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Hangover** E1 5b

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[The arms are a giveaway !, 3 kb]A superb route with two contrasting pitches. High in the grade. 1) 5a, 20m. Step right into the appealing groove, and climb it boldly to a belay ledge. 2) 5b, 25m. Move rightwards round the arete and climb the groove until it is possible to move left into the final groove. Follow this with difficulty to finish on a large ledge. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, Ultimate E1 ticklist, Alex's Wales ticklist.

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This climb is in 286 logbooks, and on 18 wishlists.

Pitch 1. Glad - pitch 2 was hard.
Motown - AltLd O/S - 17/Jul/14 with Luke

Led P2 after a long day in the sun, felt pretty hard.
Mr Tickle - AltLd O/S - 17/Jul/14 with Will

2nd pitch
mikeshewring - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/14

As one pitch, brilliant boldish for the first part the a bit sneaky upto the ledge and the nice crack fondLing to the top
Andy Peak 1 - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14

In one pitch.
Kevster - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/14 with Nibs

Phill Mitch - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/14 with gaz

Pete P1, I P2, was good. K.Wall is harder though.
ColinD - AltLd - 15/Jun/14 with Peter Sterling

did pitch 2 more like e2 me thinks
Alistair Corbett - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/14 with Matt Robinson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/14

Matthew Robinson - 2nd - 01/Jun/14 with Mark

wi11 - AltLd rpt - 16/May/14 with Anna G

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/May/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/May/14

Great route. first pitch was a little bold with some amazing moves on the second pitch. not worthy of E2 but definitely sustained E1
Jonny Nick - AltLd O/S - 03/May/14 with eleytim

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/14

Hidden - May/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Apr/14

will moy - AltLd O/S - 30/Apr/14 with tom thorne

mark mcgowan01 - 21/Apr/14 with Owan Jones, John Burrow

Bob - 2014

Hidden - 2014

oliverpcain - Lead O/S - 2014

Hidden - 2014

Tim Sparrow - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mop449 - 2nd β - Sep/13 with Jerry Handren

redjerry - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/13 with Danny

Pitch 2
ollyroberts - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/13 with Luis Parsons

Hidden - Lead - 22/Aug/13

Bristoldave - 2nd β - 10/Aug/13 with LukeW

wi11 - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/13 with Ben T, Brian

kdalzell - 2nd - 18/Jul/13 with Liam Fleming

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Jul/13

Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 17/Jul/13 with James West

led p2. hard - but then everything here seems universally hard whatever the grade! very good though, exciting moves up finishing groove.
AlexD - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/13 with Alasdair

freudy_love - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/13 with Pete Macpherson

gripped01 - AltLd - 30/Jun/13 with Dave Tait

Rapped after P2 - used point of aid to leave ground - steep climbing
MFB - 2nd - 20/Jun/13 with MB

ksjs - 2nd rpt - 18/Jun/13 with jo

wolf.leeb - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/13 with Huw

John Nuttall - 2nd - 10/Jun/13 with Andy H

lead p1
markalmack - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13 with chris todd

Done in one pitch, hardest part is top pitch, gear after you step over.
JonathanJones - 2nd O/S - 25/May/13 with Curly Chris

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13

in 1 pitch
Chriswallis2 - Lead O/S - 25/May/13 with Beef Cake

tlmarjot - Lead O/S - 25/May/13 with Nicolas Duboust

Nicolas Duboust - 2nd - 25/May/13 with tim

A nice bold slab on the first pitch and a nice roof exit on the second. Cool route.
Murilo Lessa - 2nd dog - 25/May/13 with Eduardo Camiletti

First pitch was fun - a bit wet then a bit bold then a bit damp again. Ian led off up the groove on the second pitch and got as far as placing some gear at the foot of the traverse ledge but then got spooked, so I ended up leading on his gear. The crux section up the groove to the ledge (which Ian did!) was not easy - lots of holds but they manage to be not be very helpful. Exciting 5b finish up the hanging groove. E2 5c
Misha - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with Ian W

Hidden - 2nd - 06/May/13

Dizz - 2nd O/S - 05/May/13 with EJ

Did as one long pitch, definitely felt like E2 to me.
Dan724 - AltLd O/S - 02/May/13 with Ollie Halford, Kyle Williamson

First pitch seconded clean, 2nd pitch 1 fall
Fiona McFarlane - 2nd - 02/May/13 with Robert Dufton, James Mchaffie

rd20 - 2nd O/S - 02/May/13 with James McHaffie, Fiona

Derek Ryden - AltLd O/S - Apr/13

Owain Llewelyn - Lead - Feb/13 with Gareth E

dswansonlow - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/12 with Matt Roper

P2. Not high in the grade.
Ed Babs - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/12 with Iain Moodie

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/12

pie_eater_pete - AltLd O/S - 09/Aug/12

1st 5a
bwestwood - AltLd - 09/Aug/12 with pete sargeant

Did it in one pitch, ok if you extend your gear and not crossing the ropes = massive rope drag at the top ! Oh a good idea would be to read the guidebook description, DOH.....
mr mills - Lead rpt - 08/Aug/12 with paul simkiss

Ali did p1 got the crux 2nd pitch. Moves ok in groove once find the holds.
Dave89 - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/12 with Ali

Luke Brooks - 2nd - 20/Jun/12 with Hannes

Hannes B - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/12 with Luke

wynaptomos - 2nd rpt - 24/May/12

Led p2.
Alex.M-M. - AltLd O/S - 16/May/12

i lead the first pitch with a cool jump out into the main grove with no gear that was pretty cool. midge lead the second pitch which is an awesome effort. great fun, good hard E1 :)
cripper - AltLd O/S - 16/May/12 with midge

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Mar/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Mar/12

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Mar/12

P2
sam820 - AltLd O/S - 26/Mar/12 with Rich

Andrew Wilson - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Tony Womersley

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

benchwarmer - 2nd rpt - 01/Oct/11

First pitch was wet, second pitch was brilliant
Ollie B - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/11 with S.Harris

SamuelHarris - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/11 with O.Burrows

nice, quite hard for E1, but not too bad
willoates - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/11 with Lotta

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Aug/11

barni - Lead rpt - 03/Aug/11 with luke

benchwarmer - 2nd O/S - 02/Aug/11 with Luke, Owen Barnicott

P1 is underprotected. P2 was good and interestingness was sustained.
masa-alpin - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/11 with Lee P

Second pitch tough for E1 I thought, Some fairly bold 5b moves above the peg..
Lawrie Brand - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/11 with Matt Etheridge, Neil Phillips

Hidden - Lead - Jul/11

al99 - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Andy Woolston

joeydurkin - 2nd - 14/Jun/11 with Andy w

Led P1 slightly bold but real nice climbing, another great route in the Pass
Noodles - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Ben Reinsch

Good route, lead 2nd pitch
Bennykr - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Noodles

HIGHTOWER - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/11 with Helen

Did in 1 pitch taking the groove left of the peg
smallerrich - Lead - 04/Jun/11 with Dan R

hetaher - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/11 with Tom Livingstone

Tom Livingstone - 2nd - 02/Jun/11 with Heather

Jessie Rushbrooke - AltLd - 30/Apr/11

tim newton - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/11 with dan ely

dan ely - AltLd rpt - 18/Apr/11 with tim

Sophie Nunn - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Floris

Done in one pitch, not recommended. Too hard for E1
david morse - Lead rpt - 08/Apr/11 with Lawrence

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 06/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11

Rory Shaw - Lead rpt - 22/Mar/11

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Dan Mckinlay - 2011

In one, awesome.
Owain Llewelyn - Lead - 25/Oct/10 with Gareth E

Nice. P1... Into the dark...again!
farmus21 - AltLd - 14/Oct/10 with Sam Radcliffe

P2- climbed into the dark then used head tourches at top. really well protected climbin on big holds in a fantastic situation. good for E1. ***
samrad - AltLd O/S - 14/Oct/10 with james G

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Aug/10

Kev - pitch 1; me - pitch 2.
DavidR - AltLd O/S - 16/Aug/10 with Kevin Bowser

i lead p2- 5a
dan ely - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/10 with terry

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/10

led first pitch
adamscottthomas - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/10 with Kafoozalem

Alex T (RAFMA) - AltLd - 17/Jun/10 with Rimon

In one pitch. Ropedrag was the order of the day.
Ri - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/10 with Anja Jones

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/10

Dave Reeve - AltLd O/S - 04/Jun/10 with Steve Hordley

Bex_M - 2nd - 31/May/10 with Barra

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 18/May/10

E2 in da book. Did it in one pitch. Deserves 2 stars.
Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 09/May/10 with Tom Briggs

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2nd - 09/May/10 with Richard Kirby

drcorbasisgod - Lead O/S - 03/May/10 with Tim Guilliams

Ows - Lead - May/10

JulesV - Lead - 18/Apr/10 with Shauna Cunningham

hrgcb - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/10

Ed F - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/10

lead the crux pitch.
Ewan Russell - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/10 with ed-v12

Hidden - Lead rpt - 16/Apr/10

In one pitch.
Luke Brooks - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/10

barni - 2nd rpt - 10/Apr/10 with luke

Hidden - AltLd β - 10/Mar/10

The best climb I have ever done, really nice bridging on pitch 1, the front face on the 2nd pitch was so much of a thrill ride and cutting loose on the final section of the groove really topped it off!
Laurence Everitt - Lead O/S - 07/Mar/10 with Louise Cowie, James Brewer

oooeese - TR - 07/Mar/10 with james brewer, laurence everitt

Rather exposed!
JCB42 - 2nd O/S - 07/Mar/10 with laurence_ev, oooeese

mr mills - 2010 with Elfyn (chang)

Hidden - 2010

Speeddemonsi - Lead O/S - 2010

Hidden - 2010

soph - 2010

In 1 pitch
Dave Rumney - Lead - 18/Oct/09 with Paul Drew

i led first pith (bold but steady 5a) Ben the better protected 5b second pitch a nice E1
Duncan Campbell - UKC - AltLd O/S - 05/Oct/09 with Ben Alsford

Jonathan Emett - 2nd O/S - 16/Sep/09 with Matt

Matt Bennett - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/09 with Jonathan Emett

Hidden - 2nd dog - 12/Sep/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/09

Both pitches as one. Felt like E2 to me
Mike Goldthorp - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/09 with Jono Hughes

Hidden - 2nd - 24/May/09

Easy e1, try s s special if you think it's e2 and you'll realize it's not. Nice enough route, 2 stars
centurion05 - AltLd - 12/May/09 with dave g

nutallovertheface - AltLd O/S - May/09 with Sam Farnsworth

Brown - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Henry

Hidden - 05/Apr/09

2nd pitch
barni - Lead rpt - 02/Apr/09 with Oli

Ram MkiV - AltLd O/S - 18/Mar/09 with Guy

lead first pitch
GuyVG - AltLd O/S - 18/Mar/09 with 5c Steve

Both pitches led. One of the best multi-pitch climbs ive done, fanastic and involving.
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09 with Lee Cooper

awesome route !!
leepip - 2nd - Mar/09 with al mason

Seymore Butt - 2009

Hidden - 2009

2nd pitch.
galpinos - AltLd O/S - 25/Sep/08 with Ben

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Sep/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/08

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Sep/08

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/08 with sam read

Chickened out on the lead of the second pitch. Pritty bold climbing. Need to go back and face my fear!
crag_monster - 2nd - Jul/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/08

Nicos - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/08 with frazer

Tim M - Lead - 30/May/08 with Emma

Joe Dove - 2nd - 30/May/08 with kev

climbergg - 2nd - 30/May/08 with cheesesarnie

haydng - Lead rpt - 25/May/08 with Rachel

RMG - 2nd - 25/May/08 with haydng

datoon - Lead O/S - 17/May/08 with RT

1st time leading P1 - pretty thin. straightforward but requires steady approach. great position when leaving belay on P2. a great route.
ksjs - Lead rpt - 12/May/08 with jose

Hidden - May/08

Hidden - Lead - May/08

ian caton - Lead O/S - May/08 with Abi

Matt Vigg - 2008

linked both pitch
barni - Lead O/S - 2008 with Si

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - AltLd - 2008

Hidden - 2008

the juicy dangler - AltLd O/S - 20/Oct/07 with carlene hill

Carly - AltLd - 20/Oct/07 with Richard

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/07

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/07

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/07

Tricky little number for an E1.
ritchierich - AltLd O/S - 02/May/07 with Bob Dickson

Pythonist - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/07 with Dave Barlow

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/07

Great route, bold first pitch which you should send your mate up, as the second pitch is brilliant, lovely airy juggy climbing and a nice steep groove to finish.
Chad123 - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/07 with Emily

Led P1
Different Steve - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/07 with Simon Chandler & Guy Reid

nice enough climb.....found lots of gear on it.
Morgan Woods - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/07 with Gareth

blancbleu - 2nd O/S - 20/Mar/07 with Tim

tumbling wizard - Lead - Mar/07

Rob Kennard - 2007

ewen - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/06 with paul james

led pitch 1. Thought second pitch pretty tough - steep and lots of hard moves. Good lead by Neil.
Si dH - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/06 with Neil Furniss

shoulders - Lead - 24/Jul/06 with andy sharp

steve taylor - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/06 with Steve Williams

Shaw Brown - AltLd - 08/Jul/06 with Chris King

Chubbard - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/06 with C Godfrey

AngelaC - AltLd - 07/Jun/06 with Rob

Bella - 2nd - 29/Apr/06 with Chris

Hidden - 2006

rob.grafton - AltLd - 2006 with Bruce

spidey - AltLd - 30/Aug/05

Led P2. Stuck to groove rather than moving R onto the face for holds and peg. Had led little at E1 at the time, found it v hard indeed.
Owen W-G - AltLd O/S - 20/Jul/05 with Jim

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/05

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/05

mike lawrence? - 01/Jun/05

a_radiohead_fan - 2005

akhughes - Lead - 2005

John Pickles - AltLd O/S - 06/Sep/04 with Naomi Fisher

nicholas Barrowclough - Lead - Apr/04

keith leonard - 2004

James B - 11/Oct/03 with Phil

Mark Riley - Lead O/S - Jun/03 with Stuart Greenall

Tim Steward - 04/Apr/03 with Adam Thomas

Northen Vince - AltLd dog - 02/Jan/02 with James

On BMC international meet
Dave Musgrove - AltLd - May/01 with Italian guy?

RossG - 2001

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/99

Roget - Lead O/S - 02/May/99 with jon

Ched - Lead O/S - 1998 with Glanfor

Julian Wedd - 1998

Hidden - Lead - 1998

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Jun/97

biggianthead - 14/Sep/96 with C

jfletcher - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/96

Hidden - Lead - 03/Apr/96

GuyM - 1996

frost - AltLd - May/95 with J Turner

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/95

chris sm - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/94

Hidden - Lead - 1994

Hidden - Lead - 29/Apr/93

Hidden - AltLd - 1993

Andy Say - Lead - 14/Aug/92

stuart100 - AltLd - May/92 with Pete Goodwin

WB - Lead O/S - 1992

mark-abz - Lead - 26/Aug/91 with Andy W

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Jul/91

ChrisJD - Lead - 27/Apr/91

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Apr/90

led 1st pitch
michael burrows - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/90 with brian jones

whispering nic - Apr/90 with Rob W

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Jun/87

The best route
howifeel - Lead O/S - 1987 with Morgan

Neil R - 2nd - 24/Sep/86 with Richard W

Nick Biven - Lead - 06/Jun/86

partner was Roy .....
David Smith - Lead - 27/Oct/85

Bruce Kerr - AltLd - 22/Oct/85 with Bill Wilson

GordonHart - AltLd O/S - 1985

sadams - Lead - 22/Aug/84 with Chris Thwaites

John Marsland - 2nd - 22/Apr/84 with Dave Mould

Lone Rider - AltLd - 21/Apr/84 with Alan Shand

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - Lead - 1984 with Andy Heald

Melok - AltLd - 1984

Nigel Bond - AltLd - 05/Jun/83 with Charlie Leverton

Hidden - AltLd - 18/Apr/81

Hidden - 1980

Hidden - 1980

Mark Kemball - 03/Jun/79 with Sarah Bridge

Hidden - Lead - 15/Apr/79

RichardMc - AltLd O/S - 27/Aug/77 with Dave Langmead

Nic Robinson - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/77 with Paul Greenland

Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 1977 with Billy Jones

Mike Owen - 18/Apr/76 with John Roberts

petemeads - Lead - 1974

granitbahn - AltLd - 1974

mikej - AltLd - 16/Jun/68 with Geoff Williams

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hard 5c0 of 56
5c2 of 56
easy 5c1 of 56
hard 5b34 of 56
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Style of ascent

Lead86 of 286 (30.1%)
Followed43 of 286 (15.0%)
Toproped1 of 286 (0.3%)
Alt Leads106 of 286 (37.1%)
Unknown50 of 286 (17.5%)

'Climbed'132 of 286 (46.2%)
clean O/S132 of 286 (46.2%)
clean β3 of 286 (1.0%)
clean rpt16 of 286 (5.6%)
dogged3 of 286 (1.0%)