl0jd - 12/Jun/10

Jacqui Parker - Lead - 12/Jun/10 with Stu Burbidge, James Dexter

what a squeeze its more like caving
Mitch1990 - 12/Jun/10

stupid, crazy but fun!
gingerwolf - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/10

pffft - Solo rpt - 02/May/10

mark32 - May/10

Look - no hands! (or feet). Good for novelty value, not to be repeated! John led Sifta's Quid and I took the 'easy' option.
erica - 2nd - 24/Apr/10 with John

Take your harness off !!!!!
Andy Merrick - Solo O/S - 17/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead dnf - 09/Apr/10

Never again!
heathergotrumbled - Lead dnf - 14/Mar/10 with ST

s.tietz - TR O/S - 14/Mar/10 with Heather Rumble

Duncan Campbell - Solo O/S - 07/Mar/10

We both couldn't get through! Maybe when I was 12 I could of done it!
sleavesley - Lead dnf - 23/Jan/10 with Nick Scott

georgebe - Lead - 2010

GF - 2010

philw - 2010

Hidden - Solo dnf - 28/Nov/09

uremac83 - Lead - 06/Nov/09

matt0759 - Lead - 17/Oct/09 with Mike Parker

bavarianGaz - Solo O/S - 26/Sep/09

dasdo - 2nd - 19/Sep/09

hideously mental, but awesome varient
simeclimb68 - Solo O/S - 15/Sep/09

Mr. K - Solo O/S - 10/Sep/09

Laura-lou - Solo - 08/Sep/09

Awesome fun route, Tom lead placing gear every metre or so, including inside the lower tunnel, had to much rope drag so set up belay. I joined him and lead through the top tunnel complete with gear and trying to place it. Got horribly stuck so had to remove helmet and gear while stuck in tunnel, then finally could proceed to finish. Most fun all day :)
pffft - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/09 with Tom Perrin

Definitely take less gear next time! also attempting to multi-pitch after the first tunnel was fun - as was protecting the roof of the first tunnel! :)
PerrinT - AltLd - 25/Jul/09 with Luke Vincent

beta = don't ware a harness or anything from guidebook lol
willoates - Solo β - Jul/09

Hidden - 10/Jun/09

thenewme - Lead dnf - Jun/09 with Hobnob

Hixmclix - Solo O/S - 29/Apr/09

garburn - Solo O/S - 25/Apr/09

Ed Westwood - Solo O/S - 25/Apr/09 with nilsamelinckx

Hidden - Solo O/S - 24/Apr/09

SimonBrown - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Dan James

GPN - Solo O/S - 11/Apr/09

Went under the first set of boulders this time too. Emerged at the top filthy. Awesome route!
net - Solo rpt - 11/Apr/09 with George

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/Apr/09

jepotherepo - Lead O/S - Apr/09 with Helen

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/09

could not work it out, glad to provide some amusement. Even went out on to Obsession Fatal at one point for some variation, dont think the snow helped much with the friction.
BenJacobs - Lead dnf - 28/Mar/09 with Bethan

Graeme Hammond - Solo O/S - 22/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/09

dj_brigham05 - Solo O/S - 15/Mar/09

jonnie3430 - Solo O/S - 15/Mar/09 with Hannah

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Feb/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Feb/09

Hidden - Solo - 2009

Hidden - 2009

grady - Solo O/S - 2009

Good sling placemts on route, good gear placements.last moves of climb atre tricky, wedged in to crack than went up and over.
Guestie9 - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/08 with Clewer

Harness kept me from geting through so after 20 minutes backed down and finished up Captin L,
Killianmurphy - 2nd dnf - 22/Aug/08 with Becca Snowden

MattT88 - Solo O/S - 01/Aug/08 with Becca Snowden

You wriggle this way, you wriggle that way... Very fun!
BeccaSnowden - Solo O/S - 01/Aug/08 with Matt Turner

LeighAdams - Lead - 27/Jul/08 with Eddie Banks

SimonAndersen - Solo O/S - 19/Jul/08 with Kevin Belcher

Matthew Coleman - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/08 with Lesley

Hidden - 2nd - 14/May/08

aidanb - Solo O/S - 06/May/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Apr/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/08

Hidden - Solo rpt - 07/Mar/08

Hidden - Solo - 07/Mar/08

TiffTiff - Solo O/S - 24/Feb/08

The most fun I've had in ages.
net - Solo - 16/Feb/08

dan gibson - Solo O/S - 2008

Should get a star just for the novelty value of crawling through a hole and getting muddy.
Lev - 2nd O/S - 04/Nov/07 with Rob Horton & Jon Crouch

Worth it for the novelty for sure!
rh5980 - Lead O/S - Oct/07 with Lev Jones

Lev - 2nd - Oct/07 with Rob Horton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/07

Ben1983 - Solo O/S - 30/Sep/07

tlmarjot - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/07 with Ben Lea

Jonny M - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/07 with Helen Tsai

Dont repeat in a t-shirt!
nublet - Solo O/S - 11/Aug/07

bit of fun to play on again
ebunick - Solo rpt - 04/Aug/07 with Joe

bloody hilarious!!! great fun and the most recommended climb of the day!
ebunick - 2nd O/S - 07/Jul/07 with Jez

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Apr/07

Hidden - Solo - 31/Mar/07

sce8 - Lead - 11/Mar/07 with gemma

i'm not a child; i couldn't fit...
treebadger - Lead dnf - 10/Mar/07

Utterly rediculous, completely deviant, and not a little foul. Did some mud swimming through the first tunnel, but gave up on the second after scraping out on my first attempt (that and my second wasn't exactly looking happy about the route anymore, not that I blamed him). Maybe, just maybe one for summer, but not for Feburary. - Lead dnf - 17/Feb/07

timmy-ts - 2007

Ollie_park - Solo O/S - 2007

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2007

Tried getting through the second hole, but its impopssible unless your a 7 year old kid
Mr Wild - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/06 with Mark

Did the full inside route squirming through the lower hole and then the top one also shaping myself into a boomerang and wriggling upwards to the even smaller exit hole :) Managed to get a full body grit rash!
Richard Hession - Solo O/S - 12/Aug/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/06

Best crag comedy I've had in a long time!
SecretSquirrel - 18/Jun/06 with featuresforfeet

Briefly thought of calling the fire brigade but achieved full pelvic dislocation and freed myself.
featuresforfeet - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/06 with SecretSquirrel

Weirdly enjoyable. Even better to watch those of above average girth struggling!
Tim Sparrow - Solo - May/06

Mat J - 2006

Completed after doing the 'outside route' it of a squirm, interesting! dont try it with a helmet on!
krusty23 - 2006 with MMU Bunch

an experience
EAYL - 2nd - 23/Oct/05 with Patrick Snow

stevo smith - Solo O/S - 16/Apr/05

stevo smith - Solo O/S - 16/Apr/05

Hidden - 2005

Iain Downie - 2005

Hidden - Lead - 2005

Midnight group solo on the BMC guidebook launch night. Mark didn't fit!
Gus - 2005

chris murnin - Lead - 16/Sep/04

victim of mathematics - Solo O/S - 12/Jul/04

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - Jun/04

Tip: don't wear a harness or chalk bag.
will_benfold - Solo O/S - May/04

coffeepot - 2nd - Aug/03 with Romy

Smelly Fox - Solo O/S - 08/May/03

Hidden - Solo O/S - 08/Feb/03

ed woods - Solo O/S - 2000

Climbing or caving?
Duncan Bourne - Solo O/S - 07/May/95

Struggle and twist and shout and fuck I'm stuck
A Crook - Solo O/S - 22/Apr/95 with Pat Boothman

andrew300169 - Lead - 1990

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