Pretzl Logic** E2 5c

Rockfax Description
A wandering route with a good finish. Start at a big tree just left of the groove of Venom.
1) 5c, 15m. Climb slabby rock to a small overlap. Make a baffling step left to bypass the roof and continue more easily up and left to a tree belay.
2) 5b, 30m. Move left from the stance and climb an inverted-V chimney to easy ground. Scramble up to join Nifl-Heim and follow it to the stance below its top pitch.
2a) 5b, 30m. A good alternative. Climb up to join Venom. Follow its middle pitch.
3) 5c, 15m. Step left to a crack and climb this to a capping roof, pull over and finish up the short crack. © ROCKFAX

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Hidden - AltLd rpt - 06/Sep/15

Only did the top pitch which is a belter write out there. Easy E2 5c just for that one pitch the best jams on a E2 ever. We did bashi bazouk then prob a vegetated 4a pitch to get up to the belay. All in all made a very good I recon 2 star soft E2. Will come back and lead the first two pitches.
Dale - Lead - Sep/15 with johny

I led P1 and P3. P1 hard as move left at roof and over on to slab. P1 gets a bit scruffy after good start. P3 excellent - like a classic grit route. Heard P2 is a bit scruffy so instead of P2 Ben led P2 of Venom at 5b. This makes a good combination overall.
climberchristy - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/14 with Ben Cole

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/13

Nick Biven - 2013

First pitch was fine. Second two pitches were an absolute battle! Had to try the crux on the second pitch several times before I got it. Hung around on the top pitch too long and got so pumped laybacking up the crack. Just about managed to pull round onto the face which was good because apparently my cam popped at the top of the crack as I pulled round. Felt exhausted and sick by the top but glad I got it as it was becoming a personal battle.
shed_hed - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/12 with Dougie Swanson-Low

The last pitch was worthwhile, but the rest felt a little messy.
dswansonlow - 2nd O/S - 27/Oct/12 with Darren McMaster

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Sep/12

Led P1, with some gear in situ as Tom couldn't work out the crux. Tom led P2 as P2 of Venom, lovely pitch. Led top pitch which was a good learning experience in jamming for me!
Cardi - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/12 with Tom R

Top pitch absolutely belting pitch.
Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 19/May/12 with Tom Doldon

top crack was sopping wet and ran out of steam on last stretch resulting in a rest
Tom Doldon - Lead dog - 19/May/12 with sam simpson 48

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/May/12

Top pitch
Glyn - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/11 with Luke

P.1 Pretzel Logic with P.2 Venom
Owain Llewelyn - AltLd - 27/May/11 with Gareth E

P 1+3 . Awkward moves left for the 1st, pumpy 2nd, great position on the 3rd. Great variety. E2
mynyddresident - AltLd O/S - 24/May/11 with wolf

wolf.leeb - AltLd O/S - 24/May/11 with nic

Top pitch
Liam FLeming - Lead - 09/Apr/11 with karen dalzell

benchwarmer - 2nd dog - 06/Apr/11 with Liam

lead the first 2 pitchs will be heading back for the last one soon
Liam FLeming - Lead - 06/Apr/11 with iwan, conrad

Just did top pitch E2 5c for all pitches
barni - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Liam fleming

last pitch wet did the corner.lead first
barni - AltLd O/S - 16/Feb/11 with luke

Lead 2nd pitch, bit shortlived but good fun. 1st and 3rd pitches both have brilliant varied climbing, well worth doing.
Mike Goldthorp - AltLd O/S - 20/Jan/11 with Matt Burdican

Seymore Butt - 2011

PAJames - 2011

mr mills - Lead O/S - 02/May/10 with Gareth

self belay - did not finish (wet rock under overhang + last climb of a 14 hour day and tired.
HansUDes - TR dnf - 02/May/10

mr mills - 2010 with ioan d

1st pitch only - rained.
Dave Rumney - Lead - 07/Jun/09 with Sean Roberts

just the top pitch when pete finished pizzle puzzle
metal arms - Lead dog - 03/Jan/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/07

Hidden - 2nd dog - 08/Apr/07

IOAN D - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/06 with Mills

Bern - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Jun/03

Hard! Only got E1 5a in old guidebook!!
Simonfarfaraway - AltLd - 2002 with Dave A

Ched - Lead O/S - 1997 with Glanfor

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Jun/95

Hidden - 1995

Bob - 1990

Pitch 1 only
Alan James - UKC and UKH - Lead - 13/May/89 with Phil Baker

SPD224 - AltLd - 1989

ChrisJD - Lead dnf - 04/Jul/87

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Jun/86

Hidden - Lead - 28/Apr/85

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1985

andy gittins - 1985

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Nov/83

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - Lead - Jun/83 with Phillippa Mathews

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Lead - 1981

got a bit lost on upper pitches
uphillnow - AltLd - 1980

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