The groove is difficult and should be climbed in it's entirety.

P. Brian 1958

Niall13 17/Oct Lead O/S
Hidden 06/Sep -
samhyndman 13/Aug Lead
carr0t 08/Aug -
Hidden 30/Jul -
CacCarnBeag 23/Jul Lead
Lamb 23/Jul 2nd O/S
with Findlay Cranston
vanderz 22/Jun Lead O/S
with Conner O Grady
peterjph 19/Jun Lead O/S
with nicky hume
mike_tamanawis 07/Jun 2nd O/S
with Alasdair Burns, Andreas B
Hidden 07/Jun 2nd
Samantha Dickson 28/May Lead O/S
Hidden 25/May AltLd
Hidden 24/May 2nd O/S
Hidden 24/May Lead G/U
samhyndman 24/May 2nd O/S
grady_9 23/May 2nd O/S
Jude 23/May TR O/S

Didn't do top scrambly bit.

with Connor, Sarah K
skirton 23/May Lead O/S
with Connor, Jude
Hidden 18/May AltLd
sas 13/May 2nd

1st pitch only

with Jim D
MikwWebster 27/Apr AltLd
with Ross
Hidden 05/Apr Solo
grady_9 18/Mar Lead O/S
matthew885 ??/2015 Lead
Hidden 14/Sep/14 Lead β
Shed 11/Sep/14 Lead O/S
treviebouy2003 11/Sep/14 2nd O/S
with Shea, Ali Hodnett
Hidden 07/Sep/14 2nd O/S
Hidden 16/Aug/14 2nd
Hidden 13/Aug/14 Solo O/S
ClimbingGlen 31/May/14 Lead rpt
with Ana Piris
Hidden 31/May/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 16/Mar/14 Lead O/S
dmacmorris 16/Mar/14 Lead O/S

Great route but i climbed it with awful style and no flare but made it clean.

SGD 15/Mar/14 Lead O/S

1st pitch only. Excellent well travelled groove.

with Jonathan
alistairmontgomery ??/2014 -
Hidden ??/2014 Solo
Hidden 29/Sep/13 2nd
Hidden 01/Sep/13 -
Hidden 01/Sep/13 -
ClimbingGlen 31/Aug/13 2nd O/S
cat22 27/Jul/13 2nd rpt
with Hamish
Hidden 22/Jul/13 2nd
jesss 15/Jul/13 2nd
Hidden 09/Jul/13 -
noemie5438 09/Jul/13 2nd O/S
with Andrew Kesterton
Hidden 17/Jun/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 08/Jun/13 Lead O/S
planetmarshall 08/Jun/13 2nd O/S
johnkeith 30/May/13 2nd
andrewkeith 30/May/13 Lead
cjohn62 26/May/13 Lead
Nibs 25/May/13 2nd O/S
with Dave
zebidee 25/May/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/May/13 2nd
DundeeDave 05/May/13 Lead dog
ephraim 05/May/13 Lead β
with Dave M.
colin8ll 27/Apr/13 Lead O/S
with Ashlea, craig macleod
Yourlead 23/Apr/13 2nd
with Graham Penny
Milesy 20/Apr/13 2nd
with Brendan
Davy B 20/Apr/13 2nd
Tom Baird 06/Apr/13 Lead rpt

Once again it seemed a bit stiff for a v diff. Turns out there is a good reason for that.

with Philip Davison
eve29 05/Apr/13 2nd
with Andy
centurion05 05/Apr/13 Lead
with Yvonne
remi_mcm ??/2013 2nd
Hidden ??/2013 2nd O/S
KeithAlexander 15/Sep/12 2nd rpt
with Sarah
Hidden 11/Sep/12 Lead
cbeard 06/Sep/12 2nd O/S
Andy Hewison 02/Sep/12 Lead

Took the right hand exit, nice climb, interesting start

with Paul, Neale
Hidden 02/Sep/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 28/Aug/12 Lead O/S
Simon Caldwell 28/Aug/12 2nd O/S

Much less polished than the guidebook makes out!

with Carmen
radioshed 04/Aug/12 2nd O/S

in trainers - forgot shoes

with dave s
David Stevens 04/Aug/12 Lead O/S
yehti 27/Jul/12 Lead

Fun climbing, if you're not pushed for time then the arÍte above makes a pleasant, scrambly, top-out as well.

with Richard Knak
RAH 21/Jul/12 Lead O/S
with Helena
buzby78 15/Jul/12 Lead
MikwWebster 14/Jun/12 Lead
Hidden 02/Jun/12 Lead O/S
Julie Black 26/May/12 Lead O/S

Lovely well protected climbing, more an MVS. Go all the way up the corner for full enjoyment(ie don't go out left at the top for an easy finish).

morsy 15/Apr/12 Lead

found this awkward

with peter berwick
Hidden 31/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Antd 18/Mar/12 Lead O/S
with Liza Wolfson
isi_o 18/Mar/12 Lead
with Ewan Rodger
Hidden 18/Mar/12 2nd O/S
oliverk 11/Mar/12 AltLd

Pitch 1

with Marty
johannes 11/Mar/12 Lead O/S
henning82 11/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Nille 11/Mar/12 2nd O/S
Gary Macaulay 10/Mar/12 2nd
with Peter Berwick
grady_9 ?/Mar/12 Lead

Nice crack line. Pin scar fingers to start up to polished ledge. Good top out !

Yourlead 29/Feb/12 2nd
with Graham Penny
Laurence20 24/Feb/12 Lead rpt
with Theo Barnard
Hidden ??/2012 -
Callum Anderson ??/2012 -
Yourlead 28/Oct/11 2nd
with Graham Penny, Paul Freeman
CarlB 07/Oct/11 Lead β

Lost a gold hex by jamming it in too hard, other than that a good route.

SuperMike64 ?/Sep/11 Lead

By head torch

D_Wills 09/Aug/11 Lead O/S

found the start pretty akward and the finish also, didn't do second pitch as looked like a staircase.

sleeplessjb 09/Aug/11 Lead O/S
nich0las 09/Aug/11 2nd O/S
with Dave
Hidden 06/Aug/11 2nd
Ste Ridd 14/Jun/11 Lead
Hidden 12/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
Skudrick ?/Jun/11 Lead
KeithAlexander 28/May/11 Solo rpt
with MarkA
Hidden 23/May/11 2nd O/S
son of thor 23/May/11 Lead β

tough at the start. good moves.

cogg13 28/Apr/11 Lead rpt

felt harder than my onsight solo wtf! lack of concentration due to the safety of ropes?

alexpattillo 28/Apr/11 2nd
Hidden 21/Apr/11 Lead O/S
arduff 21/Apr/11 AltLd

Led the lower 4c pitch to the tree, CK led through

with Chales Kennelly
cogg13 15/Apr/11 Solo O/S

first onsight vs solo. tasty.

IamAJMiller 12/Apr/11 2nd O/S

Gordon lead, I seconded.

with Gordon
gmilne 12/Apr/11 Lead
with Andy
RobynT ?/Apr/11 -
Thoms6974 29/Mar/11 Lead O/S

Tall enought to reach over the difficulties at half-height

with Isi
isi_o 29/Mar/11 -
Hidden 26/Mar/11 2nd O/S
Sean Bell 03/Mar/11 Lead O/S


with Tim Cross
Hay ?/Mar/11 Lead


with Chris Barnett
Pete23 ?/Mar/11 Lead
with Neil Robb
russelln ??/2011 Lead O/S
Scottish78 ??/2011 -
Mike Hatherly ??/2011 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Paul L 26/Sep/10 Lead O/S
GScot38 18/Sep/10 Lead O/S
stewart100 04/Sep/10 Lead O/S
with Keith Lauder
franksnb 29/Aug/10 2nd
with Ed, Emma, keith
Hidden 29/Aug/10 Lead O/S
marcfoggo ?/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Jul/10 2nd O/S
Hidden 24/Jul/10 2nd O/S
Steve Gretton 23/Jul/10 Lead O/S
Lawrie Brand 23/Jul/10 2nd O/S
with Steven
Greg Boswell 17/Jul/10 Solo O/S
darrenasquith ?/Jul/10 2nd
MelH 25/Jun/10 Lead O/S

Nice route. :)

melville18 24/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
with claire melville
DundeeDave 12/Jun/10 Lead rpt
with Ben Hughes
Stuart Macfarlane 12/Jun/10 2nd
with Jeanie
Hidden 10/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 02/Jun/10 2nd
isi_o 02/Jun/10 Lead
rob askew 05/May/10 Lead O/S
with sean crombie
s crombie 05/May/10 Lead
Hidden 29/Apr/10 Solo
Hidden 11/Apr/10 Lead O/S
Roch 10/Apr/10 AltLd
with Rob Slack
sebrider 20/Mar/10 2nd
Hidden 19/Mar/10 Lead
cat22 13/Mar/10 2nd O/S
with Mike
Dopey_172 20/Feb/10 Lead RP

I had a small slip about 2 foot up but weighted the rope so no onsight, First VS as well so happy days.

with Murdo
mshorter ??/2010 Solo O/S
daWalt 08/Nov/09 Lead O/S
with Lisa
Cacyn 08/Oct/09 2nd O/S
with Ewan Whitaker
IamAJMiller 20/Sep/09 2nd O/S

Windy day at the crag.

KeithAlexander 20/Sep/09 2nd

karin led. interesting climb. kind of awkward.

davie.p. 19/Sep/09 Lead
with Dan
dgray455 19/Sep/09 AltLd
with davie_p
karinh 19/Sep/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 30/Aug/09 2nd O/S
Stuart Macfarlane 22/Aug/09 2nd
with Jeanie
Hidden 08/Aug/09 2nd O/S
Fiona Reid 02/Aug/09 Lead O/S

Nice climb, pretty easy for VS, quite polished.

with Mike
Mike-W-99 02/Aug/09 2nd
with Fiona
Hidden 11/Jul/09 2nd
ellis1 10/Jul/09 Lead O/S

An enjoyable route. a little polished but some really nice moves.

rusty_nails 10/Jul/09 2nd O/S
Neil Adams 21/Jun/09 2nd rpt
with Ross B
Captain Solo 11/Jun/09 Solo
simon_D 24/May/09 Lead O/S
with Kyle
rich neary 12/May/09 2nd O/S
with Rhys Newell
Hidden 02/May/09 Lead rpt
Mooseman 29/Apr/09 Lead O/S

I was very slow

with Mike
Stuart Macfarlane 25/Apr/09 2nd
with Jeanie
fatboy_dean 11/Apr/09 2nd
with Richard Parker
mastiffmat ?/Apr/09 Lead
robmack ?/Mar/09 Lead O/S
BRUCESTRAC ??/2009 Lead
with Chris Cracknell,Various
Ianshand ??/2009 -
Hidden ??/2009 -
Hidden ??/2009 -
JdotP 11/Oct/08 Lead O/S
with Joe Larner
joe larner 11/Oct/08 2nd
Hidden 05/Oct/08 2nd rpt
stuaart 28/Sep/08 Lead O/S
with Jo Clements
Hidden 25/Sep/08 2nd O/S
Hidden 21/Sep/08 2nd rpt
decs 21/Sep/08 AltLd O/S
with Konrad
jonskippy 28/Jul/08 2nd β
with Marcus
dp1 11/Jul/08 Lead O/S
Neilm18 11/Jul/08 2nd O/S
rachel959 11/Jul/08 2nd dog
with Dan Peach
Boistelle 23/Jun/08 Solo O/S
Hidden 15/Jun/08 Lead O/S
Ian Jones 10/Jun/08 -
with Christian Svenson (Swe)
kagreen 25/May/08 Lead RP
with Alistair montgomery
gordon henderson 24/May/08 AltLd O/S
with Chris
crisaitken 24/May/08 AltLd
suess 20/May/08 Lead
JiveWeasel 17/May/08 Lead O/S
Malcolm Auchie 08/May/08 Lead
with Adele Martin
groovypiper 21/Mar/08 Lead O/S
with Nial
Paulww 16/Mar/08 Lead O/S
with John
Hidden 16/Mar/08 2nd
TrollJester ??/2008 Lead O/S
with done many routes umteen times some solo
Hidden ??/2008 -
mhmiller ??/2008 2nd
with stuart smith
jess ??/2008 Lead O/S
with martin
Hidden ??/2008 Lead
ewan i ??/2008 Lead
Hidden ??/2008 2nd
gordon henderson 17/Oct/07 Lead

Fantastic climb

with Chris
crisaitken 17/Oct/07 2nd
steve.aisthorpe 10/Sep/07 Lead O/S
with John Lyall
Ross Barnes 09/Sep/07 Lead
with Ally
Stuart Macfarlane 08/Aug/07 2nd
with Jeanie, Iain F
Stuart Macfarlane 20/May/07 2nd
with Helen
victim of mathematics 05/May/07 Lead O/S
Cornish Merlin 05/May/07 2nd
calumalien ?/May/07 Lead O/S
with Wibbley
Hidden 29/Apr/07 Lead O/S
Hidden 22/Apr/07 2nd
dodfoster 18/Apr/07 Lead O/S
Stuart Macfarlane 14/Apr/07 Lead rpt
with Bruce
Hidden 14/Apr/07 -
bigbobbyking 02/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with Sam Clarke
Hidden ?/Apr/07 2nd O/S
Hay ?/Apr/07 2nd
with Stu Mac
alan wilson ??/2007 -
Hidden ??/2007 -
Hidden ??/2007 -
mterentiusvarro ??/2007 2nd
with Ellie
andymoin 05/Nov/06 2nd O/S
with sandy
DavPk 07/Oct/06 Lead O/S

Continued direct up the corner to top.

with Adam Henly
abbeywall ?/Oct/06 2nd
with K
beegsyboy 23/Sep/06 Lead O/S
with Eccie
Neil Mackenzie 23/Sep/06 2nd
with Tim
francois 22/Jul/06 Lead
with Lorna
Hidden 22/Jul/06 2nd
Hidden 28/May/06 2nd
Hidden ?/May/06 Lead O/S
centurion05 10/Apr/06 Lead O/S
with chadweak
Hidden 04/Apr/06 2nd O/S
francois ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
breithorn4164 ??/2006 Lead
with Paul
kdlauder ??/2006 Lead O/S
with Andy H
CurlyStevo ??/2006 Lead

Really not 4c or VS. Used to get MVS 4b. HS 4b would be fair for this one IMO.

the abmmc ??/2006 2nd
Hidden ?/Aug/05 Solo O/S
Stuart Macfarlane 02/Jul/05 Lead rpt
with John D
RAK 07/Jun/05 Lead
with Pete H.
Hidden 02/Jun/05 2nd
Hidden 17/May/05 Lead O/S
the abmmc 17/May/05 2nd
ali_robb ?/Mar/05 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2005 2nd
Stuart Macfarlane 05/Jun/04 Lead rpt
with Helen
Yourlead 12/Apr/04 TR
Hidden ??/2004 Lead dnf
alan moore ?/Nov/03 Solo
Yourlead 23/Apr/03 TR

Climbed on shunt

Hidden 21/Sep/02 Lead O/S
dave o 26/Jul/02 Lead O/S
with chris lawton
Hidden ?/Jul/02 Lead
Yourlead 24/Apr/02 TR

Climbed on shunt

IanMcC 18/Jul/01 2nd
DundeeDave 27/May/01 2nd
with Keith Wilkinson
Jamie B ?/May/01 Lead
with Robin Bankhead
greenroom ??/2001 Lead O/S
Old_Nick_S 03/Aug/00 Lead
with Robbie, Irene
DundeeDave 16/Jul/00 2nd
with Keith Wilkinson, Ben Hughes
DundeeDave 18/Jun/00 2nd
with Keith Wilkinson
IanMcC 20/May/00 Lead
with Ross Lindsay
Yourlead 08/May/00 Lead
with Raymond Simpson
Rob Davies ?/Apr/00 Lead
IanD353 ?/Mar/00 Lead O/S
with Ailsa
stugreen75 ??/2000 Lead O/S
graeme gatherer ??/2000 -
Yourlead 17/May/99 TR


Hidden ??/1999 -
Yourlead 11/Oct/97 TR


DundeeDave 05/Aug/97 Lead
with Jill Hughes, Ben Hughes
auld al ?/Aug/97 Solo O/S
DundeeDave 20/Jul/97 2nd
with Steve Wilkinson
Hidden ??/1997 2nd O/S
Richard Weller 27/Sep/96 Lead O/S
with Keith Morris
Niall B ??/1996 2nd
Cassidy 26/May/95 Lead O/S
with David Cassidy
Yourlead 07/Apr/95 Lead
with Ric Gregory
Hidden 06/Aug/94 Lead
tev 31/May/94 Lead
Yourlead 17/Apr/94 Lead
with Hugh Muchcamp
Marti999 ??/1994 Lead
Yourlead 31/Mar/93 2nd
with Graham Penny
Yourlead 29/May/92 TR


Yourlead 21/Apr/92 TR


Yourlead 18/Sep/91 Lead
with Helen Penny
Yourlead 15/May/91 2nd
with John Bocher, Rachel Bocher
Yourlead 25/Apr/91 Lead
with Jim Drysdale, Mike Assenti
Yourlead 31/Jul/90 Lead
with Jim Hamilton
Yourlead 10/Jun/90 Lead
with Jim Drysdale
Hidden 13/May/90 Lead
Yourlead 11/Mar/90 2nd
with Graham Penny
Yourlead 25/Feb/90 2nd
with Richard Gatehouse
Neil Henderson 23/Aug/89 Lead
with Martin McLoughlin
Yourlead ?/Jul/87 2nd
with Donald Williamson
Dave Douglas 27/May/87 2nd O/S
with my dad
rossn ??/1986 Lead
howifeel ??/1986 Lead dog

My first lead, my first fall, HS 4b then I think, maybe VS. Of course falling is eventful, a challenge to overcome. I'd already soloed the Severe crack to the right so was encouraged well by my brilliant tutor in how to lead, John.

with John MacSporran
johnkeith ??/1985 -
with G. Callander
Hidden ??/1985 Lead
Gordon Stainforth 28/Jul/84 Solo

Overgraded at VS

amcleish ??/1984 -
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