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Silly Arete*** E3 5c

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[Jimmy Jewell when he still used a rope, on Silly Arete. Probably 1977., 2 kb]No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: Extreme Rock, North Wales Rock Graded List, North Wales E3's, ROCKFAX Style Top 50: North Wales.

Photo: Jimmy Jewell when he still used a rope, on Silly Arete. Probably 1977. © jon
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 197 logbooks, and on 44 wishlists.

dswansonlow - Lead O/S - 19/May/13 with Darren McMaster

Really, really good.
wolf.leeb - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with jo

Harder and scarier than I expected
tim newton - Lead O/S - 01/May/13 with stuart lade

Chilly in fading light. Such a superb route!
Alex Mason - 2nd β - 06/Feb/13 with Gwen Lancashire

Soooooooooooooooooooooo good!!!!! It will take me a while to get over how good that was
Sardien - 2nd β - 12/Jan/13 with Andy Scott

Hidden - 2013

captain - 2013

ad111 - Lead O/S - 11/Nov/12

Michael Allday - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/12 with Bruce Houston

Bruce Houston - AltLd O/S - Jul/12

YES! What a route, bloody hard though, and runout! Glad ive finally done it! Fairly consistent 5c moves and very bold!
vertigo714 - Lead O/S - 12/May/12 with Ben rigby

Hard roof crux.
ben1987 - AltLd dog - 12/May/12 with Adam Coles

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/May/12

Owain Llewelyn - Lead O/S - 02/May/12 with Dan

dan ely - 2nd O/S - 02/May/12 with owian

Fucking cool!
markalmack - Lead O/S - 18/Mar/12 with andy lole

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Mar/12

Adam Coles - Lead O/S - 2012 with ben park

Hidden - 2012

Stone Idol - 2012

Tom Cox - 2nd β - 02/Sep/11

Dagash - 2nd dog - 02/Sep/11

SteveJCox - 2nd - 02/Sep/11

Misha - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/11 with Mike D

MD - 2nd dog - 14/Aug/11 with Misha

Cheated at the bottom as i did not hop onto the arete in from the start. Also cheated at the top 'cause Jon went the wrong way - this was accidental.
chris sm - 2nd O/S - 06/Aug/11 with Jon Pearson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Aug/11

givemetea - 2nd O/S - 06/Jul/11 with Dan Gibson

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/11 with roslyn mckendry

Saw it in the guide and it looked amazing, then after the recommendation from Dave I had to get on it. Amazing route, although the wind was a real issue and I found pulling over the roof quite hard for 5c.
willoates - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/11 with Hayley Proctor, Dan Johnson

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Jun/11

offroute - Lead - 20/Jun/11 with simon edwards

Wanted to do this for ages, an immaculate route. One of the great lines of Tremadog
david morse - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with katie

Silly arete!!!! I was so keen to not fall off of this that I didn't even commit to the roof moves. Figured it out, decided my foot wouldnt work so high, faffed for an hour or so, and lowered off without committing. A low point. Not something i want to make a habit of. Felix made it look so trivial that on second I breezed through it. Its amazing what difference a little fear and uncertainty can make to one's flexibility. Still, a fantastic climb, and one that demands plenty of raw skill as well as bravado. A lesson learned - when in doubt, might as well give it a go. It could turn out to be totally fine!
jacobjlloyd - 2nd rpt - 19/Jun/11 with Felix

feilx - Lead rpt - 19/Jun/11 with Jake

adam06 - 2nd - 05/Jun/11 with Ryan

spidey - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/11 with adam

Bex has waited years to do this so couldn't claim a lead, awesome route.
loundsy - 2nd O/S - 04/Jun/11

belay bunny turned bad - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11 with loundsy

Incredible. Bold in places but not as intimidating as I thought it might be. Felt a bit weird stepping down off the tree onto the start of the arete. The roof was entertaining and the top arete was just really enjoyable.
Andrew Barker - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11 with Si

The gear free retreat at the roof was too tempting, those holds are small!
ian d f - AltLd dnf - 22/Apr/11 with Mark

Hidden - Lead - 26/Mar/11

Adam Booth - 2nd O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Ed Booth

In high winds and with numb fingers and toes. quite an experience for someone who doesn't do bold climbing!
Glyn - Lead O/S - 08/Mar/11 with Luke

Luke Brooks - 2nd - 08/Mar/11 with Glyn Hudson

wop wop, about time, been on my list forever, I guess I must have gone up and down the overhang half a dozen times before committing, well worth the wait, conditions were perfect :)
mr mills - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/11 with Gareth

After retreating from below the roof in 2008. Excellent but, say it quietly, the top wall is an eliminate.
halfmanhalfbiscuit - Lead - Mar/11

clean, after lowering from below crux a couple of years prior.
zero six - Lead - Mar/11

Hidden - 2011

Jack Geldard - UKC Chief Editor - 2011

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

GeoffG - 2011

Steve Crowe - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Dave Parton - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Lone Rider - 2011

The move over the overhang is fine once you rock over and commit. Its just building up to doing it that takes the effort. Top section was bolder and more sustained than I expected. Truly excellent climbing, great line.
farmus21 - Lead O/S - 21/Nov/10 with Ben Allsford

25 years since last lead..... alzheimers onsight!
phil64 - Lead - 16/Aug/10 with rachie

Vince McNally - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/10 with Sumee Holloway

P2
Ed Babs - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/10 with Harry

In vertical order, starting from the tree: Gripping as f**k, really f**king hard, then amazing to the top. Its like a V4 problem getting through the overhang in the sweaty sweaty heat, those holds are tiny!! Are you meant to step straight onto the arete?
smallerrich - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/10 with Eugene

Lead pitch 1 of the Quakermen (5a) to the tree belay. Rich lead the crux. Nails move through the overhang!!
eugeneth - AltLd RP - 03/Jun/10 with Rich Cannell

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead O/S - 01/May/10 with Chris Coleman

barni - Lead - 16/Apr/10 with luke

Luke Brooks - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/10 with Barni

nutallovertheface - Lead O/S - Apr/10 with matt b

simeclimb68 - 2010

Hidden - 2010

richiebongo - Lead O/S - 2010 with Gwen Thomson

Top notch route. Jim Jewell... legend, I wana solo it too!
Mike Goldthorp - Lead O/S - 11/Nov/09 with alex mason

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Oct/09

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/09

3 1/4 hour epic. Scared over the roof and retreated left into pincushion crack.
mattyork2 - Lead - 10/Oct/09 with James Gray and Pete Ellis

liam - Lead O/S - 06/Aug/09 with Probes

mikeyjbs - Lead RP - Aug/09 with will woodhead

tom rookes - 2nd - 30/Jul/09

Dead good
NeilGriffiths - 25/Jul/09 with Dave Almond

Dave Almond - 2nd - 25/Jul/09 with Neil Griffiths

Hidden - 2nd β - 20/Jul/09

Awesome, seemed bold but nowhere near as silly as the name or reputation might suggest. On the 'must do' list!
jkarran - 2nd - 13/Jun/09 with Aly

awesome route, overlap is committing and the top slab is bold
centurion05 - Lead O/S - 09/May/09 with Stu Harth

Possibly the best climb ever! amazing moves, rock and position. 5*
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 17/Mar/09 with Guy VG

failed on roof and had to frigg up a bit. The best climb I have been on. Top slab is just mindblowing, my life will not be complete until I have lead this.
GuyVG - 2nd dog - 17/Mar/09 with Al Mason

en7edh - 2nd - 2009

Seymore Butt - 2009

JulesV - Lead O/S - 2009

Hidden - Lead β - 13/Oct/08

Toby Dunn - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/08 with JulesV

danwaters - AltLd O/S - 22/Jul/08 with Si

Hidden - 2nd - Jun/08

Brown - 2nd O/S - 16/May/08 with Various International meet

feilx - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/08 with Heather & Mike Soldner

Julian Wedd - Lead - 2008 with D. Body

Matt Vigg - 2008

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - 2nd dog - 04/Aug/07

Rob Kennard - 2007

haydng - Lead O/S - 2007 with Rob

chris j - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/06 with Ben Bradford

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/06

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Jun/06

Hidden - Lead dnf - 30/May/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jan/06

Bern - 2006

Hidden - 2006

jeffmcd56 - Lead O/S - 2006 with Rob

Deg felt it might be approaching 6a to surmount the roof these days as the crystals deteriorate...
chrishedgehog - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/05 with Deg Bolger

Brilliant route. A good test of nerve and some excellent climbing
KRB - Lead O/S - 03/Apr/05 with Chris Bridges

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2005

Hidden - 2005

Adam Lincoln - Lead - 2005

Hidden - 2nd - 2005

nicholas Barrowclough - Lead - Aug/04

sadams - 2nd - 08/Apr/04 with Eric Hildrew

Needed a bit of faith for the roof. The rest was most enjoyable. One of the best routes ever.
Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - 2004 with Phil Leng

Awesome route. Bolder, but easier than Pincushion ???
Mark Riley - Lead O/S - Apr/03

nige - Lead - 30/Mar/03 with mark hounslea

Hidden - 2002

Billg - Lead O/S - 2002 with Megan Beaumont

Hidden - 2nd - 2002

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/01

Hidden - Lead dnf - 2000

philhilo - 2000

Tim M - Lead O/S - 2000 with Phil T

MjrTom - Lead O/S - Jun/99

year and date a guess
mux - Lead O/S - Jun/99 with James Hubbard

Hidden - Lead - 1998

Ched - Lead O/S - 1997 with Glanfor

phardman - 1997

Hidden - Lead rpt - 22/Sep/96

ste_d - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/96 with mik

mikedelderfield - AltLd O/S - 20/Jul/96 with Steven Delderfield

sdht - Jun/96

WB - AltLd O/S - 1996 with Guy

GuyM - 1996

rob.grafton - Lead - Aug/95 with Ben

michael burrows - Lead rpt - 26/Feb/95 with brian jones

richparry - 1995

Hidden - Lead - 1995

Big Rik - 1995

Glenn Sutcliffe - 1995 with keefe

michael burrows - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/94 with lola gunn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Oct/93

Hidden - Lead - 03/May/93

Dave Musgrove Jnr - Lead - 04/Apr/93 with Chris Ranner

Roget - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/92 with jon

leaders problem!
Grezza - 2nd O/S - May/92 with Mick RIP

Brilliant climb. Did Pincushion first and thought it was worth going for this - it was! This was the last official hard climb I completed before retirement (as I fell of Fingerlicker immediately afterwards).
petemeads - Lead O/S - Aug/91 with Tristan Olivier

Andy Say - Lead - 22/Jun/91

Hidden - Lead - 30/May/91

Once again - well chuffed
steve taylor - Lead O/S - Mar/91 with Jim Waddington

steve taylor - Lead - Mar/91 with stumpy

jfletcher - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/90 with Glen Jones

mark-abz - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/90 with Andy W

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/90 with Andy Mackay

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/90

whispering nic - May/90 with Tim PYB

DDDD - 1990

Hidden - 1990

Hidden - 1990

andy gittins - Lead - 1990

Hidden - Lead - 30/May/89

Dave Musgrove - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/89 with Kim Greenald

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1989

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Sep/88

Hidden - Lead - 06/Jun/88

Top roped previously in 1984
Kafoozalem - Lead β - 21/Feb/88 with Glynn

Hidden - 1988

Hidden - Lead - 1988

sadams - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/87 with Guy Townsend

William Robertson - Lead O/S - 1987 with Emily, Steve, Shaun etc

David Smith - Lead rpt - 15/Nov/86 with Brian barker

Alan James - UKC and UKH - Lead - 19/Jul/86 with Brian Harley

shark - 2nd - 05/Sep/85 with Seb Grieve

mark mcgowan01 - Lead O/S - May/85 with Graham Harrison

Hidden - 1985

mark mcgowan01 - 1985

keefe - 15/Apr/84

Brilliant! The no hands pose whilst leaning across the roof is fun.
Bob - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/84 with Bill Birkett

Mark Kemball - Lead - 12/Feb/84 with Alan Little

stp - Lead - 18/Nov/83

Hidden - Lead - May/83

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Jul/82

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - TR - 1982

Hidden - 23/May/81

Hidden - 1980

Hidden - 1980

Hidden - 1980

Hidden - 1980

William Robertson - Lead O/S - 1980 with Emily, Steve, Shaun etc

Mike Owen - 15/Oct/77 with John Roberts

Hidden - 1973

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Voting
Total votes cast 116
hard E40 of 40
E40 of 40
easy E41 of 40
hard E38 of 40
E331 of 40
easy E30 of 40
hard E20 of 40
E20 of 40
easy E20 of 40
hard 6a0 of 39
6a1 of 39
easy 6a7 of 39
hard 5c12 of 39
5c18 of 39
easy 5c1 of 39
hard 5b0 of 39
5b0 of 39
easy 5b0 of 39
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Style of ascent

Lead102 of 197 (51.8%)
Followed34 of 197 (17.3%)
Toproped1 of 197 (0.5%)
Alt Leads10 of 197 (5.1%)
Unknown50 of 197 (25.4%)

'Climbed'96 of 197 (48.7%)
clean O/S80 of 197 (40.6%)
clean β6 of 197 (3.0%)
clean rpt5 of 197 (2.5%)
clean RP2 of 197 (1.0%)
dogged5 of 197 (2.5%)
dnf3 of 197 (1.5%)