Do Not Direct** E1 5b
[Do Not Direct, on the crux, 2 kb]46m, 2 pitches. A First class route with varied climbing and a superbly positioned second pitch. Low in the grade.

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This climb is in 232 logbooks, and on 15 wishlists.

Brannock - Lead - 03/Oct/15

Gudge - AltLd O/S - 30/Sep/15 with Bob Pilgrem

quality route-lead p1 this time.
bobpilgrem - AltLd rpt - 30/Sep/15 with Gudge

As one pitch, don't know why it's split in the guidebook. Nice climb but only one short hard bit.
Tom.Priestley - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/15

youwillfindjimbo - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/15 with Peter Metcalfe

flatnose - 2nd O/S - 23/Aug/15 with Andy Cross

MFB - 2nd - 12/Aug/15 with MB

P1. First pitch is easy until the crack. Crack is intimidating but not actually that hard, especially if able to reach a foot out wide. 2nd pitch very good also.
gav - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/15 with Neil Harvey

Hidden - Lead - 01/Aug/15

I led P1, Bob led P2. Really good route, enjoyed both pitches, although 10 minutes removing a nut at the start of P2 took the edge off it.
1poundSOCKS - AltLd O/S - 30/Jul/15

Nigel Bond - Lead - 30/Jul/15 with Bern Hardman

Lead top pitch -nice climbing.Mathew lead first pitch which had strenuous but well protected crux.
bobpilgrem - AltLd O/S - 30/Jul/15 with Matthew

Hidden - AltLd - 05/Jul/15

bwestwood - 2nd - 11/Jun/15 with pete sargeant

pie_eater_pete - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/15

Chris M - AltLd - 09/Jun/15 with Trystan Jones-Morris

Scooter Young - 2nd - 19/Apr/15 with Dave Parton, Ads

fulton333 - Lead - 14/Mar/15 with Struggs

sinistamonke - 2015

As one pitch.
Roberttaylor - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/14 with anne peale

As one pitch.
annep11 - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/14 with Robert Taylor

David Stevens - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/14 with Keith

steady first pitch
benka - AltLd - 07/Sep/14 with steve h

Hidden - Lead - 07/Sep/14

led recently but led pitch 1 today. Didn't plan to do it but was one of few dry routes. Pitch 1 harder to lead than second - strenuous putting gear in!
Lessworkmoreclimbing - AltLd - 01/Sep/14 with Kev

tmawer - AltLd rpt - 30/Aug/14 with Bram

BTphonehome - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/14 with Tony

benclimbing - AltLd O/S - 24/Aug/14 with jonskippy, Dave Latimer

jonskippy - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/14 with Dave Latimer, benclimbing

Dave Latimer - 2nd - 23/Aug/14

robbo157 - AltLd - 26/Jul/14 with Neil Cooper

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Jul/14

Good route good gear all the way. Done it in one long pitch. Don't hang round On the crack on pitch 1 just go.
chris smith - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/14 with Malcolm watson

brilliant route big holds good & gear on both pitches never hard
scott quinn - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Pete H

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jun/14

Excellent route. Strenuous in places but great situations. Difficult to determine crux but step across to nose was quite challenging.
Peter Metcalfe - Lead - 28/Jun/14 with Judith Neaves, Cath Sullivan

I led pitch 2 which is so nice position. Both pitches 5a and well protected.
Lessworkmoreclimbing - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/14 with Kev

Tim did p1 I took the top pitch. Straight forward throughout but great climbing!
Jonny Nick - AltLd - 31/May/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/14

Led p1. Soft for E1 but good route.
markfairbank - AltLd O/S - 26/May/14 with Ian Moore

AGoodi - 2nd O/S - 18/May/14 with suzana, Andy Laing

Fun and never too hard if you just keep going on the steep bit.
Suzana - Lead O/S - 18/May/14 with Andy Laing and Amy Godill

Hidden - 2nd - 16/May/14

P1 & P2. Thought this was an awesome climb, short well protected but hard crux on P1. Interesting 5a crux on P2, enough pro throught and some decent exposure.
Stroppy - Lead O/S - 05/May/14 with Peach

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/May/14

Tubs - AltLd rpt - 03/May/14 with Tim C

Martin Bagshaw - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/14 with Sole

martrin - AltLd - 15/Apr/14 with Paul Wood

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead - 29/Mar/14

Hidden - 12/Mar/14

arrang - AltLd O/S - 15/Oct/13

Mackinclimb - AltLd - 15/Oct/13

Led P2. Easy for the grade and lovely.
Kirill - AltLd O/S - 13/Oct/13 with Charles Moreton

Led p1 this time. HVS 5a?
cem - AltLd rpt - 13/Oct/13 with Kirill Spiridonov

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Sep/13

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Aug/13

joeflan - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/13

Rob Rocket - AltLd O/S - 20/Aug/13 with Scott Young

Scooter Young - AltLd - 20/Aug/13 with Rob Rocket

gforce - Lead - 08/Aug/13 with danimal, Rory OHM

Really nice climbing
Elsier - 2nd - 21/Jul/13 with Koon, Ian

Led P2
Koon - AltLd O/S - 21/Jul/13 with Ian B, Elsie

Mowglee - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Ali

manxclare - AltLd - 07/Jul/13 with jon22

airborne - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/13 with Huw Davies

Justin Shiels - Lead - 06/Jun/13 with Chris

First E1 on-sight. such a great route with a great position and amazing 2nd pitch exposure.
JanBella - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/13 with frazer

Hidden - Lead - 02/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 21/May/13

Lead second pitch. Forgot to go left, on the big holds and went straight up. More interesting than i suspected.
Olli-C - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/13 with Rachel Slater

Lead pitch 1. Felt HVS. Nice climbing.
Rachel Slater - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/13 with Olli Crudge

peter.ravenscroft27 - AltLd O/S - 13/Mar/13 with Sean Holmes

Woo-hoo factor 2. That hurt a lot.
tcn_2002 - Lead dnf - 02/Mar/13 with Ian Faulkner

6aPunter - 2013

Pohil - Lead - 14/Aug/12

mfisher - 2nd O/S - 12/Jul/12 with Olly Roberts

Pitch 1 + 2
ollyroberts - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/12 with Matty

Goose4 - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/12 with Alex Pokhilko

David lead the first pitch, and I lead the second. Amazing climb.
Sebastien Gastaud - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/12 with David Proctor

Lead 1st Pitch. Short intense section of steep wall towards the top. Seconded 2nd pitch which was much better with a necky start and fun moves towards the top.
dprctr - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Seb

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12

katyvose1 - 27/May/12 with Paul Tattersall

Em66 - 2nd - 27/May/12 with Andy Harper, Mat

mr mills - Lead O/S - 26/May/12 with edwin

Hannes B - AltLd O/S - 24/May/12 with John

Danny Crump - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/12 with Sarah Pentelow

climbingpixie - 2nd O/S - 07/Apr/12 with Andy

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/12

Pitch 1. What a great climb. Somehow missed it until now. Top pitch perfect position.
greenroom - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/12 with Colin

Led P2. Low in the grade overall, but falling off the 5a moves at the end of the traverse on the second pitch would be a bad idea. Very worthwhile.
victim of mathematics - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/12 with Frith

Pitch 2
oliverk - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/12 with Marty

martrin - Lead - 25/Mar/12 with Sarah Kekus

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 22/Mar/12

Lead first pitch 09, rained off in thunderstorm. Led 2nd pitch this time.
Abi Chard - AltLd O/S - 22/Mar/12 with Anna

joe_lancs - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/12

Hidden - AltLd - 13/Mar/12

Bob Windsor - 2nd - 2012 with Ted Rodgers

Dirk Uhlig - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/11

Did the classic start not the direct. Tricky move breaking left out of laugh knot but found it ok. Clacks rested few times.
beds74 - Lead - 28/Aug/11 with Craig Hartley

hartleycsh - 2nd - 28/Aug/11 with Paul Bedford

Misha - 2nd O/S - 31/Jul/11 with Tom, Ed

John Brayshaw - AltLd O/S - 29/Jul/11 with Dan

y2keable - 2nd O/S - 28/Jul/11 with John

Lee Sheard - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11 with timwiddop

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/11

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Jul/11

Anthony Dixon - AltLd - 09/Jul/11

Amy Kilpin - 2nd - 03/Jul/11

Swifty led bottom pitch, I led second pitch, but went off thsi route, and finished up Waste Wot Want Not. My 5th E1 lead.
bigglesbutcha - AltLd O/S - 01/Jul/11 with Swifty

steven - AltLd O/S - 01/Jul/11 with Tim Butcher

Hidden - Lead - 01/Jul/11

Shuttsie - 2nd - 01/Jul/11 with Andrea Sales

gb05 - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/11 with Claire Hoolohan

Messed up the crack/wall which is short but steep and strenuous. Paul lead top pitch which is superb and exposed.
DaveAtkinson - AltLd - 02/Jun/11 with P.Cannon

Claireee - 2nd - 02/Jun/11 with Gareth brading

harold walmsley - Lead O/S - 02/May/11 with Colin Struthers

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/11

Ken Taylor - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Chris Michalak

Led 1st pitch
Sophie Nunn - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Phil

Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/11 with dad

middlevern - 2nd - 19/Apr/11 with Mike Blood

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11

steve prior - AltLd O/S - Apr/11 with Roger C

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Little B - AltLd O/S - 11/Oct/10 with Paolo

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Aug/10

martrin - Lead - 20/Aug/10 with Sarah Kekus

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 16/Aug/10

Didn't feel that solid on White Ghyll Wall, but after a sandwich stop felt confident about giving this route a go. My first E1 lead!
Alaric - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/10 with Neil

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/10

theotherpetehill - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/10

zach.stone - 2nd dog - 03/Jul/10 with Peter Hill

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/10

tim newton - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/10 with sally lisle

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 31/May/10

Led 1st (5b) pitch.
HIGHTOWER - AltLd O/S - 31/May/10 with Andy Woolston

Led both pitches
Different Steve - Lead rpt - 30/May/10 with John Buchan

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 22/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/May/10

me p2, Matt p1
Cake - AltLd O/S - 08/May/10 with Matt

Hol - pitch 1; me - pitch 2.
DavidR - AltLd O/S - 03/May/10 with Holly Adamthwaite

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/May/10

cat22 - 2nd - 02/May/10 with Mike

Hidden - Lead - May/10

esther - AltLd - May/10

Led 1st (crux) pitch.
tatz45 - AltLd O/S - 24/Apr/10 with Jamie Tattersall

Hidden - AltLd - 24/Apr/10

Pretty soft - difficulties were tough but short lived
jonny taylor - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/10 with Andy B

pumpy boulder on pitch 1, excellent pitch 2.
Tomprusk - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/10 with Tom Ripley

Great first route of the day, first to get the sun and a good warm up.
Dave Warburton - AltLd O/S - 07/Mar/10 with Timmy

lead in 1 pitch. good soft E1
tomhull - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/09 with dave thornley

nakedave - 2nd O/S - 11/Sep/09 with Tom Hull

Christian Beck - Lead O/S - Jul/09

Hidden - 27/Jun/09

Led P2
Bristoldave - AltLd O/S - 02/May/09 with Jon Hauser

Pitch 1 (5b)
jh5638 - AltLd O/S - 02/May/09 with Bristol Dave

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09

ian caton - Lead O/S - 2009

ian caton - Lead O/S - 2009

Hidden - 2009

Seymore Butt - 2009

Seymore Butt - 2009

Dan 85 - AltLd O/S - 16/Nov/08 with Mark

First pitch is a bit of a scramble up to a boulder problem, good though. Second is much better and felt harder.
thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/08 with Alan

Tom led all this. First pitch is really easy up to the top wall which turns out to be really hard. Fell off, first fall off a route for quite some time I believe! Some really awkward layback moves with small foot holds. I went out left when I should have been looking out right for better holds. Got it second time but a bit disappointed! It was starting to get dark and it became evident we were going to be late. Tom dropped a few wires but Dan got em as he was on the adjacent route. Second pitch is great but looked scary! Have to move out right round a holybush to start, then up relatively easily until the overlap is reached. Then technical moves out left, holding onto small holds traverse out left by swinging feet up and left until you can reach round to hidden holds. From here it is up pretty easily. Walk down was okay if getting a little dark...
Reaver2k - 2nd dog - 16/Nov/08 with Tom Dixon

Did top pitch of Slip Knot instead as it was starting to rain...
net - 2nd - 12/Oct/08 with Max & Blue

P1 only, then Slip Not P2 as done P2 before.
danm - Lead - 27/Sep/08 with Jim Danson

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 25/Sep/08

dannyboy83 - 2nd O/S - Aug/08 with Dad

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 26/Jul/08 with Alan Walmsley

my 1st ever e1 second.
andrew sandercock - 2nd β - 15/Jun/08 with jon armstrong

Ben1983 - AltLd O/S - 18/May/08

Led P1, a short, sharp crack..
Different Steve - AltLd O/S - 07/Sep/07 with Aaron Willis

Led p2
cem - AltLd O/S - 25/Aug/07 with David T

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead - 10/Jun/07

joe larner - Lead O/S - 26/May/07

John Kettle - AltLd O/S - 25/May/07

simon kimber - Lead O/S - 2007

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Sep/06

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Jul/06

ChrisJD - AltLd - 15/Jul/06 with rc

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/06

Tom Phillips - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/06 with mick

danm - AltLd - 08/Jun/06 with Bob

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/06

reg_measures - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/06

Shaw Brown - AltLd - 21/Aug/05 with David Jones

Graham Iles - AltLd - 21/Aug/05 with Carissa Lough

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/05

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jul/05

Andy S - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/05 with Heather

GPN - AltLd - May/05 with Jamie Moss

Chris Wright - AltLd - 31/Mar/05

Chris Wright - Lead - 31/Mar/05

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Apr/04

John Pickles - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/03 with Jill Singleton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/02

Did the direct start which is a little more in the modern idiom
Bob - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/02 with M. Bullough

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Aug/02

Bob - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/02 with M. Bullough

NickJH - 2002

Trobbo - 2nd - 22/Aug/01 with andy hartley - 2nd - 2000

Dave Musgrove Jnr - Lead - 25/Jun/99 with Jon Sykes

Hidden - AltLd - 1998

Dave Westby - Lead - 1997 with Rob Lewis

Dave Westby - Lead - 1996

Hidden - AltLd - 1995

rob.grafton - AltLd - 29/May/94 with Bruce

Andy Say - Lead - 09/May/93

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/92

uphillnow - 2nd - 01/Jul/91

malc - AltLd - 19/May/91 with N Boyd

mikej - AltLd - 29/Jun/90 with Mike Byles

sadams - AltLd - 14/Apr/84 with Chris Thwaites

Hammy - Lead - 22/Mar/84 with Ian Cooksey

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 01/May/83

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Oct/82

Hammy - Lead - 13/May/81 with Richard Sage

Mike C - AltLd - 23/Jun/80 with Brian Wilderspin

robinsi197 - 1980 with Barbara

Mark Kemball - Lead dnf - 21/Jun/77

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