Doctor's Choice IV 4
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Third pitch not in condition. A fine attempt by a Steve thwarted one move from the top!
joe king - AltLd dnf - 01/Mar/15 with steve pettit

In retrospect, the clue was in the guidebook. The final corner is much harder when there is no ice. A complete scratchfest with very little gear. Farewell number ten nut - you held well.
steveP - AltLd dnf - 01/Mar/15 with Paul Rowlands

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 25/Feb/15

Hidden - Lead dnf - 25/Feb/15

Lead 2 nd pitch-no snow field- v thin and run out. Tim lead 1and 3 -lean conditions and hard for grade ?
bobpilgrem - AltLd O/S - 14/Feb/15 with Tim

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Feb/15

Hard sustained climbing for grade I felt. Headed right from belay at top of second pitch then straight up towards two pegs. Possible a bit off route?
Nemo9 - AltLd - 12/Feb/15 with Jim

Pitches 1 & 3
danJBA - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/15 with James Hoar

Kayan - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/15 with Dan Abbatt

plain kitten - 2015

Led first pitch to cave. Very thin and hard. Colin tried p2 but no ice or neve and slabs too sketchy so we abbed off.
stratandrew - Lead dnf - 29/Dec/14 with Jim Symon, Colin Maddison

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Mar/14

benclimbing - AltLd O/S - 23/Mar/14 with Al Todd

Great condition, went left and led through an exciting mixed overhang.
mes32 - AltLd O/S - 11/Mar/14 with Mick

Banked out so only grade 3 after the first wee icefall..
luckyjim - AltLd - 02/Mar/14 with D Helm

elliptic - Solo - 02/Mar/14

I fell on the first pitch traversing onto the ice pillar from the snow slope on the right; probably not the easiest way of climbing this route. The fall was arrested by one of the ice axes placed at the top of the pillar. The axe leash held.
efetunc - AltLd dog - 01/Mar/14 with Rafal Malczyk

KKilroy - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/14 with Lou

Efe fell off leading 1st pitch but continued succesfully to the end
Rafal Malczyk - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/14 with Efe Tunc

I went to sling a horn, and almost pulled it out onto my belayer. About 30m above the vertical ice, on the climber's right.
theamerican - AltLd - Mar/14

Hidden - 2nd - Mar/14

Danny Crump - Lead O/S - 28/Feb/14 with Stephen Beard

Direct as icey.
Ollie B - AltLd O/S - 26/Feb/14 with S.Bennett

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Feb/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/14

Started one rock bulge too far left. Perhaps a bit less steep. Really solid ice, but pretty badly run out due to our lack of ice gear. Lead P1 and P2 as 1 and belayed off an in situ sling for the top, not very interesting, pitch. Still quite banked out.
MSchobitz - Lead O/S - 22/Feb/14 with USMC

We went up the icy P1 of the Prodigal principal and finished up this. The normal first pitch seemed to be buried.
JHiley - 2nd - 22/Feb/14 with Micki, Darren

Really in condition. Plenty of ice and Snow. Loved it!!!
magicmartin - 2nd O/S - 22/Feb/14 with Susie, Ryan

Brilliant neve and great choice by Phil
kj001 - 2nd - 07/Feb/14 with Phil Dowthwaite

super conditions
phil64 - Lead O/S - 07/Feb/14 with keith Jones

olekemi - AltLd O/S - 25/Jan/14 with Mark G

joe_lancs - Lead O/S - 25/Jan/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Jan/14

Led 1, 2 (together on a 60m rope) and last pitch (snow slope), Drew lead pitch 3 (good exit right from the belay). Generally good conditions but lots of soft snow on the approach and on the traverse, in situ tat was useful. Managed to get a few screws in.
Andy Hewison - AltLd O/S - 18/Jan/14 with Drew Connelly

Late start after driving up from Cheshire. Climb in good nick but heinous weather conditions. Ended up abseiling off at end of 2nd pitch
Andrew Sloan - AltLd dnf - 18/Jan/14 with Steve Grove

plastered in thick neve & chewy ice. soft touch today.
Brucemacrosson - AltLd - 16/Jan/14 with David Small

simon kimber - AltLd O/S - 16/Jan/14 with Mike Thomas, James Turnbull

jamesturnbull - AltLd - 16/Jan/14 with simon kimber, mike

Piers Harley - AltLd - 15/Jan/14 with Jeremy Windsor

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jan/14

in good condition. in good weather
wookie667 - AltLd O/S - 14/Jan/14 with hay

stuart34 - Lead O/S - 14/Jan/14 with Gabi

Hidden - AltLd - 13/Jan/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Jan/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Jan/14

Good conditions today.
Ken Applegate - Lead - 12/Jan/14 with Donna & Phil

Phil_Hall_97 - 2nd - 12/Jan/14 with ken Applegate, Donna Ryan

SuperMike64 - AltLd O/S - 12/Jan/14

malteserEd - 2nd - 12/Jan/14

More snow than ice overall. Crux was pitch 3 at grade 4, pitches one and three III-ish.
MadProfessor - Lead - 12/Jan/14 with Mr Scibberas

route in very easy condition today
morsy - AltLd - 11/Jan/14 with gerhard mors

morsg - AltLd - 11/Jan/14 with Stephan Mors

Good value, but top pitch was a bit of an anticlimax.
planetmarshall - Lead - 11/Jan/14 with Liam

Lead p1 (interesting ice which took 3 screws), 2nd p2 (precarious crux) and p3 (easy II snow!!?)
JHiley - AltLd - 11/Jan/14 with Patrick

Ly-Cilph - AltLd O/S - 11/Jan/14 with Joe H

graeme gatherer - 11/Jan/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Jan/14

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 08/Jan/14 with Debbie

BallsOfSteel - AltLd O/S - 08/Jan/14 with IainMunro

Hidden - AltLd - 08/Jan/14

4 pitches. Led 1 and 2. Not much gear today but final ice corner very fat
abbeywall - AltLd - 05/Jan/14 with K, FM

Hidden - 2014

Hidden - 2014

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Dec/13

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Mar/13

Hidden - 2013

wheelsucker - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Dec/12

First and final pitch. Then topped out. Final pitch the best.
tsl42 - AltLd O/S - 15/Dec/12 with Liam Brown, Andy mumc

A great wee line..Ice, turf, mixed and a well protected crux. Ab into Alladins Couliour.
simon_D - AltLd O/S - 19/Dec/11 with Karen Mc

edmitchell - Lead O/S - 16/Dec/11 with Yashvi Wimasalesna

yashvi - 2nd - 06/Dec/11 with Edwin Mitchell

Hidden - AltLd dnf - 27/Feb/11

Hidden - AltLd - Feb/11

Led the traverse pitch.
Kirill - AltLd O/S - 29/Jan/11 with Igor Gotlibovych

Upper section would have been easier with some ice.
ig248 - AltLd - 29/Jan/11 with Kirill

jhawton - AltLd dnf - 28/Jan/11 with Tom Anderson, Griff

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Jan/11

The line avoids the main challenge but an excellent top pitch which I battered to pieces. Sorry.
Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/11 with Tim Clarke

Took first pitch, pretty thin traverse, crux pitch was really fun climbing. Definitely 5 with conditions as they were today.
geoff.comley - AltLd O/S - 18/Jan/11 with Pat Ingram

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Jan/11

As a couple of medical students, this was a must!
allyrocke - AltLd O/S - 04/Jan/11 with Robbie

rcammack - AltLd O/S - 04/Jan/11 with Alistair Rocke

in 4 pitches, good ice lower down but thin higher up, only just enough.
KeithW - Lead O/S - 02/Jan/11 with Paul Lucas

only completed first two pitches, great intro to winter climbing
stef050 - 2nd dnf - 02/Jan/11 with graeme watson

Excellent route, good belays and not bad gear although the top pitch could of done with more ice.
lucasp - 2nd O/S - 02/Jan/11 with keith lmc

Alco-nomic - AltLd - Jan/11 with Geoff

adie84 - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - 2011

David Sherratt - Lead O/S - 2011

Hidden - Lead - 14/Nov/10

Very sketchy first pitch. Not in condition at all. Rest of climb excellent, especially the long pitch up the corner.
jacobfinn - 2nd β - 16/Mar/10 with John Jackson Falkirk Council, Brian Adam

First pitch was horrible, didn't go far enough left so had a horrible step up, 3rd pitch was right up the corner on good ice but was hard work, sore calfs, breathing out my arse and proper scared:((
Badam - 2nd O/S - 16/Mar/10 with Jason, John Jackson

meant to go to the lum but total pea souper made it difficult to find Sneachda!!! Lines were taken so we took the first avalaible and locate-able option. Proved to be really serious today Dave's P1 weighed at VI, 5 in my books! Back to car for 12.45 though.
French Erick - AltLd O/S - 14/Mar/10 with Dave Kerr

With Paul Knowles.
Captain Solo - AltLd - 07/Mar/10

Saved the day after binning Lochan cos of too much snow. Very icy. Good wee route.
IceBun - AltLd - 07/Feb/10 with Rossco

tallthinmonkey - AltLd O/S - 04/Feb/10 with Russell Small

Traverse pitch and top corner pitch
The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 30/Jan/10 with Mat Dowsett

In 5 pitches, though the 5th was a solo snow plod. Good route, quite testing.
Rampikino - AltLd - 30/Jan/10 with Paul Cubbins

MouseHunter - 2010

Hidden - 2010

akhughes - Solo O/S - 2010

Poor route choice, thin ice, too much powder and a lot of digging for gear....
liamo333 - AltLd O/S - 2010

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Dec/09

Abbed off after the second pitch due to scary climbing a running out of light.
andymoin - AltLd dnf - 27/Dec/09 with James Dunn

s kennedy - AltLd O/S - 21/Dec/09 with ryan, mark mosgrove

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Dec/09

mulletcocktail2000 - AltLd O/S - 21/Dec/09 with mark and stuart

graeme gatherer - Dec/09

Silly route choice today. No ice and unconsolidated snow made this piss poor line insecure and far from fun. Bailed after 2.5 pitches of the crapest mixed climbing we have ever had the mispleasure off. Still beats the office though. Shoulder felt fine.
jazzyjackson - AltLd dnf - 05/Mar/09 with Jimbob

ShaneHoubart - AltLd O/S - Feb/09 with Ale

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Mar/08

thin ice
jamesturnbull - 2nd - Mar/08 with aiden

barney_edin - AltLd - 06/Feb/08 with Christian L

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jan/08

Greg Boswell - 24/Jan/07 with peter bosewll (dad)

Southern Mark Smith - 2007

Hidden - 2007

andyinglis - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/06 with neil adams

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Mar/06

Neil Adams - AltLd O/S - 2006 with Andy Inglis

sea_lene - Lead O/S - 2006

Smelly Fox - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/05 with James

Jamie B - AltLd - Feb/04 with Kenny Grant

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/03

Les Ross - AltLd - Feb/03 with Andy Beavis

frost - AltLd - Jan/03

Hidden - AltLd - 18/Feb/02

Hidden - Lead - 01/Feb/02

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Feb/01

ruaridhmac - 2nd - 03/Feb/01 with Helen Rennard

charlesmfrench - AltLd O/S - Nov/00 with Mark Vandome

Hidden - 2000

Hidden - Lead - Nov/98

Lone Rider - AltLd - 1996 with Pete mayhew

Hidden - AltLd - Feb/95

Hidden - AltLd - 1993

TheAndyBarker - Lead - Jan/91

alkira - 2nd - 18/Dec/90 with james turner, bruce goodlad

Bruce Kerr - AltLd - 11/Jan/87 with Paul Dunkley

Hidden - AltLd - Dec/85

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