Rockfax Description
22m. Quite high in the grade. An indifferent start leads to a grand finale. Climb rightwards to the ledge then move back left to access the upper wall. Climb this steeply, trending left then right, with superb positions throughout. Photo on page 340. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
The upper wall is superb and steep. Gear is good but the groove keeps you thinking.

Klingon 01/Nov Lead
with Andy
MBarraclough 27/Sep Lead O/S
Hidden 06/Sep Lead rpt
Hidden 23/Aug 2nd rpt
Maria Bechaalani 23/Aug Lead
with Dougie
sleeplessjb 01/Aug Lead O/S
with John
Mark Bull 24/Jul Lead rpt
with Mike
Hidden 16/Jul Lead dnf
garyb1442 12/Jul 2nd
Adamski1986 12/Jul Lead
with SJ
Klingon 11/Jul 2nd
with Clyde
waynem1985 21/Jun Lead O/S
EBailey 06/Jun Solo O/S
mishabruml 06/Jun Lead O/S

This felt harder than it should have but maybe thats because I was knackered after romping around the woods with a full rack, 2 ropes, bouldering mat and a Ewan trying to find out way from Kyloe in to Kyloe out without a phone, map or guidebook... we need a club llama...!

with Tim Gadzic, Lise
RUDIN.J.D.H 03/Jun Lead O/S
with Sam Rudin
Hidden 30/May 2nd
Hidden 25/May 2nd O/S
Hidden 23/May Lead O/S
Hidden 23/May 2nd
joem 17/May Lead O/S
ClareM.123 17/May 2nd O/S

Joes lead - glad it wasn't me!!

calum404 17/May 2nd O/S
with Joe McCarty, Clare McCarty
RUDIN.J.D.H 04/May Lead O/S

Great Route, good gear, felt steep throughout the top-section, but good gear and good holds throughout.

peterhubbard 04/May 2nd
Hidden 02/May 2nd
wnlwy 02/May Lead
Alex Mason 07/Apr Solo O/S
with Jemma Powell
paul79 05/Apr Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Apr TR O/S
Luci 22/Mar Lead
with Ali, Arran Wat
Hidden 20/Mar Solo O/S
stevorobs3 28/Feb Lead O/S
with Younghwa, Szymon
Rollo Rolo 28/Feb 2nd
with Younghwa, Steve Robinson
beagle-ears 08/Feb 2nd
potnoodle13 08/Feb Lead
el diablo 23/Nov/14 2nd
with Nick Bowen, Jimbo
Hidden 23/Nov/14 2nd
potnoodle13 23/Nov/14 Lead O/S
mike25350 23/Nov/14 2nd O/S
beagle-ears 23/Nov/14 2nd
tobydunford 31/Oct/14 Lead O/S
with Kirsty Kerr
fall-line 26/Oct/14 Lead O/S
with The General
ajt68 26/Oct/14 2nd O/S
jev 18/Oct/14 Lead O/S
with HWUMC
MightyStew 14/Sep/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Aug/14 Lead O/S
AlbieWat 04/Aug/14 Lead β
FraserMcClennan ?/Aug/14 Lead O/S
Gabe Oliver 03/Jul/14 Lead O/S


dakidunn 03/Jul/14 2nd
jamesgr87 03/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/Jun/14 Lead O/S
peterhubbard 26/May/14 2nd
with Conrad
Elsier 17/May/14 Lead O/S
with Adrian
rgd1977 16/May/14 Lead rpt
cpforbes 11/May/14 Lead O/S
with Chris Down
Hidden 17/Apr/14 2nd
Hidden 15/Apr/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 15/Apr/14 2nd O/S
Michael Haywood 01/Apr/14 Lead
with George Miligan
David Stevens 23/Mar/14 Lead
with Lauren Anderson, Matthew Anderson
Liam Ingram 23/Mar/14 Lead O/S
with Paige Jensen, Nick Bryan
planetmarshall 16/Mar/14 Lead
Hidden 16/Mar/14 2nd rpt
Matt Poole 15/Mar/14 Lead O/S
with Thomas Heaton
James90 08/Mar/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 22/Feb/14 2nd
Adamski1986 16/Feb/14 Lead
stub1990 16/Feb/14 2nd
with Adam Gregg
Jordangask 03/Nov/13 2nd
Hidden 03/Nov/13 Lead
Hidden 08/Oct/13 Lead O/S
robertmichaeladams 21/Sep/13 2nd
with Mike, Andi
mike_tamanawis 21/Sep/13 Lead β
with Rob A, Andreas B
Calum Wadsworth 17/Sep/13 Lead O/S
with Emma
adamsandy1 04/Sep/13 2nd O/S

really tricky middle section but great climb

MDowson 30/Aug/13 2nd O/S
with Jonathon Powell
jonnysims 21/Jul/13 Lead
Hidden 06/Jul/13 2nd O/S
Hidden 30/Jun/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 30/Jun/13 2nd O/S
Hidden 30/Jun/13 2nd O/S
08nbrierley 25/Jun/13 2nd O/S
watson.b 25/Jun/13 Lead O/S
with nicky
b-mouse ?/Jun/13 2nd
alexmcmillan 28/May/13 Lead O/S
NaomiHart 26/May/13 2nd O/S
with Nige
lyneux 12/May/13 2nd O/S
with Ian Rickerby
annep11 04/May/13 Lead O/S
with Suzy
Roberttaylor 04/May/13 Solo O/S
Fiona Reid 20/Apr/13 Lead rpt
with Mike, Alison
Alpenglow 20/Apr/13 Lead O/S

Definitely not VS. Steep at the top but good holds and well protected (where it needs to be)

with Owen
Mike-W-99 20/Apr/13 2nd
abbeywall 20/Apr/13 2nd
with Mike, Fiona
Hidden 20/Apr/13 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Apr/13 Lead O/S
kyaizawa 18/Nov/12 2nd O/S
lcullum7 18/Nov/12 2nd O/S
Hidden 18/Nov/12 Lead
Hidden 08/Nov/12 2nd O/S
Hidden 15/Sep/12 2nd
Adrianw 02/Sep/12 Lead rpt
with Elliott Wilson, Natalie Wilson
Klingon 26/Aug/12 2nd
with Nimble
David Cowley 23/Aug/12 Lead rpt

No way is this a VS 4c. Theres gear galore. A sustained and steep 4b top section, Cracking route!

NeilJC60 29/Jul/12 2nd O/S

Looked at the clouds and decided to go for it and see what happened. Brian led up to the shelf which looked a bit bold as he didn't put any gear in until he was close to the shelf although it proved not too bad as the ledge was a easy to walk along. However, just as the gear was in and clipped it started to rain so Brian sheltered close in to the wall on the shelf and I hurried under the overhang by the start. Quite easy up to the shelf so cant't comment on teh whole route but looked good. We walked off to the right as it was very slipery after the rain.

with Brian Finlayson
Pat-H 28/Jul/12 Lead O/S
with mhairi
Mhairi G 28/Jul/12 2nd O/S
with Patrick
Ab Wilson 27/Jul/12 Lead O/S

Well I was quite pleased with myself for leading this. Middle section is where the fun is. I could give all sorts of hints but I'm not going to. It felt like VS while I was trying to place gear on the steep section but really it's only hard severe. Definitely worth at least two stars.

with Georgina Turnbull
Tim Rodgers 06/Jul/12 Lead
with Rod Molyneux, Brendan Lavery
Klingon 01/Jul/12 Lead
with Nimble
Mark D 30/Jun/12 Lead O/S

Good, solid climb, nice rewarding top section. Sensible ropework means no rope drag. Punters may find it tricky.

with Andrew Duggan
sarah hawker 15/Apr/12 Lead O/S
Hewitt 14/Apr/12 2nd O/S
David Cowley 14/Apr/12 Lead O/S
Madden 25/Mar/12 Lead dnf

Sandy, heinous, nasty climbing. Harder than it ought to be at an HS, pretty unrewarding at that. Dunno if it was just because i'm a punter, but the rope drag was appalling at the top.

with Connall Brown
barni 24/Mar/12 -
with Ami
Hidden 22/Mar/12 Solo
crookachili 21/Mar/12 Lead
radioshed 21/Mar/12 2nd rpt
David Stevens 21/Mar/12 2nd O/S
with Matt Craig, Reuben Crook
Steve Lenartowicz 11/Mar/12 Lead
with Clare
petegunn 11/Mar/12 Lead
with Tom, Eric, Davina
Hidden 11/Mar/12 2nd O/S
georgedunton 10/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/Feb/12 Lead O/S
mikecollins 13/Feb/12 Lead O/S
with Laura D
Hidden 17/Jan/12 Lead
Hidden 17/Jan/12 2nd
R Spisser 15/Jan/12 Lead O/S
oliverk 20/Nov/11 Lead
with Marty
sergio46 20/Nov/11 Lead O/S

climbed second part from ledge to top.

with Walter
Hidden 20/Nov/11 Lead O/S
xusa 31/Oct/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 22/Oct/11 Lead O/S
Stuart Macfarlane 15/Oct/11 2nd

Onsight lead for Jeanie.

with Jeanie
Macleod 08/Oct/11 Lead O/S
with lucas
Hidden 18/Sep/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 06/Sep/11 Lead O/S
samoliver01 31/Aug/11 Lead O/S
mav 29/Aug/11 2nd
with Ashley
Snap 30/Jul/11 2nd rpt
with Rab
Hidden 30/Jul/11 Lead rpt
Klingon 08/Jul/11 Lead rpt
with Jack
Hidden 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S
RossT 01/Jul/11 2nd
with Chris
Hidden 26/Jun/11 Lead O/S
machars 26/Jun/11 2nd
burto 15/Jun/11 Lead rpt
with ash, calum
Hidden 04/Jun/11 Lead O/S
timmsy 02/Jun/11 2nd
David_Gledson 02/Jun/11 Lead

Description in the guide was too vague. Ended up doing alot of wondering around to find the route, nice moves once found though.

Hidden ?/Jun/11 Lead β
eliseb 21/May/11 2nd dog
with Ian
mr spoon 21/May/11 Lead
alisterrobbird 25/Apr/11 2nd O/S
David Bird 25/Apr/11 Lead O/S
with AliB
Thoms6974 23/Apr/11 Lead O/S

Cracking top half

with Matt
radioshed 23/Apr/11 2nd O/S
with andy t
Hidden 22/Apr/11 Lead O/S
andrew sandercock 07/Apr/11 2nd O/S
with Dave Sandercock
Hidden 02/Apr/11 Lead
jonnie3430 02/Apr/11 Solo O/S
with Matt, Carol
Carol Goodall 02/Apr/11 Lead O/S

Nice wee climb, although route description a little unclear so I took most aesthetically pleasing and sensible route.

with Matt Dooner
Andy Moles 07/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Andes ??/2011 -
lisafer ??/2011 -
arrang ??/2011 Lead
Anthony Dixon 30/Aug/10 Lead
Hidden 01/Aug/10 Lead
Hidden 01/Aug/10 -
ccraigg22 28/Jul/10 Lead O/S
pmurdy 28/Jul/10 2nd O/S
akhutton88 26/Jul/10 2nd


rgd1977 23/Jul/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 03/Jul/10 -
Adrianw 30/Jun/10 2nd
with Neil Cranston
Peter White 30/Jun/10 2nd O/S
Klingon 24/Jun/10 Lead
Hidden 22/Jun/10 2nd O/S
hobblingfool 19/Jun/10 Lead O/S
rnotman67 18/Jun/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/Jun/10 Lead
steev 23/May/10 Lead O/S
with Gaz
Fiona Reid 22/May/10 2nd
with Mike
Mike-W-99 22/May/10 Lead
with Fiona
clairepoppett 15/May/10 Lead O/S
with Jim Gaffney
Jim Gaffney 15/May/10 2nd
cat22 09/May/10 Lead O/S
with Mike
sneaks 08/May/10 Lead rpt
daWalt 02/May/10 Lead O/S


with Lisa
Hidden 24/Apr/10 2nd
cherad 22/Apr/10 Lead O/S
with Kim Martin
Hidden 13/Apr/10 2nd
Hidden 13/Apr/10 -
stuaart 10/Apr/10 Lead rpt
with Neil Redgrave
iceicebaby 08/Apr/10 Lead β

My second ever 4c lead. Overall, I thought it would have been more aptly graded VS 4b. Quite sustained, but I can't pinpoint the 4c-er.

Em66 08/Apr/10 Lead
with Mat
Snap 28/Mar/10 Lead O/S
with Matt
jimstanton 17/Mar/10 Lead
with Leo
JamieSparkes 03/Mar/10 2nd O/S

seemed more like VS to me

scott gibson ??/2010 -
carlh ??/2010 -
ewan i ??/2010 Lead
Hidden 25/Oct/09 Lead
lucasp 04/Oct/09 Lead O/S
with simon lambert
chrism225 27/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with polly, dave
andybroadway 26/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with Martin Fitzsimons
LittleLuka 25/Sep/09 2nd dnf

Partner belayed from the ledge with the heather as the higher section looked very intimidating.

with Pauline
Hidden 25/Sep/09 Lead dnf
robertmichaeladams 19/Sep/09 2nd
with Mel
MelH 19/Sep/09 Lead O/S

first part of the climb is easy but the second part definately felt like a VS

tomdude 19/Sep/09 2nd rpt
with andy ventham
coral21 31/Aug/09 2nd
with Steve, Tom
stimpey 31/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with Tom, Cas
Timpy1584 31/Aug/09 2nd
with Caz, Steve
barney800 30/Aug/09 Lead O/S

Good value for HS. Steep and itimidating, the holds are all there but didn't find the protection great on the (easier) first section.

with Katherine Shaw
davie.p. 21/Aug/09 2nd
with AlanR
alanramsay 21/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with davie.p.
Mrs Weasel 08/Aug/09 2nd
JiveWeasel 08/Aug/09 Lead
stukent 07/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with Steven Walker
Hay ?/Aug/09 Lead rpt
with Lewis
stoat 19/Jul/09 Lead
phillipjohnson 20/Jun/09 2nd
Ben1983 24/May/09 Solo O/S
French Erick 09/May/09 Solo O/S
stuaart 09/May/09 2nd O/S
dave o 01/May/09 Lead O/S
with Julia H
Hidden 01/May/09 2nd O/S
Hidden 17/Mar/09 Lead O/S
ShelleyRhodes 17/Mar/09 2nd
Hidden 14/Mar/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Jan/09 2nd O/S
burto 21/Jan/09 Lead rpt
with ducky
Hidden ?/Jan/09 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2009 Lead O/S
Phill_ Thompson ??/2009 Lead
jonny taylor 30/Nov/08 2nd
with Jamie
Hidden 30/Nov/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 13/Jul/08 2nd O/S
duzinga 21/Jun/08 Lead O/S

great climb. good moves on brilliant protection.

with Chuck and Ewan
Hidden 08/Jun/08 Lead O/S
Ian Jones 24/May/08 Lead O/S
with Claire and Christian Svenson
BelleVedere 20/Apr/08 2nd

Mike took the direct start up the overhang and then the direct finish not up the groove - wondered why it felt bloody hard for HS - i came back down and went the more amicable way.

with Mike Lauder
Chris the Tall 19/Apr/08 Lead O/S
with Mike P, Simon J
snowy owl 29/Mar/08 Lead
with Michael Orr
Hidden 01/Mar/08 Solo O/S
mungojerry82 10/Feb/08 2nd O/S
with Jd
jonny taylor 20/Jan/08 Lead O/S
with Chris S
Hidden 19/Jan/08 2nd
Fiona Reid 20/Oct/07 2nd
with Mike
Mike-W-99 20/Oct/07 Lead
with Fiona
Fiona Reid 22/Sep/07 Lead O/S
with Mike
Mike-W-99 22/Sep/07 2nd
with Fiona
Rog Wilko 15/Sep/07 Lead
with Debbie Wilkinson
victim of mathematics 26/Aug/07 2nd O/S
crossdressingrodney 26/Aug/07 Lead O/S
Colin Matheson 15/Jul/07 Lead

Poor gear till the very last move

with Charlie Fisher
Hidden 14/Jul/07 2nd
Hidden 09/Jul/07 Solo O/S
andyandy 28/May/07 Lead
with Phil
gaz.marshall 14/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with Jones
JLS 08/Apr/07 2nd rpt
with Gavin R.
Hidden 01/Apr/07 -
whispering nic ??/2007 Solo
beegsyboy 30/Sep/06 Lead O/S

Definite VS. Didn't like the traverse left along the heather ledge. Could barely hold on by the end!!

with Sandy
Sankey 27/Aug/06 Lead O/S
with Luke
Piglet ?/Aug/06 Solo O/S
Hidden 27/Aug/05 AltLd
Hidden 25/May/05 2nd
Gustav ??/2005 Lead O/S
with Tom
Topsy Turvy ??/2005 Lead O/S
with Dan Hattle
barney_edin 22/Nov/04 -
Hidden ?/Oct/04 2nd
BelleVedere 27/Jun/04 2nd
Stuart Macfarlane 17/Apr/04 Lead O/S
with Helen
Hidden 17/Apr/04 2nd
Hidden ?/Sep/03 Lead O/S
colin milton 25/Aug/03 Lead
with simon murphy
Hidden 19/Apr/03 Lead
IanMcC 19/Apr/03 2nd
Roget ?/Aug/02 Solo rpt
with jim
Hidden 10/Apr/02 2nd
Climbster 23/Sep/01 Lead O/S
gypsy3006 ??/2000 Lead
Hidden ??/2000 Lead O/S
Trobbo 17/Mar/98 Solo
Richard Alderton 18/Feb/98 2nd
with Smith
John Pickles ??/1998 Lead O/S
Ritchyrich82 14/Sep/97 Lead O/S
stuart100 ?/Jul/96 Lead O/S
with Claire Graham
greenroom ??/1996 Lead O/S
Tom V ?/Jun/95 -
Dave Musgrove 19/Mar/93 Solo
with David
uphillnow ?/Aug/92 -
with Margaret Smith
Marti999 ??/1992 Lead
Hidden ?/Nov/91 Lead
Hidden 11/Aug/91 Lead O/S
Russell Lovett 29/Apr/91 Solo rpt
with alone
malc 07/Oct/90 Lead
Steve Crowe 16/Sep/90 2nd O/S
with KM
Roget ?/Aug/89 2nd O/S
with chris jones, jim
Hidden ??/1989 -
Russell Lovett 11/Aug/85 Lead O/S
with cannot remember.
telemark ??/1980 -
Hidden ??/1980 -
andybirtwistle ??/1980 -
Paula Hamilton-Gibson ??/1974 -
with Will Walker
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