Horseman's Route* HS 4b
[mike abbing in don't think he's going to b able to make it to first pitch, 3 kb]2 pitches. Flying Buttress

Ticklists: West Country Climbs, Best Multi-pitch Severe and Hard Severe.

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This climb is in 227 logbooks, and on 14 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead - 07/Oct/14

RD P1
rd20 - AltLd O/S - 20/Sep/14 with Dave T

Led P1 (gear is a bit thin). Monica P2.
mariannekhoo - AltLd rpt - 18/Sep/14 with Monica G

smolders - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/14 with Alaric

Went to church in the morning. Couldn't miss the opportunity as there was a service. Caught up with the others after lunch.
Alaric - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/14 with Martin

Lead 1st pitch
andyclimber - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/14

Nice line, with great views. I led p1, James p2.
natalio - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/14 with James H

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 09/Sep/14

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Sep/14

sshandy - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/14 with Zoe Pickering

cas smerdon - 2nd dnf - 07/Sep/14 with James Pomeroy, Lucy

Nice. More like HS 4b at the start.
Jules Lane - AltLd O/S - Sep/14 with Mynydd Rob P

marcushorgan - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/14 with Will Grayson

pimpy - AltLd - 30/Aug/14 with Marcus Horgan

Hidden - 16/Aug/14

Marti999 - AltLd O/S - 16/Aug/14 with Debbie

Led both pitches
Mike Bayley - Lead rpt - 14/Aug/14 with Lee Attwater

freemanTom (Guildford MC) - 2nd - 12/Aug/14 with David Eccles, Curly Rich

p1 only
bullybones - Lead - 19/Jun/14 with Neil

philmcf - AltLd O/S - May/14

Hidden - 2014

Lead P2, climbed in the mist on the first day on Lundy
alastairbegley - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/13 with Sarah Flint

Slick - AltLd - 21/Sep/13 with Isabel Evans

fishinwater - AltLd - 21/Sep/13 with Al Begley

Hidden - AltLd - 21/Sep/13

Hidden - Lead - 11/Sep/13

sammycolon - 11/Sep/13

John Brayshaw - AltLd rpt - 10/Sep/13 with Erica

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Sep/13

Hidden - Lead - 10/Sep/13

Led P2
khalidq - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/13 with Chris Colebrook

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/13

Montecore - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/13 with Sally Slade

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/13

Led the first pitch, which was still a bit wet due to preceding rain.
Big Lee - AltLd O/S - 03/Sep/13 with Anna Kennedy

annak - AltLd O/S - 03/Sep/13 with Lee Harrison

arandall - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/13 with Wendy Matthews

ChrisHarris1981 - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/13 with Duncan Turner

I had already lead the top pitch while waiting for the tide to drop. The solo was lovely.
SGD - Solo β - 09/Aug/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/13

Really nice route, thoroughly enjoyed myself. 2nd pitch was more diamond solitaire but who cares? Lovely. Keep centre on P1 for best climbing.
DerwentDiluted - AltLd - 07/Aug/13 with Nicola Pettit

Duncan Turner - Lead - Aug/13

Wendy Watthews - 2nd O/S - Aug/13 with arandall

went to climb diamond solitaire but storm threatened so used as quick exit route. Took the Direct start( VS)then flew up....but not quick enough..soaked!!
darren hudson - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/13 with David Ford

Hidden - Lead - 27/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/12

AndyCook - 2nd - 17/Sep/12

jordan taylor - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/12

Joris.Roulleau - 2nd O/S - 16/Sep/12 with Richard Lizzimore

rfdl100 - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/12 with Joris

Pitch 1 only (actually I may have been too far left on easier ground anyway), then downclimbed to do Diamond Solitaire
Nick Russell - Lead dnf - 15/Sep/12 with Emily

Loic led P1, I led P2. Went offroute to the thin crack on the black slab on P2 - not HS. Was too short to reach anything remotely positive from the ledge below the thin crack but had a bomber brass offset deep in the hand crack, so dynoed for the flake above.
mariannekhoo - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/12 with Loic Menzies

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Sep/12

1st pitch, done 2nd pitch before
Kevster - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/12 with Will T

Anthony Dixon - AltLd - 04/Sep/12 with Alan

BenLarby - AltLd - Sep/12 with Stu

Alan Dixon - Sep/12 with Anthony Dixon

Led P1. A fine route.
Becky E - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/12 with Steve Lismore, David Brown

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Aug/12

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/12

Ruth ND - 2nd O/S - Aug/12 with Goater

Rob84 - AltLd rpt - 07/Apr/12 with Alex Messenger

cymjt - 2012

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Oct/11

Piers Harley - AltLd - 26/Sep/11 with Rob Marson

good route shame the middle stance is separate, feels more like two different climbs. i think 1 star might be a bit tight. led both pitches
LukeP LCC - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/11 with rachael wragg

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Sep/11

Headjamm - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/11 with Geoffers

Hidden - Lead - 30/Aug/11

Lead second pitch
Tala M - AltLd O/S - 28/Aug/11 with Matt Thomas

Lead 1st pitch with the sea nipping at my heals. Slightly thin up the first slab but it eases towards the 1st belay.
matthomas79 - AltLd O/S - 28/Aug/11 with Tala Murdock

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Aug/11

adamlevs - AltLd O/S - 28/Aug/11 with Rob Gillman

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Aug/11

mikeydee135 - 2nd O/S - 25/Aug/11 with Jerzy, Mai Wong

I led pitch 1. Very windy with a fast-rising tide, exciting stuff. Grade spot on - 4a climbing with spaced protection = HS 4a.
Simon Caldwell - AltLd O/S - 25/Aug/11 with Carmen

Brilliant route, great feeling traversing the tunnel but the guidebook gives it hs 4a which I think is a bit sandbaggy, first pitch is thin and gear on the whole route is too small for a hs with that much exposure
Blurgy319 - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/11 with Tom Furey

Rachel Somerville - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/11 with Graham

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Aug/11

bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/11 with Amanda

spondulix - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/11 with Carol

Pitch 2.
Ffej - AltLd - 05/Aug/11 with Chris Sansum

Chris P1, Jeph P2. Used for a quick exit due to impending darkness!
Chris Sansum - AltLd O/S - 05/Aug/11 with Jeph Stewart

98%monkey - Lead O/S - Aug/11 with Jeff

Graham Booth - AltLd O/S - Aug/11 with rachel somerville

lithos - AltLd - Aug/11 with teflonpete

Ffej - AltLd - 31/Jul/11 with Phil Mitch

Hidden - AltLd - 31/May/11

With the sea lapping at your feet this route is a brilliant intro to the island, or so we thought :)
ColinD - AltLd - 31/May/11 with John Norman

Led P1.
gibsond - AltLd O/S - 27/Sep/10 with Steve Newman

tev - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/10 with DAJ

Amazing positions - defintely worth 3 stars in my book
Tom Hutton - AltLd - 21/Sep/10 with Summerblue, dansmonkeytroubles

dansmonkeytroubles - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/10 with Steph Duits, Tom Hutton

P1 only after retreating from Diamond Solitaire due to extreme slimyness.
victim of mathematics - Solo rpt - 18/Sep/10

RCrockford - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/10 with Jonah

Led 1st pitch
erica - AltLd rpt - 11/Sep/10 with John

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/Sep/10

Led P1. A lovely route.
victim of mathematics - AltLd O/S - 11/Sep/10 with Claire

John Brayshaw - AltLd rpt - 11/Sep/10 with Erica

Bex_M - AltLd O/S - 11/Sep/10 with Rich Ellis

VofM led 1st pitch, I led 2nd
Leelogs - AltLd O/S - 11/Sep/10 with victim of mathematics

petecallaghan - AltLd O/S - 10/Sep/10 with Bob Dawson

nickstephens - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/10 with Nancy Jones, Peter Jones

Second pitch only due to high tide
petecallaghan - 2nd O/S - 07/Sep/10 with Bob Dawson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/10

good exposed climbing, would have thought more stars for exposure at the grade.
benkelsey - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with Remus Knowles

Fatclimber - 2nd - 03/Sep/10 with Huw

kd/ph
cayteye - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/10 with Paul Highams

tradguy - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10 with katy dartford

jshields - AltLd - 29/Aug/10 with Ian Hicks

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Aug/10

Homes - Lead - 22/Aug/10 with Fred

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/10

i think i climbed the slab too far left but enjoyed it none the less. the seccond pitch is just amazingly exposed. It looks hard, but you get on it, and jugs just keep appearing, amazing.
Dan Lane - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/10 with Ellie boylan

Amazing route, loved it, think it deserves 2 stars
elephant0907 - 2nd - 26/Jul/10 with Dan Lane

1st pitch - love them granite slabs. Chris lead the airy 2nd pitch (possibly higher & up Diamond Solitaire) - nicely exposed.
Alex Thompson - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/10 with Dreadlocks Chris

Pitch 2. Awesome fun.
willworkforfoodjnr - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/10 with Alex Thompson

Jess patel - Lead - 31/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/May/10

irish paul - Lead O/S - 30/May/10 with Sarah Joyce

Rob84 - AltLd O/S - 29/May/10 with Mike Thomas, Mat L

1st Pitch Only - Very delecate exposed start, Moved left to place gear then back right up centre of slab.(I am sure one of the guys in the photos is cheating up the left hand side!)
PaulWatson - Lead O/S - 27/May/10 with Rosy

Hidden - Lead - 22/May/10

I led 1st Pitch Magic 2nd Pitch
Albino - AltLd - 22/May/10 with magic

Led pitch 2
adamwesthead - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Forshaw

2nd pitch only
mick1jones - 2nd O/S - 11/Sep/09

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Sep/09

Quite a bold and technical start, particularly if a bit damp. Led P1.
Andy Clarke - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/09 with Alex

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Sep/09

Led pitch 2.
Mike Bayley - AltLd rpt - 18/Aug/09 with Martin Stevens

Really good climb, more technical than forceful. Excellent exposure and great location.
hcooper - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/09 with Jennifer Slack

Well up there in my top climbs to date! The traverse is fantastic. Really delicate climbing with an amazing sense of exposure above the sea below. Really loved this climb.
Jen80 - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/09 with Cooper

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Aug/09

pitch 1 ali. pitch 2 me. excellent route with an adventurous feel
pebbles - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/09

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Aug/09

led 1st pitch
michael burrows - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/09 with triggerhippy

Glyn Davidson - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/09 with Mike Burrows

Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/09 with Ellen Cobby

Ellen Cobby - 2nd - 24/Jun/09 with Adam Booth

Hidden - AltLd - 19/Sep/08

leonjones - AltLd - 16/Sep/08 with Ian Clifford & Nick Foot

cliffy - AltLd - 16/Sep/08 with Leon Jones and Nick Foot

Led 2nd pitch, enjoyed the traverse, unlike when I seconded it for the first time in 2004.
erica - AltLd rpt - 08/Sep/08 with John

Direct Start VS 5a
John Brayshaw - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/08 with Erica

James B - AltLd - 28/Aug/08 with Nigel

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/08

mad matt - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/08

timreynolds - Lead - 12/Aug/08 with Matt Reynolds

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/08

chrisallan - AltLd O/S - Aug/08

rockpool - 2nd - Aug/08 with ian pegg

Led p2, went the wrong way at top though.
net - AltLd - 09/May/08 with Simon Blythe

Shaw Brown - 2nd - 09/May/08 with Jeb

Caralynh - AltLd O/S - 02/May/08 with Dan (dpmuk)

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 02/May/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/May/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/May/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/May/08

dave657 - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/08 with mel_1

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/08

Darrell Read - AltLd - 16/Mar/08 with Henry Olver

Hidden - Lead rpt - 20/Sep/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/07

Richard Fox - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/07 with Rob Dorman

Hidden - Lead - 08/Sep/07

timreynolds - Lead - 21/Aug/07 with Dougie Allen

Hidden - AltLd - 16/Aug/07

jonathannewth - 2nd - 07/Aug/07 with Chris W, William W

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/07

Ybot Htulk - AltLd - Aug/07 with Dave

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/06 with Mike Hayes

Led 1st pitch
erica - AltLd rpt - 12/Sep/06 with John

John Brayshaw - AltLd rpt - 12/Sep/06 with Erica

Led top pitch, exposure wow
Mike Hall - AltLd - 11/Sep/06 with Sparkie

LS led second pitch up Flying Buttress.
alj - AltLd - 05/Sep/06 with leon skeldon

Hidden - 2nd - Sep/06

Hidden - Lead - 26/Aug/06

Marq - AltLd O/S - 25/Aug/06 with David (Exeter Uni)

Hidden - Solo rpt - 21/Aug/06

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Aug/06

Greypoint - couldn't remember a thing about it
Chris the Tall - Lead rpt - 20/Aug/06 with Nick & Kate

Katex - AltLd - 20/Aug/06 with Chris Moor, Nick Smith

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/06

Hidden - Lead - Aug/06

Geoffers - Lead O/S - Aug/06 with Jeff

steve mee - Lead dnf - 06/Sep/05 with Mich Mee

givemetea - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/05 with Bob

Bella - 2nd O/S - Sep/05 with Chris

Lead pitch 1.
Phil West - AltLd O/S - 15/Aug/05 with Shaun Walby

shaun walby - AltLd O/S - 15/Aug/05 with Phil West

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/05

JamieAyres - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/05 with Nigel Evans

Piers Harley - AltLd - 2005 with Chris Grimble

John Lisle - 2005

erica - 2nd - 08/Sep/04 with John

John Brayshaw - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/04 with Erica

Owen W-G - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/04 with Craven MC

timreynolds - 2nd - 26/Aug/04

Batty - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/03

GrahamHP - Lead O/S - Sep/03 with Kevin Ellis

Hidden - Lead β - Sep/03

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/03

five - AltLd O/S - Aug/03

led 2nd pitch
ferdia - AltLd O/S - 19/Oct/02 with Nia Wilcox, Andrew Wielochowski

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Sep/02

Roget - Solo O/S - 10/Aug/01

alan moore - 2000

colin milton - AltLd - 01/Sep/99 with eric milton

Rock Fairy - 2nd - 1999 with Carl

pneame - Sep/98

Frostie - Lead - Aug/98

andy_pemberton - Lead - Aug/98

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Sep/97

Led pitch 2
Iain Thow - AltLd - 04/Aug/96 with Chris Dodd

Rog Wilko - AltLd - Aug/96 with Debbie Wilkinson

Raggar - AltLd - 28/Oct/94 with Guy C, Clare M

eroica64 - Lead O/S - Sep/90 with Denis Crampton

Hidden - Solo O/S - 27/May/90

davemhart - Lead O/S - Aug/88

Chris the Tall - Lead - Sep/87

steve taylor - Lead - Sep/87 with mike chase

Tom V - Aug/86

Nigel Coe - AltLd - Aug/84 with Steve Portnoi

Hidden - Solo - 30/May/84

David Smith - Lead - Apr/81 with Richard Griffiths, Andy Bennett

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HS39 of 49
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