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King Bee*** VS 5a

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[Neil on King Bee, 3 kb]No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: The 100 Best UK VS routes?, Scottish Mid-Grade Multi-Pitch, Scottish 3 and 4 star multi-pitch routes.

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This climb is in 209 logbooks, and on 27 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Jul/14

Outrageous!
MrRiley - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/14 with Ben, Richard Hines

Rickrick - AltLd - 25/Jul/14

First time at Creag Dubh ( school run)
Jimmywhyte6 - 2nd - 25/Jun/14

Hidden - 15/Jun/14

Hidden - 15/Jun/14

got a bit lost on the second pitch ended up veering way out right
CaelanB - AltLd - 11/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd - 17/May/14

kegless - AltLd - 24/Apr/14 with Jonny Hawkins

Quick climb while there was still light on the way up north.
Tim Hamlet - AltLd - 14/Apr/14 with Iain Smith

Abbed off after direct start and pitch 2 due to rain.
kato'sdad - AltLd - 13/Apr/14 with Giles Trussel

Abbed off after 2 pitches (for dinner!).
masa-alpin - Lead dnf - 10/Apr/14 with Sandy A

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Oct/13

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Sep/13

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Sep/13

Nemo9 - 2nd - Sep/13 with Jim

Lead pitch 1.
Rachel Slater - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/13 with Olli Crudge

Lead P2 then abbed off. Best climbing is the start of P2 up the cool rippled wall. Lots of vegetation nearby but route manages to avoid it.
Olli-C - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/13 with Rachel Slater

Bailed after the first pitch when the rain set in. Nice climbing but a bit chossy.
MrRiley - Lead dnf - 24/Aug/13 with Richard Hines

Sean Cattanach - 2nd O/S - 05/Aug/13 with Louisa Reynolds

mikemartin - AltLd - 05/Jul/13

Captain Solo - AltLd rpt - 05/Jul/13 with Mike

arose - Lead - 01/Jul/13 with Hannah Francis

Tightsgirl - 2nd - 01/Jul/13 with Ali Rose

lead p1
colin milton - AltLd - 26/Jun/13 with shaun l

ross brinson - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/13 with Hannah Watson

Uisdean hawthorn - 02/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd - 16/May/13

led p1&2 then a hailstorm came in so we abbed off. looked pish after that anyways.....
Neil Mackenzie - Lead - 16/May/13 with Alec Robertson

Hidden - 2nd - 15/May/13

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 13/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Feb/13

captain - 2013

Hidden - 2013

DougSt - AltLd - 2013 with Neil Wightwick

PeteLoveless - AltLd O/S - 03/Sep/12 with Ben Gibson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Sep/12

Done pitches 1 and 2 (on separate days) then abseiled from top of pitch 2. Great route.
Gibson27 - Lead O/S - Sep/12

Hidden - Lead - 30/Aug/12

RocKalina - AltLd - 18/Aug/12 with MM

Led p2. Went too far left and had to make a tenuous move to get back around the blunt arete. P3 wasn't up to much
Thoms6974 - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/12 with Matt

pretty good route
radioshed - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/12 with andy t

Rapped off after pitch 2 for convenience.
Merlin - 2nd O/S - 05/Aug/12 with Dave Tait

Hidden - AltLd - 04/Aug/12

Hidden - AltLd - 04/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead - Aug/12

Fantastic route. Perfect rock and amazing position on first part of second pitch.
steve.aisthorpe - 2nd - 20/Jun/12 with John Lyall

Bern - AltLd O/S - 07/Jun/12 with Peter Brown

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/12

DundeeDave - AltLd O/S - 27/May/12 with Ewan Gourlay

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/12

up the hill - AltLd O/S - 26/Mar/12 with Fiona Murray

adie84 - 2012

PAJames - 2012

alan moore - 2012

Joel Perkin - 2012

Geoff did the direct start, exciting move!
simon_D - AltLd O/S - 06/Nov/11 with Geoff

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Sep/11

Hidden - AltLd - Sep/11

tomc - 2nd - 04/Aug/11

Very nice route. Abbed off after pitch 3 which started nicely but descended into Lost World terrain. A shame that the last two pitches are so overgrown now but 1 and 2 are top quality.
John 'B' Hutchinson - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/11 with Matthew Thompson

1st two pitches, went the wrong way under the first roof, pulled on gear
K9 - 2nd - 14/Jun/11 with Giles Trussel

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/11

Led pitches 1 and 2, then abbed off. Pleasant route.
niallk - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/11 with Sarah, Willie

Lead pitches 1 and 3
Adam Romaine - AltLd rpt - 05/Jun/11 with Geoff Lowe

MULTIPITCH
DOVEY - 03/Jun/11

Abbed off after P2, wetness.
Andy Moles - AltLd - 25/May/11 with Ferdia

Crowley6969 - 2nd - 08/May/11

piotr led the direct version HVS 5a
danimal88 - AltLd O/S - 01/May/11 with piotr

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 29/Apr/11

Liam Ingram - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Jade Littlewood

Did P1 and P2 then abbed off, superb route
crombie - 2nd O/S - 21/Apr/11 with Badam, John Jackson

Abbed off after second pitch top pitches are chossy
Badam - 2nd O/S - 21/Apr/11 with Alan, John Jackson

Led first pitch, which was 'zig-zaggerama'. 5a pitch was the best for position and character.
sophiecb - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/11 with Neil

French Erick - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Stuart McFarlane, Jim Hall

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/11

janey pitch one, me pitch two then abbed off after finishing the 'decent' climbing. scary abseil!
sneaks - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/11 with janey

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 10/Apr/11

barney_edin - 2011

Scottish78 - 2011

Hidden - 2011

newtonmore - 2011

Hidden - 2011

HenryCowan - 2011

Tomek S - AltLd O/S - 09/Oct/10 with Wojtek Polkowski

Wojttek - AltLd O/S - 09/Oct/10 with Tomek S

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Sep/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/10

First 2 pitches. Led pitch 2. Great pitch! Great belay position.
climberuk - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with Drew

Superb first pitch. Good second. Abbed off after third.
gjd - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/10 with Mapleleaf

excellent fun and some nice climbing, pitches 1 and 2 only
robertmichaeladams - AltLd - 30/Aug/10 with Lawrence

wence - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/10 with Rob

donas - Lead - 21/Aug/10

Led pitch two. Nice route. Too much ab faff on the way down though!
bigbobbyking - AltLd O/S - 16/Aug/10 with jacob davies

did 1 to 3, led second pitch
abbeywall - AltLd - 07/Aug/10 with borderline

Led pitches 1 & 3. Abseiled off after pitch 3.
borderline - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/10 with abbeywall

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/10

2nd pitch very good, abseiled from top of P2.
rob askew - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/10 with nick brindley

Led p.1, MC led p.2. Ab'd off. Excellent route.
bnewman - AltLd O/S - 17/Jul/10 with mulletcocktail2000, Amelia

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Jul/10

Met these guys while recee'ing the crag, helped them trying to retrieve ropes that had jammed. Guess what, they jammed again! Fantastic route tho, exposed with good gear and fine rock.
simon_D - 2nd O/S - 03/Jul/10 with Catherine

chapmand - AltLd - 25/Jun/10 with Suzie Hatchell

Hidden - AltLd - 24/Jun/10

Fun exposed climbing - just climbed first two pitches. Lead first pitch (4c), Rory lead second pitch (5a).
stephenmckenzie - AltLd O/S - 24/Jun/10 with Rory Brown

Hidden - AltLd - 23/Jun/10

GraemeDiack - 2nd β - 12/Jun/10 with Jelle, Karin Helwig

Led pitches 1 and 2. Wet patch on the first pitch looked like it might be a problem, but it was actually ok. Rope drag was pretty bad. Second pitch was pure joy. Jelle led pitch 3 which was all wet and vegetated, and under the circumstances probably the hardest.
karinh - Lead β - 12/Jun/10 with Jelle, Graeme

tallthinmonkey - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/10 with Rafa

stunning weather, swollen, painfull feet. probably my hardest lead.
cogg13 - Lead β - 23/May/10 with david gemmell

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/May/10

Johann - AltLd O/S - 2010 with Alex Wheeldon

Johann - 2010

jcw - 2010 with Simon Richardson

cogg13 - 2nd O/S - 01/Oct/09 with david gemmell

Lawrie Brand - AltLd O/S - 19/Sep/09 with Jamie Wilson

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Sep/09

I led P1, Neil ran P2 and half of P3 together, I led second half of P3 and P4 (horrid - avoid!) as a final pitch. Abbed off in 3 raps.
stuaart - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/09 with Hannah Gibbs, Neil Redgrave

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Aug/09

Very nice, but I reckon a bit overrated. Better VS's at Dunkeld and Clova IMHO!
iceicebaby - 2nd O/S - 18/Aug/09 with Sam Wood

StuDoig - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/09 with Juliette Robertson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Aug/09

mikecollins - AltLd - 05/Aug/09 with manmike

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Aug/09

andymoin - Lead rpt - 02/Aug/09 with Dr Mark

Good climb, thought brute was better though. Top pitch not really worth climbing.
adw07 - AltLd O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Mark Jarvie

markhowley - 2nd - 02/Aug/09 with Andy

A glorious climb, much better than appearances would suggest. Good abseil stations at all three belays.
Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/09 with Tim Clarke

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Jul/09

rclarke - AltLd - 23/Jun/09 with sanj

prob the most epic climb iv been on, there def was a new route explored in the dark which wasnt the easiest or safest looking back, I will remember it for years
rclarke - AltLd O/S - Jun/09 with sanj

DavPk - 2nd - 31/May/09 with Romain Rebut

Mike H - AltLd - 30/May/09 with Jamie Smith

abseiled after the second pitch
david0811 - AltLd O/S - 29/May/09 with Chris Hill

Chris L Hill - AltLd O/S - 29/May/09 with David Marshall

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/May/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead - Apr/09

auchtubhmor1 - AltLd - 24/Mar/09 with Mark Worsley

Hidden - AltLd - 2009

Hidden - AltLd - 2009

BallsOfSteel - AltLd O/S - 20/Sep/08 with steve addie

cem - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/08 with Graham Dolman

Led first and third pitches. First was great.
Shauna - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/08 with Paul Cunningham

jonka - AltLd - Aug/08 with gareth

Hidden - Lead - Aug/08

a wee gem. must do for any aspiring vs leader.
mulletcocktail2000 - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/08 with paul

Paulww - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/08 with Ryan

Hidden - 2nd - Jun/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/May/08

Hidden - AltLd - 03/May/08

Fantastic - possibly the best multi-pitch VS I've done so far? Second pitch is pure joy. Only poor bit is the finish of the third pitch.
PeteH - AltLd O/S - May/08 with Andy Simpson, Louise Simpson

Hidden - 2008

TrollJester - AltLd O/S - 2008 with VARIOUS Throughout 80's+90's

Hidden - 2nd - 2008

jess - AltLd O/S - 2008 with martin

didn't do last choss pitch interesting hanging abseil on desent
CurlyStevo - AltLd - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

beegsyboy - AltLd O/S - 30/Sep/07 with Sandy

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Aug/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/07

Ab'd after 2nd pitch.
HIGHTOWER - AltLd O/S - 17/Jun/07 with Tim

auld al - AltLd O/S - May/07

centurion05 - 01/Apr/07

timmy-ts - 2007

Hidden - 2007

jamestheyip - AltLd O/S - 2007 with Miguel Ciriza

A great line and well worthy of stars
jazzyjackson - AltLd - 23/Sep/06 with Jimbob

Dam nice route worth the stars, getting thro the roof on pitch 1 is supprisingly easy then 2 more quality very airy pitches follow.
andymoin - AltLd O/S - 02/Sep/06 with Captn Solo

Led crux, didn't do top pitch.
Captain Solo - AltLd - 02/Sep/06 with Andy

Direct Start - HVS 5a
steev - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/06 with Konrad

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/06

jim.macp - 01/Jul/06

Direct Start HVS 5a
Fultonius - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/06 with Andy Inglis

andyinglis - AltLd - 28/Apr/06 with Ally Fulton

Hidden - 2006

smac - Aug/05

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/05

Hidden - AltLd - 12/May/05

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Jun/04

hedgehog77 - AltLd - 06/Jun/04

akhughes - AltLd - 2004

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Sep/03

dave o - Lead O/S - Jul/03 with Julia H

Hidden - 2nd - Jul/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/03

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Apr/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2002

greenroom - Lead O/S - 2001 with Amanda Grace Henderson

brianrunner - 2001

Midgetastic!
ruaridhmac - AltLd - 10/Sep/00 with Graham Dawson

Hidden - 2nd - Jul/00

Bruce Kerr - Lead - 25/Jun/00 with Jenny Kerr

Hidden - AltLd - May/00

Hidden - Lead - 21/Mar/00

Hidden - AltLd - 2000

graeme gatherer - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 20/Jun/99

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 1998

Lots of midges
andybrown114 - AltLd - 21/Jul/97 with Austen Worth

Tarquin - 1997

Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/95

JiveWeasel - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/95 with Frank, Kristina S

Glenmore course
snowcat - AltLd - 20/May/94

Yourlead - 2nd - 23/May/93 with Graham Penny

Done as part of MIA assessment.
Sean Kelly - Lead - Oct/92

Hidden - Lead - May/88

David Smith - AltLd - Apr/88 with charlie french

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Style of ascent

Lead31 of 209 (14.8%)
Followed31 of 209 (14.8%)
Alt Leads119 of 209 (56.9%)
Unknown28 of 209 (13.4%)

'Climbed'107 of 209 (51.2%)
clean O/S91 of 209 (43.5%)
clean β3 of 209 (1.4%)
clean rpt5 of 209 (2.4%)
dnf3 of 209 (1.4%)