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Upper Tor Wall*** HS 4b

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[Upper Tor Wall, Kinder, 2 kb]18m. A classic 'jug-fest'. Climb the groove on the right then step out left and climb the flaky wall to ledges and finish out right. © ROCKFAX
FA. Arthur Birtwhistle 1936

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Western Grit: Top 50, Steve Ashton's 100 Classic Gritstone Climbs, ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List, 50 Best HS Routes in the UK., The Peak: past and Present, World Graded List, Moorland Grit - The Essential Selection (Over The Moors), Northern (Yorkshire !?) Climbs for a Southerner, Peak Rock/4/ Universities,Teams and Clubs in the 1930's.

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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 121 logbooks, and on 24 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Aug/14

Excellent route, hard for the grade with some steep moves, good handholds but can be out of balance. Tired myself out on one of these placing gear! Then reassessed after a rest and went up with a completely different move and was fairly easy. Nice.
Stuart Hurworth - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/14 with Marcus Levens

Lovely. Quite tough.
JohnHutch - Lead - 19/Jun/14 with Pip, MG

Previous solo Aug. 2003
jshields - Solo - 18/May/14

MikeDowsett - 2nd - 18/May/14 with George Salt

ben.phillips - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/14 with Jared Kitchen

Robaduck - Lead - 16/Apr/14

Beautiful end to the day.
Iron Face - TR O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Lozza

samvimes1982 - 2nd β - 28/Sep/13 with Tim Higgins

good times, did another arete on nether tor which was great but not sure of name/grade - on left hand end lower, about vs 5a..
john lynch - Lead - 19/Aug/13 with Bethan D

gazfellows - Lead - 14/Jul/13 with Nic

BALD EAGLE - Lead - 06/Jul/13 with Rob Horler

great climb!
peachos - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/13 with Alvaro

BTphonehome - Lead rpt - 25/May/13 with Kasha

kasha_gregson - 2nd O/S - 25/May/13 with Bram

thevoice - 2013

Hidden - Solo - 2013

Frank the Husky - 2013

Pete Rigby - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12 with Kelli Roberts

kelliroberts3 - 2nd - 21/Oct/12 with Peter Rigby

xphoenix0 - Lead - 10/Oct/12 with John M

BTphonehome - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/12 with Baron

baron84 - 2nd - 29/Sep/12 with BramT

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/12 with Graeme

Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 15/Sep/12 with Jim

johnpuddephatt - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/12 with Gareth Uglow

Chris Hind - 2nd - 12/Aug/12 with Bry

tradguy - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/12 with Rob Munday

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/12

Mowglee - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with John Puddephatt

Will Hunt - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Tom Nichols

wolverine - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/12

Sam Cooke - 2nd O/S - 26/May/12 with stevetheleg

stevetheleg - Lead O/S - 26/May/12 with Sam Cooke

gavinpeach - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/12 with Dan Mclaughlin

fun!
shafiq lalloo - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11 with timmyhobby

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/11

richyg - 01/Oct/11

claregardiner - 2nd - 01/Oct/11

zhelyo - Oct/11

mnorman88 - 2nd - 22/Aug/11

tatz45 - Lead rpt - 09/Jul/11 with Katy Vose

Hidden - Lead - 02/Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Jul/11

CRiddiford - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Lisa

jez_palmer - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead - 26/Jun/11

tmawer - 2nd O/S - 26/Jun/11 with andrea

Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 04/Jun/11 with Becky E

Becky E - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11 with Graeme Hammond

Mr G - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/11 with Brianna Zoll

LivinITlarge - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Joe

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 27/Mar/11

jack robinson - Lead RP - 27/Mar/11 with James Dowsett

jack robinson - TR RP - 12/Mar/11 with James Dowsett

Hidden - TR rpt - 12/Mar/11

VS 4c for sure!
joese7en - 2nd O/S - 20/Oct/10

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Jun/10

Ketu - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/10 with Graeme H

slogged up the hill again, but 'totally worth it dude' :D
Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 20/Jun/10 with Rob

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/10

Once in every gritstoner's life they should heed the call and make the pilgrimage (or slog up the hill in the blazing sunshine) to honour this total CLASSIC!! Soloed twice as once wasn't enough and in case I don't ever make it back up the hill
Graeme Hammond - Solo O/S - 22/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/10

JRae - Lead O/S - 22/Mar/10 with E Shawcross

Ken Taylor - 2010

Blowing a gale, bit of rain, no chance of communication with belayer, stuck ropes, etc etc. Best climb i've done for ages :-)
James_D - Lead O/S - 06/Sep/09 with Esther

Made a right a hash of it, but managed to get up some how.
Mark Collins - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/09 with Neil Henson

Steeper than it looks.
Neil Henson - 2nd - 05/Jul/09 with Mark Collins

Alex fell so lowered off then I completed first pitch but abbed off the belay. We will be back!
mark20 - AltLd dnf - 24/Jun/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/May/09

Hidden - Lead - 24/May/09

colin milton - 2nd - 02/May/09 with ibbo

andybeanland - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09 with Rachel

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/09

edmitchell - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/09 with kai ren

Hidden - TR - 06/Apr/09

popebenedictus - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/09 with Edd Rab, Ruth Harding

edd rab - TR O/S - 04/Apr/09 with Ben Harding

Powder Puff Girl - 2nd - 04/Apr/09 with Ben H

DerwentDiluted - Lead - 29/Jun/08 with Nicola Pettit

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Hidden - 2008

gazfellows - Lead - 2008 with shaun d

starting to get more comfortable on HS climbs now and this one was a pleasure with only one part where I didn't plan my moves and protection and had a brief moment of worry. A superb example of what three star climbs are all about, exciting positions and moves that just stretch you a little for the grade, awesome!
gazbonutter - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/07 with Jo Kennedy + Luke

poofish - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/07 with Gary

Tim W - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/07 with Janna Trevorrow

andybeanland - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/07 with Chris Hanson

Steve Waters, Mynydd - 2nd O/S - 22/Apr/07 with Ann Sanderson

lewisl - Lead - 07/Oct/06 with Russ

Disappointingly ordinary
Simon Caldwell - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/06 with Carmen

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/06

Cake - 2nd - 01/Jul/06 with Matt

Bokonon - 2nd - Nov/05 with Andy

Si dH - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/05 with Neil Furniss

strenuous
Dave Mahon - Lead - 2005 with Mark Moody

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/04

Very hot day - Climbed in bare feet
Alaric - 2nd - 07/Aug/04 with Pierre Maxted

Nice climbing, but it is the lovely setting that gets the route 3 stars
Tom Stoddart - Lead - Aug/04 with Tom Slade

chrishedgehog - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/04 with Mark Gill

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/04

chris sm - Lead O/S - Aug/03 with Pippa Froggatt

Hidden - Lead - 19/Jul/03

Hidden - Solo O/S - 09/Jul/03

Laramadness - 2nd β - 18/Apr/03

Hidden - Solo - 2003

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - 2001

rlrs - Lead - 2001

Nigel Coe - 2nd - 11/Jul/99 with Ian Smith, Bob Moulton

Ian Archer - 2nd O/S - 09/Dec/97 with Tony Morris

Good and hard for grade (HS)
Gordon Stainforth - 2nd - 02/Apr/95 with Mark Clark, Mike Pearce, Paul--?

daprince - 1995

Solid VS.
Rog Wilko - Lead - Jul/94 with Debbie Wilkinson

Hidden - Solo - 30/May/94

Yourlead - Lead - 26/Mar/94

Andy Say - Solo O/S - 23/May/93

David Smith - Lead - 04/Sep/91

Roget - Solo O/S - 30/Jun/91 with jon

steve prior - Lead - Jun/91

Sean Kelly - 1980

tapley - Lead - 13/May/79 with Jug Jarvis, Alison Tapley

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Voting
Total votes cast 94
hard VS0 of 32
VS0 of 32
easy VS9 of 32
hard HS14 of 32
HS9 of 32
easy HS0 of 32
hard S0 of 32
S0 of 32
easy S0 of 32
hard 4c0 of 32
4c0 of 32
easy 4c7 of 32
hard 4b21 of 32
4b4 of 32
easy 4b0 of 32
hard 4a0 of 32
4a0 of 32
easy 4a0 of 32
3 Stars26 of 30
2 Stars3 of 30
1 Star1 of 30
0 Stars0 of 30
Bag of .....0 of 30
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Style of ascent

Soloed8 of 121 (6.6%)
Lead64 of 121 (52.9%)
Followed35 of 121 (28.9%)
Toproped5 of 121 (4.1%)
Alt Leads1 of 121 (0.8%)
Unknown8 of 121 (6.6%)

'Climbed'52 of 121 (43.0%)
clean O/S57 of 121 (47.1%)
clean β2 of 121 (1.7%)
clean rpt7 of 121 (5.8%)
clean RP2 of 121 (1.7%)
dnf1 of 121 (0.8%)