Great Western* VS 4c
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This climb is in 184 logbooks, and on 10 wishlists.

hard in the grade
Lucylou19 - 2nd - 14/Oct/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/14

Wet, wet, wet. Greased-off on P2 and P3 but came back to the belay and climbed the pitches clean. Finished up Poor Man's Peuterey. Would be delightful if dry.
Pete_Frost - AltLd RP - 01/Sep/14 with Jeannie Sherwood

Hidden - 2nd dog - 01/Sep/14

Hidden - Lead - 16/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead - 09/Aug/14

andy75 - 2nd - 13/Jul/14 with ioan jones

Did the roof of monkey puzzle as a alternative route. Climbing in the rain can be fun :D
ItsHuwHaribo - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/14 with Mel Roberts

Suggest you merge pitch 1-2 & 3-4, but pitch 4 is knee deep in green, probably best avoided! 2 Stars for the start and end, so 2 stars if you avoid pitch 4.
sshandy - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Zoe Pickering

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jun/14

PeteWilson - AltLd O/S - 29/May/14 with John P

backed off, pretty wet / greasy on slab p1... one to come back to.
ads - AltLd dnf - 26/May/14 with Julie

Led P1, 4-5. Took ages to make the move off the first tree.
Monkey_Alan - AltLd O/S - 26/May/14 with Max Streeton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/14

Lovely climb and well protected. I attempted to go direct up to 2nd belay but was thwarted by my lack of ability.
highclimber - AltLd O/S - 15/Mar/14

nodwas - AltLd - Mar/14

rbharries - AltLd - 17/Dec/13 with ollie mentalz

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/13

magsb - 2nd - 11/Aug/13 with John Roberts

Col Kingshott - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/13 with Chris

Quite dirty, thought P1 4c, P2 4b, P3 hard 5a. Rest looked very overgrown so finished up PMP which provided an excellent finish.
Steve Woollard - Lead - 03/Aug/13 with Samantha Roach

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/Aug/13

Hidden - 26/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/13

Adventurous, we like.
Louis Hume - Lead - 01/Jun/13 with Oli

SteveM - Lead - 04/May/13 with Kat

kitkat78 - 2nd O/S - 04/May/13 with SteveM

SimonvanDam - AltLd - 27/Apr/13 with Matt Roberts

roberts1234567890 - AltLd - 27/Apr/13 with Simon Van Dam

bit of of a combination, Led P1: stated up this then climbed the direct to the 5a cracks as for The Quakermen to the 2nd belay but without using the tree routes as I couldn't see where to traverse right. Pitch 2 Trevor led the awkward corner before doing the upper pitch of Poor Man's Peutery into the final section of Great Western. Good combination HVS 5a this way?
Graeme Hammond - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13 with Trevor Wilson

Was convince this was pmp its not! A much beter start to pmp
Andy Peak 1 - Solo - 29/Mar/13

Ray Sparks - Lead O/S - 28/Feb/13 with adam

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Feb/13

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2013

Led P1&2, tough moves on both for 4b. Finished up PMP. Really good.
victim of mathematics - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Dave

Pete Nugent - AltLd rpt - 26/Aug/12 with Pete Blackburne (Blacky)

Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 20/May/12 with Tom Dolden

Tom Doldon - Lead O/S - 20/May/12 with sam simpson 48

me p1 max p2. tricky and poorly protected traverse on p1 - dthought 4c rather than 4b. slanting crack on p2 is getting a bit vegetated. ran out of time so abbed off before final pitch (which isnt really the point of the route anyway)
pebbles - AltLd rpt - 12/May/12 with max

Hidden - AltLd - 06/May/12

pitch 1 and 2
A Crook - AltLd O/S - 06/May/12 with Dave Almond

Linked pitch one of this with pitch two of Monkey Puzzle and last pitch of Harvey Proctor Spanking
Dave Almond - AltLd O/S - 06/May/12 with Adam Crook

linked with monkey puzzle for a great combo. Lead p1&2
Jones_88 - Lead - 06/May/12

Hidden - Lead - 06/May/12

adam06 - 2nd - 06/May/12

Great adventure! Doesn't give up right to the end. Led P1 and P3&4
Leelogs - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12 with SCC

Led P2/P3/P4 in one pitch
EllieWoods - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12 with Martin

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Apr/12

Hidden - 13/Apr/12

Missed the traverse on P1 to go direct at 5a (the Quakermen). 2nd on the 4c pitch but laybacked it...don't, pumped stupid, step left the edge instead. Last chimney cheeky as well.
Zoomer - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/12 with Baz Whale

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/12

Tricky in places! Fairly high in the grade. Scared myself leading pitch 2. Lost 2 nuts to the god of fearful fumbling. And nearly lost a shoe to a thrutchy chimney. But excellent value climb!
katherinesydney - AltLd O/S - 31/Mar/12 with leeds james

Marq - AltLd O/S - 31/Mar/12 with Dave P LMC

First three pitches before joining pmp. Very wet third pitch was entertaining!
vertigo714 - AltLd O/S - 11/Mar/12 with Fresher Dave

Callum Anderson - 2012

kabutsu - Lead - 2012

think it was this route! Josh lead a different 1st pitch not in guide, on the left of Great western. I lead a tricky step across right onto 2nd pitch and up the v, past some very loose blocks which made it worrying!! Then joined PMP
dainbramaged999 - Lead O/S - 20/Nov/11 with Joshh Forber, Andy Farnworth

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Aug/11

needs a clean.
willoates - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/11 with Iona

First three pitches only, then onto pitch three of PPP. Lead first pitch. Mike lead second and third.
Donald Kelly - 2nd O/S - 11/Jul/11

Tim Bateman - AltLd - 02/Jul/11 with Alistair Crawford

Hidden - Lead rpt - 19/Jun/11

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Jun/11

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Jun/11

some good pitches on this. nice mini adventure route, fairly straightforward though with one tough move
stvredmond - AltLd - 06/Jun/11 with Sean mercer

Good climb, very difficult corner on the third pitch.
iwanap - AltLd O/S - 05/Jun/11 with Gerwyn

Hidden - 09/May/11

Chose to do twin cracks first pitch of Quakerman instead (HVS?5a)
rd20 - AltLd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Jason

Robert did P1 of Quakermen (replaces P1 & P2). I did P3 and P4 of Great Western. Robert P5. Hard really to recommend this climb except for the first couple pitches. The scramble in the middle and exit chimneys are not great.
kleinej - AltLd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Robert

dan ely - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/11 with jon (ukc reading)

HVS start from the E2 into the normal finish, did the last pitches
Richard Kemble - AltLd O/S - 20/Jan/11 with Bubbles

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Dec/10

APRS - AltLd - 20/Nov/10 with Aaron O'Leary

popov86 - AltLd - 20/Nov/10

First two pitches.
joeydurkin - Lead dnf - 03/Sep/10 with Pete smith

mikelaing - AltLd - Jun/10 with Ian Whitehead

The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 09/May/10 with Lee Bonner

carlh - Lead O/S - May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/10

SAF - 2nd - 11/Feb/10

simeclimb68 - 2010

Hidden - 09/Nov/09

willson - Lead - 12/Oct/09 with Andy

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead - Aug/09

Hidden - AltLd - 19/Apr/09

en7edh - 2nd - 2009

Seymore Butt - 2009

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/May/08

Hammy - Lead - 16/May/08 with Joe Gittins

Trobbo - AltLd - 01/May/08 with martin bennett

sammoore - AltLd O/S - 09/Feb/08 with Richard Hirst

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Was looking for poor mans and ended up this, not quite what was expect but a dam good climb all the same! (Only got as far as the nose on old mans tho)
Eccentric - Lead O/S - 04/Nov/07 with Helen Maris

MikeT - Lead rpt - Sep/07 with JR

featuresforfeet - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/07 with SecretSquirrel

Climbed first pitchs to gain Monkey Puzzle
Dan 85 - 2nd O/S - 03/Jun/07 with Jonny

steve mee - AltLd - 20/May/07 with Andy Petner

I led straight up to the second stance (instead of detouring right then back left), felt like HVS. Mike linked 3rd and 4th pitches and I finished off the route.
Siderunner - AltLd - 06/May/07 with Mike P

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/07

ritchierich - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/07 with Bob Dickson

Matt Tranter - 2007

Hidden - Lead - 25/Oct/06

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Aug/06

Chesh - Lead - 25/Jun/06 with Martin

My Gravity - AltLd β - 19/Jun/06 with Angel

a_d_tru - 2nd O/S - 28/May/06 with Alex, Carol U

Hidden - AltLd - 06/May/06

Hidden - 2006

Superb route!
richw2k2 - AltLd O/S - 15/Oct/05 with Dale

Dale - AltLd O/S - Oct/05 with rich

John Kettle - Lead - 2005

a_radiohead_fan - 2005

Variant of first 3 pitches only (up to the nose on PMP), in mistake for the normal start of that route!
Simon Caldwell - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/03 with Carmen

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Mar/03

Derek Ryden - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/02 with Anna

auld al - AltLd O/S - May/01

steve prior - AltLd - Aug/00 with Andy C

zero six - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - 2000

another great day out with Stuart - he fills you with confidence and I would second him anywhere ( just about )
Paul Bishopp - 2nd - 02/Sep/99

Led 1st, 3rd (crux) and 5th pitches
Chris the Tall - AltLd - May/99 with Dave Gurney

Simonfarfaraway - AltLd - 1999 with Steve Hastings

Rog Wilko - Lead - Jan/97 with Debbie Wilkinson

Ched - Lead O/S - 1997 with Glanfor

Paul Boardman - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/96 with Iain Boardman

sdht - Jun/96

five - AltLd O/S - Apr/96 with TW

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Sep/95

babymoac - Lead - 08/Jul/95 with cash

completed p1 unable to continue as second vomiting, think he missed all the holds.
colin milton - Lead dnf - 08/Jun/95 with eric milton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1995

Hidden - Lead - 20/Jul/94

Hidden - Lead - 30/Apr/94

Richard Weller - 11/Jul/93 with Robin Cowan

Budge - Lead O/S - May/93 with Ellen Williams

Hidden - AltLd - 1993

Fell off leading 4c pitch- gear held!
jacque - AltLd - Sep/92 with Chris M

Hidden - AltLd - 31/May/92

frost - 2nd - May/91

Hidden - 1990

Did it first in 1964.Soloed on a number of occasions, first in 1990
David Smith - Solo - 1990

andy gittins - Lead - 1990

Hidden - Lead - 29/Oct/88

michael burrows - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/88 with pete roberts

Hidden - Lead - 28/Feb/88

Babika - Lead - May/85 with John Rowland

Ian Jones - 1983

Melok - 1983

nigehughes - Lead - Jul/82 with Graham Hartley

Hidden - 2nd - May/82

Andy Fielding - AltLd - 13/Sep/81 with Mike Gilbert

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1981

Ian Clare - 1980

William Robertson - Lead O/S - 1980 with Emily, Steve, Shaun etc

ewar woowar - Lead - 1980

Hidden - Lead - Oct/79

Mark Kemball - AltLd - 16/Sep/78 with Hammes

RichardMc - AltLd - 05/Dec/76 with Don Hammond

Bolt Phobia - AltLd - 25/Feb/76

steve L - AltLd - Oct/75 with Sandy Wilkie

granitbahn - AltLd - 1975

Mike Owen - 1975 with John Roberts

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/74

RichardMc - AltLd - 30/Mar/74

Hidden - Jan/74

RichardMc - AltLd - 02/Jan/72 with Roger Everett

tapley - AltLd - 05/Aug/71 with Dave Hearnshaw

Stared on a girdle called Arctic Circle but finished up this
RichardMc - AltLd - 15/Nov/70 with Ken Salter, Sally Westmacott

mikej - Lead - 19/Apr/70 with Wil Hurford

lump'o'lead - 1970

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 01/Mar/69 with Bob Knapton

RichardMc - 2nd - 29/Mar/67 with Ian Stromberg

Very wet.
eroica64 - AltLd - 12/Feb/66 with Eddy Edkins

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