The Real 20-foot Crack VS 4c
[Jonathan at the top of his first Trad lead., 3 kb]The compelling crack is a good test of your jamming. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: Eastern Grit Jamming, Peak Bouldering - bold-star Eastern-Grit sub 7s, Stanage for Crack Apprentices.

Photo: Jonathan at the top of his first Trad lead. © Falko Rech
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This climb is in 350 logbooks, and on 20 wishlists.

Robin Nichols - Solo O/S - 18/Oct/14 with Jemma

AndyRogers - Sent O/S - 12/Oct/14

AshBash - Sent O/S - 30/Sep/14

danm - Solo - 22/Sep/14

Gambit - Sent O/S - 21/Sep/14 with OlI

quickdrawmcraw - Solo - 21/Sep/14

Hidden - Sent - 02/Sep/14

Theeni - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/14 with Joseph

jrccrosby - 2nd O/S - 31/Aug/14 with Henry Crosby

pete1993 - Sent β - 22/Aug/14 with Nick

Maciekman - Sent dnf - 19/Aug/14

Very brief session before being midged off. Way better than the one at Burbage? Actually has friction and is a bit steeper so feels more positive.
Duncan Campbell - Sent O/S - 06/Aug/14

franhammond92 - Sent O/S - 02/Aug/14 with David Robinnette

Hidden - Solo dnf - 30/Jul/14

chris p duck - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/14 with Chris R

a good crack, good jams.
Mr Christian - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/14 with chris p duck

marshallb93 - Solo O/S - 13/Jul/14

Curlyhelen - 2nd - 02/Jul/14 with Bill

Alex Hallam - Solo O/S - 08/Jun/14

dom94 - Solo O/S - 02/Jun/14

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 21/May/14

Lawrence Beesley-Peck - Solo - 14/May/14

Hidden - Sent - 04/May/14

Hidden - May/14

Hidden - Solo - 28/Apr/14

Paul Clarke - Solo O/S - 26/Apr/14 with Alone

Easy hands
Clemmo - Solo O/S - 24/Apr/14

The Big Sender - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/14

Fat Tim - Solo RP - 01/Apr/14 with Fidel Sciamanna

Gaz of Bath - Solo RP - 29/Mar/14

ape1980 - Solo β - 29/Mar/14 with Jimbo, olly, Garth

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/14

Deezel65 - Solo O/S - 12/Mar/14

First climb of the day. Nice warm up at 6.30 in the morning. Great gear and jams all the way.
luke glaister - Lead O/S - 09/Mar/14 with casey johns

casey johns - 2nd O/S - 09/Mar/14 with luke glaister

althesin - Solo O/S - 07/Mar/14

Hidden - Sent rpt - 01/Mar/14

George.nunn1993 - Lead O/S - Mar/14 with Mary dougherty

amazing at sunset
ashtond6 - Solo rpt - 28/Feb/14

angus - Sent O/S - 16/Feb/14 with Philbert, rich sawyer

Lenny - Sent O/S - 10/Feb/14

Hidden - Solo - 20/Jan/14

Lawrence Beesley-Peck - Solo - 2014

Hidden - 2014

benlatham07 - Sent - 2014

Hidden - 2014

Dan Arkle - 2014

a13x - Sent O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Greta, Chris Bowden, Matthew Gibbings, Jordan Phethean, Alison Monks, Jessie Harris

rooftops - Solo β - 29/Sep/13

ianjfsutcliffe - Solo rpt - 14/Sep/13

James Oakes - Sent - 12/Sep/13

atom - Solo - 04/Sep/13 with Mark Watkins, Richard Sharpe

slacky - Solo rpt - 03/Sep/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/13

kermit_uk - Sent O/S - 19/Aug/13

Nick1812P - Solo O/S - Aug/13 with India

First outdoor climb for Josh - a little too hard, something for next time ;) Easy TR onsight for myself... Upper crack section makes you work more than it should though!
joehicks - TR O/S - 29/Jul/13 with Josh Barratt

Felt really high.
zcsharp - Sent - 17/Jul/13 with Danish

dr_botnik - Solo rpt - 17/Jul/13 with holly

Tried to solo this a few years ago and had to downclimb. Felt steady away this evening.
deacondeacon - Solo O/S - 17/Jul/13

Failed to solo this a few years ago, good to get it this time and feel easey
Andy Peak 1 - Solo - 17/Jul/13

Dave Mountford - 2nd - 16/Jul/13 with alex thackaway

Albachoss - Solo O/S - 13/Jul/13

Jack Whiteley - TR dog - 09/Jul/13

hand jamming lesson!
TimG - TR dog - 09/Jul/13 with Jack

afcervantesluna - Solo - 07/Jul/13

MTL - Sent O/S - 21/Jun/13

Retro onsight, no memory of doing it before
adam carless - 2nd O/S - 17/Jun/13 with victim of mathematics

Small but perfectly formed
victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/13 with Adam

patsaunders - Sent - 01/Jun/13

tatz45 - Lead O/S - 18/May/13 with Amy Illingworth

bullybones - Sent - 01/May/13

alooker - Solo O/S - May/13

Hidden - Solo dnf - 22/Apr/13

Laramadness - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/13

matt.stevenson - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13

JohnHutch - Lead - 15/Apr/13 with L, Pip

dr_botnik - Sent rpt - 02/Apr/13

grubes - Sent O/S - 31/Mar/13

Did this in the dark. Nice lead andy!
MichaelGallimore - 2nd O/S - 05/Mar/13 with Whiskey tom, Andy Hawkins

Roberttaylor - Solo O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Jamie Sparkes, Liam Ingram

Liam Ingram - Solo O/S - 02/Mar/13

JamieSparkes - Sent rpt - 02/Mar/13 with Robert Taylor, Claire Holland

maryleese - Solo O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Jamie Sparkes

annep11 - Solo - 02/Mar/13 with Jamie Sparkes, Liam Ingram, Robert Taylor, Mary Leese

benkelsey - Solo O/S - 28/Feb/13 with Jake Shaw

Didn't find any jams on this.
DDDD - Sent O/S - 28/Feb/13

john lynch - Solo - 27/Feb/13 with Joe Holden

Hidden - 27/Feb/13

Hidden - Solo rpt - 09/Feb/13

Hidden - Jan/13

chris.t - Sent - 2013

drsdave - 2013 with Mat

Hidden - Sent - 2013

Hidden - Sent O/S - 2013

Hidden - Solo - 16/Dec/12

Hidden - Solo O/S - 01/Dec/12

Hidden - Solo O/S - 01/Dec/12

jorge1983 - Solo O/S - 13/Nov/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/12

vaseyman - Sent x - 07/Oct/12 with steve, dan and jules

JLS - Sent rpt - 07/Oct/12 with Jacqui

efrance24234 - Solo O/S - 27/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead - 22/Sep/12

Souljah - Solo O/S - 22/Sep/12 with Alister

tallsop - 2nd - 14/Sep/12 with terry

Milne - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/12 with tom allsop

alex thackway - Lead - 01/Sep/12 with Dave m

Kirill - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/12 with Natalia Male Alcalde

cem - 2nd rpt - 12/Aug/12 with Pete Colledge

kwaidy - Lead β - 04/Aug/12 with sting

sting - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/12 with kwaidy

Gudge - 2nd O/S - Aug/12 with Woodsy

jwa - Sent O/S - 27/Jul/12 with Peter Hill

Bit soft for VS, for two reasons: Firstly, I am shocking at jamming and found the jams really easy and second theres more gear placements than you can shake a stick at.
wingalina - Lead - 24/Jul/12 with Robert Turnbull

Mattlamb90 - Solo O/S - 21/Jul/12 with Tibbett

carnt jam for Sh1t
the power - 2nd dog - 27/Jun/12 with rob

dr_botnik - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/12 with Phil Taylor

natalietanzer - Solo O/S - 06/May/12 with marcus

cragtyke - Solo - 06/May/12

Ly-Cilph - Solo dnf - 21/Apr/12

Jonathan's first lead. He did well.
Falko - 2nd rpt - 01/Apr/12 with Jonathan Rech

Alex.M-M. - Solo O/S - 01/Apr/12

SteveM - Solo - 24/Mar/12

Loved every move. Great jamming, felt really solid on them.
JezH - Lead O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Sam Davies

not a huge fan of jamming but i can see the appeal of this crack
HAJ Francis - 2nd O/S - 18/Mar/12

sam820 - 2nd - 18/Mar/12

mes32 - 2nd - 11/Mar/12

chrisallan - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/12

Clay C - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/12 with Jay

Jay C - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/12 with Clay C

Somerset swede basher - Solo O/S - 02/Mar/12

cripper - Lead O/S - Mar/12

rooftops - Lead O/S - Mar/12

Morwood - Solo RP - 21/Feb/12

danjimwill - Solo - 15/Feb/12

with crash pad
OliBangbala - Solo - 03/Feb/12

Sidekick - Sent O/S - 14/Jan/12

Malcolm Tucker's Sweary Aunt - Lead rpt - 14/Jan/12 with Andy

Jonathan Hall - Solo - 14/Jan/12

Chris Hind - 2012

Hidden - Solo - 2012

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Dec/11

harold walmsley - Sent - 24/Nov/11 with Jim (Pauls mate), Paul Evans

Birdo - Solo O/S - 20/Nov/11

Jimbo C - Solo rpt - 06/Nov/11

simon1965 - Solo O/S - 26/Oct/11

Hidden - Sent - 24/Oct/11

This was a tough one and crushed my hands something chronic. Just realised that with these crack climbs you spend most of the time trying to avoid using the crack!
MPSBunny - Lead - 19/Oct/11 with Stu Coxon

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Oct/11

john_ni - Solo O/S - 30/Sep/11

Hidden - TR rpt - 24/Sep/11

steve_yo - 20/Sep/11

Jim Slater - Solo O/S - 11/Sep/11

DKaye - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/11 with Alex Minshall

So it says lead, but what i actually did was pull Duncan's rope through, clip his runners, move the last one up to the top and lower off on it to collect gear without ever topping out.
cookacat - Lead - 01/Sep/11 with DK

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/11

jowgli - Sent x - 02/Jul/11 with will kelsall

Hidden - Sent x - Jul/11

Hidden - Solo O/S - 30/Jun/11

al123 - Sent - 28/Jun/11

bigbirdflying - Lead - 22/Jun/11 with Conor

JamieSparkes - Solo O/S - 13/Jun/11 with solo

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11

TRFrost - Solo O/S - 08/Jun/11

ianjfsutcliffe - Solo O/S - 04/Jun/11 with Courty

M_W_Court - Solo O/S - 04/Jun/11 with ian sutcliffe

phleppy - Solo - 02/Jun/11

Pythonist - Solo O/S - 02/Jun/11

good practice for my jamming!
Sam Simpson - Solo O/S - 21/May/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/May/11

Nick Rundall - Solo rpt - 17/May/11 with Jon Taylor

bigphil - Sent - 12/May/11 with Mark

john lynch - Solo O/S - 12/May/11

very short very nice, mid size cams useful
minirollsrule - Lead β - 28/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/11

Laura-lou - Lead - 28/Apr/11 with Paul Shepherd

Stephen_L - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11

Alex Thompson - Sent O/S - 22/Apr/11 with Martin Rogers

banging jammin
w.pettet-smith - Solo - 15/Apr/11

Siderunner - Solo O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Kirsten

At the end of a bouldering evening.
joemallia - Solo O/S - 08/Apr/11

If only it was the 40ft crack nice route but its all over too soon . Good moves , gear & jamming . 1*
glennofsheff - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11

petellis - Solo O/S - 12/Mar/11 with Aly

Hidden - Solo rpt - 12/Mar/11

Hidden - Sent - 12/Mar/11

Si dH - Solo O/S - 27/Feb/11

Ollie B - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/11 with M.Rankine

b.hayley - Solo rpt - 08/Feb/11

Bitterly cold.
DaveFidler - Lead rpt - 30/Jan/11 with Arron Quinn

David Smith - 2011

greenclimb - Sent - 12/Dec/10 with Sarah

Nick Rundall - Solo O/S - 19/Nov/10

jacobjacob - Solo - 19/Nov/10

NeilGriffiths - Solo - 15/Nov/10 with Simon Frost

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Nov/10

frost - Solo - 14/Nov/10 with N Griffiths

good climbing, but a bit too thin for jamming.
Dan Lane - Solo O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Jake Oughton

thetourist - Solo O/S - 24/Oct/10

erica - 2nd - 24/Oct/10 with John

John Brayshaw - Lead O/S - 24/Oct/10 with Erica

AndyPagett - TR - 24/Oct/10 with Naomi, Laura Quinby, Phil Bentley, John Buckle, Adam Mitchell

rob1 - Solo - 09/Oct/10 with Stu Day

stephenhartley - Solo - 06/Oct/10

madasten - Solo O/S - 06/Oct/10 with Ethan

Tony Holdsworth - Lead rpt - 05/Oct/10 with Guido

Hidden - 05/Oct/10

johniebriggs - Lead - Oct/10 with GG

Hidden - Sent O/S - Oct/10

Hidden - Solo - Oct/10

Mattyk - Sent - 25/Sep/10 with Jamie Moss

Hidden - Lead - 12/Sep/10

The Mountain Goat - Solo O/S - 01/Sep/10

First real go at crack climb so stunned at managing to get up it fairly cleanly.
Claire Molloy - TR - 15/Aug/10 with Nick Smith, Noelle

NoelleG - TR - 15/Aug/10 with Claire Molloy

Ant Man Bee - 2nd - 07/Aug/10 with Charles Moreton

cem - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/10 with Paul Bolton

DaveFidler - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/10

Quality route.
Malcolm Tucker's Sweary Aunt - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/10 with Andy

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/Jul/10

Hidden - Solo rpt - 17/Jun/10

popebenedictus - Solo O/S - 15/Jun/10 with Song Tsai, Adrian Scott, Edd Rab

adrianscott - Solo O/S - 15/Jun/10

edd rab - Solo O/S - 15/Jun/10

Ange's lead. As usual I tried my best to do as little hand jamming as possible...
charley - 2nd O/S - 04/Jun/10 with Ange, Kev

One fall...slipped off when wrist popped adn couldn't hold the jam :-( Fantastic climb, much nicer than it's Burbage equivalent.
valentinesbabe - Lead dog - 04/Jun/10 with Charley Fell, Kevin Tithe

Tithe Technique - TR O/S - 04/Jun/10 with Angela Paul, Charley Fell

Dan Shirley - Lead dog - 04/Jun/10

Marc Murphy - AltLd - Jun/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 23/May/10

Hidden - Solo - 20/May/10

Some awkward but good jams. Much better than it's Burbage namesake.
Jimbo C - Solo O/S - 17/May/10

Hidden - Solo - 16/May/10

Hidden - Sent - 13/May/10

Pown - Solo O/S - 13/May/10

disturbed_one51 - Solo - 11/Apr/10

Obi-Wan is lost... - Solo - 11/Apr/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 07/Apr/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 01/Mar/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 2010

cymjt - 2010

Seemed to layback it more than jam it
Troy Tempest - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/09

hilty - Solo O/S - Oct/09

Matt Bennett - Solo O/S - 22/Sep/09 with Nathan Sharp

Hidden - Solo rpt - 22/Sep/09

slacky - Solo rpt - 16/Sep/09

titchbach - 2nd - 11/Sep/09

Hidden - Solo O/S - 30/Aug/09

chris_j_s - 2nd O/S - 23/Aug/09 with Catherine Speakman

Hidden - Solo O/S - 05/Aug/09

Very wet.
Caspar - 2nd - 04/Aug/09 with Simon Reynolds

in the rain
scorpia97 - Lead - 04/Aug/09 with Caspian

hilty - Solo O/S - Aug/09

Whealiebob - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/09 with Stee

John Marsland - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/09 with Goi

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/09

Chris Craggs - 03/Jun/09 with Dave Gregory

chrishedgehog - Solo - 25/May/09

paul__in_sheffield - Solo O/S - 24/May/09

bigphil - Sent - 21/May/09 with Toby

smudge - Solo O/S - 28/Apr/09

First time I've had the bottle to solo this whilst out on my own. Such good fun did it twice =)
slacky - Solo rpt - 26/Apr/09

garburn - Solo O/S - 18/Apr/09

tlr - Sent - 15/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/09

howlingbaboon - Solo O/S - 03/Apr/09

Nicos - Sent - 02/Apr/09 with andy plat

markytaylor - Solo O/S - 16/Mar/09

kdlauder - Lead O/S - 12/Mar/09 with Mike C

kitkat78 - Sent O/S - 11/Mar/09 with Graham P

In the wet.
JWB - Lead O/S - 28/Feb/09 with Mike278

mike278 - 2nd O/S - 28/Feb/09 with JWB

Look at me ma, I'm Jamming. Nice.
JLS - Sent O/S - 21/Feb/09 with Mike B.

Hidden - Solo - 20/Feb/09

lowersharpnose - Solo - 14/Jan/09 with Sloper

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 03/Jan/09 with olivia

Hidden - 2nd dog - 03/Jan/09

greenclimb - Sent - 03/Jan/09 with Sarah

Hidden - Sent - 01/Jan/09

kingholmesy - Solo O/S - 2009

Jack00 - Solo O/S - 18/Dec/08 with Sharik

Jeronimo - Solo O/S - 15/Dec/08

Hidden - Solo O/S - 06/Dec/08

Hidden - Solo O/S - 06/Dec/08

thomasadixon - Solo O/S - 03/Dec/08

Graeme Hammond - Solo rpt - 03/Dec/08

jimbomann - Lead rpt - Dec/08 with Tom Relf

Hidden - Solo O/S - 29/Nov/08

riddle - Solo O/S - 07/Nov/08

Hidden - Sent - Nov/08

monsteratt - 2nd O/S - 31/Oct/08 with Morgan Preece

Sweeeeeeet
MorganPreece - Lead O/S - 30/Oct/08 with Monty

Hidden - Solo - 26/Oct/08

Stig - Solo O/S - 10/Oct/08

Hardcore Pat - Solo O/S - 03/Oct/08

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slacky - Solo O/S - 23/Sep/08

felixthelion - Solo - 21/Sep/08

SteveM - Solo - 19/Sep/08

TomHaigh - Solo O/S - 10/Sep/08 with Phil Parker

Hidden - Lead dog - 01/Aug/08

Guy Wilson - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Paul Smith

Andy Fielding - Solo - 25/May/08

One of the Peaks best kept secrets - easily a 3 star climb.
PanzerHanzler - Lead O/S - 17/May/08 with Adam W

chiverstom - Solo O/S - 26/Apr/08 with WIl Treasure

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Apr/08

Hidden - Solo O/S - 31/Mar/08

Hidden - 2nd - 2008

richyg - 2008

Lewis Stewart - Lead O/S - 2008 with Eddie and Paul

Hidden - Solo O/S - 09/Oct/07

tlr - Solo - 04/Oct/07

Mr Powly - Solo - Oct/07

Alfredo - Solo - Sep/07

shoulders - Lead - 21/Aug/07 with Pete C

Chris the Tall - Solo - 31/Jul/07

JohnHutch - Lead - 06/Jul/07 with SC

Hidden - Solo - 10/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/May/07

tom.e - Solo O/S - 21/Apr/07

craig matheson - Solo - Apr/07

A wee gem (if this is the obvious jamming crack left of apparent north buttress).
catt - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/07 with Blane

Graeme Hammond - Solo O/S - 02/Mar/07

Hidden - 2nd - 04/Feb/07

drysori - 2007

gethin_allen - Lead O/S - 2007

MeMeMe - 2nd - 20/Aug/06 with Nick

Mutl3y - Lead - 10/Jun/06 with Clog

Clog - 2nd - 10/Jun/06 with Mutl3y

Pete Graham - Solo - 2006

Hidden - Lead - 2004

Phil West - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/03 with Chris Tan

DerwentDiluted - Solo - 07/Jul/02

Hidden - Solo - 19/May/01

Hidden - Solo - 04/Jun/00

Hidden - TR - May/00

adam carless - TR - May/00 with Nick Smith - UKC

tlr - Solo - 2000

danm - Lead - 2000

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Dec/99

Iain Thow - Solo - 14/Oct/99

Chris the Tall - Solo O/S - Aug/99

cragspud - Lead O/S - 1999

bigphil - Solo - 03/Jul/98

ChrisJD - Solo - Apr/98

John Southworth - Solo O/S - 16/Jul/95

Hidden - Lead - 07/May/95

Roget - Solo O/S - 24/Jul/93 with jon

Hidden - Solo - 25/Aug/90

goi.ashmore - Solo O/S - 05/Nov/89

Tom V - 1988

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