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A great climb. Traversed in from the climbers col after traversing round from the gondala and approaching up the ridge to get a good look at the cornices. First pitch was a snow slope and the second had a great ice pitch. Final pitch was up the snow slope to the cornice that was easy passable by following the snow arÍte to the top.
Jimmy1976 - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/13 with John

Robertgiddy - Lead - 03/Mar/13

Daniel Sutherland - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/13 with Liam

Liam Martin - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/13 with Daniel Sutherland

Slick - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/13 with Isabel Evans

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Mar/13

mzchambers - Solo - 27/Feb/13 with Mark Ice

Not much gear to find, enough for the occasional belay.
daWalt - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/13 with Lisa

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Feb/13

markwarner - Solo - Feb/13

JDG2428 - 2nd - Feb/13

gee-whizz - AltLd - 24/Jan/13 with Tel-goatman

gee-whizz - Lead β - 23/Jan/13 with ken applegate, Tel-goatman

Generally good, but with some patches of cruddy ice.
Ken Applegate - Solo - 23/Jan/13

Conditions made it a grade 2
neilwiltshire - AltLd - 12/Jan/13

climbed in typical scottish winter conditions, gully was banked out with snow, nice steep ice pitch above half way, not much in the way of protection. no problems at the cornice
Jenko - AltLd O/S - 29/Jan/12 with Nick Southern

Big cornice but good neve
andybrown114 - 2nd - 27/Jan/12 with Guy Buckingham, Ade Mellor

akhughes - Solo - Jan/12

Col Kingshott - AltLd O/S - 07/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead rpt - 06/Mar/11

Hidden - AltLd - 27/Feb/11

Owen1984 - 2nd - 27/Feb/11

Hidden - Solo O/S - 27/Feb/11

Hot!
smcw - Lead O/S - Feb/11

oliverk - AltLd - 30/Jan/11 with Joe

Hidden - Lead - 30/Jan/11

Last minute decision because of queue's on other routes. Lead all three pitches. Ice on the first, then well banked out up to the cornice. Cornice was 'exciting'!
ernie27uk - Lead O/S - 30/Jan/11

riven - AltLd O/S - 30/Jan/11 with Ollie Kenyon

Bob.allan - 2nd - 23/Jan/11 with Jason Mitchell

The use of a very kind man's rope to get through the cornice was very much appreciated.
AMarchant - Solo - 23/Jan/11 with Phil Dwyer

Ice Spider - Lead - 23/Jan/11 with Bob Allan

Climbed the direct start up the icefall.
Jim Slater - 2nd O/S - 02/Jan/11 with Grahame, Phil

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jan/11

ice in the middle as not fully banked out
David86 - AltLd O/S - 01/Jan/11

Hidden - AltLd - Jan/11

Hidden - 2011

adie84 - 2011

MariaT - 2nd - 31/Dec/10 with Richard Wilkinson

minch - 2nd - 23/Dec/10

gripped01 - Lead - 12/Dec/10 with Dave Tait

A very thin ascent, with avalanche debris at the the bottom, verglas and water ice in the steep mid section and near vertical snow at the top to the cornice. Probably in these conditions with little snow, closer to a III as nothing banked out. Good technical and balancey climbing in the narrower mid section. Great first route of the winter.
Moonstone Hippy - Solo O/S - 07/Nov/10 with Phil

Good consolidated snow on an icy base. Rock gear was tricky to dig out for the leader, first belay was on two ice screws. Significant cornicing at the top.
PeteH - 2nd O/S - 23/Jan/10 with Dave Leonard

Nice snow, rock heavily rimed making finding gear/belays interesting. Pleasant cornice swimming.
DaveLeonard - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/10 with PeteH, Hollie Kirwan

Started on Lickerty Split Ice fall, Grade IV.
Rick Ashton - AltLd - 29/Dec/09 with Iain Maccallum

stev1e.wilso - 2nd - 28/Dec/09 with Tom, Dylan

bigbadbob12345 - Lead - 28/Dec/09 with Steve Wilson

3 pitches. Clagged in and thawing conditions. Was actually raining. Could see that snow was slipping away from the rock. Griff led 1st pitch. A large rock came unstuck at the belay (scary moment #1). Griff managed to stop it falling until it was safe to let it go. Novice led 2nd pitch. I led final pitch up over cornice. very dangerous. Snow was sugary and cornice had receeded leaving a crevasse full of wet snow underneath. Managed to plant my axes on summit and used my arms to pull up so as not to put full weight on crap snow ledge. Threw legs over to safety. Snow in crevasse was collapsing when seconds stood on it. Lesson learned: should not have climbed on an east facing slope in thawing conditions.
climberuk - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/09 with Novice and Griff

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Feb/09

Hannah's first winter lead!
Ken Applegate - 2nd - 22/Feb/09 with Hannah Evans

Hannah Evans - Lead - 22/Feb/09 with Ken Applegate

Danny lead the direct ice bulge start, then we moved together as time was pressing.
Zoomer - AltLd - 19/Feb/09 with Danny Mc Andrew

First winter climb. Great fun
Richard Gilbert - 2nd - 19/Feb/09 with Jerry Ostrowski

DannyMac - AltLd - 19/Feb/09 with glenn bloomer

sacdenouilles - 15/Feb/09 with J F Philippe, D Pemble

First ever winter climb - terrifying!
MagnusL - 2nd O/S - 09/Feb/09 with My mate Ash

stuartm555 - 2nd - 02/Jan/09 with Seb Rider

Hidden - Lead - 31/Dec/08

Ken Applegate - AltLd - Apr/08 with Dave Buckett

Jamie B - Lead rpt - 21/Feb/08 with Client

cliffy - Lead - 19/Feb/08 with Andrew Combes

munnsy - AltLd - 17/Feb/08 with James

Jamie B - Solo rpt - 13/Feb/08

started promising - middle section a bit bare but nice start and finish
halfaseesaw - AltLd - 11/Feb/08 with drmarten

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Feb/08

Rampikino - AltLd - 12/Jan/08 with Cat

joese7en - AltLd O/S - 2008

Hidden - Solo - 31/Mar/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Mar/07

BruceG - 2nd - 24/Mar/07 with Tim & John

Martyn - AltLd - Mar/07 with James Williams

Dannys first winter lead! I provided moral support
dan cowley - 2nd O/S - 21/Feb/07 with Danny Bolton

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Feb/07

bms - Solo - 12/Feb/07

Rampikino - Lead - 05/Feb/07 with Cat

tim newton - 2nd O/S - 04/Feb/07

david morse - Solo - Feb/07

tatz45 - AltLd O/S - Feb/07 with Jamie Tattersall

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/07

Hidden - Solo O/S - 27/Jan/07

Hidden - Solo - 27/Jan/07

keith leonard - AltLd - 2007

Julie Carroll - 2nd - 20/Mar/06 with Malcolm Dyson

Jim Haydock - AltLd - 04/Mar/06 with Guy (Fawksey)

Hidden - 2nd - Mar/06

edmitchell - AltLd O/S - Mar/06 with kai ren

Daigroom - Lead O/S - Mar/06 with Abbey

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Mar/06

HIGHTOWER - Lead O/S - 27/Feb/06 with Chris Morrison

jameshk - Lead - 26/Feb/06

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Feb/06

Great route, beautiful day, but plenty unconsolidated snow over friable ice
mart rich - AltLd O/S - 09/Feb/06 with Steve Moody

Epic Ebdon - AltLd O/S - 03/Feb/06 with Jon Rogerson

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Feb/06

dellboy - 2nd O/S - Feb/06 with Steve Wright, Staff Dyer

John Pickles - AltLd O/S - Feb/06 with Neil Mackay

latitude - AltLd - 30/Jan/06 with Andy Wilson

Jez - AltLd O/S - 23/Jan/06 with Jack

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Jan/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jan/06

reg_measures - Lead O/S - Jan/06 with beth, claire

tlmarjot - AltLd O/S - Jan/06 with Ric Moat, Ben Lea

Hidden - 2006

Ice Spider - Lead - 2006 with Rew

Hidden - Solo O/S - 29/Dec/05

Hidden - Solo - Dec/05

Captain Solo - Solo - 07/Mar/05

Bit of a boring snow plod
AndyH1710 - AltLd O/S - Mar/05 with Jason Day

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Feb/05

net - Feb/05 with Rich P & Jasper

Tom Last - 2nd - Feb/05 with Denise & Kevin

Hidden - Lead O/S - Feb/05

Tom Stoddart - AltLd - Feb/05 with Tom Slade

Hidden - AltLd - 31/Jan/05

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Jan/05

jaggy bunnet - AltLd - 29/Jan/05

dan cowley - Solo - 27/Jan/05

mike.moss - AltLd O/S - 2005

easers - Solo - Dec/04

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/04

Tim Bateman - AltLd - Feb/04 with Nick Beale

nige pacer - Lead RP - Feb/04

jamie ward - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/03 with simon fairman

Started with Lickety Split ice pitch then finished up gully. Steep exit.
Gman - Lead O/S - Mar/03 with Eamon

Hidden - Solo - Feb/03

luckyjim - Solo - Jan/03

Hidden - 2nd - Mar/02

Hidden - 2nd - Jan/02

Tarquin - 2002

Hidden - AltLd - 19/Apr/01

crowberry gully - 17/Feb/01 with Ross McGibbon

abbeywall - AltLd - 18/Jan/01 with K

Hidden - 17/Jan/01

Mickdenali - Lead O/S - Feb/00 with Steve Thomas

Jamie B - 2nd - Dec/97 with Mark Taylor

Hidden - Solo - 20/Jan/97

djdavies - AltLd - 11/Mar/93

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hard II/III0 of 18
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hard II4 of 18
II8 of 18
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Style of ascent

Soloed21 of 137 (15.3%)
Lead28 of 137 (20.4%)
Followed30 of 137 (21.9%)
Alt Leads50 of 137 (36.5%)
Unknown8 of 137 (5.8%)

'Climbed'80 of 137 (58.4%)
clean O/S52 of 137 (38.0%)
clean β1 of 137 (0.7%)
clean rpt3 of 137 (2.2%)
clean RP1 of 137 (0.7%)