mick1jones - Lead β - 18/Aug/15 with Ondrej, Jason
I got scared when it got thin
miriamclaire - Lead dog - 17/Aug/15
Best route I've done in FCQ, felt easy for grade. Finger jams are sinkers !!
Matt Smith - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/15 with Tom Downes
Just when you think it gets hard...it gets easier! Great climb
Kemics - 2nd O/S - 03/Aug/15 with Mel
Nice moves up the headwall. Ended up crimping the face more often than using the crack.
Robin Woodward - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/15 with Jenny Dart
Sustained, delicate slab and strenuous on the calves. One slip unfortunately, definitely the top of my ability. Nice lead, Steve.
JCookie - 2nd - 25/Jul/15 with Steve Grey, Richard Plater
A bit of rope assistance.
RiPomc - 2nd - 25/Jul/15 with Steve Grey
Hidden - 18/Jul/15
Sophie Nunn - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/15 with Scott
Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/15
Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/15
trevor macalonan - 2nd O/S - 10/Jul/15 with Richy
Sam4242 - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/15
stalbot93 - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/15 with Keelan McNulty
The previous comment does not exaggerate, the foot pump is crippling.....
Keelan McNulty - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/15 with Sam Talbot
Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/15
Hidden - Lead - 18/Jun/15
Crux section straightforward if you're used to climbing steep stuff.
Monkey_Alan - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/15 with Trace Sutton
Trace - 2nd - 14/Jun/15 with Monkey_Alan
lukerathmell - 2nd - 10/Jun/15 with emma holland, Carl Stubbs
carl_123 - 2nd rpt - 10/Jun/15
Hidden - 2nd - 07/Jun/15
So much foot pump! Argh!
mes32 - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/15 with Lina, Dave
91dave - 2nd O/S - 07/Jun/15 with Mary Slingo, Lina Arthur
Stiff crux, got pretty pumped!
jhobbs - Lead - 30/May/15 with Tim Melrose
Ejminee - 2nd - 29/May/15 with LovelyMrTom, Legs
LovelyMrTom - Lead O/S - 28/May/15 with Emma Mines
steve_gibbs - 2nd rpt - 21/May/15 with Max Coney
Legs - Lead rpt - 21/May/15 with Steve
emdawes - 2nd - 12/May/15 with alex shaw
Larey - Lead O/S - 12/May/15 with Emily dawes
Hidden - 2nd rpt - 11/May/15
Hidden - Lead rpt - 11/May/15
Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/May/15
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/May/15
Hidden - 2nd - 09/May/15
Mayaculpa - TR - 04/May/15 with Mike Rotraxion
Bob Peters - Lead O/S - May/15
First HVS for a while. Not clean but still completed.
Ollie Wickham - Lead dog - 30/Apr/15 with Richard Mackie
Ollie Wickham - 2nd O/S - 22/Apr/15 with Richard Mackie
Nice route. Short 5a section, the rest is fairly straight forward.
Paul Baller - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/15
petegunn - 2nd - 11/Apr/15 with Davina
Hidden - Lead rpt - 11/Apr/15
climbEdclimb - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/15 with Cameron Ree
davidclare - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/15 with Tris Vye
Hidden - 2nd - 07/Apr/15
madguernseyboy - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/15 with Lucy Plowman
Wildstyle - 2nd O/S - 06/Apr/15 with Brendan Gill
Slick - 2nd - 26/Oct/14 with Kevin Vans-Colina, Isabel Evans
Egons Issy - 2nd - 26/Oct/14 with Richard Nicholson
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/Oct/14
Phoebus - Lead - 28/Sep/14 with James Orde Powlett
steve_gibbs - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/14 with John Harris, Jamie Roberts
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/14
Echna - Lead rpt - 21/Sep/14 with Rich
First HVS lead. Not much gear leaving the ledge but bomber gear in the crack. Sustained
Bernie L - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/14 with Julian Bridle, Sebastian Fisher-Green
JulianB - 2nd - 21/Sep/14 with Bernhard Lozowski, Sebastian Fisher-Greene
Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/14
Stanners - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/14 with Deepstar
petegruf - Lead - 07/Sep/14 with charles m
cem - 2nd - 06/Sep/14 with Peter Murphy
Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/14
Hidden - 2nd - 05/Sep/14
Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/14
Hidden - 2nd - 19/Aug/14
zcsharp - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/14 with Steve Gibbs
steve_gibbs - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/14 with Jamie Roberts
Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/14
Easy up to bramble ledge. Very steep and pumpy piece of wall afterwards. More pleasurable up the crack thereafter.
Deary65 - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/14 with Jon, Sam
Pretty pumpy for a slab!
Mike Kiss - Lead - 07/Aug/14 with Old man Andy
took over from tom following lead fall. crux well protected but technically serious challenge. took a slide x 1. comes together when you spot foot placements.
wilf - Lead O/S - 06/Aug/14 with Tom
A really good route. Quite hard for HVS but the gear is all there. Just in time before the heavens opened
georgeevans88 - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/14 with Caitlin
Felt tougher than I expected for HVS although I think that was more because I've been nursing injuries the last couple months.
Stuart William - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/14
Rob Morgan - 2nd - 27/Jul/14
lots of fun ... once you start on the real climbing.
sjscammell - Lead - 23/Jul/14
sheelba - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/14
My best experience at Fairy Cave so far. Hard 5a/easy 5b, bit of runouts but with bomber gear.
Chris Sieradzki - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/14 with Hooo
Hooo - 2nd - 06/Jul/14 with Chris Sieradzki
marsden.d.paul - 2nd O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Dave AMC
Pintsize - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/14 with Will Benfold
Hidden - 2nd - 22/Jun/14
will_benfold - 2nd rpt - 22/Jun/14 with Sarah Woodrow
Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/14
Very hard for HVS, soft E1?
pheotleyr - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/14 with Jana
felixizzy - Lead rpt - 16/Jun/14 with Craig
Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/14
SGD - Lead - 08/Jun/14 with Vicky Holmes
steve-grigg - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/14
Phoebus - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/14 with James Orde Powlett
Needs some gardening to be done!
Tom F Harding - Lead O/S - 31/May/14 with Steve Bartle
Steve Bartle - 2nd O/S - 31/May/14 with Tom F Harding
Seem quite muddy at the moment, and take some secateurs! There's a bramble bush in the middle of the route before the crack. Couldn't go through or remove it so had to go around to the left and work my way up to the crack from there - tricky.
jopayne1988 - Lead O/S - 30/May/14
Hidden - Lead - 19/May/14
Vincej - 2nd - 19/May/14 with Nevil
felixizzy - Lead O/S - 10/May/14
tskelhon - Lead O/S - May/14 with Charlotte
clmacdonald - 2nd - May/14 with tskelhon
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 19/Apr/14 with Kirsten
kirsten - 2nd - 19/Apr/14 with Brian
gjh - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/14
Patrick Clissold - Lead dnf - 01/Apr/14 with Will Laws
Hidden - 2nd - 30/Mar/14
2nd ever HVS 5a. Went too far left initially which became obvious when I planted my hand in a hold full of mud and a bit of rock fell off in my hand...
cdpuk - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Alex Peka
riddle - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Zaheer Durrani
zadurrani - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/13
Matt Amos - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/13
Dave Thompson - 2nd O/S - 05/Sep/13 with Mark Lee
Ali.B - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/13 with johnevans
Hidden - Lead β - 02/Sep/13
ali macphee - Lead dnf - 28/Aug/13
Tristypants - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/13 with Helen Eden
Got to the crack...couldn't do it :( Either harder than it looks, or tired after previous long routes (or definately feeling the three month gap from climbing).
Phil Layton - TR dog - 22/Aug/13 with Ms Grigri
markfromstoke - 2nd - 14/Aug/13 with Norman
Norman_P_W - Lead - 13/Aug/13 with Mark Faulkner
Wendy Watthews - Lead dog - 11/Aug/13 with arandall
First HVS onsight! Awesome climb, definitely going to repeat it the next few times.
Echna - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Andy
wurzelinzummerset - Lead rpt - 09/Aug/13 with Nick
stoneback - 2nd O/S - 09/Aug/13 with Alan
first attempt at hardish climbing after breaking collarbone
arandall - 2nd dog - Aug/13 with Wendy Matthews
Cut back some of the trailing brambles whilst seconding.
wurzelinzummerset - 2nd - 26/Jul/13 with Ivan
From the ledge to the tree is sustained good climbing, I ended up too far left and had to make a thin rightward transfer across the base of the crack that felt more like 5b.
The Ivanator - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/13 with Alan
Hidden - Lead - 24/Jul/13
Adrian Daniels - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/13 with John Parrott
MoWalker3 - 17/Jul/13 with Cormac
2nd second ascent
mick1jones - 2nd O/S - 13/Jul/13 with Mike Guttridge
Ian JL - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/13
just one more - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/13 with john smith
Swsloper - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/13
cameron_hall - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/13 with Will Benfold
will_benfold - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/13 with Cameron
Hidden - 2nd - 30/Jun/13
chrisallan - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/13
Felix Ottey - 2nd rpt - 23/Jun/13
BALD EAGLE - 2nd - 05/Jun/13 with James Pomeroy
Been wanting to do this route for a while, so took the opportunity. Was worth it, really good. I actually found that the technical crux was higher than the description and quite pumpy, but by good gear. Took a moment to work out the move.
Poco Loco - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/13 with Bald Eagle
met a jungle half way up which was rather memorable
Georgia H - Lead - Jun/13
tcoombe1 - Lead - Jun/13
thomb - Lead O/S - 18/May/13 with Matt
Steep for FCQ! But very good
Cheese Monkey - Lead O/S - 18/May/13 with Peter
pheotleyr - 2nd β - 18/May/13 with Ben
Brambles need snipping
markfromstoke - 07/May/13 with Adrian
Great route, I felt like I cruised it which is not bad for a chap with a ruptured pulley tendon! HVS? sure, although maybe on the soft side. Very enjoyable :-)
Felix Ottey - Lead O/S - 04/May/13
wurzelinzummerset - 2nd - 01/May/13 with Carl
carl_123 - Lead - 01/May/13
Luke Davies - Lead - 24/Apr/13
jon_ridley - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/13 with Paul Poudevigne-Durance, Jonny Forster
Hidden - Lead - 17/Apr/13
A tricky start then easy climbing up the fine upper crack.
petegunn - Lead - 08/Apr/13 with Davina
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Apr/13
morpcat - 2nd - 30/Mar/13 with wilkinscl
shakeyjakey21 - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13 with Rob
goatboy76 - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/13 with Jake Leach
norris.dan - 2nd dog - 2013 with Sam Sloper
Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/12
homing-penguin - 2nd O/S - 19/Sep/12
lewiz - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/12 with Kirsten Donovan
Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/12
Doughnut - 2nd dog - 15/Sep/12 with Lewis Thompson
Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/12
Investigated direct start to 'Senile taff corner'and bottled it!So reclimbed 'Withy crack'Thought it may feel easier than last time but tho I felt more solid its definately bang on for the grade,short but superb!
tomshanti - Lead rpt - 09/Sep/12 with Lawrence Dudley, Brad Fry
bradfry - 2nd O/S - 09/Sep/12 with Tom Shanti, Lawrence
alastairbegley - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Jackson
Tom Frost - Lead - 06/Sep/12
Hidden - Lead - 28/Aug/12
Hidden - 2nd - 28/Aug/12
Good fun route. Quite tricky in the lower half.
mullermn - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/12
Fantastic route. Quite tough at points, and very bold on the first slab, but great climbing.
Monk - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Mullermn
Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/12
BeccaSnowden - Lead O/S - 19/Aug/12 with Tom
Harder than it looks.
thomasadixon - 2nd O/S - 19/Aug/12 with Becca
Greg Pittam - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/12 with Jess Brooks
Was getting dark started up the first section but quickly realised that after climbing Wessexy I was too psychologically fu*ked to do it that day.
Quarryboy - Lead dnf - 12/Aug/12 with Rob Stanfield, Mark Davies
wurzelinzummerset - 2nd - 11/Aug/12 with Ally, Rob
Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/12
paulerussell - 2nd O/S - 09/Aug/12 with Chris Poad
J.Atkins - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/12
led, pretty easy for the grade.
alidixon - Aug/12
Very pleasant! Wrong-footed initially going into the hard bit but soon sorted myself out. Lots of gear.
Phil Murray - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/12 with Liz
Harri777 - 2nd - 30/Jun/12 with Nik
Hidden - Lead - 09/Jun/12
Quite vegitated, and all too short
clipskipper - 2nd O/S - 09/Jun/12 with Sue Hazel
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 28/May/12 with Rick
will909 - 2nd rpt - 27/May/12
Hidden - 2nd - 23/May/12
Made harder work than I should have done of this route and needed some practice to clean the lower portion up to the crack. Good sequence of moves up to the ash, then easy thereafter. Good climbing.
Big Lee - Lead RP - 20/May/12 with Laurence King
Started up the left hand side of the crack which felt very hard. Got into the crack with a great move rightwards and moved up with nice moves.
Rick Ashton - Lead O/S - 20/May/12 with Robert Drynda
Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/May/12
First route after 3 years of no climbing - it felt tough!
JamieAyres - 2nd rpt - 06/May/12 with Nick Ingram
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/12
Bristoldave - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/12 with Dawlish
Dawlish - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/12 with Bristoldave
Loved it! Took a minute to find the crux sequence though.
Dave Ing - Lead O/S - 22/Oct/11 with Bridgette
Very enjoyable crux with a lovely sequence of moves.
BB1 - 2nd - 22/Oct/11 with Dave Ing
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Oct/11
Gary S - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/11 with Chris Cowdrey
Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/11
joeurwin - Lead rpt - 21/Aug/11 with Heather, Neil Gay
Neil Gay - 2nd O/S - 21/Aug/11 with joeurwin
positive crimps and good gear.. total cruise fest :)
benkelsey - Lead O/S - 19/Aug/11 with Chris Kelsey
RossT - Lead - 14/Aug/11 with Reg
Was too muddy and damp. Would be great in good conditions.
Pete Scott - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/11 with Jimbo
ian1234567 - Solo - 03/Aug/11
Hidden - Lead - 23/Jul/11
mick1jones - 2nd O/S - 10/Jul/11 with Rich Rogers
Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/11
riddle - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11 with Yasmina
Hidden - 2nd - 11/Jun/11
Chris Sansum - 2nd O/S - 03/Jun/11 with Chakrit Suriyo
Ruth ND - 2nd - 24/May/11 with Ev
Hidden - Lead rpt - 24/May/11
will909 - Lead RP - 15/May/11
mattshort - 2nd - 15/May/11 with Alan Murray
A good quality route
Rowan Mitchell - Lead O/S - 15/May/11 with Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones - 2nd - 15/May/11 with Rowan Mitchell
Hidden - Lead - 29/Apr/11
Hidden - 2nd - 26/Apr/11
bpmclimb - TR rpt - 16/Apr/11 with Shunt
Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/11
Seconded Andy Hunter
john159 - 2nd - 23/Mar/11
Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/11
J.Atkins - 2nd O/S - 13/Mar/11
Great Climb once you've cleard the crux easy hand jamming all the way up. Crux is right near the begining. One Good/marginal piece just before the crux in a horixontal crack.
TomOsterwold - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/11 with Jack Atkins
nick hawkins - 2nd - 11/Mar/11 with Jez
Steep middle section for Fairy Cave, lots of gear.
jezb1 - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/11
djromberg - 2011
HVS 5a- 40m
Challenging mid section- completed after slight fall onto rope. Cold hands
Avon and Cheddar
Matt Smyth - 2nd RP - 16/Oct/10 with Olly Pirkis
Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10
Gibbo - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/10 with Tom Gibbison
arandall - 2nd O/S - 26/Sep/10 with Isaac Whitcombe
fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/10 with liv_the_div
Hidden - Lead - 16/Sep/10
Great route with a nice technical few moves in the mid section
davenev - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with luke
Mr Tickle - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/10 with davenev
Nice route, with really only a small section at HVS. There is new abseil tat and ring at the top to the right so thanks to the philanthropist for supplying that (Ian?)
James Moyle - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/10 with Richard Burton
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 09/Aug/10 with Clare
Well protected but quite sustained until you get to the tree then its a romp. Great route.
Jon Didymus - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/10 with Nick
Good route but ledge at start of hard section is currently covered in brambles which is a bit of a mare - really needs a good garden following the ban. Some sustained climbing. First limestone slab for a long time - got a bit of disco leg.
Si dH - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/10 with Jim R
Fell a couple of times trying to retrieve gear on the crux
SharonC1604 - 2nd - 25/Jul/10
Nick F Smith - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/10 with Debbie Bowers
2 or 3 tricky moves but very pleasant. Again dries quickly.
darren hudson - 2nd O/S - 18/Jul/10 with David Ford
tobydunford - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/09 with Pete Chalis
luke13 - 2nd - 11/Jun/09 with Dec
deklan - Lead - 11/Jun/09 with luke
upontop - Lead rpt - 01/Jun/09 with Julie
DorsetGareth - Lead O/S - 30/May/09 with Richard Nadin
Mark Salter - Lead O/S - 10/May/09 with Gareth Lewis
Dr Caterpillar - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/09 with Alex Malins
Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/09
jon bradley - 2nd rpt - 20/Mar/09
timstyles - 2nd β - 20/Mar/09 with Jon Bradley
lemon - 01/Mar/09 with Martin Davies
Martin Davies - 2nd O/S - 01/Mar/09 with Ed Lemon
My second outdoor climb. The rock was really wet and slippery so I was pretty pleased with the result!
Andyleslie - TR RP - 08/Nov/08 with Bruce Blagdon
Hidden - Lead dog - 11/Oct/08
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/08
CosmosKey - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/08 with Rick & Frank
MarkRyder - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/08 with Lee
Tough for HVS
SC - 2nd β - 15/Jul/08 with mike kann
timharrison - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/08 with Matt Perks
richardr - Lead O/S - Jun/08
Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/May/08
Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/May/08
Hidden - 2nd dog - 04/May/08
jelaby - Lead O/S - 04/May/08 with Adam Young
jon bradley - 2nd rpt - 27/Apr/08 with Huw Howells
babymoac - Lead - 27/Apr/08 with Paul Bolton
Hidden - 2nd - 27/Apr/08
dan gibson - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/08 with anna barnes
petegunn - Lead - 2008
ian d f - Lead - 2008
Solid HVS with some gear that has to be placed blind
maresia - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/07 with Iain Afshar
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 14/Sep/07 with Mark
JPGR - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/07 with Andy
I had to rescue Jason as he'd bitten off a little more than he could chew. Lovely crack but the crux was a little too short, maybe 1 or 2 finger kams and it was over.
Anthony Allsopp - Lead O/S - 19/Aug/07 with DAve and Jason (HMC)
AlexD - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/07 with Joe
joeurwin - 2nd β - 05/Aug/07 with alex
Hidden - Lead dnf - 24/Jul/07
Hidden - 2nd dog - 24/Jul/07
JimR - Lead - Jul/07 with AJM
Shone - Lead - 06/Jun/07 with Ian Butterworth
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 22/May/07 with Clare, Mike L, Val
Fat Tim - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/07
CharlieC - 2nd dog - 17/Feb/07 with Jez
gringoloco - 2nd - 2007 with Colin Charles
Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Nov/06
My first HVS lead!!
KarlH - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/06 with Neil Williams
endless winter - 2nd - 02/Jul/06 with BenP
mmmm - crux is approx 1/3rd into route, up a very vertical face with a thin crack and small - 'hidden' foot holds. Fell 2/3 way up this part of the route, top runner pulled out (I think it was too small and pulled out the botton of the crack) fell approx 3m onto ledge, next bit of pro held. Bruising to lower back and shoulder. - Found my limit for now, glad I was wearing a helmet! Climbing on double ropes. Did not second after Andy M completed route (1 fall, his pro held!) - he had a hell of a time trying to retreive the pro during the absail with the ab-point off to the left of the slab
Tempest - Lead dnf - 01/Jul/06 with AndyM
adamscottthomas - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/06 with Mike Maben
Paul Robertson - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/06 with Ben Friedland
Bux - Lead O/S - Jun/06 with Rupert Bassadone
chris sm - Lead O/S - 14/May/06 with Richard Hurley
Hidden - 2nd rpt - 14/May/06
bpmclimb - Lead O/S - 11/May/06 with Clare
beardy mike - Lead O/S - 2006 with Steve Corner (SC)
gaz.marshall - Lead O/S - 2006
Marti999 - Lead O/S - 2006 with Mick Cooke
Hidden - 2nd O/S - Aug/05
upontop - Lead O/S - Aug/05 with Trevor
just one more - Lead - 07/Jul/05 with pete g
MikeC59 - Lead - 18/Jun/05
JamieAyres - 2nd O/S - 29/May/05 with Nick Ingram
Hidden - Lead O/S - 2005
tom.e - Lead dnf - Nov/04 with Sam Lillywhite
Urgles - Lead O/S - Jun/04 with Francis Lickerish
just one more - Lead - 28/May/04 with tim b
Hidden - Lead - 2004
cornishben - Lead O/S - Jan/02