Rockfax Description
12m. A classic bold outing, now tamed somewhat with modern cunning. Climb the groove to its top and a good pocket. A long stretch reaches The Shelf and a steep and awkward rockover/mantel on this provides a memorable move. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
Steep moves in the scoop on cracks which look better than they are. Up to the big pocket, and onto the sloping shelf.

Ticklists: The 3 star way to yorkshire gritstone's heaven, Allan Austin Classics, Ultimate E2 ticklist.

tim newton 31/Oct Lead O/S
Rachel Slater 31/Oct 2nd O/S
mrplastique 11/Oct TR

Cracking route.. need bigger cojones to lead it mind..

with helixmh
Hidden 13/Sep Lead O/S
markalmack 13/Sep Lead O/S
with Ben
Ben1983 13/Sep 2nd dog
Calum Wadsworth 16/Jun Lead O/S

Very good well protected climbing, didn't flow quite as smoothly as I would have liked mind!

with Jim H
Mike Todd 16/Jun Lead rpt
with Harrogate MC
PaulTanton 10/May Lead rpt
with Bruce Woodley
John Brayshaw 01/May 2nd dog
with Gareth
Dave Turnbull, BMC 20/Apr Lead O/S
with Dave Musgrove (snr)
Dave Musgrove 20/Apr 2nd
farmus21 18/Apr Lead

Good climbing. Good gear but run out. Greasy on the shelf and above.

with lauren davies, David Moir
spidermonkey09 21/Feb Lead O/S

Awesome, got cold hands but got enough back in the slots to make the final reach. Would have been nice to be a bit taller!

Hidden ??/2015 -
Hidden 05/Dec/14 Lead O/S
Alex the Alex 05/Dec/14 Lead dnf

I have some commitment issues that i need to sort out.

with Rog
Graham Booth 20/Jul/14 Lead O/S

Rock over, not mantle!

robman 20/Jul/14 Lead rpt
dig 20/Jul/14 2nd dog
with rob
Rachel Somerville 20/Jul/14 2nd
with Graham
papashango 03/Jun/14 2nd β

tried to lead and fell off twice, not the best session!

with Phil
CallumSmith ?/Jun/14 2nd
fjg123 31/May/14 Lead
Mike Todd 03/May/14 Lead O/S
Nez ??/2014 -
Bob ??/2014 -
Joedt ??/2014 Lead O/S
morganator 28/Sep/13 Lead O/S
spragglerocks 28/Sep/13 2nd
with Jon Morgan
Hidden 05/Jun/13 Lead dog
pebbles 02/Jun/13 TR
with ali
Jackwd 26/May/13 Lead dog

Slipped off, rock was sweaty bit gutted, should've got the onsight!

with Scott
herrettscott 26/May/13 2nd O/S
with Jackwd
Dan Mckinlay ?/Apr/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 02/Mar/13 Lead β
Rachel Somerville 25/Oct/12 Lead dnf

Fell off after crux, sloper was greasy and I was pumped. First E2 attempt.

with Ian W
Hidden 21/Oct/12 2nd β
David_Gledson 09/Oct/12 Lead O/S

Really good, with a big cam(camalot 4 or something, this would be pretty much p1, felt rather runout on the crux without it though. Pleased to get it.

with Tom
TRFrost 09/Oct/12 2nd β
with D. Gledson
Hidden 07/Oct/12 TR
Hidden 09/Sep/12 TR
DaveAtkinson 09/Sep/12 TR
Ewan Russell 12/Jun/12 Lead O/S
Dafydd Llywelyn 12/Jun/12 Lead dog

Got pumped and weighed the gear near the top.... good though!

pie_eater_pete 03/Nov/11 Lead dog

It was sopping wet, and i made it harder than it should be climbing the line between the VS and this, all in all why did i do this.

with Niall
djprepie 23/Oct/11 2nd dog
with John
petekeron ?/Oct/11 TR O/S
Nigel Bond 11/Jul/11 TR
with Bern Hardman
Hidden 03/Jul/11 -
pastep 03/Jul/11 Lead

TR then led later in the day.

with ebf
robman 09/Apr/11 Lead O/S
akhughes 03/Apr/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 19/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/Mar/11 2nd
Dave Warburton 17/Mar/11 Lead O/S

HVS with a size 1 friend and you use your head.

Mitch1990 01/Mar/11 Lead dog

Took one 10 second rest but then finished it off. Didn't feel to bad really.

Hidden ??/2011 -
Becky E 30/Oct/10 2nd dog
Graeme Hammond 30/Oct/10 Lead O/S
with Becky E
Hidden 02/Oct/10 2nd
MeMeMe 15/Aug/10 Lead O/S
with Andy
Tony Holdsworth 12/May/10 Lead dnf

Got to the shelf OK but not able to continue - retreat. Ian did the same and finished up the Forager.

with Sweary Ian
NorthernRock 12/May/10 Lead dnf

Lead on Tonys gear, got to the shelf and F**ked off left to the chimney and up the jugs on the right wall!

with Tony
PeteH 03/May/10 Lead O/S

Sustained but no hard moves.

DanH9883 16/Apr/10 Lead
with Joe Bawden
yarbles ??/2010 Lead
with Francis
cobweb 26/Sep/09 Lead

stay cool!

ollyroberts 16/Jul/09 2nd
with Jack
Jack00 16/Jul/09 Lead O/S
with Olly
Ben1983 21/Jun/09 Lead O/S
JonathanJones 21/Jun/09 2nd dog

had to pull on cam in the pocket over the was in the way!

with JoeT
Hidden 02/May/09 AltLd dog
Hidden 02/May/09 AltLd dog
Ram MkiV 29/Mar/09 Lead β

after martin & ian - gear in

with Martin & Ian
Martin Haworth 29/Mar/09 Lead O/S
with Ian, Steve
Hidden 15/Mar/09 Lead O/S
GPN 15/Mar/09 Lead O/S
with Annette
net 15/Mar/09 2nd dog
with George
Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
vertical worm ??/2009 2nd
French Erick 27/Sep/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 27/Sep/08 2nd O/S
Hidden 27/Sep/08 2nd O/S
v man 21/Sep/08 2nd
Hidden 21/Sep/08 Lead O/S
betamonkey 24/Jun/08 2nd dog

tough moves for 5b!

with Jonny Baker
Bennykr 24/Jun/08 2nd O/S
with Jonny
IanJackson 30/Mar/08 Lead O/S
with Big Ian
Hidden 17/Feb/08 Lead O/S
MikeLeeds 26/Oct/07 Lead dnf

Got up to slopers after resting on gear, fiddled around trying to get a cam in pocket, couldn't, lost nerve, decided to back off, sliped off hold and took massive winger as last gear at feet ended up 6ft off ground, good fall though 'cos you fall into space and don't hit anything. Then did it on top rope and found move fairly straight forward, think i used the pocket though that i was trying to put gear in.

with Andy May
Chad123 02/Jun/07 AltLd O/S
with Emily
Hidden 28/Apr/07 Lead O/S
Hidden 04/Feb/07 2nd
Brown 08/Sep/06 Lead O/S
with Tom Evans
Nick Beckett ?/Sep/06 Lead
with various
design crisis 26/Jun/06 Lead
with Tom W
Sean_J 25/Feb/06 Lead O/S
Pete Graham ??/2006 Lead
with Rick Graham
spoony84 ??/2006 2nd
adam carless ??/2005 2nd

Mark led it in fine style, then the heavens opened and I slithered up the route. Done fairly clean, but a bit of a tight rope on the wet slopers.

Hidden ??/2005 Lead
Hidden 19/Jun/04 Lead O/S
Cragrat Rich ?/May/04 Lead O/S

One of my earliest E2 leads. Proud to get the onsight. Stacked it with gear and just had enough left for the top mantle. Was buzzzzin

Hidden ?/May/04 Lead O/S
Urgles ?/Oct/03 Lead O/S
with jonathan t
cem 26/Apr/03 Lead O/S
with Sally Dipple
Hidden ??/2003 2nd
Laramadness 25/Aug/02 2nd
with The Duke
Hidden ?/Aug/02 2nd
phardman 16/Jun/02 Lead O/S
Roget 12/May/02 Lead O/S
with jon
Phill Mitch ??/2002 Lead O/S
with wayne
Hidden 01/May/00 Lead O/S
sadams 23/Apr/00 Solo
with Kathryn & Nic
Hidden 16/May/99 2nd
GeoffG 25/Apr/99 Lead
Hidden 13/Sep/98 Lead
innes ?/Aug/98 2nd
with Debbie
nickdonohue 28/Mar/98 2nd


with Steve Corcoran, Dave Chapman
nai 14/Aug/97 Lead
with Paul Horan
Dave Musgrove 12/Aug/97 2nd
with Tim Lowe, Julian Cooper
Hidden 25/Jul/96 2nd
crater 23/Jun/96 2nd

one rest

Dave Musgrove 30/Mar/96 2nd rpt

John led.

with John Sykes, David
rob.grafton 13/Jun/95 2nd
with Bruce
Hidden 23/May/95 Lead O/S
John Southworth 13/Apr/95 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Feb/95 Lead O/S
goi.ashmore 30/Jun/94 Lead O/S
with Dee Herbert
rob.grafton 04/May/93 Lead
with Bruce
Mick King 19/May/92 Lead β
with Andy "Pie" Wilkinson
Rich Kirby 27/Jan/92 Lead O/S
with Luke
whispering nic 05/May/91 Solo
with Jerry
craig h ?/Mar/90 Lead
with Matt Ford
Chris Ellis 21/May/89 2nd
with Andy Say
Andy Say 21/May/89 Lead O/S
with chris ellis
Dave Musgrove 02/Nov/88 2nd
with Frank Wilkinson
Neil R ??/1988 2nd
Hidden ??/1984 Lead
Dave Musgrove 06/Jul/83 Lead O/S
Hidden 06/Jul/83 Lead
Nic Robinson ??/1982 -
Nic Robinson 18/Jun/81 Lead
with Dave Oddy
Hidden ??/1978 2nd O/S
D Tempest ?/May/77 TR
petemeads ??/1976 Lead
jcw ??/1963 -

Presumably I seconded it

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