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Shadow Wall** VS 4c

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[Crux pitch of Shadow Wall, 3 kb]45m, 2 pitches. Don't be put off by the scrappy start, the traverse under the roof is not to be missed. 1) 4a, 27m. Scramble up the groove to the large tree (possible belay) and continue up the groove to belay under the roof. 2) 4c, 15m. Follow the line below the rightward slanting roof with difficulty to a small groove. Follow this to a stance at a tree. 3) 8m. Climb easily up to the ledge. © ROCKFAX
Climb the rather dirty and vegetated crack to belay just before or at roof. Traverse right ascending to second step and then tricky move around corner on jugs for hands but nothing for feet. Move past tree / abseil point to top

Ticklists: 100 More Classic British VS Climbs, North Wales Rock Graded List, Menlove Routes.

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switch - 2nd - 09/Aug/14 with Alex P

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Aug/14

Led P1 and P2. We abbed off P2 rather than do the 8m final pitch. P2 is fantastic! Not nearly as scary as people make it out to be, there is gear where it matters and good holds.
mariannekhoo - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/14 with Denise Morgan

BTphonehome - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/14 with Kasha

kasha_gregson - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/14 with Bram

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 07/Aug/14

Led P2
Matt Harmon - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/14 with Sam Ash

Lead P1
Sam Ash - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/14 with Matt the Fresher

Abbed at the tree. Led P1 and laced with gear, simply because all the placements were ace!
Dawn_K_B - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/14 with Calum Harvey

Led p1, 3. Good route, p2 great for photos!
Alaric - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/14 with garywong

P2
garywong - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/14 with Paul Chalmers

Led P1
alexm198 - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/14 with Matt Harle

Matt Harle - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/14

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Jul/14

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Jul/14

Tithe Technique - 2nd O/S - 17/Jul/14 with Angela Paul, Charley Fell

In one pitch...
charley - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/14 with Ange, Kev

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jul/14

Really good fun.
Matt Farr - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/14 with Simon

HB1 - AltLd - 11/Jul/14 with WC

Col Kingshott - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/14

Pero - AltLd - 10/Jul/14

Tom Keaveny - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/14 with Cathleen

Only did P1 and P2. Charley led in a oner. The first pitch is easy climbing and pleasant enough but unremarkable but wow does the second pitch make up for it!! Absolutely excellent climbing with some lovely bold moves but on great holds. Superb!
valentinesbabe - 2nd O/S - Jul/14 with Charley Fell, Kevin Tithe

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead - 19/Jun/14

wrapped in bacon - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/14 with Daryl

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/14

Climbed with Rhys. He led P1 and me P2. Amazing climb. Second pitch climbing out of the corner was really exposed and bold....good stuff! Chuffed!
londonoring - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/14 with David Treharne

weekendwarrior92 - AltLd - 18/Jun/14 with owen srour

Julesthe1st - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/14 with Bart

Ali P1, me P2. Quality climbing on both pitches. P1 is nice solid 4a climbing, P2 has some great moves traversing right from underneath the overhang. Good times.
cathymiller - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/14 with Ali

Hidden - Lead - 14/Jun/14

maddy92 - Lead - 12/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Jun/14

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Jun/14

Joined 2 pitches together
fizzychewitt - Lead - 05/Jun/14 with John Norman, Jayne

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 05/Jun/14

Matthew Robinson - AltLd - 04/Jun/14 with Marcin

The exposure of the juggy pull on the final ledge to get round the corner is somethign else! Wish I could have hung around longer to enjoy it.
Karlos - Lead O/S - 31/May/14 with Alan H

swmackey - AltLd O/S - 29/May/14 with Gemma Grewar

I lead first. Dan lead the crux pitch.
NeilPrickett - AltLd - 18/May/14 with Dan Vaj

Dan Vaj - AltLd O/S - 18/May/14 with Neil Prickett

Jack Whiteley - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14

Lead pitch 2. Very nice position and the tree belay is excellent with some new rope.
Matt Amos - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14

Only did P1 & P2. I led P2. Awkward off balance moves under the roof, and good fun. Nice position in the pass. Worth abseiling but watch out for ropes tangling in the trees below!
adamre12 - AltLd O/S - 14/May/14 with Dan Qureshi

Led pitch 2, which felt steady and over a little too quickly.
Big Lee - AltLd O/S - 05/May/14 with Lawrence Dudley

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 04/May/14

Rpt. P1 today.Polished but still a good move on P2
jezb1 - AltLd - 03/May/14

will moy - AltLd O/S - 03/May/14 with Jez

Glad Pip lead the serious pitch! About my limit atm.
Duncan Beard - AltLd O/S - 03/May/14 with Pip McCarthy

Second
hikerman - May/14

2nd pitch was amazing climbing!
Tom Redmond - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/14 with joe cossey

I took the first pitch, James the second.
Matt Bill Platypus - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/14 with James Rowe

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Apr/14

Led P1 & 3
Julian Prieto - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/14 with Alan Blanchflower

Led P2. Off-balance moves along the rising traverse.
Monkey_Alan - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/14 with Julian Prieto

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Apr/14

Finally a VS 4c that actually feels the grade. Led the first pitch and followed the second, quality route the whole way and probably one of the most scenic abseils down to descend. Loved this route! :)
jsmcfarland - AltLd O/S - 15/Apr/14 with Oli Hawk

P2 traverse. Brilliant, pully climbing but all too short.
spidermonkey09 - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/14 with Ellie Fuller

p1
Ellie Fuller - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/14 with Jim Hulbert

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/14

Led the second pitch (4c) over the exposed mantle ledges
Littleslip - AltLd O/S - 16/Mar/14 with Bradley

Barrez - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/14 with Robboj

Robboj - AltLd - 10/Mar/14 with Lee Barr

Si - 2014

Hidden - 2014

J.Atkins - 2nd O/S - 12/Oct/13

Fran Sgr - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/13 with Jack N, jack A

Very enjoyable, traverse under the roof is memorable but loads of good gear
A Mountain Journey - Lead - Oct/13 with Kate

Superb route.
dave4430 - 2nd O/S - 28/Sep/13 with Tom Odling

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Sep/13

steven_daniels99 - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/13

dave657 - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Alys

Andrew Lester - AltLd - 03/Sep/13

Brilliant route! Led P2. Some of the moves and positions feel crazy for a VS and would be much suited to harder routes, but the holds are all there and the gear is good. Find the footholds and go for it!
Mike Nolan - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/13

rd20 - AltLd rpt - 30/Aug/13 with Mike N

David Kay - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/13 with Rob, Jules Lane

Great climb, however the crux at at the end of pitch 2 was difficult!!
Rob Royle - 2nd - 26/Aug/13 with Jules Lane, David Kay

Led by Dave in 1 long pitch. Fabulous top move when you swing round the arete - just take a breath and go ! Abbing off requires care not to end up with holly where you don't need it.
Julian Lane - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/13 with Mynydd Dave K

rob.grafton - Lead - 25/Aug/13 with Jim

alpinismo.uk - Lead - 22/Aug/13

mdg skidmore - Lead - 20/Aug/13 with joe north

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/13

Col Kingshott - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Chris

andycash - AltLd O/S - 09/Aug/13 with Simon Cahill

Lead pt 1 (not that scrappy, a nice steady 4a pitch) so now lead all pitches but somehow today Pt 2 seemed harder than I remembered.
Simon Cahill - AltLd rpt - 08/Aug/13 with Andy UKC

Mark D - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/13 with Ewan Irvine

ewan i - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/13 with mark duggan

Hidden - AltLd - 21/Jul/13

tomdadom - AltLd - 14/Jul/13 with Rhys

did the second pitch, narly!
rbharries - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/13 with apples

andyclimber - 2nd O/S - 14/Jul/13

kyaizawa - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/13 with Jun Aizawa

Lead both pitches, excellent climb, harder than what it looked from the first belay, but just have faith and commit to it, once on the first ledge there's no going back!
Craigyboy13 - Lead - 09/Jul/13

Beezy - 2nd - 09/Jul/13

Ed F - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/13 with Celyn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/13

Led second pitch
TrevorCruse - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Clive Dean

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/13

Had an epic. Climbed the HVS P2 of Yellow crack by mistake and didn't then end up setting up a belay to bring Lyd up before the roof. So by P3 belay after climbing a harder pitch and then the roof with ridiculous rope drag having only a single rope we where both extra on edge and abseiled off P3 belay. Great climbing!
Oliver Branagan - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/13 with Lydia R

Led; p. 1.
Alex.M-M. - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/13 with Vasco Bull

Vasco Bull - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/13 with Midge

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jun/13

bobpilgrem - AltLd rpt - 31/May/13 with Dennis

Hidden - 2nd - 30/May/13

Hidden - Lead - 30/May/13

Hidden - AltLd - 30/May/13

led in one long pitch on 60m ropes
shoulders - Lead O/S - 30/May/13 with dai

Awesome situation - finishing the traverse requires a step of faith to the footholds beyond.
Pete_Frost - AltLd O/S - 26/May/13 with Will Miller

SteveM - AltLd - 26/May/13 with Kat

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/May/13

kitkat78 - AltLd O/S - 26/May/13 with SteveM

matt lead p1-easy up to the roof, i did p2 which was a bit more tricky.
DanOsb - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13 with matt treg

Me P1, Dan P2. Very enjoyable second pitch.
treg - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13 with Dan Osbaldeston

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/May/13

crux 4c pitch, wild moves,really memorable crofty led 1st and 3rd pitches
pebbles - AltLd - 19/May/13 with crofty

Steve Woollard - AltLd - 07/May/13 with Andy Owen

Ray Sparks - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13 with pete ranstead

Mr Tickle - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with Neil D

great positions
alooker - 2nd O/S - May/13

Exposed moves onto the arete, brilliant views from the belay, great climbing on great rock. What more could you ask for?
Dan724 - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Raji Salan

lead the second pitch - great crux move
anthonydouglas - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/13 with Craig Letham

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Apr/13

magicdougie - Lead - 10/Apr/13 with JCAshman

JCAshman - AltLd O/S - 08/Apr/13

Me P1, Carly P2
Voltemands - AltLd O/S - 03/Apr/13 with Carlene HIll

s.scott - AltLd - 04/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Mar/13

Nick Biven - 2013

rob16 - 2013

tim20 - 2013

DubyaJamesDubya - 2013

Led P1 and 3, P2 esoteric...not the best route on the crag
LozM - AltLd - 19/Oct/12 with Max Stretton

Harri777 - AltLd - 09/Sep/12 with Stephen T

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/12

Hidden - 08/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead β - 08/Sep/12

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Sep/12

I lead first pitch (straight forward and nice), Kate lead the second pitch (stayed low, tricky end to the traverse, awesome exposure)
thecurlyone - AltLd O/S - 09/Aug/12 with Kate Lawrence

Sy Finch - 2nd O/S - 09/Aug/12

Lead P2.
cbeard - AltLd O/S - 09/Aug/12 with Katherine Ross

I led P1
Katherine Ross - AltLd O/S - 09/Aug/12 with Charlie Beard

led second pitch - lovely and bold
Katex - AltLd - 08/Aug/12 with Ben

Led p1. Just in time, before it started to rain
cem - AltLd O/S - 28/Jul/12 with Johan Piper

With Steph. Went around the corner too low so made it hard for myself.
martin c - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/12

3kidsandanorton - Lead - 21/Jul/12 with Kay

Led pitch 2, which was a bit damp and quite exciting.
cameron_hall - AltLd O/S - 20/Jul/12 with Steven Holmes

twem - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/12 with Andy Harbach

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jun/12

Hidden - AltLd - 16/May/12

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 16/May/12

joeruckus - AltLd - 12/May/12

Lead all pitches. Nice relaxed first pitch. Made a bit of a hash of belay, Julie wearing a rucksack was not a great plan ! P2 under the overhang was not technically that hard but good exposure; hardest part was deciding whether to go higher under the overhang (off balance) or hand traverse round on middle ledge.
jandyd05 - Lead O/S - 07/May/12 with Julie Anglesea

I lead P1 and Lee lead the rest in one go - we had just climbed Yellow Crack prior to this route, so in that sense it was not strictly onsight.
masa-alpin - AltLd β - 05/May/12 with Lee P

Nice and exposed.
chrissloan84 - AltLd O/S - 04/May/12

Led P2, lovely exposed pitch.
Cardi - AltLd O/S - 04/May/12 with Chris S

bob johnson - 25/Mar/12 with Rich Ball

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/12

Daniel Heath - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/12 with Remus

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Mar/12

Hidden - AltLd - Mar/12

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Gavin1979 - 2012

Hidden - 2012

adie84 - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

sgl - AltLd - 14/Nov/11 with andy

Benji led first pitch, I led second pitch, Been on my list for a while :)
Jillybean - AltLd - Nov/11 with Ben Ota

brockers - AltLd O/S - 28/Oct/11 with Maggie Bass

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Oct/11

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead - 31/Aug/11

Lawrie Brand - AltLd rpt - 25/Aug/11 with Tom Sampson

raining
bwestwood - AltLd - Aug/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Jul/11

Pitch 2 for me.
ritchierich - AltLd rpt - 14/Jul/11 with Sera Roberts

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/11

kdalzell - Lead - 12/Jul/11 with Liam Fleming

hotfeet - Lead - 10/Jul/11 with Jo

Danny Crump - Lead - 10/Jul/11 with Sarah Pentelow

Shorty83 - AltLd O/S - 04/Jul/11 with Dan Parry, Giles

Good fun climb although first belay is a little crowded for 3 people.
Onion - 2nd O/S - 04/Jul/11 with Nick A, Giles W

arduff - AltLd - 04/Jul/11 with hannah appleton, Isi Oakley

isi_o - AltLd - 04/Jul/11 with Andy Duff, Hannah Appleton

Hidden - AltLd - 04/Jul/11

Tim Bateman - AltLd - 03/Jul/11 with Alistair Crawford

Led first pitch. Nearly came off the last step; wrongly positioned to make move.
Wyn Bach - AltLd O/S - 01/Jul/11 with Ifan Roberts

lead pitch 2
Dan Geh - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/11 with Thomas Geh

tgeh - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/11 with dan geh

Hard!
ceaddiso - 2nd - 26/Jun/11 with Conan

Conan - Lead - 26/Jun/11 with Clare A

MO P1, RD P2
rd20 - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/11 with Martin

smolders - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/11 with Robert D

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Jun/11

Hidden - 14/Jun/11

Nice Climb.
Bennykr - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/11 with Noodles

Love the rusty bolt!
Noodles - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/11 with Ben Reinsch

Noodles - 11/Jun/11 with Oliver Dowen

Lead 2nd pitch 4c,
Simon Cahill - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/11 with Sam Benson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Jun/11

lead pitch 2 and 3. very polished
hedgehog77 - AltLd O/S - 04/May/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11

r.greaves - AltLd - 22/Apr/11 with neil

Hidden - 19/Apr/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Apr/11

MikeLeeds - AltLd rpt - 09/Apr/11 with John McMahon

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Mar/11

oliverharold - AltLd - 28/Mar/11 with Nicola Jasieniecka

chris687 - AltLd O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Jo Sumner

Jo Sumner pitch 1 Chris Andrews pitch 2 Jo Sumner pitch 3
Jo sumner - AltLd O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Chris Andrews

Hidden - Lead - 04/Mar/11

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Mar/11

P1 me, P2 Craig. Need to come back and lead the second pitch, nice exposure
monkeyboyraw - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/11 with Craig Letham

possibly cleaned recently?? first pitch not really vegetated. Great 2nd pitch, led both
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 20/Feb/11 with Darren McMaster

shed_hed - 2nd O/S - 20/Feb/11 with Graeme Hammond

bsmedz - 2011 with Ben Westwood

Rory Shaw - 2011

David Smith - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

sionjosh - 2011

djromberg - 2011

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Nov/10

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Nov/10

thomasaneurinsmith - AltLd - 06/Nov/10 with Hannah Gibbs, Emily Tickle Edwards

Kate took care of first pitch, dogged it under the overhang eventually, who needs style. cool route.
Storm Hunter - AltLd dog - 24/Oct/10

djking1983 - AltLd O/S - 18/Oct/10 with Andy Smith

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Oct/10

nice, p1
Duncan Campbell - UKC - AltLd O/S - 13/Oct/10 with Jimmy G

Nice. p2
farmus21 - AltLd - 13/Oct/10 with Duncan

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Oct/10

carl_123 - AltLd O/S - 10/Oct/10 with dougy allan

Chris wilson - AltLd O/S - 07/Oct/10 with Paul

Lead first pitch.
bullethead - AltLd O/S - 26/Sep/10 with Richard Yorke, Matt Howe

Ld p2. Quality route. Really enjoyed the traverse. NEver that hard but great setting.
jezb1 - AltLd - 25/Sep/10

Lead the easier first pitch, very enjoyable well protected 1st pitch. Great overhand on 2nd pitch, glad I didnt lead it though.
mike_uk82 - AltLd - 25/Sep/10

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Sep/10

Led P2. Bold but exciting! Really enjoyable.
CharlotteJelleyman - AltLd β - 02/Sep/10 with Ifan Roberts, Hannah Lowther

Lead p2. Realised I had climbed it before, as my first ever lead!
sam820 - AltLd rpt - 31/Aug/10 with Terry

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 31/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd dog - 30/Aug/10

Brilliant!
edmitchell - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10 with charlotte goedvolk

Olli-C - AltLd O/S - 25/Aug/10 with dad

Guy Wilson - AltLd - 10/Aug/10 with Dave Chapman

chapmand - AltLd - 10/Aug/10 with Guy Wilson

1st pitch: JL led, DJ 2nd, DL 3rd 2nd pitch: DL led, DJ 2nd, JL 3rd
fragglerock - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/10 with Duncan Johnstone, Jon Lumb

peter myers - AltLd O/S - Aug/10 with Simon Bennet

pldarch - AltLd - 13/Jul/10 with Sam

sambosanquet101 - AltLd - 13/Jul/10 with Peter Darch

Dunx - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/10 with Shell

sbc - 2nd - 05/Jul/10 with Dunx

beci tointen - Solo - Jul/10 with my uncle carl

KevB - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Chris W

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/10

HIGHTOWER - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/10 with Danny Attwood

really great position on p2
twoplates - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/10 with frith wood

1st pitch Garth. 2nd pitch Ali
Ali H - AltLd - 19/Jun/10 with Garth

The crux pitch was great fun, excellent last move.
wilchivs - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/10 with Sarah Joyce

Awesome, despite rope getting stuck on first belay and Dave having to untie, and down climb on the middle of the rope. Hard second pitch!
gilbert - 2nd O/S - 13/Jun/10 with Dave Tait

The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 12/Jun/10 with Christian Minett

Moomin.williams - AltLd - 11/Jun/10

sthame - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/10 with Martyn Middleton

Led P2, the last few moves are a bit sketchy.
Noodles - AltLd - 03/Jun/10 with Sam Thame

Lawrie Brand - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/10 with Phil, Dave R

sian88 - AltLd O/S - Jun/10

Ows - Lead - Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 31/May/10

davesb - AltLd O/S - 27/May/10 with Tom Wilson

taw - AltLd - 27/May/10 with Dave sb

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/May/10

Hidden - Lead - 22/May/10

Hidden - 2nd - 22/May/10

Did first crack of yellow crack and traversed left after to belay in the corner (simon) then I lead P2 of shadow wall. Both pitches great fun!
Sardien - AltLd O/S - 18/May/10 with Simon Moore

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/May/10

Irn Bruce - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with Nikki Smith

Hidden - 2nd - 15/May/10

with Nick
Grabtheslab - Lead - 15/May/10

Katex - AltLd O/S - 10/May/10 with Simon Edwards

hazeysunshine - 2nd - 09/May/10 with Alex, Ann-Marie

Matt_L_Robinson - AltLd - 03/May/10 with leo rampin

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/May/10

StevieG_7 - 2nd O/S - 02/May/10 with Tom Moores

Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/10

Jack Doyle - AltLd O/S - May/10 with Eva

Hidden - Lead - 23/Apr/10

Barry D - Lead - 18/Apr/10 with Trish

Lead P1
Sankey - AltLd - 17/Apr/10 with Jon

jshields - AltLd - 17/Apr/10 with Steve Ebbens

The crux move isn't much harder than the moves appeaoching it. Take some big cams if you have them.
Glyn Davidson - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/10 with Mike Doyle

Liam FLeming - 13/Apr/10 with nick

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10

we climbed out right of the tree with big white trunk on p1 for more fun and challenge. scary exposed top move under over hang which is alot harder than it looked. Jesse fell there better in one pitch
dan ely - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10 with jesse

Hammy - 2nd - 08/Apr/10 with Dan Platt, Lucy Woods

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/10

Bold, glad I didnt do the second pitch
partz - AltLd O/S - 23/Mar/10 with Tom Dudley, Alex Wade

Matt lead first pitch, I lead second. Really good exposure, very fun!
tdudley - AltLd O/S - 23/Mar/10 with Alex Wade, Matt Everett

Alex Wade - AltLd - 23/Mar/10 with Matt Everett

Od - AltLd O/S - 07/Mar/10 with Sam Radcliff

samrad - AltLd - 07/Mar/10

Good climb, scary step out to the right near the top...
SaraKaikk - 2nd - Mar/10 with Matt Burdekin

Hidden - 2010

Sam Marland - 2nd O/S - 2010 with Phil Wilkinson

DuckingFesperate - Lead - 2010

Hidden - 2010

mcgrathr - 2010

Rob Evans - Lead dog - 2010

danny33 - AltLd - 2010

Hidden - AltLd - 2010

dkd - Lead O/S - 2010 with Al

not too wet, quite fun
zach.stone - AltLd O/S - 31/Oct/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Oct/09

Some bold moves (for VS) at the top of the 2nd pitch. I lead the 2nd pitch.
jimbomann - AltLd O/S - 17/Oct/09 with pete neale

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/09

Led P2
theotherpetehill - AltLd - 14/Sep/09

chrisallan - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead - 09/Sep/09

Lead pitches 1, 3. Liz pitch 2
joeydurkin - AltLd O/S - 29/Aug/09 with Liz F

3 Names - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/09 with Sumee Holloway

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead rpt - 21/Aug/09

If you ab from P2 belay make sure your mate doesn't get unfeasibly stuck in a holly bush.
John Dale - Lead - 17/Aug/09 with Allen Abramson

Hidden - AltLd - 13/Aug/09

dts - AltLd O/S - 13/Aug/09 with Mark R

Soft VS if you don't mind exposure - short, well protected crux.
mark20 - AltLd O/S - 13/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/09

Caroline Talbot - Lead rpt - 25/Jul/09

Sam lead first pitch 4a, Boris lead pitch two 4c (very exposed and exhilarating)
BorisVBlade - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/09 with Sam Davies

Lead first pitch, Boris lead second (was a bit wet!)
sam820 - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/09 with Boris Korzh

Led P1.
Brendan - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/09 with Paul

Grabtheslab - Lead - 03/Jul/09 with nick

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Jun/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/09

R = p1 = 4a / c = p2 = 4c
RachelP - AltLd - 24/Jun/09 with Chris

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09

2nd pitch, I think I did the awkward way :(
fizzychewitt - AltLd - 11/Jun/09 with Jayne

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Jun/09

sonnenstern - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/09 with Adam

adam06 - AltLd - 02/Jun/09 with Sophie Wilmes

Rob84 - AltLd O/S - 31/May/09 with Chris James

Andy_B39 - AltLd O/S - 30/May/09 with Phil Wilkinson

Led both pitches
porridgefan - Lead rpt - 30/May/09 with Andy Barnes

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/May/09

led pitches 2+3 in guide as one runout
davidwright - AltLd O/S - 02/May/09 with Simon B

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/09

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Apr/09

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Apr/09

and Ed Macbain. I led P1.
bridget143 - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Rob Middleton

Led second pitch. Lost hex under roof - bah! Excellent right traverse move
mick1jones - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/09 with Dave Wilkinson

mike_uk82 - 2nd - 13/Apr/09

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Apr/09

richardhopton - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Lee Richards

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Apr/09

Yikes! Did skylon b4hand, led crux and dropped my large wires for unknown reasons.
Ewan Russell - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/09 with Holly Bangor uni

Lead first pitch
harri - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/09 with Bob and Edwin

Hidden - AltLd - Mar/09

en7edh - 2nd - 2009

MarkFoster - 2009

Hidden - 2009

paulh1967 - 2009

Seymore Butt - 2009

Lloyders - Sent - 2009

Chris M - 2009

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2009

mikemartin - AltLd - 26/Sep/08

mock student MIA assessment
thompson1000 - 2nd - 24/Sep/08

Donald Kelly - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/08 with Andy Palmer

michael burrows - 2nd - 13/Sep/08 with john heap

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Sep/08

Richard Kinsman - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/08

2nd pitch
Whealiebob - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Chris

Great route!! Good gear and exciting positions.
jamie ward - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/08 with Stuart Williams

dicky79 - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/08 with Nicola

Hidden - Lead dnf - 21/Jul/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/08

RCrockford - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/08 with Andy C

@ndy - AltLd - 15/Jun/08 with RCrockford

1st pitch was also enjoyable.
JWB - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Mark

Lead 4c pitch under roof.Exposed and awkward but gear is bomber- great route.
bobpilgrem - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/08 with Bob/Nic

liz77 - AltLd - 08/Jun/08 with Cherrie

Led pitch 2. An excellent route.
victim of mathematics - AltLd O/S - 01/Jun/08 with Mark (Refugee)

Lead crux.
Nigel Mackwood - AltLd O/S - Jun/08 with Zoe van den Bosch

mje1398 - AltLd O/S - 31/May/08 with John M

John84 - AltLd O/S - 30/May/08 with Dan Maddison, Gary Kempster

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 25/May/08

P1
haydng - AltLd O/S - 24/May/08 with Rachel

RMG - AltLd - 24/May/08 with haydng

Lisa's first trad route
porridgefan - Lead O/S - 21/May/08 with Lisa Trollope

Getting a long too polished now.
ritchierich - AltLd rpt - 19/May/08 with Steve Joynson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/May/08

Hammy - AltLd - 14/May/08 with Joe Gittins

overexposure - 2nd O/S - 06/May/08 with LB

John HW - AltLd - 05/May/08 with Cath

oliverthomp - AltLd - 02/May/08 with Richard Atkinson

cherad - AltLd O/S - 02/May/08 with oliver thompson

First pitch
Mike Goldthorp - AltLd O/S - May/08 with Ben Alsford

Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/08

Hidden - Lead - May/08

crag_monster - Lead - May/08

LP 2nd
barni - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/08 with Lou

Dave Mason - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/08 with Trev Tatler

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Mar/08

Hidden - Lead - Feb/08

Matt Vigg - 2008

lee richards - Lead O/S - 2008 with robbo84

Sean Kelly - 2008

2852tomki - AltLd - 2008

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Dec/07

Em66 - 2nd - 24/Oct/07 with Mat

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Oct/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Oct/07

robgilchrist - Lead - Oct/07

Hidden - Lead - Oct/07

kleinej - AltLd - 29/Sep/07 with Patrick

paddygoodwin - AltLd - 29/Sep/07 with Jason

dicky79 - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/07 with Pete

JHPritch - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/07 with Ifan

Gman - AltLd - Aug/07 with Dave

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/07

dan gibson - Solo O/S - 04/Jun/07

Hidden - AltLd - 02/Jun/07

sgl0jd - AltLd - Jun/07 with Lizzie

Med - AltLd O/S - 25/May/07 with Jess

Carly - AltLd O/S - 24/May/07 with Richard

the juicy dangler - AltLd O/S - 24/May/07 with carlene hill

JonBrett - 2nd - 03/May/07 with Ben

a_d_tru - Lead - 15/Apr/07 with Becky

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Apr/07

Carol lead P1 and I got 2/3 together. P2 is the one to do, very airy brilliant position but pretty polished.
SGD - AltLd - 15/Apr/07 with Carol Umarova

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Apr/07

jl - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/07 with Penny

pennyb - 2nd - 08/Apr/07 with Jon

MikeLeeds - AltLd - 06/Apr/07 with John Forrester

richardr - Apr/07

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Mar/07

lead the 2nd pitch (4c), bold but well protected
littledave - AltLd O/S - 04/Feb/07 with Ian Parkhouse

Andy Ray - 2nd O/S - 04/Feb/07 with Ian and Dave

clive-greenwood - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/06

Did this in 3 pitches rather than 2. 1st upto the holly tree which was scrappy followed by a pitch up to the corner which my partner really enjoyed then onto the final, excellent traverse under the overhangs.
j.ostrowski05 - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/06 with Michael Darowski

mark4344 - AltLd O/S - 13/Oct/06 with michel schonewille

Hidden - AltLd - Oct/06

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/06

Mike Parker - 2nd - 09/Sep/06 with Dan Parker & James Ayre

mikelaing - Lead O/S - Sep/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/06

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/06

matt.woodfield - AltLd - 06/Jul/06

Jonny M - 2nd O/S - 03/Jul/06 with Tim Gledhill

Easy 1st pitch. 2nd pitch has more exciting traverse.
My Gravity - AltLd β - 22/Jun/06 with Angel

Mike H - AltLd - 03/Jun/06 with Jamie Smith

Hidden - Jun/06

Darragh - Jun/06 with Rob

A Crook - AltLd O/S - 31/May/06 with Ray Lindley

K Wall - AltLd - 28/May/06 with Martin

AC 1st
AngelaC - AltLd - 28/Apr/06 with Dieter Cole

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Feb/06

Hidden - 2006

akhughes - 2006

Hidden - 2006

alpinismo.uk - 2006

I did second pitch.
ritchierich - AltLd O/S - 09/Aug/05 with Bob Dickson

Adam Booth - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/05 with Ed Booth

Ed Booth - AltLd - 10/Jul/05 with Adam Booth

mattyork2 - 2nd - Jul/05 with Rory Shawe

Chesh - Lead - 25/Jun/05 with Lawrence

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Jun/05

sammoore - Lead O/S - Jun/05 with David Crombie

FrankW - AltLd O/S - 03/Apr/05 with Peter T, Joe

Christopher Owen - 2nd O/S - Jan/05 with Simon Owen

Stone Muppet - 2005

Tim W - AltLd O/S - 13/Nov/04 with Rich Fitch +1

Danhan - 2nd - 13/Nov/04 with Tim

nicholas Barrowclough - Solo - 01/Aug/04

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/04

Hidden - Lead - Jul/04

2nd pitch (which I led) is a cracker
r0b - AltLd O/S - 15/May/04 with Andy Smith

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/May/04

Hidden - AltLd - 12/May/04

Rampikino - 2nd - 09/May/04 with Smiler Cuthbertson

SteveM - AltLd - 02/May/04 with AS

jparry75 - Lead - May/04 with m.evans

Hidden - AltLd - Apr/04

rogerskews - AltLd - Apr/04 with Phil

Roget - Lead O/S - 2004

Hidden - AltLd - 02/Oct/03

joe c ook - Lead O/S - Jul/03 with T. Gore

Lead all pitches
PenJD - Lead - 07/Jun/03 with Lianna Scholes

BIgYeti86 - 2nd - Jun/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/May/03

I led crux pitch.
Phil West - AltLd O/S - 23/Mar/03 with Chris Tan

Derek Ryden - AltLd rpt - 2003 with Pete Griffiths

five - AltLd O/S - Oct/02

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Sep/02

unfit - AltLd - 04/Aug/02 with ruth

The Pylon King - AltLd O/S - Apr/02 with Keith

keith leonard - 2002

gonggashan - 2002

Led P2
Different Steve - AltLd rpt - Aug/01 with Mervyn Lamacraft

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Jul/01

DerwentDiluted - AltLd - Jun/01 with Chris Pearson

fenn123 - 2001

seanyt - AltLd - 2001

sims - 2nd O/S - Aug/00 with Nick

Rock Fairy - 2nd - 2000 with Carl

Ed Booth - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Aug/99

Hidden - Lead - 03/Jul/99

Led P1 & P3
Different Steve - AltLd O/S - Jun/99 with Martin Hore

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/99

Tarquin - 1999

Hidden - 1999

BenTiffin - Lead - 29/Sep/98

Hammy - Lead - 21/Sep/98 with Nick Banks

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/98

Lead 2nd pitch.
Paul-Michael - AltLd O/S - 14/Feb/98 with Paul Nurse

zero six - Lead O/S - 1998

Julian Wedd - 1998 with A. Brierley

Hidden - Lead - 1998

Hmnn...
rachm2004 - 2nd - 14/Sep/97 with Ian L

John Pickles - Lead O/S - 03/May/97 with Dave Elliot

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Mar/97

brady - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/96 with John Cameron

Paul Boardman - AltLd O/S - 24/Aug/96 with Iain Boardman

With Duncan Hornby. Pitches 1 DR:2.GH:3.DH.
iskra2000 - AltLd - 06/Jun/96 with Danuska Rycerz

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/May/96

GuyM - 1996

Hidden - Lead - 14/Oct/95

Ched - Lead O/S - 1995 with Glanfor

Hidden - Aug/94

colin milton - AltLd - 18/Jun/94 with eric milton

Led pitch 2 & 3
Tom Vivian - AltLd - 16/Jun/94

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/94

Marti999 - AltLd - 1994 with kev

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 1994

chris sm - AltLd O/S - 23/Oct/93 with Martin Sime

Chris Ellis - AltLd O/S - 23/May/92 with Ernie Horrocks

WB - 1992

Dave Rumney - 1992

PeteCheung - AltLd - Sep/91 with Alan

Hidden - Lead - 15/Jul/91

sdht - 1991

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Oct/90

Raggar - Jun/90 with Steve P

Hidden - 1990

alan moore - 1990

Led pitch 2, only 1 hard move.
Iain Thow - AltLd - 26/Nov/88 with Nick Hunt

babymoac - Lead - 30/Oct/88 with Will Stead

Budge - AltLd O/S - Jun/88 with Richard Teed

Hidden - Solo - 28/Apr/88

Hidden - 2nd - 1988

Hidden - 1988

Hidden - Lead - Jul/87

Hidden - Lead - 21/Apr/87

steve prior - AltLd - Aug/86

steve taylor - Lead - Jun/86 with Simon Leigh-Smith

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/May/86

johnkeith - 1985

John Marsland - Lead - 05/May/84 with Dave Mould and his dad

Ian Clare - 1984

Melok - 1984

Hidden - AltLd - 1983

jasper11 - 1983

JohnHutch - Lead - Oct/82 with L

biggianthead - 05/Sep/82 with F

nigehughes - Lead - Sep/82 with Hugo Collier

John Brayshaw - 2nd O/S - Jul/81 with Plas-y-Brenin

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/81

Brian Wilderspin - AltLd - 07/Feb/81 with Steve Gough

Hidden - 2nd - 1981

stuartberg - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/80

Nigel Coe - 04/May/80 with Pat Stanley, Steve Portnoi

Steve Woollard - Lead - 1980 with Andy Allaway

Hidden - Lead - 1980

Falko - Lead O/S - 1980 with Chris Plant

Bruce Kerr - Lead - 18/Apr/79 with Brian Carson

Ken Taylor - AltLd - 15/Sep/78 with Jonathan Lagoe

Hammy - Lead - 27/Aug/78 with Jonathon Stacey

mikej - Lead - 17/Aug/78 with Tony Waite

Ian Jones - AltLd O/S - 1978

Pedro50 - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/77 with Steve White

GeoffG - 2nd - 23/Oct/76 with tony bowker

Bob did the crux pitch (2)
jmr - AltLd - 20/Jun/76 with Bob Howard

beaumap - AltLd - Jun/76 with Bernie Green

Henbury MC Meet Whit Weekend 28th May - 30th May 1976
Andy Chubb - Lead - 28/May/76 with Robin Brooke Smith

Mark Kemball - AltLd - 24/Aug/75 with Bill Wheeler

Hidden - AltLd - 23/Aug/75

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/75

Mike Owen - Aug/75 with John Roberts

Bolt Phobia - Lead - 16/May/75

This was quite fun led in big boots! Not that I'd recommend it.
Rog Wilko - Lead - Oct/74 with Nick Tulley

Nigel Bond - AltLd - 11/May/74 with Pete Bott

granitbahn - AltLd - 1974

Andy Say - Lead - 1974

Derek Ryden - AltLd O/S - Apr/73 with Geoff Riding

rogerskews - AltLd - 1973 with Tony, Tim Galvin

Tom V - 1972

auldscotal - AltLd O/S - 1971 with Bangor Outdoor post grad folk

RichardMc - 2nd - 19/Aug/69 with Derek Bull

tapley - AltLd - 03/Aug/69 with Dave Hearnshaw

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 14/Sep/68 with Paul Long, Bob Knapton

'Make a complete mess of crux'
Gordon Stainforth - AltLd - 21/Aug/68 with John Stainforth

RichardMc - Lead β - 17/Apr/68 with Brian Daniels

mikej - Lead - 25/Feb/68 with Pete Kokolaar

mikej - Lead - 17/Jun/67 with Frank Chester

Failed on Phantom Rib and Kaisergebirge Wall same day.
eroica64 - 2nd - 26/Sep/66

mikej - Lead dnf - 21/Sep/66 with Ted Markham

Al Morrow was in the party too.
eroica64 - Lead - May/66 with Percy aka Mike Spring, Bill Harrison

Pete Williams. I loved this route especially the mantelshelves pitch.
oldmanofmow - AltLd - 12/Sep/60

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VS92 of 101
easy VS3 of 101
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HS0 of 101
easy HS0 of 101
hard 5a0 of 95
5a0 of 95
easy 5a2 of 95
hard 4c8 of 95
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Style of ascent

Soloed4 of 627 (0.6%)
Lead133 of 627 (21.2%)
Followed70 of 627 (11.2%)
Bouldered1 of 627 (0.2%)
Alt Leads346 of 627 (55.2%)
Unknown73 of 627 (11.6%)

'Climbed'306 of 627 (48.8%)
clean O/S292 of 627 (46.6%)
clean β5 of 627 (0.8%)
clean rpt19 of 627 (3.0%)
dogged3 of 627 (0.5%)
dnf2 of 627 (0.3%)