2 pitches. Safe and strenuous. The obvious slanting crack is climbed by laybacking or finger jamming.
Pitch 2 is the corner crack right of the upper bay.

D. Cuthbertson, M. Hamilton 1977

Ticklists: Cracks And Corners To Greatness.

Fultonius 28/Sep Lead β

Kind of retro-amnesic flonsight/retropoint. Oh yeah. Never E2.5 Gary, Never, never, never.

with Ryan
bnewman 25/Sep Lead dnf

Hesitated on the last hard move and fell off. Disappointing.

with Ben
JonnoP 22/Aug Lead dnf
with Emily, Rick H
soph 19/Jun 2nd O/S
Hidden 17/May AltLd
Anna_wells 17/May Lead
Timothy Miller 16/May Lead O/S
donwito 25/Apr Lead RP

Excellent well protected climb. Done in one pitch.

with Dad
danimal88 22/Mar Lead β

tried a few years ago with the giff and whistler. wanted it a bi t more this time. thought the top pitch was exceptional value at 5a... heel hook?

with Adrian Croften
Ross Kirkland 10/Nov/14 Lead O/S

hard route nothing for feet

with Henward
tom russell 13/Jul/14 Lead RP
with sean, mike
French Erick 21/Jun/14 Lead RP

Fell off from the top of crack on the O/S (end on the final finger lock) to level with the stone arch! Saved it for years =(

Captain Solo 21/Jun/14 2nd

With some gentle persuasion from a tight rope!

with Erick
Adam Lincoln 04/May/14 Lead O/S

Easy sinker jams. Will be a tad harder when the plate of rock at start comes out.

with Iain Small
Macleod 20/Apr/14 -
Macleod 20/Apr/14 -
Uisdean hawthorn 20/Apr/14 2nd
with Darren
dwisniewski 19/Apr/14 Lead dog

Thanks to some top tips and thugging around in the crack I am now learning how to jam.

with Uisdean
Hidden 23/Nov/13 2nd
samwillo 23/Nov/13 Lead

2nd go gu.

richiebongo 14/Aug/13 Lead dog

It didn't look too bad for a warm-up but once on it i realised too late what a beast it is, should of taken a hint from the name.

with will roper, topher
Dr Toph 14/Aug/13 2nd rpt
with Richard
salix 13/Aug/13 2nd dog

Hard! might be able to lead it, but need to have it all figured out before hand. tape helped.

with Rich
mot1 10/Aug/13 2nd dog
with Neale
Hidden 10/Aug/13 Lead dog
Apharri 10/May/13 Lead O/S

Unfortunately 'rat race' was soaked so had to settle for this. Looks easy from ground but pretty nails!

with Dave Wharton
robertmichaeladams 20/Apr/13 Lead dog

felt pretty desperate, sure it would go clean if I ever wanted to do it again - which I don't

with Sam
Antd 06/Apr/13 2nd
with Dominic Jeff, Al Macleod
Macleod 06/Apr/13 Lead
with ronan, carolyn, anthony, dominic
captain ??/2013 -
Neil Adams 29/Sep/12 Lead rpt

Finally. Now I never need to try this again...

andyinglis 29/Sep/12 Lead dog


stuart34 23/Aug/12 Lead dnf
stuart34 23/Aug/12 2nd
Lasma 07/Jul/12 2nd dog
with Lukas Solanka
Rich Kirby 04/Jun/12 AltLd O/S

Led crux

with Manbeast
Hidden 19/May/12 Lead O/S
Vicki M 16/May/12 Lead β
with Alasdiar Robb
Dr Toph 12/May/12 Lead RP

In one pitch. Glad to see that leaving it for a couple of years helped! Still packs a punch, but good handjams help.

with Seb
stugreen75 24/Mar/12 AltLd O/S

Got spanked on the first pitch on the lead several times from the final moves and took a few exciting lobs. Followed Dom up eventually and did the second pitch. Need to learn how to jam....brutal!

IceBun 25/Feb/12 Lead RP
with dave o
gforce 15/May/11 Lead β

With some handy beta from my in situ photographer. Nae bother. Oh, ok, maybe a little bit.

with Dave C
Andy Moles 17/Apr/11 Lead dog

Fell off twice, brutal!

The Big Sender ?/Apr/11 2nd dog
MonkeyDawson 31/Oct/10 AltLd dog

First pitch definitely worth 6a!

with Simon Smith
Hidden 14/Oct/10 2nd dog
Hidden 27/Aug/10 Lead
KeithAlexander 25/Jul/10 Lead dnf

steeper than it looks :)

el cholo 03/Jul/10 Lead dog
with carlos
jev 03/Jul/10 2nd dog

only P1

with Carlos, Alejandro
BrettB 24/Jun/10 Lead β
westaway 15/May/10 Lead O/S
dj_brigham05 12/May/10 2nd O/S
Hidden 21/Apr/10 Lead dog
Greg Boswell 07/Apr/10 Lead RP
with Andrew Innes, Mhairi Thorburn
henwardian ??/2010 Lead dog

Short, well protected but god damn it packs a punch. I've seconded it twice since and still not managed to do it without falling!

Ri ??/2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/Aug/09 Lead RP
Ally Baba 17/May/09 Lead RP
with Gav Swinton
Chad123 10/May/09 AltLd dog

Not the best choice for a warm down route! Nice technical crack climbing with perfect gear...

with James Humble
sheppy 02/May/09 Lead rpt

Oh yes. It hasnt got any nicer in the past 20 years but at least the grade now makes it worth fighting for

with simon jenkins
mikecopp 22/Apr/09 Lead O/S
with Ian B
willackers 21/Mar/09 Lead O/S

Found it ok, pumpy placing the last bit of gear, another fine route.

with Ali, Stu Brown, James
Stewart B 21/Mar/09 2nd β
with Will Atkinson
Hidden 21/Mar/09 Lead RP
Hidden 21/Mar/09 2nd
Dangerous Dave 15/Mar/09 Lead dog

Had one rest not bad for this route

with Dave O
Anna_wells 01/Nov/08 2nd
with pete
whistler 31/Oct/08 Lead dog

took about a million rests.. Maybe I need to learn to jam... Great route though.

with Anna
Fultonius 16/Aug/08 Lead dog

Still bloody hard, one of these days I'll get it!

Neil Adams 16/Aug/08 AltLd dog

Climber up & down the first section a few times, finally committed then fell off just above the crux on 1st pitch. Had another go with similar results. Ally dogged his way up it, then I dogged my way up it seconding. I lead the second pitch OK.

with Ally F
R0bbie 18/Jun/08 TR

Amazing climb one day i hope to lead this.

Hidden ?/Jun/08 -
mshorter 25/May/08 Lead β
sparkass ?/May/08 Lead G/U
Dougie Harvey 11/Sep/07 Lead dnf
with James Cruikshank
pete dd ?/Jun/07 Lead RP


with Iain Swan
figfour ??/2007 Lead
a_hein ??/2007 Lead dog
ali_robb ?/Sep/06 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2004 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/02 Lead
greenroom ??/2000 Lead O/S
graeme gatherer ??/2000 -
Cassidy ??/1996 Lead RP
with David Cassidy
Hidden ?/Jan/95 Lead RP
Roy Stuart ??/1994 Lead O/S


with Alex Thomas
AC1 ??/1992 -

Still one of my favourite routes anywhere.

Steve Crowe 16/Jun/91 Lead O/S
with KM
Hidden ?/Oct/88 Lead
uphillnow ?/Jun/88 AltLd

john did 5c pitch

with john stanger
Hamish Leslie ??/1987 Lead O/S
mark mcgowan01 ??/1985 -
Bruce Kerr 15/Apr/83 Lead
with Jude Richardson
redjerry ?/Oct/78 Lead

second E1

with Jim Melrose
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