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Central Route* III

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[Andy on Central Route, 3 kb]85m, 2 pitches. No description has been contributed for this climb.

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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 107 logbooks, and on 3 wishlists.

Katex - 2nd O/S - 07/Apr/13 with Simon Edwards

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Apr/13

philboy - AltLd - 06/Apr/13 with matt g

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Apr/13

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Apr/13

georgedunton - Solo O/S - 02/Apr/13

Hidden - 02/Apr/13

Led 2nd pitch in 2 pitches as found big boulder for solid belay. Nothing touching III after first pitch which was the highlight.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - AltLd - 01/Apr/13 with Jurgen

Hidden - Lead - 01/Apr/13

kdalzell - 2nd - 01/Apr/13 with Liam Fleming

Glorious weather!
AJM - AltLd O/S - 31/Mar/13 with Sophie Wynne-Jones

Andy_B39 - AltLd rpt - 31/Mar/13 with James Davidson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/13

Had to climb together on one pith without belay, rope was not long enough to set up a belay station
friendzone1234 - 2nd O/S - 31/Mar/13 with simon thorley, matthew reynolds

Hidden - AltLd β - 30/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13

Andy_B39 - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13 with Ben Rigby

The_Boy_ODwyer - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13 with Colin Harvey

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Mar/13

Hexman - AltLd O/S - 29/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 29/Mar/13

steve.warrington - AltLd O/S - 29/Mar/13 with Dave Simpson, Nik Goile

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jan/13

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Jan/13

Was terrifying in the condition we found it in. Poor belays if the ice is cruddy.
Double Knee Bar - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/13 with Blanchie

Tomprusk - 2nd O/S - 24/Jan/13 with Dad

Backed of as it was a bit thin and let more experience partner lead
JamesWilliams - 2nd - 2013 with jamesA

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - Solo O/S - 24/Dec/10

Antony Mottershead - AltLd O/S - 22/Dec/10

1st welsh winter climb. Ice was a bit thin and gear run out but a good first route with Rich.
matty g - AltLd O/S - 22/Dec/10

Hidden - 21/Dec/10

joese7en - AltLd O/S - 09/Dec/10

mynyddresident - Lead - 07/Dec/10 with nige

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Dec/10

lovely route. Steve lead p1 on not so great ice but conditions improved after the first section and made for a great finish to the day. gear a bit sparse but not too bad.
gb83 - AltLd O/S - 07/Dec/10 with Steve Palmer

A good and worthwhile route, done in 2 40m+ pitches. No rock gear used at all, protection and belays entirely on screws so take plenty. Well worth a star.
wilkie14c - Lead O/S - 06/Dec/10 with Dave Clarke

inuklm - AltLd O/S - 05/Dec/10 with Dave Gent

chadrads - 2nd O/S - 05/Dec/10 with andy chapman

Backed off 1st pitch (crap ice) and Tim led it
Stone Muppet - 2nd O/S - 04/Dec/10 with tl

Thin, and thinner, bold for the grade today. very good route though. No meaningful gear for 55m
AB1965 - AltLd - 01/Dec/10 with Bob Johnson

bob johnson - AltLd - 01/Dec/10 with Al Borrett

Hidden - AltLd - Dec/10

Tim Sparrow - Solo - Dec/10

Hidden - 2nd - Dec/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Dec/10

& Jim and Greg. Nighttime ascent. Ice route in November! Good ice, gear somewhat psychological or imaginary. Started snowing quite heavily on the descent.
Cardi - AltLd O/S - 30/Nov/10 with Ruth

Phil Belcher - Lead O/S - 27/Feb/10 with tommy

Great lead by Phil, the route was in less than any sort of condition.
sasmojo - 2nd - 27/Feb/10 with Phil B, Tommy H

tscoobydoo - Feb/10 with phillip belcher

1philjones1 - AltLd - Feb/10 with Paul

Lead the easy bit on the last pitch
emlynroberts - 2nd - 14/Jan/10 with Nigel Milner

Sugary ice, Karl led first pitch, I led second, not much gear for whole of second pitch.
sleavesley - AltLd O/S - 13/Jan/10 with Karl

Lenny - AltLd O/S - 10/Jan/10 with Paul

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jan/10

First Welsh winter route. Some nice ice in parts, finished up the last pitch of Grecian 2000 which had a few tenuous mixed moves.
Morgan Woods - AltLd O/S - 10/Jan/10 with Gareth

Led 1st pitch
climbing_wiggy - AltLd O/S - 10/Jan/10 with Leon

tim newton - AltLd O/S - 09/Jan/10 with nathan paxton

Thanks to Ashley who lent me a belay device, I dropped it back at Ogwen Cottage YHA for you.
LardClimber - 2nd - 09/Jan/10 with Dave Williams

chrissloan84 - AltLd O/S - 09/Jan/10 with paul

Tim led the harder first pitch
NathanP - AltLd - 09/Jan/10 with Tim Newton

I led 1st pitch, Norm led 2nd.
Ian Andrews - AltLd O/S - 09/Jan/10 with Norman Clacher

Fun. We carried ropes and intended to solo to the start of the second pitch but just carried on...
Rampikino - Solo - 08/Jan/10 with Paul Cubbins

The Bad Cough - Solo O/S - 08/Jan/10 with Mat Dowsett

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Jan/10

theotherpetehill - Lead - 07/Jan/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 04/Jan/10

Rhys Jones - Solo - 04/Jan/10 with Andy Smith

Bram - Solo - 04/Jan/10

Led P2. Pretty scary stuff - very little gear.
Steve Hill - AltLd O/S - 03/Jan/10 with Jim Slater

Nervy climb as gear none existent. Ice not thick enough for decent ice screws.
Jim Slater - AltLd O/S - 03/Jan/10 with Steve Hill

groovy_nut - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10 with Patrick

malc - 2nd - 02/Jan/10 with Paul S

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10

Rob84 - AltLd O/S - 01/Jan/10 with Al Pickard & Mike Dudley

jimbonfire - Solo - Jan/10

r_o_b_h2 - Lead O/S - Jan/10 with steve tree

BenTiffin - Jan/10 with Gareth Field, Andy Bissell

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2010

uncontrollable - Lead O/S - 31/Dec/09 with Emma, Alan B

Monkey_Alan - 2nd - 31/Dec/09 with Emma Horsey, Frodo Stickel

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Feb/09

Dave Rumney - 08/Feb/09 with Phil Moore

the ice was a bit soft in places
michael burrows - Lead O/S - 07/Feb/09 with mike doyle

nickcanute - AltLd - 07/Feb/09 with tim parkinson

devilman - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/09

Awful ice, had to abseil off due my partner getting ill. If anyone finds a red and yellow sling, 2 screwgates and a cordlette i'd be very grateful if they could send them back my way.
JDSwain - Lead O/S - 05/Feb/09 with Rich Cannel

Hidden - Lead O/S - Feb/09

2nd pitch
barni - AltLd O/S - 06/Jan/09 with Northern

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Jan/09

stevebarratt - AltLd O/S - 05/Jan/09 with Rob Bryniarski

FrankW - Solo O/S - 04/Jan/09 with None

mikelaing - AltLd - Jan/09 with Ian Whitehead

Jillybean - AltLd - Jan/09 with Matt

Hidden - 2007

Led 2nd pitch, full 50m no runners but neve and ice were good. Got a sling on LHS on exit to ramp area at top. First pitch poor ice.
TimPerkin - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/06 with Colin Beechey

Me 1st pitch and Gary 2nd pitch
Mark A Humphries - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/06 with gary wood

Howard J - AltLd - 05/Mar/05 with John Waterhouse

Tim W - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/05 with Myles Jordan

Hidden - Lead - Mar/05

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Feb/04

Hidden - AltLd - 2002

Hidden - Lead - 18/Feb/78

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Feb/78

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Stuart Hurworth, Ralfy, jandyd05

Voting
Total votes cast 36
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IV0 of 20
easy IV1 of 20
hard III3 of 20
III14 of 20
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Style of ascent

Soloed10 of 107 (9.3%)
Lead17 of 107 (15.9%)
Followed15 of 107 (14.0%)
Alt Leads58 of 107 (54.2%)
Unknown7 of 107 (6.5%)

'Climbed'44 of 107 (41.1%)
clean O/S60 of 107 (56.1%)
clean β1 of 107 (0.9%)
clean rpt2 of 107 (1.9%)