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Them*** E3 6a

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[Them, Upper Wall, Avon Gorge, 2 kb]A thrilling pitch combining a head-spinning position with faultless wall-climbing. Start at the top of the ramp. 26m. Traverse out left for 3m along the break, level with the ramp, to a tiny ledge. Climb slightly rightwards up the wall, past 2 pegs, to good nuts in the cracks above. Move up leftwards with difficulty to the base of an open groove and a peg on the right and proceed up the groove to where it fades. Finish up the fingery final wall passing a peg. © ROCKFAX
Leave the edge of the ramp and continue easily to the first peg, and the second. Then lace the bottom of the rightwards trending crack with good gear and run it out (safely) on an amazing sequence to a massive jug next to a peg and a couple of cams if you want them... Continue up much easier ground, peg clipping as you go with a little spicy move to finish.
P R Littlejohn, C King 17/Nov/1977

Ticklists: Great Wall Climbs of the UK, Littlejohn South West Climbs, Rockfax SW select - Avon gorge routes, Trad climbs for sport climbers, West Country Climbs, 100 best limestone climbs in Britain.

Photo: Them, Upper Wall, Avon Gorge © Will Goldsmith
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 102 logbooks, and on 14 wishlists.

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

Hidden - Lead rpt - 09/Oct/13

Tough for E3! Hard and bold moving away from the two lower pegs.
Joughton - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/13

I won't win any style awards for this one: mostly on Nicks's gear and with loads of beets. Still, great climbing. Easy when you know how.
Alex Winter - Lead - 26/Jul/13 with Nick

Eventually figured out the move at the crux. Impeccable climbing above, great exposure, three stars from me! (I'll give it a hard E3 because I know I'm not the only one to find that move hard to read, and it's a relatively big fall albeit onto bomber gear. Easy for 6a though, once you get it figured out)
Nick Russell - Lead RP - 26/Jul/13 with Alex Winter

Alternated attempts with Jon. Can't figure out the move into groove.
Alex Winter - Lead dnf - 13/Jul/13 with Jonathan

Cool techy route, more sustained than expected.
Daniel Heath - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/13

Standard procedure: stopped mid-crux, got pumped, fell. Should have gone home before trying this, some day I'll learn to finish early and finish strong, rather than keep going til I'm bleeding!
Nick Russell - Lead dnf - 29/Apr/13

amazing sequence, bold start, factor 2 scenes
GuyVG - 2nd β - 21/Apr/13 with Tim Lounds

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/13

Kevster - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/13

Hidden - 2nd β - 19/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/12

AlexD - 2nd dog - 13/Sep/12 with Ed

Happy to find this straightforward. Must try MWE.
Ed Babs - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/12 with AlexD

akhughes - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/12

Flummoxed by the crux section: couldn't work out the sequence or spot the holds
cem - 2nd dog - 19/Jun/12 with Chris Parson

Really hard!
BeccaSnowden - 2nd dog - 04/Jun/12 with Tom

Might be down to illness/heat/error but it felt near/as hard as Main Wall Eliminate. Hard, sustained and bold "first" crux, didn't remember there was a second one til I checked the guidebook after! Great route on good upper wall rock.
thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/12 with Becca

Spacetourist - Lead rpt - 02/Jun/12 with Lydia

drcorbasisgod - Lead O/S - Jun/12 with Charles Moreton

mwatson - Lead O/S - Jun/12

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/12 with Graham Charman

Graham C - 2nd O/S - 19/Mar/12 with Marti

Amazing climb with great exposure
Cailean Harker - Lead O/S - 25/Jan/12

Very nearly came off on the crux coming into the base of the groove, sloppy footwork, but such a brilliant climb all the way, dont understand why it was left out of the selective rockfax, absolute gem!
Mike Goldthorp - Lead O/S - 25/Jan/12 with Nick, Giles, Cailean Harker

Toby Dunn - Lead O/S - 19/Nov/11 with Justin Timms

Justin T - 2nd - 19/Nov/11 with Toby

richiebongo - Lead RP - 17/Oct/11 with Dan Perrot, Nick Smith

amazing line, as good as it looks.
danp - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/11

So nearly stacked the last move. found the good jug with a few seconds strength to spare.. 3 star route. fantastic.
benkelsey - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/11 with Remus Knowles

karenhh - 2nd dog - 09/Jul/11 with Tom Brierley

lots of pegs, but it doesn't make it any easier :/
Tom Brierley Gore - Lead dog - 09/Jul/11 with Shijing Hu

Pippa - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Richard

gazhbo - Lead - Jun/11

billb - Lead - Jun/11 with Mark Warnet

Spacetourist - Lead O/S - 25/May/11 with Rosea

Nice route.
colesy - Lead O/S - 06/May/11

Rosea Day - 2nd O/S - Mar/11 with Thomas Heslam

pezzerrr - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10

richiebongo - Lead dog - 06/Jul/10 with Nick Smith

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 04/Jul/10

Hidden - 24/Jun/10

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/10 with oscar

Aaron Lines - 2nd O/S - 2010 with frank ramsay

JulesV - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/09 with Will Boxen

Dunx - 2nd - 02/Oct/09 with Giles, Ru

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/09

feilx - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/09 with Heather

Bristoldave - Lead rpt - 06/May/09 with Jon Hauser

Messed up top crux. Small slump onto peg.
Bristoldave - Lead dog - 26/Apr/09 with Jon Hauser

jh5638 - 2nd dog - 26/Apr/09 with Bristol Dave

Hidden - Lead RP - 22/Nov/08

Numb as F
Paz - 2nd dog - 22/Nov/08 with WG

Paz - 2nd rpt - 28/Sep/08 with WG, HA

Hidden - 2nd dog - 01/Aug/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

Hidden - Lead rpt - 13/Aug/07

Paz - 2nd rpt - 09/May/06 with AS

Bern - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Aug/05

Pretty sure I took a rest somewhere on this one. Stunning face climbing though.
Will Homoky - 2nd dog - May/05 with Pete Milnar

Paz - Lead RP - 13/Apr/05 with AS

Hidden - Lead RP - 04/Jun/04

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/May/04

Seconded it (with tight rope assistance) to get my the gear back after my lead attempt lead to airborne retreat.
Paz - 2nd dog - 18/May/04 with AS

_m.cox_ - Lead O/S - Mar/04 with Adam Mulholland

cornishben - 2nd O/S - 2004 with Mike Raine

Ally Smith - 2003

KRB - Lead β - 29/Jun/02 with unseconded

John Southworth - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/01 with Jason Parker

ellis - Lead O/S - Sep/00 with Simon Witcher

Billg - Lead O/S - Jul/00 with Harry

Tim M - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - Lead RP - 25/Oct/97

Hidden - Lead dog - 18/Jun/96

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/May/96

Hidden - 06/May/96

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1994

Johnny Baker - 1994 with Nigel Birtwell

Stunning.
AndySL - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/93 with Tim

mattnuttall - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/93 with Alan Holden

Hidden - 2nd dog - 12/Dec/92

Nigel Coe - 2nd - 1992 with Ray Mardon

mark-abz - 2nd - 04/Nov/90 with Dan W

shark - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/89

keefe - 21/Aug/88

Rich Kirby - 2nd - Jul/88

DDDD - 1987

William Robertson - Lead O/S - 1986 with Emily

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Nov/85

Seconded the year before. More sustained than cruxy. E3 5c.
stp - Lead rpt - 28/Jun/83

andy gittins - 1983

Hidden - Lead O/S - Nov/82

Hidden - 1981

Hidden - Lead - 1981

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Voting
Total votes cast 85
hard E40 of 30
E40 of 30
easy E41 of 30
hard E318 of 30
E311 of 30
easy E30 of 30
hard E20 of 30
E20 of 30
easy E20 of 30
hard 6b0 of 30
6b0 of 30
easy 6b0 of 30
hard 6a0 of 30
6a23 of 30
easy 6a7 of 30
hard 5c0 of 30
5c0 of 30
easy 5c0 of 30
3 Stars24 of 25
2 Stars1 of 25
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Style of ascent

Lead58 of 102 (56.9%)
Followed30 of 102 (29.4%)
Unknown14 of 102 (13.7%)

'Climbed'23 of 102 (22.5%)
clean O/S46 of 102 (45.1%)
clean β3 of 102 (2.9%)
clean rpt8 of 102 (7.8%)
clean RP6 of 102 (5.9%)
dogged14 of 102 (13.7%)
dnf2 of 102 (2.0%)