4 pitches. Seems often in condition with a nice icy first pitch and a choice of icy finishes. Easy angled in between. Good choice for a first III

Hidden 04/Feb Lead rpt
Mountain Gal 04/Feb 2nd
JamesRoddie 01/Feb Solo
tallpaulselfridge 01/Feb AltLd O/S
picasso 01/Feb Solo
John Dale 01/Feb AltLd
Hidden 31/Jan AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2015 -
fall-line 13/Apr/13 AltLd O/S
with Sarah Kirton
skirton 13/Apr/13 AltLd O/S
nich0las 13/Apr/13 Lead
with Catriona C
Quad 11/Apr/13 2nd O/S

Moved together until we reached the ice about half way up and pitched the rest.

with Patrick
Yourlead 08/Apr/13 Lead

2nd route of the day. Soloed up to final ice pitch and lead steeper ice on the left. A nice wee route with great ice.

with Graham Penny
Hidden 07/Apr/13 Solo
karinh 07/Apr/13 AltLd
with ivonne
Hidden 07/Apr/13 2nd O/S
richy381 07/Apr/13 AltLd rpt

Bit of an odd one. Passing axes between us and the party ahead.

Hidden 07/Apr/13 Lead
caro c 06/Apr/13 2nd
with David B
Areteroute 05/Apr/13 2nd O/S

First Grade 3. Seconded Bobby Motherwell along with Eric Horne. Fantastic climb in great grade 3 condition with some good pure water ice at the top.

Hidden 04/Apr/13 2nd
Hidden 04/Apr/13 Lead
Gazlynn 04/Apr/13 2nd
Hidden 03/Apr/13 Solo
Pete23 01/Apr/13 AltLd
with Ashley
Hidden 01/Apr/13 AltLd O/S
JamesRoddie 31/Mar/13 Solo O/S

Quick solo at dawn before work. Good and straightforward conditions, easy for the grade just now.

Hidden 31/Mar/13 Lead
Jamie B 30/Mar/13 Lead

Leftwards variant at top adds value at III/IV

with Clients
Bob1984 30/Mar/13 AltLd

Good ice pitch to finish

with Andy, Alistair Macey
hydraulicwave 27/Mar/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 20/Mar/13 AltLd O/S
Col Kingshott 25/Feb/13 Lead O/S

Very thin in places.

mark12345 24/Feb/13 2nd
Gman 22/Feb/13 AltLd
with Jeremy Hart
Dino Dave 21/Feb/13 AltLd O/S
with Dad
martinh13 12/Feb/13 2nd
with Kenny
GlennWatson 12/Feb/13 Solo
PAJames 10/Feb/13 -


Hidden 09/Feb/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 09/Feb/13 2nd
Hidden 09/Feb/13 Lead O/S
010paw 09/Feb/13 Lead O/S

More good grade three!! Went up on more interesting ice at the top pitch to the left probably getting closer to grade 4! More miles under the belt.....

Roberttaylor 06/Feb/13 AltLd O/S

Moving together/belaying practice, did the route in 34 mins with the left finish at the top to get some steeper ice in. Probably only II if finishing right.

with Jacob Davies
Hidden 01/Feb/13 2nd O/S
Hidden ?/Feb/13 Lead
Hidden ?/Feb/13 -
Hidden ?/Feb/13 AltLd O/S
konacol 23/Jan/13 AltLd

Lots of fresh snow about but also some stonking ice(and a wee bit of cruddy stuff too).

with Paul Stewart, Gav Swinton
AndyDWilson 23/Jan/13 AltLd
chrisicles ?/Jan/13 2nd
Jacks20 ??/2013 AltLd
with various
oscaig 13/Dec/12 AltLd O/S

Solo'd the fist stages. I did the middle ice pitch and kim did long last pitch. Thin in the middle but do-able. Fun route through good scenery.

kim.mulji 13/Dec/12 AltLd O/S

Led top ice pitch to top! :-)

Lawrie Brand 02/Feb/12 Solo O/S

Avoided the lower thin looking icefall by a turfy buttress on the right and rejoined gully above this. Second icefall was pretty wet but some good chewy ice was found..

Hidden 02/Feb/12 AltLd O/S
gripped01 29/Dec/10 Lead
with Gilbert
Hidden 28/Dec/10 -
Hidden 27/Dec/10 Lead O/S
Sean Bell 08/Dec/10 AltLd O/S
with James Dunn
climberuk 05/Dec/10 AltLd O/S

Can hardly call it alt leads since Nina lead both of the 'real' pitches. Lean conditions. Found it hard.

with Nina
riven 04/Dec/10 AltLd O/S
oliverk 04/Dec/10 AltLd
with Joe
alan barnes 01/Dec/10 AltLd

not in great condition but was ok. lots of powdery snow around the corrie but was not too bad in gully.

with chris hig, luke
Hidden 01/Dec/10 AltLd
Derek Graham 30/Nov/10 AltLd
John Pickles 14/Mar/10 Lead rpt
with Work
Elsier 13/Mar/10 AltLd
with Stuart
Hidden 13/Mar/10 Solo O/S
carpguru 11/Mar/10 AltLd
John Pickles 09/Mar/10 Lead O/S
with Work
Hidden 07/Mar/10 2nd
Ian Jones 07/Mar/10 AltLd O/S

How does this get III? More like I.

with Tim Clarke
Hidden 07/Mar/10 AltLd
Phil Jennings 06/Mar/10 Solo O/S
Hidden 06/Mar/10 AltLd
JamieSparkes 06/Mar/10 AltLd rpt
masa-alpin 06/Mar/10 AltLd O/S

Soloed to the fork, then I lead P1(55m), Luke lead the rest in one pitch. The chandelier at the top was beautiful.

with P Luke
Stuart Macfarlane 06/Mar/10 AltLd O/S
with Jeanie
AndyL 06/Mar/10 Solo O/S

Left hand variation, just left of the cool ice cave.

andybuckley 06/Mar/10 AltLd

UKC doesn't seem to have a route for the ice wall right of Doctor's Dilemma, accessed by breaking out left from WG before the first ice step. Old SWC book lists this as Junior's Jaunt, which seems to be wrong. Anyway, it provided a nice couple of pitches at II/III, and more interesting than WG itself... but nothing to get really excited about.

with Tom Whipple
IceBun 06/Mar/10 AltLd

Soloed lower bit then took the fine ice on the left wall at the top

lucasp 06/Mar/10 AltLd O/S

I led 2nd pitch. First lead on ice.

with masa
MikeLeeds 03/Mar/10 AltLd

An option of some steep ice at the end that was more like IV on which I fell. An amazing looking ice brolley/cave at the top

with Keith W
Dave Searle ?/Mar/10 Lead
with gav
Hidden ?/Mar/10 AltLd
searla 28/Feb/10 TR
with Sarp
Hidden 23/Feb/10 AltLd O/S
NoelleG 23/Feb/10 AltLd
with Ed Chard (JG), Claire Molloy
Andy Moles 22/Feb/10 AltLd O/S

soloed up to final step where ferdia led a steeper alternative for addded interest

with Adam, Ferdia
Hidden 22/Feb/10 Solo O/S
ferdia 22/Feb/10 AltLd O/S

took the harder left hand alternative

with Adam Russell, Andy
ccrowle 21/Feb/10 AltLd O/S

Great, apart from being hit in the chest by a block of ice by a dumb Jagged fucking Globe client, teach them below you dicks

with magnus
rockamont 20/Feb/10 AltLd O/S
with AllyO
rcammack 20/Feb/10 AltLd O/S
Liam Ingram 20/Feb/10 AltLd O/S
JamieSparkes 20/Feb/10 Lead O/S

felt good on sharpened tools and took the lead on the crux pitch. pretty pleased!

allyrocke 20/Feb/10 AltLd O/S
with Robbie
Hidden 20/Feb/10 -
Hidden 20/Feb/10 AltLd
alan.rodger 20/Feb/10 AltLd
with merlin andrew
Hidden 19/Feb/10 Solo
Bokonon 17/Feb/10 AltLd O/S

The snow sections had large steps all the way up, making that part of the process very easy indeed, the middle ice section was nice, and the top ice section had multiple variations to add interest if one wished. A bit of snow falling (making the drive down Glen Orchy perhaps more dangerous than the climb) the crag was very busy (for midweek) but this route was all ours.

with Dave
smiler 17/Feb/10 AltLd
with Bokonon
LakesWinter 16/Feb/10 AltLd O/S

Phil did the ice pitches for his first grade III

with Phil B
philboy 16/Feb/10 AltLd
with matt g
malc 15/Feb/10 2nd O/S
with Andy and John
Hidden 13/Feb/10 -
Ice Spider 13/Feb/10 2nd
Bob.allan 13/Feb/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 09/Feb/10 Lead
cubehead 09/Feb/10 2nd

Fantastic ice formations across top of gully

Pat-H ?/Feb/10 Lead β
Mhairi G ?/Feb/10 2nd
with Patrick
Claire Molloy ?/Feb/10 AltLd
with Ed Chard JG, Noelle
crostant 31/Jan/10 Lead

Lower pitch banked out. First Icefall was getting a bit thinner, with a few holes, but still climbable. The top pitch was thick with good ice, with the odd patch of more fragile ice on the top of good ice.

with Gareth
Gazlynn 31/Jan/10 2nd

Climbed with Colin. 2nd pitch Ice a bit sketchy with holes. Great first winter climb

johannes 30/Jan/10 Lead O/S

Superb. Did the IV,4 top out variation through the steep ice on the left.

Nille 30/Jan/10 2nd O/S
abbeywall 24/Jan/10 AltLd
with K
Hidden 23/Jan/10 AltLd
Tom Last 11/Jan/10 AltLd O/S

Excellent fun - two good pitches. First grade 3, followed by an epic drive back to London.

with Darren
Hidden 10/Jan/10 AltLd
Hidden 09/Jan/10 Solo O/S
mikelaing ?/Jan/10 2nd
with Ian Whitehead
capstanfullstrength ??/2010 2nd O/S

first ice ascent

with Liz Outram
Hidden ??/2010 Lead
johnmctighe ??/2010 2nd

fell off on the first move! managed to get both picks in the same placement. Welcome to ice climbing!

PaulCunningham ??/2010 -
blakey ??/2010 AltLd
Hidden 26/Dec/09 2nd
allyrocke 23/Dec/09 2nd O/S
Billy Walker - Bad Seller 22/Dec/09 2nd rpt

martin, nice little easy route,nice icefall finish

Hidden 19/Dec/09 Lead
Claire Molloy ?/Feb/09 2nd
with Ed Chard JG, Noelle
NoelleG ?/Feb/09 Lead
alan moore ??/2005 Solo
French Erick 26/Dec/04 Solo
Hidden ?/Dec/04 Solo
seanyt ??/2000 AltLd
graeme gatherer ??/2000 -
niall_mac ?/Dec/96 AltLd
Andy Say 11/Feb/95 Lead
Hidden 01/Nov/94 -
Dave Musgrove Jnr 20/Feb/94 Solo
with Chris Ranner
Dave Kerr ?/Feb/91 Solo
with Phil Robinson
johnkeith ?/Feb/77 AltLd
with Gordon Niven
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