A Sense of Doubt*** E4 6b
[A sense of doubt, 3 kb]18m.

Rockfax Description
Good pegs allow the climbing on this impressive wall to be savoured without the seriousness of the next two routes. The crux is easier for the tall. © ROCKFAX

UKC Logbook Description
Well pegged, practically a sport route - F6c+

Dave Knighton 1978

Photo: A sense of doubt © Graeme Cook
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This climb is in 109 logbooks, and on 10 wishlists.

Second go. Hard to read with no chalk on the holds. Felt easy on second attempt when holds were visible.
Jacob Bloodworth - Lead G/U - 02/Sep/15

kelliroberts3 - 2nd - 02/Sep/15 with Aaron

done with the clips in. red hot sweaty evening!
Andy Chambers - Lead RP - 12/Aug/15 with Dave Ormerod

mshorter - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/15 with steely

came off the crux move. my excuse? too sweaty!
Andy Chambers - Lead dog - 07/Aug/15 with Dave Ormerod

Clean after 1 attempt on top rope. Must try and lead it.
Andy Chambers - TR RP - 06/Aug/15 with Dave Ormerod

steely - 2nd - 02/Aug/15 with Pete gunn, duncan campbell

sparkass - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/15 with Peter Gunn, Iain Steele

petegunn - 2nd - 02/Aug/15 with Iain Steele, Duncan

Hidden - 2nd β - 20/Jul/15

jesse rees - Lead β - 19/Jul/15 with Joshcastril, kieran fallows

Pete Rigby - Lead O/S - 23/May/15 with Kelli Roberts

Hidden - Lead RP - 21/May/15

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/May/15

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/May/15

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/15

Matt Cooke - 2nd β - 18/Apr/15 with Will Taylor, ChrisDavis

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/15

samrad - 2nd rpt - 17/Apr/15 with james G

Dropped the top crux on the amnesia flash. Clean on 3rd go.
farmus21 - Lead RP - 17/Apr/15 with Sam Radcliffe

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/15

cant believe some people are suggesting its 6b+....found it hard saying that the footholds around the crux were dripping
scott quinn - Lead G/U - 04/Apr/15

Matt Amos - Lead - 04/Feb/15

Hidden - Lead - 2015

Hidden - 2nd dog - 17/Jul/14

A cheeky top rope, then lead.
tmawer - Lead RP - 06/Jul/14 with MazElden

Hidden - TR dog - 02/Jun/14

Nick Clement - Lead - 26/Apr/14 with Rachel Antill, Paul Figg

Paul Figg - 2nd β - 26/Apr/14 with Rachel Antill, Nick Cement

aerobiee - Lead RP - 19/Nov/13 with Heather Thexton

Glenn Sutcliffe - 2nd - 02/Oct/13 with Woody

Superb, thought i was off on a couple of occasions. Managed to stay in balance and just stretch far enough for the holds :) 5 pegs
petegunn - Lead - 21/Jun/13 with Davina

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/13

Lovely technical, crimpy climbing on tiny feet. Had to pop for crimps twice as I couldn't reach so I would agree that its harder for the short!
catblack - 2nd β - 16/Jun/13 with Andy Barker

Nicely chalked by the previous ascentionists. A great technical route on which height would be an advantage.
Andrew Barker - Lead β - 16/Jun/13 with Cat Black

Hidden - Lead β - 16/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/13

fulton333 - TR RP - 04/May/13

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Apr/13

Rachel Somerville - 2nd dog - 31/Mar/13 with Nik

Mackinclimb - Lead RP - 17/Feb/13

Cool delicate moves
arrang - Lead RP - 01/Oct/12

Hidden - TR dog - 05/Aug/12

Cassidy - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/12 with Helen Cassidy

gb05 - Lead rpt - 07/Jul/12 with Jonny Gumery

Gumery - 2nd β - 07/Jul/12 with Gaz

Flashed on marks gear.
BRoe - Lead β - 17/Jun/12 with Mark Roe

Seconded previously. Gives a good Buzz!
MarkRoe - Lead rpt - 17/Jun/12 with Ben Roe

JulesV - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/12

Shauna - 2nd O/S - 06/Jun/12

Hidden - 2nd dog - Jun/12

Hidden - Lead β - 01/Apr/12

dodfoster - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/12 with liam taylor

didn't feel like a sport route to me. but the climbing is really steady with good holds never too far away making you feel mostly secure when on it. it was good sustained climbing and felt around 6b/+ to put a sport grade on it never 6c+. nothing harder than British 6a on it. top route ***
samrad - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/12 with james G

gb05 - Lead RP - 05/Mar/12 with Matt Forshaw, Claire Hoolohan

Hidden - 2nd β - Mar/12

Peter Holder - Lead O/S - 29/Feb/12 with Dom Bush

So close, bottled it moving to the third peg and had to reverse the moves. Next time.
gb05 - Lead dnf - 28/Jan/12 with Jonny Gumery

Gumery - TR dog - 28/Jan/12 with Gaz

Tricky to read - hard work all done by Kev on the onsight. E3 6a probably fair for the over-6ft, but E4 6b should still be the guidebook grade.
PeteH - 2nd O/S - 13/Nov/11 with Kev Avery

Quality route! Ive got to get back and lead this.
MarkRoe - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/11 with Woody

Good climbing, but only 6b/+. Never the 6c+ folks suggest.
akhughes - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/11

John Brayshaw - 2nd dog - 18/Jun/11 with Laura Justice, Dan

datoon - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/11 with W

C coldwell-storry - Lead β - 04/Jun/11 with rob lay

Graham Iles - Lead - 17/Apr/11 with Neil Cooper

GPN - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/11 with Annette

gb05 - TR O/S - 16/Mar/11

Not a pretty sight!
Tightsgirl - TR - 16/Mar/11 with Gareth Brading

held on by a timely tug on the rope from Will
mbambi - 2nd O/S - 24/Sep/10 with will williamson

Hidden - TR rpt - 08/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd dog - 12/May/10

Andrew1 - Lead O/S - 11/May/10 with Hulda

Hidden - 2nd - 11/May/10

Hidden - 2nd - 09/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/May/10

Best route in trowbarrow. If your 5' 10" it'll be e3 if less e4.
ian caton - Lead O/S - 01/May/10 with Abi

chalkyjim - 2010

tmawer - TR O/S - 31/Oct/09 with Glynn

datoon - Lead - 02/Jul/09 with K

1 fall
mattish2000 - TR dog - 16/Jun/09 with Nick

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/May/09

Hidden - 2009

didn't feel like a sport route
ewen - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/08 with jeb

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 13/May/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/May/08

Al Evans - 2008

Hidden - Lead RP - 12/Nov/07

Hidden - TR β - 11/Nov/07

Shaw Brown - TR RP - 19/May/07

After a age of working it, I did the route clean when I first went onto the lead. Well pleased!
Whitt - Lead RP - 23/Mar/07 with Danny

Finally got it clean
Whitt - TR RP - 19/Mar/07 with (Shunted)

Hidden - Lead RP - 25/Feb/07

Hidden - TR dog - 15/Feb/07

Did this when it was E4 thought it was easier than the last time I top roped it..... Harder second time now much older...
Dave Westby - TR - 2007 with Rob Lewis

Whitt - TR dog - 30/Nov/06 with Sophie

Almost onsighted it, but fell off after the last hard move! but got it second time so its all ok i guess
chicken88 - Lead RP - 19/Sep/06 with Will Barton

Brown - Lead dnf - 17/Aug/06 with Beth

Hidden - Lead RP - 08/Jul/06

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Apr/06

jim robertson - 2006

Hidden - 2nd dog - 23/Sep/05

goi.ashmore - Lead RP - 03/Sep/05 with Duncan Irving

nicholas Barrowclough - Lead - 08/Oct/04 with Mark

nige - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/02 with mark hounslea

whispering nic - Lead O/S - Jul/01 with Graham Iles

Hammy - TR - 06/Nov/99

dashed - Lead O/S - 1995

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Owen W-G, KieranFallows, ashtond6, Graham Booth

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