Cioch Crack** VS 4c
[It doesn't get any easier with age! Climber topping out on Cioch Crack., 4 kb]11m. Jam the widening crack on the right to reach ledges. Squirm up the wide chimney/crack to easier ground then mantel between 'the paps', or escape off right for an easier (VS 4c) time. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: Eastern Grit Jamming, Wide Cracks, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Eastern Peak Grit 100 VD- VS, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+.

Photo: It doesn't get any easier with age! Climber topping out on Cioch Crack. © Mr. K

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This climb is in 114 logbooks, and on 13 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Oct/14

PeteH - 2nd O/S - 24/Sep/14 with Chris Fox

The jamming crack was greasy, steep and desperate. Did the paps mantel. Fierce.
Jimbo C - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/14 with Chris, Spiros

Dan Geh - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14 with ifletcher, Adam Jordan, Thomas Geh

tgeh - 2nd rpt - 29/Jun/14 with imogene, adam jordan, dan geh

AMJ098 - 2nd O/S - 29/Jun/14

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 01/Jun/14

Hidden - 2nd - 26/May/14

HVS 5a with the mantle. infact HVS 5a for the starting crack too.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 22/May/14

chickened out of the top mantel as per guide
john_ni - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/14 with Richard Williams (PCC)

Tim tried starting moves, I took over...
Oliver Houston - Lead β - Apr/14

tried to lead it. failed miserably, then 2nd oli up it
TimG - 2nd β - 29/Mar/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/14

lukimotaka - 2nd O/S - 16/Feb/14 with Josh

DaveFidler - Lead O/S - 02/Jan/14 with Swiss Chloé

lukimotaka - 2nd O/S - Jan/14 with Josh

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/13

tgeh - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/13 with Liam

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Oct/13

Dan Vaj - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/13 with Dave Chidgey

HVS 5a in the guide, which seems more reasonable.
Harri777 - 2nd - 06/May/13 with Simon H

Hidden - Lead dog - 06/May/13

m675bowsl - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/13 with Andy Kirby

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Nov/12

Sam Simpson - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12 with Tom Dolden

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Oct/12

patsaunders - Lead - Oct/12

Jones_d - 2nd O/S - 29/Sep/12 with Roman

TRFrost - Lead β - 16/Sep/12 with W. Hooke

Wil.Hooke - Lead β - 16/Sep/12 with Frost

Epic fail. Struggled to get off the ground. I've not climbed enough 5a to know but certainly much harder than 4b. Won't be trying it again in a hurry. Looks a fine route though!
SuperstarDJ - 2nd dnf - 09/Sep/12 with Kenny Watson

Surely no more than VS 4c for the start - there are harder 4c jam cracks around!, but worth a comedy HVS 5a for the final mantel!
Just Another Dave - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/12 with Ian Lau

Hidden - 2nd β - 09/Sep/12

5a to get off the ground, graunchy fun thereafter.
victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 02/Sep/12 with J-Ro

did the right hand 5a start and the HVS "hug the paps" finish. Made for quite a soft touch HVS 5a, but great quality,
adam carless - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/12 with victim of mathematics

SecretSquirrel - 2nd - 02/Sep/12 with j-ro

stuaart - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/12 with Dave Payne, Neil Redgrave

Hidden - Sent O/S - 18/Jun/12

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 12/May/12 with Mikael

Hard to start but soon eases
harold walmsley - Solo O/S - 22/Mar/12

Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 17/Mar/12 with Jim

Jim Slater - Lead rpt - 17/Mar/12 with Graeme

john lynch - Lead O/S - 13/Jan/12 with Lewis Andrew

Hidden - 2012

really tough start but then classic gritstone all the way to the top.
Steven Andrews - Lead - 22/Oct/11

Mr. K - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Adam Jennings, Jon Stewart

Tamati - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/11

disturbed_one51 - 2nd - 19/Sep/11 with Will Ward

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Sep/11

On Matt's gear
mark20 - Lead β - 17/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/11

Oceanic - 13/Aug/11

4b?The route I did had a 5a start!Where does 4b come from? Definitive guide has 4c and Rockfax 5a
andybirtwistle - Lead - 02/Aug/11 with Keith Lonsdale

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/11

belay bunny turned bad - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/11 with loundsy

cragtyke - 2nd - 02/May/11 with gareth h, john g

Hidden - 2011

Jonathan Hall - 2nd - 16/Nov/10 with Rob Middleton

hrgcb - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/10 with prinny

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Aug/10

bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10 with Jamie

Jim Slater - 2nd O/S - 24/Jun/10 with Graeme

not much gear but atleast its not hard
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/10 with Jim

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2010

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - 2010

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/09

mattyork2 - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Grant Brewer

Definately HVS with the mantel finish.
James_D - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/09 with Mel

Mick r - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/09 with Scott, Martin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/May/09

Diggler - 2nd - 09/May/09 with dave connelly

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/May/09

jchenoweth - 2nd O/S - 02/May/09 with Charlie Jeynes

Hidden - Lead rpt - 11/Apr/09

Hard start...... definitly not a 4C start. HVS 5a in my guide book.
JWB - Lead O/S - 02/Jan/09 with Karen

Hidden - 2009

Martin Haworth - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/08 with Andy

Fell off initial crack!Very tough mantle exit.
Andrew Sloan - 2nd dog - 19/Oct/08

with HVS mantle finish
howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/08 with Chris FitzHugh

not sure what grade this needs to be
Pilch - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/08 with Graham and Ed

EdShep - 2nd O/S - 13/Sep/08 with Pilch and Graham

craig matheson - Solo O/S - Apr/07

John Lisle - 2007

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/05

kp64zl - Lead - Jul/04 with Keith

mikej - 2nd - 22/Jun/04 with Rick Naylor

cem - 2nd - 13/Apr/03 with Graham Dolman

PenJD - Lead O/S - 19/May/02 with Arnaud Garcon

Hidden - Solo - 08/May/02

ArnaudG - 2002 with Penny

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/00

Hidden - 2000

Very physical, not a pushover at the grade!
Jamie B - Lead - May/99 with Anthony Celli

Roget - Solo O/S - 09/Oct/98

Hidden - TR - 28/Jun/98

Hidden - 1997

sandbag.
Rog Wilko - Lead - Oct/96 with Debbie Wilkinson

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Jul/95

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/May/94

Hidden - Solo - 08/Aug/93

Hidden - Lead - Apr/91

Hidden - 1990

Andy Say - Solo - 14/Mar/81

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1980

David Smith - 1980

Chris Craggs - Lead - 1980

Nigel Bond - Lead - 04/Jun/78 with Tony Cuddy

Hidden - Lead - 29/Apr/78

Hidden - Solo O/S - 16/Jul/77

Hidden - Lead - 10/Jul/77

Derek Ryden - Solo O/S - 1976

rogerskews - 1971

mikej - Lead - 25/Feb/67 with Frank Chester

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