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First Finale*** E1 5b

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[Harry placing pro before tackling the small roof on First Final (E2, 5b)., 3 kb]18m. Well-protected climbing on pleasing holds, and understandably popular. Climb the crack first, passing an overlap early on, to a finish up the final groove (a bit loose) at the left edge of the roof. Low in the grade. © ROCKFAX
FA. Colin Dickinson 1972. FFA. Dave Knighton 1976

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List.

Photo: Harry placing pro before tackling the small roof on First Final (E2, 5b). © Andrew Brown (AB)
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 238 logbooks, and on 10 wishlists.

Hidden - TR O/S - 09/Jun/13

Goose4 - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/13 with April Derbyshire

Amazoniangirl - TR - 31/May/13 with Carl Stubbs

Hidden - Lead - 25/May/13

Hidden - 2nd - 24/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/May/13

Heisenberg - 2nd - 22/May/13 with tony hulme

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/13

Very soft for E1.
Tubs - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/13 with Dave M

Hidden - 23/Sep/12

At last, something to take from this week. I tried top-roping this last year but was unable to complete without a rest. I've done the route a number of times in the past, but that doesn't count for much now. Also, the peg is no longer present. I suspect it came out with the recent fall, speedy and full recovery to whoever it was.
Mark Collins - TR rpt - 05/Sep/12 with Delboy

Derek Robinson - TR dnf - 05/Sep/12 with Mark Collins

Mr Wild - 2nd O/S - 12/Aug/12 with John McGuinness

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Jul/12

Pretty good. wobbly block didn't help. shame about the top out.
Mattyk - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/12 with Andy Hobson

Hidden - 18/Jun/12

daniel_c_baron - 2nd - 11/Jun/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/12

Ade's first E1, well done
bigglesbutcha - 2nd O/S - 03/May/12 with Ade

khawk - Lead rpt - 31/Mar/12 with DT

Clay C - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/12 with Ken

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Mar/12

Anthony Dixon - Lead - 25/Mar/12 with Alan

PeteH - Lead rpt - 20/Mar/12 with Chris Moxon

area above peg is looser than last year... take care
efrance24234 - Lead rpt - 08/Mar/12

jac.c123 - 2nd rpt - 07/Jan/12 with andyc123

climbing son - Lead RP - Jan/12

cat22 - 2nd O/S - 13/Nov/11 with Mike

georgenvk - TR O/S - 12/Nov/11 with martina

now even more convinced this is seriously very soft for E1 and probably easier than Terror Cotta.
Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 16/Oct/11 with Pete Wimbush

Excellent, best route of the day?
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Cleo

Clee - 2nd - 15/Oct/11 with Graeme

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/11

hamishjfk - 2nd - 20/Sep/11

rockjedi - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/11 with Sara Williams

Mark Collins - TR dog - 02/Aug/11

Loved every minute of it
daniel_c_baron - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/11

jac.c123 - 2nd rpt - 20/Jul/11 with andyc123

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Jul/11

csw - Lead rpt - 30/Jun/11

gw3285 - 2nd - 29/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/11

pbphil169 - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd dog - 19/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd dog - 19/Jun/11

Chriswallis2 - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Anna

jac.c123 - 2nd rpt - 28/May/11 with andyc123

Hidden - Lead - 04/May/11

chrisg - 2nd - 03/May/11

Just Another Dave - 2nd O/S - May/11 with Andrea

First E1!
JYates - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/11 with Stephen Kearney

Hidden - Lead - 24/Apr/11

bexyboo - 2nd O/S - 22/Apr/11 with Kev

nickhoward - 2nd O/S - 22/Apr/11 with Kev

Great climb, more like HVS 5a.
Simon Holden (LCandCC) - Lead rpt - 14/Apr/11 with Swifty

First E1 lead but very dissapointed - too easy for grade
wrapped in bacon - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/11 with Rob

Easier than Terror Cotta!
Bob - 2nd O/S - 03/Apr/11 with M. Bullough

petegunn - Lead - 01/Apr/11 with Davina

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/11

jac.c123 - 2nd - 18/Feb/11 with andyc123

damp...
nadeem - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/11 with James Morrison

joe.91 - 2nd O/S - 31/Oct/10 with Jack Metcalfe

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/10

pie_eater_pete - Lead O/S - 30/Oct/10 with Dave Sargent

jtree03 - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/10 with Brother Al

Very easy for E1, felt more like hard HVS. Never the E2 5b it gets in Lancs Rock!!!
Hardonicus - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/10 with Chris Surfleet

clive-greenwood - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/10 with Anna

MikeLeeds - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/10 with Kevin Bowser

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Aug/10

sparkass - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/10 with Tom Airnes

Alex Winter - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/10 with J. Iles-Smith

jiles - 2nd O/S - 16/Aug/10 with Alex Winter

hellboundblr - Lead - 14/Aug/10 with Andrew Eustace

andeeeee - 2nd β - 14/Aug/10 with Bryan Lewis

wouldn't like to lead with those loose holds higher up.
Bumblebee Biggs - 2nd O/S - 05/Aug/10

Simon Rackley - Lead O/S - Aug/10 with tracy baldwin

Shuttsie - 2nd - 11/Jul/10 with Andrea Sales

Hidden - Lead - 11/Jul/10

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Jul/10

really great climbing, good holds, good gear, really enjoyable
skittles - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/10 with will johnson

mick grim - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/10

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/10 with Anna

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/10

I can't believe anyone thinks this is E1, let alone E2.
Shauna - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10 with Jules

JulesV - 2nd - 19/Jun/10 with Shauna Cunningham

Calder - Lead dog - 18/Jun/10 with jeffb

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead - 05/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead - Jun/10

Hidden - Lead - Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd - 30/May/10

NeilGriffiths - 2nd - 18/May/10 with Adam

A Crook - Lead O/S - 18/May/10 with Neil Griffiths

Great route, down as E1 in my book. Rested once just before getting over the lip.
natalie28 - 2nd - 12/May/10 with Rik, Uni Group

mickJ - 2nd - 08/May/10 with Nick and Mike

boywonder - Lead O/S - 01/May/10 with Mike Harper

boywonder - 2nd rpt - 01/May/10 with Mike Harper

mike_harper - Lead β - 01/May/10

rikbattye - Lead O/S - May/10 with natalie28

Pre placed kit :(
jdaynes - Lead β - May/10 with natalie28, rikbattye

NeilGriffiths - 27/Apr/10 with Dave, Adrian Pedley

Hidden - TR rpt - 15/Apr/10

lewk_c - 2nd O/S - 13/Apr/10 with Rik Dawes

nickhoward - 2nd O/S - 11/Apr/10 with kevin wheatley

lancashirelass - 2nd - 11/Apr/10 with kjbix

Rik Dawes - Lead O/S - Apr/10

efrance24234 - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2010

PeteH - 2nd O/S - 11/Dec/09 with Noel Peatfield

ndp - Lead - 11/Dec/09

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 08/Nov/09

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Oct/09

Tadams - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/09 with Jonny Schofield

metal arms - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/09

khawk - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/09 with DT

Brown - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/09 with John

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/09

tmawer - Lead - Jul/09 with Andy

adam06 - 2nd - 19/Jun/09 with chris white and chris carr

blanchie14c - Lead RP - 15/Jun/09 with Mark Wilson

Thought it was an E1 when attempted... great feeling. Sling the tree at the top (gently) before escaping- otherwise quite a big fall possible.
AshWall - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/09 with Norman Wilkinson

conboy93 - Lead O/S - 26/May/09 with Matthew Lovell, Peter Brindle

Hidden - TR - 23/Apr/09

kjbix - Lead - 05/Apr/09 with Selma Williams

hetaher - Lead O/S - 22/Mar/09 with Dave H

garethtodd - TR O/S - 22/Mar/09

garethtodd - TR O/S - 22/Mar/09

Lunar25 - Lead O/S - 2009

steven - Lead β - 18/Sep/08 with Brian Hull

ruggystunts - 2nd - 14/Sep/08 with Kev

Good flowing moves, bit loose at top and easy for E1!
derico - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/08 with Dave Hollows

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 30/Aug/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/08

will6459 - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/08 with Andy Hext

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Aug/08

mickJ - 2nd - 23/Aug/08 with mike b

dhdaveuk - Lead O/S - Aug/08 with Leo

TonyP - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/08 with woody

Although top roped still suited with climb
Booey - TR dog - 13/Jul/08

dicky79 - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/08 with Nicola

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/08

good climb, E1 providing you find the nice holds
dannut89 - TR O/S - Jun/08

Very steady ascent. Just getting back into the grade. Really nice climb though!
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - 26/May/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/May/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/May/08

Positive holds.
slarty - 2nd - 15/May/08 with Liam

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 02/May/08

tomB - 2nd rpt - 24/Apr/08 with Ross Pimlott

Timothy Greenhalgh - Lead dog - 16/Mar/08 with Andy B

samking251 - 2008

galpinos - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/07 with Nick V and Emily

3*, brilliant climbing. Technical and crimpy for the most part then a right bitch of a top-out! E1 in Western Grit and pretty amenable at that grade.
climbingpixie - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/07 with James

DavidR - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/07 with Holly Adamthwaite

kitkat78 - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/07 with SteveM

SteveM - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/07 with Kat

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 15/Sep/07

Hidden - TR O/S - 08/Sep/07

Hidden - Lead rpt - 07/Sep/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Sep/07

psychicbread - 2nd O/S - 05/Sep/07 with Max

liam - Lead O/S - Sep/07 with JP

A tough one to warm up on
Swotson - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/07 with Matt Gordon

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Aug/07

Duncan Skelton - Lead β - 02/Aug/07 with Mark Donohoe

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Jul/07

dhdaveuk - Lead rpt - 29/Jun/07 with Leo

tomB - Lead rpt - 26/Jun/07 with Ross Pimlott

Hidden - Lead rpt - 09/Jun/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2007

I've climbed harder E1s
kingholmesy - Lead O/S - 2007 with SteveOc

Shad - Lead - 2007

cem - Lead O/S - 03/Dec/06 with Graham Dolman

Stoney Boy - Lead O/S - 06/Sep/06 with Mick Robinson, Matt Podd

Found this a bit strenuous for E2 but good fun all the same.
Will Hunt - TR O/S - 06/Aug/06 with Jamie and Phil

Jamie Light - TR - 06/Aug/06 with Phil Baker/Will Hunt

Hidden - TR O/S - 14/Jul/06

Stig - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/06 with Maciek

Hidden - Lead β - 31/May/06

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 31/May/06

Hidden - 2nd - 30/May/06

soft touch dont know why it is e2
robman - Lead O/S - 10/May/06 with Tim

tomB - 2nd - 10/May/06 with Rob Boyle

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/06

Carl Smethurst - Lead rpt - 02/May/06 with Gareth Mayhead

karabiner - 2nd O/S - 26/Apr/06 with chris m fisher

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/06

Hidden - 2nd β - 26/Apr/06

kitch01 - TR O/S - Apr/06 with terry webb

Dom Whillans - 2006 with a.crook

Kyuzo - Lead O/S - 2006 with Leo Warren

Johann - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/05

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/05

Ben1983 - Lead O/S - May/05

Easy even for E1. Should be HVS 5A
Dave Westby - Lead O/S - 2005 with John Fishwick

my first E1 :) when i was stronger!
highclimber - Lead O/S - 2005

Carl Smethurst - Lead rpt - 05/Oct/04 with Gareth Mayhead

r0b - Lead β - 15/Jun/04 with Mark Humphries

datoon - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/04 with RT

Heisenberg - 2nd - 11/Apr/04 with mark humphries

Mark Collins - Lead β - 08/Jun/03 with Andy Timms, Andrew Primrose

nige - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/03 with steve tonks

Mark A Humphries - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/03 with Terry Robinson

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/03

Mark Collins - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/03 with Neil Henson

Neil Henson - 2nd β - 02/Mar/03 with Mark Collins

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2003

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2003

Hidden - 2nd dog - Sep/02

Heisenberg - 2nd - 09/May/02 with martin dale

Good ascent. Felt good throughout.
Owdham - TR rpt - Oct/01 with Girtch

Good climb with some good solid holds. Quite pumpy. A little tricky at the finish.
Owdham - TR O/S - 15/May/01 with Girtch

NeilGriffiths - 09/Apr/00 with Mike Pritchard

phardman - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/97

Steve Clark - 2nd O/S - 1997

Hidden - Lead - 05/Jun/96

Steve Clark - TR - 09/May/96

Neil Conway - TR O/S - 1996

Roget - 2nd O/S - 29/May/95 with jon

Hidden - 1995

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1995

Hidden - TR O/S - 05/Aug/93

Hidden - Lead - 18/Jul/93

CBA - 1993

ChrisJD - Lead - 07/Jun/92 with PaulB

feels exposed for a vertical wall
ellie macpherson - 2nd - Jun/92 with Neil Macpherson, Graeme Jarvis

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Jul/91

Easy for E2
badgy - Lead - 1991

whispering nic - Jun/90 with noj

John Southworth - Lead O/S - Mar/90

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/89

andy farnell - 1989

mik1miller - Lead O/S - 1989 with gary deane

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/87 with Rob Scott

Mark Kemball - 2nd - 28/Mar/81 with John Jefferies

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Voting
Total votes cast 164
hard E20 of 23
E20 of 23
easy E20 of 23
hard E10 of 23
E18 of 23
easy E18 of 23
hard HVS7 of 23
HVS0 of 23
easy HVS0 of 23
hard 5c0 of 74
5c0 of 74
easy 5c1 of 74
hard 5b0 of 74
5b19 of 74
easy 5b46 of 74
hard 5a8 of 74
5a0 of 74
easy 5a0 of 74
3 Stars23 of 67
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Style of ascent

Lead129 of 238 (54.2%)
Followed76 of 238 (31.9%)
Toproped22 of 238 (9.2%)
Unknown11 of 238 (4.6%)

'Climbed'65 of 238 (27.3%)
clean O/S128 of 238 (53.8%)
clean β10 of 238 (4.2%)
clean rpt23 of 238 (9.7%)
clean RP2 of 238 (0.8%)
dogged7 of 238 (2.9%)
dnf3 of 238 (1.3%)