A very cold ascent, mostly wet but drier higher up,jamie ward - AltLd O/S - 19/Jan/14 with Shaun Blower, John Howes
Climbed first and started second pitch but abbed off coz of cold and loosing daylight.
cbonner - AltLd dnf - 02/Dec/13 with Brad Holmes
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/13
Great day out, warm for November. Took the wrong gulley down at the end of the day and had to abseil down to the bottom. To descend climb over the fence and take the first gulley, or walk around!!! not the gulleys further along. Great route, but as good as Agags Groove in Glencoe!?! I don't think so.
Mike_Gannon - AltLd O/S - 06/Oct/13 with Scott Robinson
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/13
Nordic - 2nd - 05/Oct/13 with Stewart Moody, Vicki Cox
saraguti - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/13 with rick sewards
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/13
Hidden - Lead - 03/Aug/13
Easy climbing, yet very greasy in places. Descent is hideous on the knees take your boots or some good approach shoes.
scott mayled - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/13 with A student
Damp/Slippery/Moist Route... Dry day but clagged in throughout. Lead Pitches 1, 3 and 5. Seconded 2,4 and 6
mikeyn48 - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/13
gareth swanson - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/13
gareth swanson - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/13
cheek to the rock - 2nd - 22/Jul/13
Hidden - AltLd - 21/Jul/13
DaveHall246 - Lead - 20/Jul/13 with Chris Hall
This is the second time I have climbed this route and it must be the best VDiff in the UK, much better than Aggag's Groove. Second pitch is fantastic, steep and exposed but the holds and gear are all there. The upper section is good too. Should be on everyone's tick list!
DaleB - Lead - 18/Jul/13 with GD
Bruce Kerr - AltLd - 16/Jul/13 with Jenny Kerr
John Roe - Lead - 13/Jul/13 with Alex Fitzpatrick
Great route, clean rock, good belays, proper big mountain feel.
Ian_Whitfield - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/13 with Whitty2012
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/13
alpinismo.uk - AltLd - 09/Jul/13
Prof. Outdoors - AltLd - 06/Jul/13 with Wendy
I led P2 and P5. Felt pretty stiff for VDiff!
Katherine Ross - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/13 with Izzy Stannard, Jill Reinsch
Jillybean - AltLd - 16/Jun/13 with Katheraine, Izzy
Lead pitches 3 and 6
Izzy - 2nd - Jun/13
5th pitch is awesome
SafeNath - 2nd O/S - 26/May/13 with SC, AO
Bivved on summit and walked to base of climb at sunrise, left packs and climbed the route. Had a cold time of it as the wind was blowing cold air down from the tops and the climb was shaded until roughly when we finished it! Didn't help that we could see glorious sunshine almost everywhere else! Lead whole climb, bottom two pitches have some loose rock and fairly thin gear for a VDiff, but amazing steepness and exposure for the grade. There was a hard move just after the 1st belay to gain a ledge system that wasn't overly well protected and had a large loose hold directly above my belayer. Could be dangerous, especially when busy. Top of climb is amazingly fun and enjoyable, on perfect rock at an amenable angle. Ran top two pitches together on sixties, had planned to for first two but would have run out of gear and rope I think.
Stuart Hurworth - Lead O/S - 26/May/13 with Dave Wilson
Big boots and simul-climbed
demarcation86 - 25/May/13 with Paul
moving together, big booted
pryan300 - 2nd O/S - 25/May/13 with T-Bone
Tarquin - Lead - 25/May/13 with Louise
Louvet - 2nd - 25/May/13 with Tarquin
Peter Metcalfe - AltLd - 19/May/13 with Cath Sullivan
RCrockford - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13 with Ste M
stemill - AltLd - 06/May/13 with Richard
Hidden - AltLd dnf - 27/Apr/13
A bad start to a horrendous day! First pitch was fine but a loose rock provided the only bit of protection for a move on second pitch. Abseiled down feeling a bit grim!
RikPotts - AltLd dnf - 27/Apr/13 with wolfy1987
Hidden - AltLd - 2013
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Nov/12
Alan James - UKC and UKH - Lead - 22/Sep/12 with Sam James
auld al - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/12
Cc odd pitches, tb even. Good fun climb, but pretty windy and a bit cold! Very atmospheric, with the cloud rolling down off the top, and then climbing up into the cloud itself. Done with packs for the sensible walk down.
birthers - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/12 with Caroline C
caroline256 - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/12 with Tom B
Tom Hecht - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Lotte Stuer
What a great route! Led P1,3 & 5. Awesome positions
Submit to Gravity - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Phil Lucas
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/12
Led P1, 3, 4 and 5. P5 (crux) is 4a. Absolutely superb route.
CathS - AltLd rpt - 11/Aug/12 with Vicky Lisle
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 11/Aug/12
really sunny day lead the 2nd and last pitch
Vicky L - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Cath S
Marti999 - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Debbie
Tiinster - 11/Aug/12 with Lee
mrchewy - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/12
First pitch in pouring rain, second pitch wet, gradually drier pitches after that.
iceaxejuggler - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/12 with Tim McDonald
Climbed in the rain...
lots of rain...
tim_mcd - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/12
Joshthomas - AltLd O/S - 21/Jul/12
Sure there would have been a great view if we could have seen more than 3 foot in front of our faces.
ollie1 - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/12
broc - Lead O/S - Jun/12 with Sarah
kp64zl - AltLd - Jun/12 with Philip S
Good atmospheric route protected by nuts and slings. Descent is awful loose rock, I suggest you take your packs up and walk out from the top.
Goody - Lead O/S - 23/May/12 with Suzie Hughes
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/May/12
lou_p - AltLd - 19/May/12 with Tom
cjohn62 - AltLd - 12/May/12 with andy
Took the higher first stance, tricky getting to it in big boots, handy flake seemed a bit loose! Awesome positions for the grade, a fine day out. Snowed graupel on us while leaving Sunset Ledge but then sun came back out.
Duncan Beard - AltLd O/S - 06/May/12 with Pip McCarthy
Loved it. Great exposure. Cold - didn't bring warm enough gear and it even snowed!? P5 was harder than I expected but fun.
DaveMo - AltLd O/S - 15/Apr/12 with Ben Prince
Finally! After wanting to do this route for years. Great setting. Impressive ground covered for a V.Diff
tom bre - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/12 with Paul Deane
xusa - 2nd O/S - 28/Mar/12 with Gareth Borthwick
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/12
Harri777 - AltLd - 24/Mar/12 with Toby Knight
gravity - AltLd O/S - 24/Mar/12 with Harriet Kirk
BJP001 - AltLd O/S - 13/Mar/12 with david mohamad
alan moore - 2012
Hidden - 2012
james chesmer - Lead O/S - 2012
climbed with Dennis From JSMTC (I) and Kyle Smith. On Joint service Rock Climbing Foundation Course. Day 02. Fist Outdoor climb of the course. Inst - dennis
ClimberChes - 2nd O/S - 22/Nov/11
Good route and good to climb with Bob again.
Mickdenali - AltLd O/S - 01/Oct/11 with Bob Macleod
Zoomer - AltLd - 24/Jul/11 with Julia Bloomer
Jules 210681 - AltLd - 24/Jul/11 with glenn bloomer
Steve Woollard - AltLd - 23/Jul/11 with Kevin Colclough
Hidden - AltLd - 23/Jul/11
kristinawe - AltLd - 12/Jul/11
Hidden - AltLd - 03/Jul/11
Hidden - AltLd - 02/Jul/11
I led 3rd and 5th pitches
ayuplass - AltLd O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Fred
Gazlynn - AltLd - 02/Jul/11 with Stuart
scree - 02/Jul/11 with Gareth Lynn
In big boots, superb route at the grade.
Sankey - 19/Jun/11 with Jon and Ed
Big boot joy!
jshields - AltLd - 19/Jun/11 with Ed James, Steve Ebbens
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 01/May/11
The Blue Bucket - Lead - May/11
idiotproof (Buxton MC) - May/11
jubolo - Lead rpt - 30/Apr/11 with craig
Fantastic route. First multi-pitch climb. Lead pitches 2/5 and half of 6th over more easy ground.
ian2707 - AltLd - 30/Apr/11
Fantastic mountain day, great face with nice climbing
p.j.deacon - AltLd O/S - 30/Apr/11 with Ian Moore
Fantastic Route. Good rock and lots of exposure.Don't rush to start as the sun only gets onto the rock around 10am.
Stephanie R - Lead - 23/Apr/11 with Tony Moore
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 22/Apr/11
Led P1,3,5. A great route on a glorious sunny day!
Monkey_Alan - AltLd O/S - 22/Apr/11 with Paul Jackson
Sweet climb in a very atmospheric location. A few dubious gear placements though.....
eugeneth - AltLd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Alex Raven
ended up on kirkus route and had to lower second off as she couldnt get to me.
Jayne Jackson - Lead dnf - 09/Apr/11 with Cairis Hickey
sylwia - AltLd - 09/Apr/11
Mistakenly ran a couple of pitches together, one of which caused a bit of rope drag.
ravensoc - AltLd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Saffra Wright
Jayboy - AltLd - 06/Mar/11 with Tom Dicks
Led P1-P3. Steve led the top 3. Great climbing all the way although Pitch 5 pretty awkward.
Different Steve - AltLd O/S - 30/Jan/11 with Carol Fowles, Steve Gray
Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Jan/11
Hidden - 2011
Rory Shaw - 2011
Neil Henson - 2011
Hidden - 2011
Hidden - 2011
Hidden - 2011
Retreated from first belay due to bad weather.
hcooper - Lead dnf - 23/Oct/10 with Jennifer Slack
marc1967 - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/10 with Steve Keys
The traverse felt bold early on. The pitch above the terrace, to the left of the grass filled pocket felt hard for the grade. Final corner pitch was reassuringly easy, though awkward to get to.
Lawrence Eccles - Solo O/S - 21/Sep/10
iwanap - AltLd O/S - 19/Sep/10 with Gerwyn
jockontherock - 30/Aug/10
alisonk - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Dave
davidk - AltLd - 22/Aug/10 with alison
climbing_wiggy - AltLd O/S - Aug/10 with Carrie, Richie
Big boots. Covers some good ground for the grade. Good for big boot climbing, very edgy.
HIGHTOWER - AltLd O/S - 17/Jul/10 with Pete Williams
LiamAD - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Jonathan Knowles
last two pitches of ordinary to dodge trafic
davidwright - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Joe Cohen
nealepj - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10 with Andy Gill
Really enjoyed this!
net - AltLd - 05/Jun/10 with George
Climbed in alpine style with big boots and sack as part of a circuit. Good climb in awesome location and great exposure. A bit tough in a couple of places with the boots - they don't smear so well :-) Lower sction has quite a bit of loose rock making protection rather thin.
jandyd05 - Lead O/S - 23/May/10 with Julie Anglesea
Hidden - 2nd - 23/May/10
Hidden - Lead - 22/May/10
Hidden - AltLd - 06/May/10
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 03/May/10 with Pete aka Dad
Probably the coldest belay I've ever had to endure, a cracking day out though, best climbing on the 2nd pitch and the chimney pitch
jubolo - AltLd - 02/May/10 with mark
Moved together on it. Great route
Jim Walton - AltLd O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Dan Matthewman
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Apr/10
Matt10 - 2nd - 10/Apr/10 with ldadams
Hidden - AltLd - 08/Apr/10
andymil13 - 2nd rpt - Apr/10
Hidden - 2010
Ken Taylor - 2010
moz - 2nd - 2010 with Chris
Ewan Russell - Lead O/S - 2010 with rostam
willson - AltLd - 04/Oct/09 with Ali H
led pitches 1, 3 and 5.
Ali H - AltLd - 04/Oct/09 with Willson
Found the top corner pitch quite hard for the grade - would have given it 4a
Tom Hutton - AltLd - 20/Sep/09 with steph
Great climb, and brilliant exposure, on a true mountaineering day
Clogwyn y Gwin - 2nd O/S - 18/Sep/09 with M .S.
Hidden - AltLd - 13/Sep/09
Sardien - 2nd O/S - 13/Sep/09 with Rhodri Morgan, Simon Moore
Lovely sunny day, 2nded first pitch in wolly gloves, boiled eggs on sunset ledge, what a view! Another walk back in the dark.
Monkeymorgan - AltLd O/S - 13/Sep/09 with Simon Moore, Serinde
jsw1 - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/09 with David Medcalf, Cathy Woodhead
Nostalgic return after 39 years
rogerskews - AltLd - Aug/09 with Martin Coward
Lead all pitches. Really classic climb, easy moves but with awesome exposure.
riven - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Elsie, Megan
probably best done in big boots at the edges are good - did it in approach shoes which is fine - never sure how far to move left on second pitch always feel as if i'm hitting the diff sooner than should do
bob johnson - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/09 with Mitch + Sally
Calder - AltLd O/S - 30/May/09 with Andy G
unfit - Lead - 30/May/09 with John and Jen
Hidden - 2nd rpt - 30/May/09
Nicholas Livesey - AltLd - 02/May/09 with Peter Machin
texuspete - AltLd O/S - 02/May/09 with Nicholas Livesey
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/09
Graham Westbrook - AltLd - May/09
mjackson - AltLd - May/09
Excellent route, feels very remote, but peaceful. Led pitches 1-3 upto sunset ledge as one, then moved together on pitch 3. Up to sunset ledge your route finding is put to test, and there's no polish to guide the way! There was also a fair bit of loose rock and not overly abundant protection on fairly steep but easy climbing. I also thought pitch 5 up the open corner was quite tough for VDiff. And those belay ledges are sensational aslong as you don't mind a bit of exposure.
asmith37 - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/09 with Bex Leigh
Keith Jones - AltLd - 18/Apr/09 with ali, David
TGreen - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/09 with Martin G
with nicola hirst
spoony84 - Lead - 2009
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Sep/08
Hidden - AltLd - 21/Sep/08
bridget143 - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/08 with Kate Warden
Hidden - 2nd - Sep/08
Lead pitch 2 and 4
alwyn101 - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/08 with Dilwyn Jones
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/08
centurion05 - AltLd O/S - 23/Jul/08 with rusty
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jul/08
Dilwat - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/08 with Bart
Led pitches 1-3 (as one) & 6.
bullwinkle - AltLd O/S - 07/Jun/08 with Jamie
Clucky - AltLd O/S - 31/May/08 with Drew Withey
adam06 - AltLd - 18/May/08 with Hilary Theaker
hils theaker - AltLd - 18/May/08 with Adam
one of the best places ive climbed, middle of fucking nowhere, love it
Steve Vincent - AltLd - 14/May/08 with David Robinson
nickwhimster - Lead O/S - May/08 with Brian Cox
David Robinson - AltLd - May/08
Sean Kelly - 2008
eddiejames_uk - 2008 with Jon Shields
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Dec/07
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Oct/07
Excellent route, mainly for the isolation. Saw one other person all day at a great distance. Varied climbing in some great positions, would be better if more pitches could be run together.
Irk the Purist - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/07 with Rachel Scott
Hidden - AltLd - 27/Aug/07
Off route up to Sunset ledge.
Joss - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/07 with Rod Lloyd Jones
First three pitches. Rain moved in, so moved to the Diff. Must go back. Brilliant route.
kleinej - Lead dnf - 23/Jun/07 with Loic
emlynroberts - Lead - 02/Jun/07 with Si Creer
a_d_tru - AltLd - 26/May/07 with Graham, Chris W
Hidden - Lead - 26/May/07
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/07
Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/07
Dux - Lead O/S - Apr/07 with Premal
zach.stone - 2nd O/S - 28/Feb/07 with Jamie Furniss
Allan Young - AltLd O/S - 16/Sep/06 with Steve Turner
Rampikino - AltLd - 16/Sep/06 with Cat
Hidden - AltLd - 09/Sep/06
Classic line, good day
KeithW - AltLd O/S - 23/Jul/06 with Bruce
Great setting! Climbing itself wasn't overly amazing - but the lonely, foreboding cwm more than made up for it. Nearly benighted - made a mad-dash for the car after dusk fell since the place seemed a bit too atmospheric!!
Jenn - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/06 with TRNovice
TRNovice - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/06 with Jenn
Simon K - 2nd - 04/Jun/06 with PR,JB
Petar led the first pitch, I led the second to the sunset ledge, Pete led the third. Really nice route with some good positions.
rob wmc - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/06 with Pete & Petar
sammoore - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/06 with Adam Harmer, Rhiannon Jones
Ian McNeill - 2006
Cornish Merlin - AltLd - Sep/05 with Ben Collins
FrankW - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/05 with Laura
Simon Caldwell - AltLd rpt - 06/Aug/05 with Carmen
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Jul/05
Rachael Barlow - 18/Jun/05 with Pete Robins
Hidden - Lead O/S - 2005
Tarquin - 2005
Wayne S - 2005
A great route. Gets my vote as best VDiff in North Wales. Only one other party on the whole crag, despite it being a sunny bank holiday, and lovely un-polished rock. Corner pitch near the top felt like a good Severe!
CathS - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/04 with Roger Dyke
Hidden - Lead - 06/Jun/04
Hidden - AltLd - 23/May/04
Hidden - AltLd - 19/Sep/02
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/02
lithos - Lead - May/02
A fine outing
Neil Henson - AltLd - 2002 with Mark Collins
Ann S - AltLd - 2002 with Bill Harrison
Mark Collins - Lead O/S - 2002 with Neil Henson
DerwentDiluted - AltLd - 2001 with Tim Stain
chrishedgehog - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/00 with Dan Bailey
Nigel R Lewis - Lead - 20/Aug/00 with Lisa Lewis
The Pylon King - AltLd O/S - Aug/00 with Laura
Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/00
Super hot and sunny day.
TobyA - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/00 with Elina
marcoleptic - Lead O/S - 2000 with Gibbon Bum
zero six - Lead O/S - 2000
Retreat due to poor weather
timreynolds - 2nd - 12/Jun/99 with John Burnip
Tarquin - 1999
WB - Solo O/S - 08/Sep/98 with Paul
Mark Riley - AltLd O/S - Aug/98 with Milly
barney@helmshore - AltLd - 20/Jun/98 with mike w
Dave Toseland - Lead O/S - 1998 with Huw
dry, cold, sunny, beautiful day
nickdonohue - AltLd - 26/Oct/97 with Dave Chapman
five - AltLd O/S - Jan/97 with JR
Brian Rodgers - AltLd O/S - 1997 with Roisin Rodgers, Dave Oldacres
J R R Hartley - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/96 with Tim Horsfall
Hidden - AltLd - 05/Jul/96
Hidden - 05/Jul/96
stokienomad - AltLd - 05/Jul/96
Ian Robertson - Lead - 16/Oct/95 with Krystina Lotoczko
Continued on to the summit
Chris the Tall - Lead O/S - Aug/95 with Liz
IggyLiz - 2nd - Aug/95 with Chris
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Jul/95
colin milton - AltLd - 09/Jun/95 with eric milton
A classic climb on a lovely sunny spring Saturday. When we returned to the car, a number of other cars parked nearby had been broken in to. Worth leaving things outof sight if you're parking there.
Tony Buckley - AltLd - May/95 with Tony Jinks
Rog Wilko - 2nd - May/95 with Debbie Wilkinson
Hidden - AltLd - 14/Apr/95
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/93
Andy Say - Solo - 13/Jun/93
sims - 2nd O/S - 1993 with Nick
jim_randell - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/92 with WW
Hidden - AltLd - 1992
Done on a very misty day
Ian Archer - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/91 with Robert Mirfin
JamieAyres - Lead O/S - Apr/91 with Jude Ayres
Julian Wedd - 1991 with A. Brierley
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Sep/90
babymoac - AltLd - 06/May/90 with MTW
alan moore - 1990
alan moore - 1990
bullybones - 1990
Snow showers halfway up.
Iain Thow - Lead - 28/Oct/88 with Gary (Plas y Nant)
nigehughes - AltLd - Aug/88 with Paul Duckworth
Hidden - Lead - 31/Oct/87
hazeysunshine - AltLd O/S - Jun/86
charlesmfrench - Solo O/S - 02/Jul/84 with DAVID SMITH
David Smith - Solo - Apr/84 with Al Bennett
Mark Kemball - AltLd - 30/Jan/82 with Pete Faulkner, Sarah Bridge
mikej - Lead - 11/May/81 with Ian Bryant
leland stamper - Lead O/S - Mar/81
In pumps, very cold and an epic descent as it got dark. Character building!
Ena - AltLd - 31/Dec/80 with Martin Trouse
JohnHutch - AltLd - Oct/78 with BA
RichardMc - Solo - 27/May/78 with Dave Langmead
Rog Wilko - Lead - May/78 with Debbie Wilkinson
Nigel Coe - Lead - 16/Apr/78 with Jackie Coe
Falko - Solo O/S - 27/Jun/77 with Howard Lancashire, Al W.
Falko - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/76 with Al W.
beaumap - 2nd - Apr/76 with Fred Smith
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/May/75
granitbahn - AltLd - 1975
Hidden - Lead - 09/Apr/74
Nigel Bond - Lead - 09/Sep/73 with Bob Panther
Howard J - AltLd - 1973 with Reading University MC
rogerskews - AltLd - Jun/70 with CMC Members
Gordon Stainforth - AltLd - 25/May/69 with John Stainforth