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Cloister Wall** HS 4c

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[Cloister Wall HS 4c**, 2 kb]Quite high in the grade. An indifferent start leads to a grand finale. Climb rightwards to the ledge then move back left to access the upper wall. Climb this steeply, trending left then right, with superb positions throughout. Photo on page 340. © ROCKFAX
The upper wall is superb and steep. Gear is good but the groove keeps you thinking.

Photo: Cloister Wall HS 4c** © digby
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This climb is in 250 logbooks, and on 8 wishlists.

riff156 - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/14 with Jo Smith

AlbieWat - Lead β - 04/Aug/14

warmup
Gabe Oliver - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/14

dakidunn - 2nd - 03/Jul/14 with Gabe Oliver

jamesgr87 - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/14

peterhubbard - 2nd - 26/May/14 with Conrad

Elsier - Lead O/S - 17/May/14 with Adrian

rgd1977 - Lead rpt - 16/May/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/May/14

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/14

Michael Haywood - Lead - 01/Apr/14 with George Miligan

David Stevens - Lead - 23/Mar/14 with Lauren Anderson, Matthew Anderson

Liam Ingram - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/14 with Paige Jensen, Nick Bryan

planetmarshall - Lead - 16/Mar/14 with Christopher Douglas

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 16/Mar/14

Matt Poole - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/14 with Thomas Heaton

James90 - Lead O/S - 08/Mar/14

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Feb/14

Adamski1986 - Lead - 16/Feb/14 with Stuart Bennett

stub1990 - 2nd - 16/Feb/14 with Adam Gregg

Jordangask - 2nd - 03/Nov/13 with Simon Marr

Hidden - Lead - 03/Nov/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/13

robertmichaeladams - 2nd - 21/Sep/13 with Mike, Andi

mike_tamanawis - Lead β - 21/Sep/13 with Rob A, Andreas B

Calum Wadsworth - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/13 with Emma

really tricky middle section but great climb
adamsandy1 - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/13

MDowson - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/13 with Jonathon Powell

jonnysims - Lead - 21/Jul/13 with Brian Pasco

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/13

08nbrierley - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/13 with ben watson

watson.b - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/13 with nicky

b-mouse - 2nd - Jun/13

alexmcmillan - Lead O/S - 28/May/13 with Max Scherer

NaomiHart - 2nd O/S - 26/May/13 with Nige

lyneux - 2nd O/S - 12/May/13 with Ian Rickerby

annep11 - Lead O/S - 04/May/13 with Suzy

Roberttaylor - Solo O/S - 04/May/13

Fiona Reid - Lead rpt - 20/Apr/13 with Mike, Alison

Definitely not VS. Steep at the top but good holds and well protected (where it needs to be)
blackreaver - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Owen

Mike_Watson_99 - 2nd - 20/Apr/13 with abbeywall, Fiona

abbeywall - 2nd - 20/Apr/13 with Mike, Fiona

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/13

kyaizawa - 2nd O/S - 18/Nov/12 with Simon Smith, Luke Cullum

lcullum7 - 2nd O/S - 18/Nov/12 with Simon Smith, Ky Aizawa

Hidden - Lead - 18/Nov/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Nov/12

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Sep/12

Adrianw - Lead rpt - 02/Sep/12 with Elliott Wilson, Natalie Wilson

Klingon - 2nd - 26/Aug/12 with Nimble

No way is this a VS 4c. Theres gear galore. A sustained and steep 4b top section, Cracking route!
David Cowley - Lead rpt - 23/Aug/12

Looked at the clouds and decided to go for it and see what happened. Brian led up to the shelf which looked a bit bold as he didn't put any gear in until he was close to the shelf although it proved not too bad as the ledge was a easy to walk along. However, just as the gear was in and clipped it started to rain so Brian sheltered close in to the wall on the shelf and I hurried under the overhang by the start. Quite easy up to the shelf so cant't comment on teh whole route but looked good. We walked off to the right as it was very slipery after the rain.
NeilJC60 - 2nd O/S - 29/Jul/12 with Brian Finlayson

Pat-H - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/12 with mhairi

Mhairi G - 2nd O/S - 28/Jul/12 with Patrick

Well I was quite pleased with myself for leading this. Middle section is where the fun is. I could give all sorts of hints but I'm not going to. It felt like VS while I was trying to place gear on the steep section but really it's only hard severe. Definitely worth at least two stars.
Ab Wilson - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/12 with Georgina Turnbull

Tim Rodgers - Lead - 06/Jul/12 with Rod Molyneux, Brendan Lavery

Klingon - Lead - 01/Jul/12 with Nimble

Good, solid climb, nice rewarding top section. Sensible ropework means no rope drag. Punters may find it tricky.
Mark D - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/12 with Andrew Duggan

sarah hawker - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/12 with Ed (Malta), Neil Morbey

Hewitt - 2nd O/S - 14/Apr/12

David Cowley - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/12

Sandy, heinous, nasty climbing. Harder than it ought to be at an HS, pretty unrewarding at that. Dunno if it was just because i'm a punter, but the rope drag was appalling at the top.
Madden - Lead dnf - 25/Mar/12 with Connall Brown

barni - 24/Mar/12 with Ami

Craig McMahon - Solo - 22/Mar/12

crookachili - Lead - 21/Mar/12 with Matt Craig, Dave Stevens

radioshed - 2nd rpt - 21/Mar/12

David Stevens - 2nd O/S - 21/Mar/12 with Matt Craig, Reuben Crook

Steve Lenartowicz - Lead - 11/Mar/12 with Clare

petegunn - Lead - 11/Mar/12 with Tom, Eric, Davina

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Mar/12

georgedunton - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Feb/12

mikecollins - Lead O/S - 13/Feb/12 with Laura D

Hidden - Lead - 17/Jan/12

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Jan/12

R Spisser - Lead O/S - 15/Jan/12 with Gemma Gwynne Stevenson

oliverk - Lead - 20/Nov/11 with Marty

climbed second part from ledge to top.
sergio46 - Lead O/S - 20/Nov/11 with Walter

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Nov/11

xusa - 2nd O/S - 31/Oct/11 with Gareth Borthwick

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Oct/11

Onsight lead for Jeanie.
Stuart Macfarlane - 2nd - 15/Oct/11 with Jeanie

Macleod - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/11 with lucas

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Sep/11

samoliver01 - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/11

mav - 2nd - 29/Aug/11 with Ashley

Snap - 2nd rpt - 30/Jul/11 with Rab

Hidden - Lead rpt - 30/Jul/11

Klingon - Lead rpt - 08/Jul/11 with Jack

Chris wilson - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Ross, Allan

RossT - 2nd - 01/Jul/11 with Chris

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11

machars - 2nd - 26/Jun/11 with Bjorn Verduijn

burto - Lead rpt - 15/Jun/11 with ash, calum

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11

timmsy - 2nd - 02/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead - 02/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead β - Jun/11

eliseb - 2nd dog - 21/May/11 with Ian

mr spoon - Lead - 21/May/11

alisterrobbird - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/11

David Bird - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11 with AliB

Cracking top half
Thoms6974 - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/11 with Matt

radioshed - 2nd O/S - 23/Apr/11 with andy t

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/11

andrew sandercock - 2nd O/S - 07/Apr/11 with Dave Sandercock

Hidden - Lead - 02/Apr/11

jonnie3430 - Solo O/S - 02/Apr/11 with Matt, Carol

Nice wee climb, although route description a little unclear so I took most aesthetically pleasing and sensible route.
Carol Goodall - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11 with Matt Dooner

Andy Moles - Lead O/S - 07/Mar/11 with Tom Eadington

Andes - 2011

lisafer - 2011

arrang - Lead - 2011

Anthony Dixon - Lead - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead - 01/Aug/10

Hidden - 01/Aug/10

ccraigg22 - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/10

pmurdy - 2nd O/S - 28/Jul/10

VS!?
akhutton88 - 2nd - 26/Jul/10

rgd1977 - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/10

Hidden - 03/Jul/10

Adrianw - 2nd - 30/Jun/10 with Neil Cranston

Peter White - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/10 with John Flitcroft

Klingon - Lead - 24/Jun/10 with Steve Kirkup

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/Jun/10

hobblingfool - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10

rnotman67 - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead - 16/Jun/10

steev - Lead O/S - 23/May/10 with Gaz

Fiona Reid - 2nd - 22/May/10 with Mike

Mike_Watson_99 - Lead - 22/May/10 with Fiona

clairepoppett - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with Jim Gaffney

Jim Gaffney - 2nd - 15/May/10 with Claire Poppett

cat22 - Lead O/S - 09/May/10 with Mike

sneaks - Lead rpt - 08/May/10

steep,
daWalt - Lead O/S - 02/May/10 with Lisa

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Apr/10

cherad - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/10 with Kim Martin

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Apr/10

Hidden - 13/Apr/10

stuaart - Lead rpt - 10/Apr/10 with Neil Redgrave

My second ever 4c lead. Overall, I thought it would have been more aptly graded VS 4b. Quite sustained, but I can't pinpoint the 4c-er.
iceicebaby - Lead β - 08/Apr/10 with Sam Wood

Em66 - Lead - 08/Apr/10 with Mat

Snap - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/10 with Matt

jimstanton - Lead - 17/Mar/10 with Leo

seemed more like VS to me
JamieSparkes - 2nd O/S - 03/Mar/10 with Robert Taylor

scott gibson - 2010

Hidden - 2010

ewan i - Lead - 2010

Hidden - Lead - 25/Oct/09

lucasp - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/09 with simon lambert

chrism225 - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/09 with polly, dave

andybroadway - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Martin Fitzsimons

Partner belayed from the ledge with the heather as the higher section looked very intimidating.
LittleLuka - 2nd dnf - 25/Sep/09 with Pauline

Hidden - Lead dnf - 25/Sep/09

robertmichaeladams - 2nd - 19/Sep/09 with Mel

first part of the climb is easy but the second part definately felt like a VS
MelH - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/09

tomdude - 2nd rpt - 19/Sep/09 with andy ventham

coral21 - 2nd - 31/Aug/09 with Steve, Tom

stimpey - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/09 with Tom, Cas

Timpy1584 - 2nd - 31/Aug/09 with Caz, Steve

Good value for HS. Steep and itimidating, the holds are all there but didn't find the protection great on the (easier) first section.
barney800 - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/09 with Katherine Shaw

davie.p. - 2nd - 21/Aug/09 with AlanR

alanramsay - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/09 with davie.p.

Mrs Weasel - 2nd - 08/Aug/09 with JiveWeasel

JiveWeasel - Lead - 08/Aug/09 with Mrs Weasel

stukent - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/09 with Steven Walker

Hay - Lead rpt - Aug/09 with Lewis

stoat - Lead - 19/Jul/09 with markfairbank

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Jun/09

Ben1983 - Solo O/S - 24/May/09

French Erick - Solo O/S - 09/May/09 with Dave Kerr

stuaart - 2nd O/S - 09/May/09 with Thomas Smith

dave o - Lead O/S - 01/May/09 with Julia H

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/May/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Mar/09

ShelleyRhodes - 2nd - 17/Mar/09 with Chris Morrish

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 24/Jan/09

burto - Lead rpt - 21/Jan/09 with ducky

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jan/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2009

jonny taylor - 2nd - 30/Nov/08 with Jamie

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Jul/08

great climb. good moves on brilliant protection.
duzinga - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/08 with Chuck and Ewan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/08

Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 24/May/08 with Claire and Christian Svenson

Mike took the direct start up the overhang and then the direct finish not up the groove - wondered why it felt bloody hard for HS - i came back down and went the more amicable way.
BelleVedere - 2nd - 20/Apr/08 with Mike Lauder

Chris the Tall - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/08 with Mike P, Simon J

snowy owl - Lead - 29/Mar/08 with Michael Orr

Hidden - Solo O/S - 01/Mar/08

mungojerry82 - 2nd O/S - 10/Feb/08 with Jd

jonny taylor - Lead O/S - 20/Jan/08 with Chris S

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Jan/08

Fiona Reid - 2nd - 20/Oct/07 with Mike

Mike_Watson_99 - Lead - 20/Oct/07 with Fiona

Fiona Reid - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/07 with Mike

Mike_Watson_99 - 2nd - 22/Sep/07 with Fiona

Rog Wilko - Lead - 15/Sep/07 with Debbie Wilkinson

victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/07 with crossdressingrodney

crossdressingrodney - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/07 with victim of mathematics

Poor gear till the very last move
Colin Matheson - Lead - 15/Jul/07 with Charlie Fisher

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jul/07

Hidden - Solo O/S - 09/Jul/07

easers - Jul/07

andyandy - Lead - 28/May/07 with Phil

gaz.marshall - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/07 with Jones

JLS - 2nd rpt - 08/Apr/07 with Gavin R.

Hidden - 01/Apr/07

whispering nic - Solo - 2007

Definite VS. Didn't like the traverse left along the heather ledge. Could barely hold on by the end!!
beegsyboy - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/06 with Sandy

Sankey - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/06 with Luke

Piglet - Solo O/S - Aug/06

Hidden - AltLd - 27/Aug/05

Gustav - Lead O/S - 2005 with Tom

barney_edin - 22/Nov/04

Hidden - 2nd - Oct/04

BelleVedere - 2nd - 27/Jun/04

Stuart Macfarlane - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/04 with Helen

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/03

colin milton - Lead - 25/Aug/03 with simon murphy

Hidden - Lead - 19/Apr/03

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Apr/02

Climbster - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/01

gypsy3006 - Lead - 2000

Trobbo - Solo - 17/Mar/98

Richard Alderton - 2nd - 18/Feb/98 with Smith

John Pickles - Lead O/S - 1998

stuart100 - Lead O/S - Jul/96 with Claire Graham

greenroom - Lead O/S - 1996

Tom V - Jun/95

Dave Musgrove - Solo - 19/Mar/93 with David

Marti999 - Lead - 1992

Hidden - Lead - Nov/91

malc - Lead - 07/Oct/90

Roget - 2nd O/S - Aug/89 with chris jones, jim

Hidden - 1989

Hidden - 1980

Hidden - 1980

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - 1974 with Will Walker

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Voting
Total votes cast 158
hard VS0 of 56
VS0 of 56
easy VS32 of 56
hard HS16 of 56
HS8 of 56
easy HS0 of 56
hard S0 of 56
S0 of 56
easy S0 of 56
hard 5a0 of 52
5a0 of 52
easy 5a0 of 52
hard 4c3 of 52
4c39 of 52
easy 4c5 of 52
hard 4b5 of 52
4b0 of 52
easy 4b0 of 52
3 Stars4 of 50
2 Stars39 of 50
1 Star4 of 50
0 Stars2 of 50
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Style of ascent

Soloed11 of 250 (4.4%)
Lead141 of 250 (56.4%)
Followed81 of 250 (32.4%)
Alt Leads1 of 250 (0.4%)
Unknown16 of 250 (6.4%)

'Climbed'103 of 250 (41.2%)
clean O/S123 of 250 (49.2%)
clean β4 of 250 (1.6%)
clean rpt16 of 250 (6.4%)
dogged1 of 250 (0.4%)
dnf3 of 250 (1.2%)